2005 VV Ultimate Badass - Nomination Phase

noel · Post by **noel** » April 28, 2005, 2:27 pm

In an effort to keep the geek level here as high as possible, we are starting nominations for a Bracketed, ULTIMATE BADASS thread.

As such, you will need to nominate your favorite ULTIMATE BADASSES from any genre. Then we will have some form of voting with the top 64 ULTIMATE BADASSES either by poll or write-in, to narrow down the field, so that we at Veeshanvault can determine the 2005 VEESHANVAULT ULTIMATE BADASS. The voting will be contextual. When you cast your vote, you will have to consider the context each particular badass occurs in, and take that in consideration.

(Yes this is by far one of the geekiest things I have ever been involved in, and I'm very embarassed that this was my idea, and I'm going to be chairing it. Also, if this goes well, we might have a coolest sci-fi/comic vehicle poll where you'll be able to decide if the Slave 1 > KITT < The Millineum Falcon. ><)

Since we've been discussing this in IRC, we have the following pre-nominees:

Wolverine - Xmen
Magneto - Xmen
Apocalypse -Xmen
Dark Phoenix - Xmen
Batman - DC comics
Boba/Jango Fett - Star Wars
Darth Vader - Star Wars
Jack Bauer - 24
John Clark - Clancy Novels
Snake Eyes - GI Joe
Jules - Pulp Fiction
John McClane - Die Hard movies
Al 'Fucking' Swearengen - Deadwood
Worf - Star Trek The Next Generation
Gandalf (The White) - LotR
Darth Maul - Star Wars
General Grievous - Star Wars
Kratos - Main character in God of War
Master Chief - HALO
Aragorn - LotR
Sauron - LotR
Joker - Batman
Bane - Batman
Doomsday - Superman
Carnage - Spiderman?
Venom - Spiderman
Soundwave - Transformers (really? was he really badass?)
Megatron - Transformers
Optimus Prime - Transformers (highly questionable)
Starscream - Transformers
Voltron Lion Force - Voltron (you're kidding me)
Jesus - The Bible etc.
Duke Leto II - Dune
Sandman - DC Comics or Spiderman/Avengers, Diae?
Q - Star Trek
Wanda and Cosmo - ???
Superman - Superman
Bruce Lee
The Incredible Hulk - Marvel Comics
Eric Cartman - South Park
The Midnighter - Stormwatch and The Authority fame
John Constantine - Hellblazer (no, *NOT* the Keanu version)
Odysseus - The Odyssey
Commander Sam Vimes - Discworld
Spike - Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Jaime "The Kingslayer "Lannister - A Song of Ice and Fire
Sandor "The Hound" Clegane - A Song of Ice and Fire
Gregor "The Mountain That Rides" Clegane - A Song of Ice and Fire
Tommy Monaghan aka HITMAN - DC Comics
Marv - Sin City
Mickey O'Neil - Snatch
'Bullet Tooth' Tony - Snatch
The Silver Surfer - Marvel
Galactus - Marvel
Cable - Xmen
Elric of Melnibone - Need context please Adelrune
Walker, Texas Ranger - CBS! (*snicker*)
Lobo - DC Comics
Ryu - Fist of Northstar
Ender - Ender's Game
Raistlin - Dragonlance Chronicles
Ender's Shadow - Ender's Game
Edmund Dantes - The Count of Monte Cristo
Tyler Durden - Fight Club
Pai Mei - Kill Bill 2
Remo Williams - From the Books not the movie (there were books?

)
Buford Pusser - Walking Tall
Theoden - Lord of the Rings
Scarface - Scarface
Magus - Chrono Trigger
King of Zamunda
Sephiroth - FFVII
SGT. Kabukiman, NYPD - (I think you're serious, Canno...)
Fei Fong Wong - Xenogears
Belgarion - (Context please)
Itachi - Naruto
Shishio - Ruroni Kenshin
Hijime Saito - Ruroni Kenshin
Hal Jordan - Green Lantern
Luciola - Last Exile
Spike Spiegel - Cowboy Bebop
Saya - Blood the Last Vampire
Wong Fei Hung - (context please)
Shaun - Shaun of the Dead
Dirty Harry - Clint Eastwood
Hudson - Bill Paxton from Aliens
Tommy Lee Jones - Under Seige

A hearty, 'Have a take and do not suck' to people nominating:
Megaman, Sonic the Hedgehog, Iron Chef Morimoto (great show tho), Ninja Turtles, Mr. T, McGuyver, anything suggested by that fag from Luclin, Billy Blanks, The Undertaker and I'm sure more to be added later.
Edit: PS - I'm taking serious nominees only. Leave your Felix the Cats and 'The A-team' off the thread. This thread is for geeks, not losers.

