fascist douche bag

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » November 11, 2004, 6:57 pm

hell no,
then again i guess he took example from the government which held the strongest "moral values" of anyone...the taliban

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » November 11, 2004, 7:04 pm

why are you such an over-the-top hack

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » November 11, 2004, 7:05 pm

The obvious answer is "fuck no", but I'm tempted to suggest we all vote yes just to see if Xzion's head explodes.

Brotha · Post by **Brotha** » November 11, 2004, 7:11 pm

How exactly do you play a roll?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · November 11, 2004, 7:30 pm

Has there been another attack on his watch? No. Then the answer to the poll is yes. Saying any differently is just plain blind and ignorant. But hey, that's what mostly infests this board.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 11, 2004, 7:32 pm

John Ashcroft made sure marble boobies were not shown, he arrested about 5,000 people with muslim sounding names, got one conviction (which was overturned by the judge).

What a great job, I think my dog could have done just as well as he has done.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » November 11, 2004, 7:34 pm

Thess wrote:John Ashcroft made sure marble boobies were not shown, he arrested about 5,000 people with muslim sounding names, got one conviction (which was overturned by the judge).

What a great job, I think my dog could have done just as well as he has done.

Not sure about that Thess, if its your dog in your sig, he look pretty smart. He probably would have done a better job.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » November 11, 2004, 7:42 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Has there been another attack on his watch? No. Then the answer to the poll is yes. Saying any differently is just plain blind and ignorant. But hey, that's what mostly infests this board.

PATRIOT Act.

-=Lohrno

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 11, 2004, 7:47 pm

John Ashcroft, FUCK YEAH!

John fended off this great nation from the hordes of terrorist invaders who wanted to bring it down. You all owe him your gratitude.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » November 11, 2004, 7:56 pm

Hehe... the 'I hate the Bush administration' polls won't ever stop will they?

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 11, 2004, 8:05 pm

Aruman wrote:Hehe... the 'I hate the Bush administration' polls won't ever stop will they?

They will stop, but will go on for 4 more years!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 11, 2004, 8:13 pm

Aslanna wrote:John Ashcroft, FUCK YEAH!

John fended off this great nation from the hordes of terrorist invaders who wanted to bring it down. You all owe him your gratitude.

That's the spirit!

Seebs · Post by **Seebs** » November 11, 2004, 8:27 pm

That job is is as tankless as the position of Mother In Law.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 11, 2004, 8:38 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Has there been another attack on his watch? No. Then the answer to the poll is yes. Saying any differently is just plain blind and ignorant. But hey, that's what mostly infests this board.

Isn't he the only one to have an attack on his watch in 60 years? Im not sure, just asking.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 11, 2004, 8:59 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Has there been another attack on his watch? No. Then the answer to the poll is yes. Saying any differently is just plain blind and ignorant. But hey, that's what mostly infests this board.

hahaha ok that comment alone explains a lot about you Midnyte. Fuck, I hope your kids get away from you before you ruin their lives as well.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » November 11, 2004, 10:22 pm

Lynks wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Has there been another attack on his watch? No. Then the answer to the poll is yes. Saying any differently is just plain blind and ignorant. But hey, that's what mostly infests this board.
Isn't he the only one to have an attack on his watch in 60 years? Im not sure, just asking.

Don't try to use logic with Mid.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » November 11, 2004, 10:59 pm

Ashcroft was not a good attorney general.
Regardless of political affiliation, the man did a shitty job. Peroid.

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » November 11, 2004, 11:14 pm

When his own State/city votes for a DEAD guy over him and loses to him. You know how much of a shitty person he is.

Cotto · Post by **Cotto** » November 11, 2004, 11:51 pm

Haha some of you actually think he did a good job.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 12, 2004, 12:27 am

Lynks wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Has there been another attack on his watch? No. Then the answer to the poll is yes. Saying any differently is just plain blind and ignorant. But hey, that's what mostly infests this board.
Isn't he the only one to have an attack on his watch in 60 years? Im not sure, just asking.

A major attack, yes. Still the world trade center was attacked in 1992, 42 days after Clinton took office.

