Can't he just play basketball and stfu?

noel · Post by **noel** » December 13, 2004, 1:35 pm

Kobe Bryant is a fucking idiot who should focus more on basketball than running his mouth.

In other news, the sun still rises in the east.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » December 13, 2004, 1:48 pm

I'm assuming it has something to do with this?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 13, 2004, 1:57 pm

Karl Malone had all of those hot mormon white women to bang while in Utah and now he has to work harder to score when his wife isn't around.

While Karl shouldn't have said what he did to Kobe's wife, Kobe is overreacting and it's something that should be handled outside of the public spotlight as I'm betting there's more shit that can be dug up on Kobe and he's not exactly a role model when he's raping or just having rough sex with women while married himself. Bad move on Kobe's part.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » December 13, 2004, 2:01 pm

1. Karl Malone was retarded for pulling this "well maybe i will retire but maybe i won't retire and when i come back maybe i'll play for the lakers but maybe i'll play for the spurs but maybe i'll play for the timberwolves but oh dear shaq is in miami everybody just loves me so much" bullshit.

2. Kobe Bryant was right to say that such behavior is disruptive and unfair.

3. Karl Malone was an oversensitive moron to claim that such offensive comments would prevent him from returning to the lakers.

4. Kobe Bryant was a whiny reactionary idiot for going off on this half-cocked wife story which doesn't appear to be even slightly offensive or problematic or relevant to the situation.

Seriously. Kobe "I-like-to-regularly-cheat-on-my-wife-while-having-hot-semi-consensual-asphyxiation-sex" is lecturing Karl Malone for making a passing comment to someone's wife?

Conclusion: See subject line.

noel · Post by **noel** » December 13, 2004, 2:38 pm

I'm disappointed in Malone for his wait-and-see attitude regarding playing this season, and which team he's going to play for. I'm sure he's happy to have an out from the Lakers, and though I think the Lakers are playing better than expected, I don't begrudge Malone wanting to go to the Spurs, the T-Wolves, or the Heat in an effort to win a championship. At his age, and with his experience, if he'd wanted to be part of a rebuilding effort, he could have just stayed in Utah, and lets not kid ourselves, there's not a chance in hell that the Lakers (or the Pistons

) are going back to the Finals this year.

If you look at the Lakers playoff effort last year, I think it's reasonable to say that the Lakers go NOWHERE without Malone. He was basically the only player on the Laker's roster that could defend Duncan or Garnett. They got their money's worth and then some.

Apparently, the story was reported by the New York Post prior to Kobe running his mouth... but for fuck's sake. He needs to realize that he's not winning any public opinion polls (even with a lot of LA), and a stern 'No comment.' would have been the professional and correct way to handle any questions about the incident. It appears he talked to Malone AND his wife in private, and whatever happened should have been left at that. Now we have YET ANOTHER distraction that Bryant has placed himself firmly in the middle of. I wish he'd just play basketball.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketbal ... sports-nba

T.J. SIMERS
The Soap Opera Behind Bryant-Malone Drama
T.J. Simers

December 12, 2004

I'm going to write two words here, and while they might disgust you, I'm going to ask you not to immediately crumple your newspaper and throw it across the room.

OK, here goes: Kobe Bryant.

There's almost nothing you can say these days as it relates to the Lakers without drawing a line in the stands between the Kobe lovers and the Kobe haters, and now here's more fodder to ponder.

Both Bryant and Karl Malone — speaking through his agent, Dwight Manley — confirmed Saturday night that they had a major falling out involving Bryant's wife, Vanessa, two weeks before the Bryant radio interview that had supposedly ticked off Malone so much.

Before Saturday night's game with the Clippers, Bryant listened as I relayed the story that's going around town, and when I finished, he said, that's true.

On Nov. 23, the night the Lakers played the Bucks at Staples Center, Vanessa was talking on the phone to Malone's wife, Kaye. Kaye gave Vanessa her husband's cellphone number, and Vanessa called Malone, who was sitting at courtside, and invited Malone's child to join her.

Malone, wearing cowboy boots and a hat, eventually took the child to Vanessa.

Malone hugged Vanessa, and then Vanessa asked — as Manley recounts this part of the story — "Hey, cowboy, what are you hunting?"