Edit2: Nominations will be over by Tuesday of next week. At that point, whoever wants to will select a list of either 32 or 64 characters. Those characters getting the most votes will be bracketed, and we'll start voting after that. At any point, you can explain why someone should or shouldn't win or lose, or be on the list at all, so you can sway your fellow geeks to your line of thinking. I'll update the master list at the end of each day, but voting will likely go quick.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » April 28, 2005, 2:29 pm

there must be brackets!

edit...doesn't really matter because Wolverine (WITH his Adamantium skeleton) > all

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » April 28, 2005, 2:29 pm

Apocalypse shouldn't really be counted since he's a demigod or at least a quasi-divine entitiy.

noel · Post by **noel** » April 28, 2005, 2:30 pm

Information included in the leading post.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » April 28, 2005, 2:31 pm

I nominate Worf (ST:TNG)

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » April 28, 2005, 2:32 pm

Dude no one can beat Vader... well except Luke I guess.

We might should add in Gandalf though, he can kick some serious ass when necessary. I think even Vader would have problems with a Balrog.

Marb

Vannoth · Post by **Vannoth** » April 28, 2005, 2:36 pm

General Grevious,
Darth Maul, Saiphos (had to),
The dude from God Of War,
Sonic the Hedgehog,
Master Chief,
MegaMan,
CArdboard Tube Samurai,
Sauron,
Strider,
Joker,
Bane,
Carnage,
Venom,
Soundwave,
Megatron,
Optimus Douchebag,
Starscream
Voltron (Lions only plz)

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » April 28, 2005, 2:41 pm

The Lord, Jesus H. Christ

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » April 28, 2005, 2:41 pm

Checkered Demon from Zap! Comics. Hands down the best in the boozing, smoking, whoring and fighting catagories.

Keep the rest of your dress wearing space dorks and sissy mutants.

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » April 28, 2005, 2:41 pm

God Emperor of Dune, Duke Leto II
Sandman
Q - From STNG
Wanda and Cosmo

masteen · Post by **masteen** » April 28, 2005, 2:43 pm

Iron Chef Morimoto should be on that list too. He's wicked good with the knives.

Neost · Post by **Neost** » April 28, 2005, 2:49 pm

Superman

Vannoth · Post by **Vannoth** » April 28, 2005, 2:53 pm

Voronwë wrote:The Lord, Jesus H. Christ

I know/hope you're joking. Jesus was *not* a badass. Great dude, sure, but if he was a badass he wouldn't be letting mere humans string his ass up and stab him with spears after they nail his shit to a cross.

If Jesus was a badass he woulda flexed and smashed that cross down and beat some fucking ass with the splinters *while* that shit was still nailed to his hands.

WHO WANTS A PIECE NOW ROMAN MOTHERFUCKERS. But no...he just laid there and died like a good little monkey.

If you really have to go biblical go with Archangel Azrael/Gabriel. He is the motherfucker with the sword.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » April 28, 2005, 2:54 pm

Bruce Lee

nobody · Post by **nobody** » April 28, 2005, 2:56 pm

the Incredible HULK!!!! the strongest super hero ever!

nobody · Post by **nobody** » April 28, 2005, 2:57 pm

oh, and the ninja turtles, from the comis books, not the gay cartoon

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » April 28, 2005, 2:59 pm

Mr. T

or

BA Baracus

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 28, 2005, 3:04 pm

McGuyver

NUFF SAID BITCHES

masteen · Post by **masteen** » April 28, 2005, 3:05 pm

Vannoth wrote:
Voronwë wrote:The Lord, Jesus H. Christ
I know/hope you're joking. Jesus was *not* a badass. Great dude, sure, but if he was a badass he wouldn't be letting mere humans string his ass up and stab him with spears after they nail his shit to a cross.

