mobo and case

Trias · Post by **Trias** » February 8, 2005, 5:54 pm

just wondering if anyone has any experience with either of these two items; as i'm considering purchasing them

if anyone has had experience with another product that they feel is superior please feel free to post with some info and a link so that i could check it out

thanks!

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 508&depa=0

Lian Li Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case With Transparent Side Panel, Model "PC-75" -RETAIL

Model# PC-75
Item # N82E16811112508

Specifications:
Case Type: Full Tower
Color: Silver
Material: 1.2~2 mm aluminum with burshed anodized finishing
Drive Bays: 5.25" x 6/0, 3.5" x 3/6 (external/internal)
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: 2 x USB2.0
Cooling System: 2 x 80mm front fans, 2 x 80mm rear fans
Motherboard Compatibility: EXT ATX & Pentium 4 (MAX SIZE: 12" x 13")
Dimensions: 23.5" x 8.3" x 23.2"(HxWxD)
Features: Horizontal converter kit for hidden HDD

and

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 464&depa=0

ASUS "P4C800-E DELUXE" i875P Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL

Model# P4C800-E Deluxe
Item # N82E16813131464

Specifications:
Supported CPU: Intel Pentium 4(HT)/Celeron Processors
Chipset: i875P + ICH5R
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM Dual Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB(PAT)
IDE: 2x ATA 100, 1x ATA 133(Promise 20378) up to 6 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP Pro/8X, 5x PCI, 1x Wi-Fi
Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,1xSPDIF Out,1xLAN,2x1394(Rear 1),8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: AD1985 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Intel 82547EI GbE
Onboard SATA/RAID: ICH5R, 2x SATA, RAID 0/1, Promise 20378, 2x SATA, RAID 0/1/0+1/Multiple RAID
Onboard 1394: VIA 1394 chip
Form Factor: ATX

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » February 8, 2005, 6:02 pm

Grats on buying expensive stuff you don't need every week.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 8, 2005, 7:01 pm

Rellix wrote:Grats on buying expensive stuff you don't need every week.

How do you know he doesn't need it?

Sup Trias!

I have the 'ASUS "P4C800-E DELUXE" i875P Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL' and have had zero problems with it. Well, there is one problem if you use the onboard sound. At least that I have found. Everytime I reboot it seems to forget the microphone. I have to unplug it and plug it back in. Not sure everyone has that problem or not but if you don't use the onboard sound it wont be an issue.

I give it a 9/10!

No idea on the case although looking at the link it's rather ugly (and overpriced) in my opinion. I have a Antec Sonata and also have no problems with that and would buy another but I know others have had issues with heat (although I think that's because they used the thermal grease on a heatsink that altready had the thermal pad thingie. Thinner is better!).

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » February 8, 2005, 7:03 pm

Lian Li cases are way overpriced. It's a CASE dammit. You don't get more megahurtz out of a $200 case. I generally spec In Win cases, excellent quality and sturdiness at a very reasonable price.

As far as mobos go I generally spec Epox or Abit boards, but Asus are wel regarded. Hell even the crappy $30 PCChips board I used to build up my gf's system is a decent mobo.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » February 8, 2005, 7:05 pm

If he can afford it and he like it...then it's no one else's business how expensive his case is...sheesh.

Drolgin Steingrinder · February 8, 2005, 7:21 pm

Lian Li's cases are excellent craftsmanship, you won't cut your fingers to shreds installing and they've got the potential for excellent airflow. They also keep looking good for a long while. If it's a bit over your budget, consider the Antec P160 - it runs about half of the Lian Li (that's without the see through side-door which is an optional extra) but as almost all the same features - easy access panels to drives, mobo, etc etc etc. I have it and I'm very happy with it.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » February 8, 2005, 7:24 pm

Nothing wrong with buying a nice case. For years, I had the same old dull generic type case. When I upgraded last week, I decided to splurge and get a Super Lanboy. I have zero regrets. That case looks badass too.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » February 8, 2005, 8:01 pm

Because Trias has about 10 fully functional computers.

Joking asside, it was more of an inside joke between Trias and myself.

Zeep · Post by **Zeep** » February 8, 2005, 8:37 pm

I have a PC-65 Lian-Li case (with window) and am very pleased with it. The craftsmanship is excellent and I think it looks great. Lian-Li cases are expensive, but if you like the look and have the cash, you won't be disappointed.

