Sex Offender Kills Self

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly ... 36,00.html

Sex Offender Kills Self Over Neighborhood Signs

Friday, April 22, 2005



OCALA, Fla. — A convicted sex offender apparently committed suicide in despair over signs posted in his neighborhood calling him a child rapist.

Clovis Claxton (search), 38, was found dead by his father with one of the signs beside his body. It was less than a day after his release from a psychiatric hospital.

His mother blames Marion County (search) Commissioner Randy Harris (search) for her son's death. Harris proposed putting up flyers in the neighborhoods of sex offenders to alert neighbors.

Sheriff Ed Dean objected. He says he understands the concern of parents but doesn't want to see hysteria.

Claxton's death follows the high-profile arrests of sex offenders in the separate killings of two Florida girls less than seven weeks apart. State lawmakers have responded by passing a bill to require lifetime supervision of some child sex offenders.

/CHEER !!!!!!!!

I hope we see a string of copy-cat suicides by sex offenders

[Voronwë]

1 down

[Fairweather Pure]

If a person cannot be free of persecution once they've served the time/paid the punishment for thier crime, then something is wrong with the system. Think along the lines of A Clockwork Orange.

I never cheer for the suicide of someone who was obviously a very disturbed person.

[Voronwë]

i think one of the points of "A Clockwork Orange" is that the public does not want prison to be rehabiliatative. They want retribution. that is one of my amateur takes anyway. but you cite it in a way that is very compelling.

the thing with sex offenders though is that there is reason to believe that those persons can pose a very real threat to the communities they live in. THe recent, highly-publicized cases in Florida are perhaps extreme examples of that, but nonetheless, if a person like that moved into my neighborhood, i would be happy to harrass them into moving elsewhere.

my responsibility for the safety of my children supercedes my responsibility to my fellow man to treat them justly.

i do think sex offenders who commit crimes against children are a special case. i think in general, the penalties against these people are completely insufficient, but that is another matter.

[cid]

my responsibility for the safety of my children supercedes my responsibility to my fellow man to treat them justly.

Best paragrah in the history of VV!!

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

my responsibility for the safety of my children supercedes my responsibility to my fellow man to treat them justly.

Best paragrah in the history of VV!!

One of the best foshizzle.

[Homercles]

Why dont we just go with "The Scarlet Letter" method?

Have this guy walk around with "CR" (Child Rapist) stitched on every piece of clothing and tattood on his body.

Shame and Embarrassment should be used more liberally within our penal/justice system


We need to label people!

[Lohrno]

What if he didn't do it?

I'm not looking to get into the facts of the actual case, but even hypothetically, what if he didn't do it? Would this be cause to cheer?

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Wouldn't it be easier to castrate them and then stitch their testicles to their forehead?

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

What if he didn't do it?

the hell?


Why would someone plead insanity to a charge if they did not do it?

[Winnow]

Eventually my suggestion of taking away sex offender's sex drive and ability to reproduce will garner more support. It's the only way to be sure and would be highly effective in stopping repeat sex crimes.

Give them the option of life in prison, death, or an operation.

[Lohrno]

the hell?


Why would someone plead insanity to a charge if they did not do it?

Yeah, I edited...hypothetically what if this was an innocent man..?

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

the hell?


Why would someone plead insanity to a charge if they did not do it?

Yeah, I edited...hypothetically what if this was an innocent man..?

Hypothetically if he didn't do it, he would not have been convicted of anything. With DNA matching, straight out child molestation cases are getting much easier to be able to prove....especially since there is no consent in child molestation.

[Adex_Xeda]

I thought rape was more about power and control than about sex.

Castrating someone might not change the base motivation.

[Fairweather Pure]

I took a peak at the registered sex offenders in my area ( http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/cac/states.htm ), and the rank/severity of the listings is so vague, I had to Google wtf half of them meant. I understand the need to track these types of predators, but I don't think someone that felt up a 17 yr old when they were 18 is really worth ruining their life over.

Take the above article. A convicted sex offender is mentioned, but nothing mentioned about a minor being involved. People are so protective of children (rightfully so) that they are overly zealous at times and that gets into some pretty gray areas.

A better solution needs to be implemented for child sex offenders. I think extraordinarily long prison terms should be in order or perhaps chemical treatment. If you think this person is going to be released and go rape some kids, don't let them out of prison.

As far as A Clockwork Orange, my take has always been the irony of taking a criminal, rehabilitating him, then setting him loose upon an angry and vengeful society. That's pretty much what happened to the above man at a casual glance at the details and what drew my comparison.