If Jesus was a badass he woulda flexed and smashed that cross down and beat some fucking ass with the splinters *while* that shit was still nailed to his hands.

WHO WANTS A PIECE NOW ROMAN MOTHERFUCKERS. But no...he just laid there and died like a good little monkey.

If you really have to go biblical go with Archangel Azrael/Gabriel. He is the motherfucker with the sword.

Romans nailed people to crosses through their wrists, not their hands.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » April 28, 2005, 3:07 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:McGuyver

NUFF SAID BITCHES

shit i was seconds from posting that ><

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » April 28, 2005, 3:10 pm

Eric Cartman (not a joke.)
The Midnighter (of Stormwatch and The Authority fame)
John Constantine, Hellblazer (no, *NOT* the Keanu version)
Odysseus
Commander Sam Vimes (Discworld - no, trust me. This guy is so badass, the assassins guild refuse to accept a contract on him)
Spike (B:TVS)
Jaime "The Kingslayer "Lannister, Sandor "The Hound" Clegane and Gregor "The Mountain That Rides" Clegane (A Song of Ice and Fire).

Edit:
Tommy Monaghan aka HITMAN (DC Comics)

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » April 28, 2005, 3:13 pm

Marv from Sin City

masteen · Post by **masteen** » April 28, 2005, 3:13 pm

The Kingslayer gets DQ'd because he fucks his sister.

Neost · Post by **Neost** » April 28, 2005, 3:16 pm

and he only has one hand now.

noel · Post by **noel** » April 28, 2005, 3:26 pm

Some of you are fucking high. How can someone be a badass without killing anyone or at least having someone killed? I'm going to use a few people as examples here to illustrate the point, but I'm picking on your nomination, not you as an individual...

BA Baracus? When's the last time a bullet hit ANYONE on the A-team? The only thing badass about BA was the fact that he was angry through every single episode. Sorry, no.

McGyver? Sorry, he's too fucking nice to be a badass.

How about: Mickey O'Neil.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » April 28, 2005, 3:29 pm

Neost wrote:and he only has one hand now.

DAMN YOU I'M STILL READING THE 3RD BOOK! asdjahskfahfjkasgfafasdjsfdgdhdgjdfjhkgfkgfkgf

Neost · Post by **Neost** » April 28, 2005, 3:41 pm

Neost wrote:
and he only has one hand now.

DAMN YOU I'M STILL READING THE 3RD BOOK! asdjahskfahfjkasgfafasdjsfdgdhdgjdfjhkgfkgfkgf

read faster!

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » April 28, 2005, 3:48 pm

Several notable nominations:

The Silver Surfer (wielder of the Power Cosmic)
Galactus ( He eats worlds for snacks. Now thats a bad ass)
Cable (Most powerful mutant in the Marvel Universe)

You can't forget:

Elric (A sword that steals souls is badass incarnate)

Fash · Post by **Fash** » April 28, 2005, 3:51 pm

I nominate Walker, Texas Ranger

ULTIMATE BADASS

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » April 28, 2005, 3:54 pm

OMG Fash really is a 73 yr old woman!!

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » April 28, 2005, 4:01 pm

Lobo
Q
Ryu (fist of north star)

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » April 28, 2005, 4:12 pm

Q?? He went crying to Picard the second he lost his omnipitence.

How's that for geekdom.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 28, 2005, 4:20 pm

Brains over brawn! I nominate Ender from Ender's Game.

Ransure · Post by **Ransure** » April 28, 2005, 4:28 pm

Oh, then I nominate .... damn, whats his name... Enders Shadow... when he took over the worlds military, he was badass... ender just beat some aliens....then went on a million year journey

Arsecn · Post by **Arsecn** » April 28, 2005, 4:34 pm

The Incredible Hulk - Marvel Comics

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » April 28, 2005, 4:35 pm

Morgrym wrote:Lobo
Q
Ryu (fist of north star)

Yeah I second the nomintation for Lobo and Q.