Trias · Post by **Trias** » February 9, 2005, 12:43 am

thnx for the input folks

also...i have a p4 3.4ghz laying around that i plan to use...i've used one of these before and the stock fan and heatsink combo that comes with it fit sooo tightly to the mobo that the processor would not function properly, was getting system shut downs about 10 seconds after starting the pc up

i basically had to take out the mechanism that holds the heatskin/fan to the motherboard and file down the connections so that it was held on slightly looser...this put a lot less pressure on the processor i assume, because i had no trouble after that

anyone have any advice on a heatsink/fan combo that fits very well onto this motherboard so that i don't have to go through the same trouble with a stock cooling solution?

i'm considering this so far:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 113&depa=0

ZALMAN CNPS7000B-Cu Copper CPU Cooler for Socket 478/462/754/939/940 CPUs -RETAIL

Model# CNPS7000B-CU
Item # N82E16835118113

Specifications:
Compatibility: Intel socket478 Pentium 4 / Celeron; AMD socket462 CPU, AMD socket754 Athlon 64, socket939/940 Athlon 64(FX), socket940 Athlon 64 FX / Opteron (Single / Dual)
Dimensions: 109 x 109 x 62 mm
Bearing Type: 2 Ball
Nominal Speed(RPM): 1350~ 2600
Heat Sink Material: Pure Copper
Rated Voltage: 12V DC
Connector: 3 Pin
Noise(dBA): 18~ 27.5
Features: Does not generate noise or vibration in Silent Mode, Adjustable fan speed controller(Fan Mate 2)enables control of noise and fan performance

thanks!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 9, 2005, 12:48 am

I use the stock heatsink/fan on mine... Works fine for me.

Trias · Post by **Trias** » February 9, 2005, 12:50 am

cool thanks, must have been a strange fit to the intel board i was using

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 9, 2005, 12:54 am

Trias wrote: anyone have any advice on a heatsink/fan combo that fits very well onto this motherboard so that i don't have to go through the same trouble with a stock cooling solution?

i'm considering this so far:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe ... 113&depa=0

ZALMAN CNPS7000B-Cu Copper CPU Cooler for Socket 478/462/754/939/940 CPUs -RETAIL

I have the combo copper/aluminum version of that Zalman heatsink/fan and it works great. It brought the temp of my CPU down over the standard heatsink fan. I use Abit motherboards so can't tell you if it'd fit the one you're considering.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » February 9, 2005, 1:00 am

Im using that one too but with my Asus K8T800 Pro A8V Deluxe and it fits nice.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » February 9, 2005, 10:29 am

Aslanna wrote:I have a Antec Sonata and also have no problems with that and would buy another

I've got one as well, mine runs cool with all the drive bays full and the fans turned down. Quite happy with it. Nearly silent as well, which is a very nice change.

I bought an Antec Aria case for the wife recently, it's just as quiet and very compact. Not quite as small as a SFF case, but takes standard components. The downside is it only accepts micro-atx motherboards.

Syenye · Post by **Syenye** » February 9, 2005, 12:15 pm

i like my antec sonata but they only come with a 380W power supply, which is easily upgradable but it's something that i would factor in to the decision.

if i had extra money lying around, i'd put my next machine in this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 023&depa=0

the sliding tray for the motherboard is

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Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 9, 2005, 1:03 pm

Syenye wrote:i like my antec sonata but they only come with a 380W power supply, which is easily upgradable but it's something that i would factor in to the decision.

if i had extra money lying around, i'd put my next machine in this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 023&depa=0

the sliding tray for the motherboard is .

If you read the reviews about the True380S 380W power supply included in the Sonata case, you'll see that it actually performs better than most 400W+ Power supplies. It's one of the better ones out there.

Quality is more important than raw power. I don't have time atm to look up the detailed review of the True380S but unless you're going to be buying some 150.00 500W supply, this one should do fine.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » February 9, 2005, 1:40 pm

Syenye wrote:they only come with a 380W power supply

That 380 puts out more wattage on the leads that matter than most 500w power supplies, more stable too.

My Aria case only has a 300w supply in it, full load of "stuff" inside and no issues.

Quality is more important than quantity. There's a huge varience in PS quality and stability.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 9, 2005, 2:10 pm

Trias wrote:cool thanks, must have been a strange fit to the intel board i was using

Well you already buggered it up now:

i basically had to take out the mechanism that holds the heatskin/fan to the motherboard and file down the connections so that it was held on slightly looser...this put a lot less pressure on the processor i assume, because i had no trouble after that

so it may not fit like it's supposed to. May be worthwhile to spend the extra $20 on a new heatsink/fan. $50 for a fan seems rather high to me.

(And yeah, the 380W in the Sonata is more than enough for 9 out of 10 users)

Trias · Post by **Trias** » February 9, 2005, 3:38 pm

Aslanna wrote:
Trias wrote:cool thanks, must have been a strange fit to the intel board i was using
Well you already buggered it up now:

i basically had to take out the mechanism that holds the heatskin/fan to the motherboard and file down the connections so that it was held on slightly looser...this put a lot less pressure on the processor i assume, because i had no trouble after that
so it may not fit like it's supposed to. May be worthwhile to spend the extra $20 on a new heatsink/fan. $50 for a fan seems rather high to me.

that was a totally separate chipset/heatsink and fan, so i have nothing to worry about in that regard hopefully this time...this is just an extra one i've had sitting here for a couple months now...basically, i've just gotten around to starting to build a system around it now finally