On another off topic movie reference, has anyone seen Ghost In the Shell 2: Innocence? I thought that film dealt with child molesters on a very disturbing lvl. Basically, a company manufactured robots in the image of children in hopes these types of people would take their sickness out on the robots instead of actual kids. It backfired when the child robots gained some sort of semi-consciousness and killed their abusers.

[cid]

what if

What if a martian came down from outer space and jacked off in your face.

My favorite quote from my drill instructor!

[Lohrno]

Hypothetically if he didn't do it, he would not have been convicted of anything.

This is true now...but I don't think it guarantees 100% success.

In this case he probably did it.

Wouldn't it suck though if you were in that 1% that had their testicle stapled to their head and everyone was calling you a pedo?

[Lohrno]

what if

What if a martian came down from outer space and jacked off in your face.

My favorite quote from my drill instructor!

I would take a picture and bring the erm product to a local science lab! Proof of extraterrestrial life!

...

Then I would go throw up.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Hypothetically if he didn't do it, he would not have been convicted of anything.

This is true now...but I don't think it guarantees 100% success.

In this case he probably did it.

Wouldn't it suck though if you were in that 1% that had their testicle stapled to their head and everyone was calling you a pedo?

OMFG

Here we go again with your inaction because of imperfection bullshit. Dude. Grow the fuck up already.

[Lohrno]

Here we go again with your inaction because of imperfection bullshit. Dude. Grow the fuck up already.

And here we go again with your failure to even consider what I said...

[cid]

Here we go again with your inaction because of imperfection bullshit. Dude. Grow the fuck up already.

And here we go again with your failure to even consider what I said...

Kinda like considering to eat a pile of dog shit.

[Sionistic]

castration isnt good enough. These sick fucks will find someway of being with kids, you could chop their nuts and dick off, they will just use another part of their body.

[Winnow]

I thought rape was more about power and control than about sex.

Castrating someone might not change the base motivation.

Pretty sure the power and control/dominance is tied to sexual drive when it comes to sex crimes. Removing/regulating testosterone levels would greatly reduce that.

Thanks for the comment Adex. Here you go:

Testicular and prostate self-exams

[Lohrno]

I would have no problem executing the truly sick fucks (IE not the sex offenders who are like 18 year olds having sex with 17 year olds or who got locked outside nekkid and brought in on lewd behavior)...But what I don't get is why you are all so happy about all of this that's all...

[Voronwë]

implant an electroded such that anytime the circuits that result in vasoconstriction in erectile tissue activate, it fires stimulates a massive incapacitating pain response in spinal neurons.

[Homercles]

implant an electroded such that anytime the circuits that result in vasoconstriction in erectile tissue activate, it fires stimulates a massive incapacitating pain response in spinal neurons.

WHAT IF a psycho deviant derived his sexual pleasure from pain? Then youd just be giving him extra incentive to commit crimes

[Lohrno]

It would be nice to have technology to scan people's brains...Not randomly of course, but when they get charged with crimes like these...

[Voronwë]

implant an electroded such that anytime the circuits that result in vasoconstriction in erectile tissue activate, it fires stimulates a massive incapacitating pain response in spinal neurons.

WHAT IF a psycho deviant derived his sexual pleasure from pain? Then youd just be giving him extra incentive to commit crimes

no problem

for that guy you just wire it to a different neural circuit. make him throw up on himself. or defacate on himself.

[cid]

Why scan them when you can put a bullet in them!

[Lohrno]

Why scan them when you can put a bullet in them!

Because if it turns out they didn't do that, then you don't have to...And if it turns out they did, you can do that...

May also help when they don't have enough other evidence to convict someone and otherwise would be letting a sicko go free...

[Niffoni]

Were the people dicks who just wanted to jump on a bandwagon, and probably knew nothing about the person's case? Almost certainly. People are pathetic fucking sheep.

Having said that... Does any one REALLY think we lost the cancer cure with this one? Seriously. Bigger travesties than this one happen every day.

[Sirensa]

Any time a child molester kills themselves is a good day in my world.

[Aabidano]

Removing/regulating testosterone levels would greatly reduce that.

No time to dig up a reference, but it's been tried repeatedly and failed. These crimes are usually driven by mental illness unrelated to testosterone\sex drive, etc.. And have the largest repeat offender rate iirc.

I honestly don't care why people do these things, even if they don't kill the victim they've just impacted the rest of their life. Results on rehabilitation or treament have almost universally been ineffective on these people as well. Kill them slowly and horribly, if you can positively establish guilt, conffesions don't count.