If I had a pic of Lobo walking away on his arms with his legs around his neck asking if anyone had a fraggin stapler I would post it at this point.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » April 28, 2005, 4:41 pm

Ransure wrote:Oh, then I nominate .... damn, whats his name... Enders Shadow... when he took over the worlds military, he was badass... ender just beat some aliens....then went on a million year journey

That would be Bean.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » April 28, 2005, 4:43 pm

oh fuck, how could i forget! Tyler Durden!

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » April 28, 2005, 4:44 pm

Voltron defended the entire fucking Universe, he wins imo.

Dexail · Post by **Dexail** » April 28, 2005, 4:44 pm

Pai Mei (Kill Bill 2)
Remo Williams (from the books, not the movie)
Buford Pusser (Walking Tall)
Juggernaut

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » April 28, 2005, 4:48 pm

nobody wrote:oh, and the ninja turtles, from the comis books, not the gay cartoon

you do know the new cartoon is following the storyline of the comics right?

my votes are for Legolas ( LoTR )

Clark Kent ( Tom Welling Style! )

Alucard ( Hellsing )

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » April 28, 2005, 4:59 pm

ok, now all of us who posted on this thread need to jump out of the nearest tall building.

its the only hope for humanity!!

miir · Post by **miir** » April 28, 2005, 5:02 pm

noel wrote:Some of you are fucking high. How can someone be a badass without killing anyone or at least having someone killed? I'm going to use a few people as examples here to illustrate the point, but I'm picking on your nomination, not you as an individual...

BA Baracus? When's the last time a bullet hit ANYONE on the A-team? The only thing badass about BA was the fact that he was angry through every single episode. Sorry, no.

McGyver? Sorry, he's too fucking nice to be a badass.

How about: Mickey O'Neil.

How about Robert Blake...

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » April 28, 2005, 5:08 pm

Kargyle wrote: That would be Bean.

Doesn't seem like such a badass to me...

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » April 28, 2005, 5:19 pm

You're on crack. Mr Bean is totally hard core gangsta style and shit.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » April 28, 2005, 5:37 pm

hmm, i would have to say magnito and king theodin...the ultimate badass of LOTR...imagine a modern day 50-60 year old politican charging 100 feet in front of the rest of his army with his sword out into an angry mob of orcs

and although im not good with names...the guy from sin city who was electrocuted for trying to avenge the hookers death

noel · Post by **noel** » April 28, 2005, 5:55 pm

Xzion wrote:hmm, i would have to say magnito and king theodin...the ultimate badass of LOTR...imagine a modern day 50-60 year old politican charging 100 feet in front of the rest of his army with his sword out into an angry mob of orcs

and although im not good with names...the guy from sin city who was electrocuted for trying to avenge the hookers death

Who the fuck are magnito and theodin?

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » April 28, 2005, 5:57 pm

Q didn't really do anything badass, he just harassed the Enterprise on more than one occasion. I would say Worf is the badass.

Vannoth · Post by **Vannoth** » April 28, 2005, 6:03 pm

noel wrote:
Xzion wrote:hmm, i would have to say magnito and king theodin...the ultimate badass of LOTR...imagine a modern day 50-60 year old politican charging 100 feet in front of the rest of his army with his sword out into an angry mob of orcs

and although im not good with names...the guy from sin city who was electrocuted for trying to avenge the hookers death
Who the fuck are magnito and theodin?

King Theodin was the king of Rohan. Mildly badass.

Magneto...Xmen? Cmon.

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » April 28, 2005, 6:06 pm

Vannoth wrote:
noel wrote:
Xzion wrote:hmm, i would have to say magnito and king theodin...the ultimate badass of LOTR...imagine a modern day 50-60 year old politican charging 100 feet in front of the rest of his army with his sword out into an angry mob of orcs

and although im not good with names...the guy from sin city who was electrocuted for trying to avenge the hookers death
Who the fuck are magnito and theodin?
King Theodin was the king of Rohan. Mildly badass.

Magneto...Xmen? Cmon.

I think his point was the unsuccessful attempt at spelling made the post almost unreadable.