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » November 12, 2004, 3:43 am

He can spell "douche bag" but not "role," yet he has a harsh personal criticism for everyone and everything that doesn't support his grand socialist concepts. It's enemies like him that make me glad I'm not on his side!

(please don't bring up the people that agree with me in any rebuttal, nor the lameness of mentioning spelling, thanks!)

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » November 12, 2004, 8:55 am

im actually a moderate libertarian on economics, an isolationist on foreign policy, and very socially liberal if you care to know

and if your still pulling the "spelling and grammar card"

- and of course noone voted for him, but indirectly they did vote for his politics as his politics will hold much influence in the next four years

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » November 12, 2004, 9:09 am

Anyone that is able to walk out of office in the type of situation we're in and say we're free from terrorism and crime needs to be shipped somewhere to experience a slow, painful re-education.

Thinking the bronx.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 12, 2004, 9:16 am

Rekaar, how many languages do you speak/read/write...just curious.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » November 12, 2004, 10:49 am

Seebs wrote:That job is is as tankless as the position of Mother In Law.

I'd also guess that he was doing as he was told. He was an employee, not a policy maker.

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » November 12, 2004, 6:09 pm

Lynks wrote:Rekaar, how many languages do you speak/read/write...just curious.

27

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » November 12, 2004, 6:55 pm

Rekaar. wrote:
Lynks wrote:Rekaar, how many languages do you speak/read/write...just curious.
27

white trash dialects don't count

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » November 12, 2004, 7:45 pm

I am torn.

I want to vote yes for obvious reasons...

Then I keep seeing and hearing him croon "Let The Eagles Soar" over and over in my head....

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 12, 2004, 8:02 pm

Moonwynd wrote: Then I keep seeing and hearing him croon "Let The Eagles Soar" over and over in my head....

I actually kind of like that song...

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 12, 2004, 9:33 pm

"The danger I see here is that intrusive judicial oversight and second-guessing of presidential determinations in these critical areas can put at risk the very security of our nation in a time of war," Ashcroft said in a speech to the Federalist Society, a conservative lawyers group.

"Courts are not equipped to execute the law. They are not accountable to the people," Ashcroft said.

buh bye

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 12, 2004, 11:53 pm

I voted yes out of spite.

Brotha · Post by **Brotha** » November 13, 2004, 2:54 am

LOL

http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001917.html

Specter Backs Ashcroft for Next Supreme Court Opening
(2004-11-10) -- To prove beyond a reasonable doubt that his stand on abortion won't stand in the way of President George Bush's federal court nominees, future senate judiciary committee chairman Arlen Specter today said he views departing Attorney General John Ashcroft as the kind of jurist he hopes the president will nominate.

"I'd like to see a Chief Justice Ashcroft," said Mr. Specter, R/D-PA, "In fact, I challenge the president to nominate Ashcroft so I can finally prove my loyalty to this administration and to this party, once and for all."

Mr. Ashcroft, who is an evangelical Christian, has been a lightning rod for criticism by civil liberties advocates because his Justice Department ordered millions of secret wiretaps and sent all of the nation's Muslims to a detention center at the U.S. Naval Station at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

A spokesman for the Attorney General said, "Sen. Specter's support of Mr. Ashcroft's appointment to the Supreme Court comes as no surprise to the Justice Department. The senator has been talking about it privately with his wife, Joan, in the kitchen, and by email, instant message and phone with his best friend for months."

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » November 13, 2004, 10:19 am

Brotha wrote:LOL

http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001917.html

Specter Backs Ashcroft for Next Supreme Court Opening
(2004-11-10) -- To prove beyond a reasonable doubt that his stand on abortion won't stand in the way of President George Bush's federal court nominees, future senate judiciary committee chairman Arlen Specter today said he views departing Attorney General John Ashcroft as the kind of jurist he hopes the president will nominate.

"I'd like to see a Chief Justice Ashcroft," said Mr. Specter, R/D-PA, "In fact, I challenge the president to nominate Ashcroft so I can finally prove my loyalty to this administration and to this party, once and for all."