"She said it twice," Manley said, "and Karl answered the second time, 'I'm hunting for little Mexican girls.' "

After the game Vanessa told Bryant that Malone had come on to her, and said several inappropriate things. She also told Bryant that she had called Malone's wife and asked Kaye to get her husband away from her.

Bryant called Malone on his cellphone after the game, and Bryant laid into Malone. Bryant said Malone didn't have much to say in return and didn't deny anything.

What's a husband supposed to do when your wife tells you something like that? Bryant wanted to know as we talked.

Bryant said he was uncomfortable discussing the incident and he would have preferred to keep it quiet, but the New York Post reported this week that Malone was seen giving Vanessa a big hug, and then "somehow Malone managed to cross Vanessa" and got on her "frosty side."

AFTER I talked to Bryant, I relayed the same story to Manley and asked for the opportunity to talk to Malone and hear his version.

"Karl wants me to give you two messages," Manley said after calling Malone. "He never hit on Vanessa, nor would he…. In fact, when he first heard about [the accusation], he said, 'You have to be kidding me.'

"As for the comments he made to her that offended her personally, he told both her and Kobe that night that he apologized."

Manley said that after Malone apologized, "Kobe followed that with a string of threats."

Bryant said he was upset but he said that he made no threats and was only coming to the defense of his wife, and that he told Malone to stay away from his wife.

Bryant said when he did the radio interview with XTRA (690/1150) he never mentioned anything about the simmering feud between the two because he didn't want to take personal shots at Malone.

Manley said Bryant called the Malone home the next day with more threats, and that Malone's wife listened in on a speaker phone.

Bryant said that both he and his wife called the Malones the next day in an attempt to work things out but failed.

The Bryants' second-day phone call and continuing accusations infuriated Malone and that led him to effectively end his relationship with the Lakers. The subsequent radio interview with XTRA allowed the rift between the two to go public without any mention of the soap opera — until now.

KOBE BRYANT.

The other day those two words came up while the daughter and I were speaking at the all-girls Marlborough School, and when Miss Radio Personality heard them, she said, "I hate Kobe Bryant."

Many of the athletes in the room — ranging from seventh to 12th grade — began standing, cheering and applauding, which made it difficult to hear me when I told them Miss Radio Personality had no idea what she was talking about.

It's becoming tougher and tougher to defend Bryant — even in my own home.

I told Bryant right now in the estimation of many folks he's the "rat's behind of the world," although I don't think I used the word "behind," and that he appears to be losing ground in a city he once owned.

"I know," he said. "I've got to get out there with people more. I will. I'm loosening up, and I'll get better. I know what I've got to do."

I know this. He's got a lot to do if he's going to ever change the mind of Miss Radio Personality.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » December 13, 2004, 3:28 pm

I hope Karl Malone screws his wife. That's a lesson he probably deserves.

noel · Post by **noel** » December 13, 2004, 3:34 pm

Honestly, as long as I don't have to read about it, that's fine with me.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 13, 2004, 3:35 pm

no, he is the biggest bitch ever

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » December 13, 2004, 9:13 pm

I don't want Malone to go to my Spurs!

And hey, Kobe's wife is cute

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » December 13, 2004, 9:27 pm

Kobe's wife is legitimately hot.

noel · Post by **noel** » December 13, 2004, 9:41 pm

Yeah she's hot.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » December 13, 2004, 10:20 pm

I went to the game last night. In the third quarter Kobe is walking up the court during a commercial break and has his shorts down and is tying the string on the pair of shorts he wears underneath his uniform. A lady one row ahead yells "Kobe pull your pants up." The guy next to me says "wait a sec he is trying to impress a blonde sitting courtside." I guess you had to be there but it was funny as hell.

I was amazed at the number of people who dislike Kobe. I personally am done with him as a laker, but to hear all the negative comments about his lack of passing, poor shot selection and demanding the ball was surprising.

Jermaine Jones was the star last night, he hustled, shot lights out and got key rebounds. He helped the Lakers turn a 12 point deficit into a 6 or 7 point lead, then Kobe decided he was going to take over in the third and suddenly the Lakers were tied again.

I am waiting to hear the real story on why Kareem Rush was traded too. I am hearing stories that he had the audacity to question Kobe on some things and bam...traded for a second round pick.