Want to fire up the most mild mannered person in the world? Threaten their kids, you'll see Birkenstok wearing tree huggers howling for blood.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

implant an electroded such that anytime the circuits that result in vasoconstriction in erectile tissue activate, it fires stimulates a massive incapacitating pain response in spinal neurons.

WHAT IF a psycho deviant derived his sexual pleasure from pain? Then youd just be giving him extra incentive to commit crimes

ROFL

[Dexail]

ok, this post is in poor taste... I apologize preemptively

[Fairweather Pure]

TShirt Hell has another that says "I swear, I thought she was 3".

So sick, ya gotta laugh!

[Dregor Thule]

[Sionistic]

TShirt Hell has another that says "I swear, I thought she was 3".

So sick, ya gotta laugh!

Its "I swear, I didnt know she was 3"

[noel]

I'm willing to have a few hundred innocent people die if we get to kill a few thousand guilty ones where child molestation is concerned. Put a bullet in all of them. If we get a few innocents, too fucking bad. There are too many people on the planet anyway.

[Lohrno]

I'm willing to have a few hundred innocent people die if we get to kill a few thousand guilty ones where child molestation is concerned. Put a bullet in all of them. If we get a few innocents, too fucking bad. There are too many people on the planet anyway.

I wouldn't be happy with those odds...

[Adex_Xeda]

I predict a Nazi reference in the next 15 posts.

[Lohrno]

I predict a Nazi reference in the next 15 posts.

You just made one!

[Winnow]

You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.
-Peter Gibbons

[Nick]

lol?

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

I'm willing to have a few hundred innocent people die if we get to kill a few thousand guilty ones where child molestation is concerned. Put a bullet in all of them. If we get a few innocents, too fucking bad. There are too many people on the planet anyway.

Unless one of those innocents was, oh, I dunno...you? or me? or your friend, your dad, your cousin, your lover?

For the retarded: No, I'm not saying that child molestation (and any sex crime, really) is anything less than a completely and utterly reprehensible act that should be punished harshly. I just don't think using scattershot methods is a wise choice.

[kyoukan]

hell just kill everyone on the plant, that way all the child molesters will be dead am i rite?

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I'm willing to have a few hundred innocent people die if we get to kill a few thousand guilty ones where child molestation is concerned. Put a bullet in all of them. If we get a few innocents, too fucking bad. There are too many people on the planet anyway.

Unless one of those innocents was, oh, I dunno...you? or me? or your friend, your dad, your cousin, your lover?

For the retarded: No, I'm not saying that child molestation (and any sex crime, really) is anything less than a completely and utterly reprehensible act that should be punished harshly. I just don't think using scattershot methods is a wise choice.

Scattershot.

ROFL

LMAO

Oh man, the way your kind redefines everything to make it look bad is just too fucking funny. What the fuck is scattershot? less than 1% of innocents getting found guilty is scattershot? ROFL

[Boogahz]

Well, if you just fire away randomly, yes it is.

[Dregor Thule]

Unless one of those innocents was, oh, I dunno...you? or me? or your friend, your dad, your cousin, your lover?

All the same person! Ahahah, oh, no, I kid. Sorry.

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

I'm willing to have a few hundred innocent people die if we get to kill a few thousand guilty ones where child molestation is concerned. Put a bullet in all of them. If we get a few innocents, too fucking bad. There are too many people on the planet anyway.

Unless one of those innocents was, oh, I dunno...you? or me? or your friend, your dad, your cousin, your lover?

For the retarded: No, I'm not saying that child molestation (and any sex crime, really) is anything less than a completely and utterly reprehensible act that should be punished harshly. I just don't think using scattershot methods is a wise choice.

Scattershot.

Oh man, the way your kind redefines everything to make it look bad is just too fucking funny. What the fuck is scattershot? less than 1% of innocents getting found guilty is scattershot?

I took the liberty of editing out the riotous laughter, and the emphasis is mine. Enlighten me, what is 'my kind'?

Less than one percent? I commented on Noel's idea that a couple of hundred innocent people dying was fine as long as a couple of thousand child molesters got theirs.

So let's do the math.
Let's define 'a few' as 'five'. That's 5000 child molesters. That's 500 innocents. That's a 9% failure rate. Out of 100 convicted, and in this - theoretical - discussion, killed, 9 would be innocent. A 91% hit rate is pretty good in darts. It's nowhere near close enough where any form of capital punishment is involved.

I never commented on the story you linked, I never posed the assumption that the man in it was innocent, that was something you dreamt up. Hell, I even posted a caveat in an attempt to hammer it through skulls as thick as yours what I was trying to say.