Mr. Ashcroft, who is an evangelical Christian, has been a lightning rod for criticism by civil liberties advocates because his Justice Department ordered millions of secret wiretaps and sent all of the nation's Muslims to a detention center at the U.S. Naval Station at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

A spokesman for the Attorney General said, "Sen. Specter's support of Mr. Ashcroft's appointment to the Supreme Court comes as no surprise to the Justice Department. The senator has been talking about it privately with his wife, Joan, in the kitchen, and by email, instant message and phone with his best friend for months."

god help us all, he would be almost as bad as that racist bastard renquist(im surprised the senate wouldnt go out of there way to find a way to get rid of him, any government official that once stood against equality should be automatically fired, regardless of position)...dark times these are

I guess we should be careful what we wish for

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » November 13, 2004, 3:41 pm

that would take a lot of political capital

Spang · Post by **Spang** » November 13, 2004, 3:53 pm

Thess wrote:
Lynks wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Has there been another attack on his watch? No. Then the answer to the poll is yes. Saying any differently is just plain blind and ignorant. But hey, that's what mostly infests this board.
Isn't he the only one to have an attack on his watch in 60 years? Im not sure, just asking.
A major attack, yes. Still the world trade center was attacked in 1992, 42 days after Clinton took office.

we had more attacks with Clinton in office. many more actually. i believe it was stated in another thread but they didn't count cause they didn't happen on US soul or something.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 13, 2004, 4:44 pm

Soil. And no it doesn't really count because you are not in charge of security. An US Embassy is technically US soil but most of the surrounding security and intelligence is dependant on the host country.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » November 13, 2004, 4:52 pm

yea, soil, i'm drunk.

if that's true, how many attacks on the US have there been since we went into Afghanistan?

all i see is 9/11. EDIT* (actually, since afghanistan that would be 0 attacks)

am i wrong?

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 13, 2004, 6:15 pm

But the point is, how many before 9/11 in 60 years? 1 if you count the original WTC bombing.

Claiming Ashcroft did his job because he kept the attacks away is ridiculous. I have a magic rock that keeps terrorism away from Canada, wanna buy it?

Spang · Post by **Spang** » November 13, 2004, 6:19 pm

more than 1. a lot more. but only american deaths on american soil count.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 13, 2004, 7:43 pm

You are obviously not getting the point. Someone was saying that Ashcroft did a great job PROTECTING the US, and their argument was that not a single attack has happened since 9/11 and for that reason, this person thinks Ashcroft has done a great job.

My counter was that, there has only been 1 other attack on US soil in 60 years which would mean that its probably not Ashcroft keeping the evil terrorists away.

Get it? Wouldn't be surprised if you didn't.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » November 13, 2004, 7:46 pm

i get it, but you might be forgetting that i rarely respond to a thread on topic.

my argument is there has been more attacks on the US with clinton than there has been with GW.

we're both right

except for the fact we've been attacked numerous times before 9/11.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 13, 2004, 9:22 pm

Of course there is also the fact that after 9/11, thanks to the new laws and the fear mongering here in the US the terrorists haven't had a reason to attack again. Ashcroft did their job for them.

Plus, big attacks take time to plan. But I can guarantee you that ther cells are already in the US.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » November 13, 2004, 9:30 pm

Of course there is also the fact that after 9/11, thanks to the new laws and the fear mongering here in the US the terrorists haven't had a reason to attack again. Ashcroft did their job for them.

so what's the problem? not being attacked is a good thing, imo.

Thess · Post by **Thess** » November 13, 2004, 10:28 pm

You guys are misinterpretting the job of Atorney General. It is not to keep america safe, it is to prosecute.

During Clinton's administration, he found and prosecuted the terrorists involved in the world trade center. Bush has not - and John Ashcroft has only received one conviction which was overturned due to mismanagement.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 13, 2004, 11:37 pm

Spang wrote:
Of course there is also the fact that after 9/11, thanks to the new laws and the fear mongering here in the US the terrorists haven't had a reason to attack again. Ashcroft did their job for them.
so what's the problem? not being attacked is a good thing, imo.

Nazi-Germany wasn't attacked either until they struck out.

VeeshanVault

fascist douche bag

Did John Ashcroft do a good job in his roll of attorney general over the past 4 years?

fascist douche bag