Unbelievable, placing blame 2 days later...

[Metanis]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... _school_dc

Command Failure Seen at Fault in Beslan Massacre

By Tom Miles

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Security forces bungled the handling of Russia's worst hostage drama because nobody was in charge and special forces were not ready when the shooting started, security analysts said on Monday.

This just blows me away. The bodies of the dead haven't even cooled down and the press is already assessing blame?

And they want to blame the security forces?

This kind of crap just makes me furious. There is only one group at blame in this situation... the terrorists.

/rant off

[Kelshara]

Actually the security forces did mess up, that was posted here on the day it happened. They were not ready to go in and the order was not given when the soldiers charged the building.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... _school_dc

Command Failure Seen at Fault in Beslan Massacre

By Tom Miles

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Security forces bungled the handling of Russia's worst hostage drama because nobody was in charge and special forces were not ready when the shooting started, security analysts said on Monday.

This just blows me away. The bodies of the dead haven't even cooled down and the press is already assessing blame?

And they want to blame the security forces?

This kind of crap just makes me furious. There is only one group at blame in this situation... the terrorists.

/rant off

Yes Met. I completely agree. I'm just waiting for America to get blamed in all this somehow. Of course, the evil America just agreed to send the maximum amount you can send to another country for a disaster like this in Aid. Those evil fucking Americans. When will this desire to help those in need all over the world end? WHEN?

[Dregor Thule]

Yep. It's very tragic what happened, but that shouldn't stop the facts being known. If the security force bungled the job, then they bungled the job. It doesn't change the fact that people are mourning the dead. Yes, the militants that took the hostages in the first place are to blame, of course. But if the troops fucked up and it cause premature and/or more loss of life than could possibly otherwise have been avoided... if your child had died because of that, wouldn't you want all the truths to be found?

[Pherr the Dorf]

Especially with all the lies that have been told so far

[Dregor Thule]

Yes Met. I completely agree. I'm just waiting for America to get blamed in all this somehow. Of course, the evil America just agreed to send the maximum amount you can send to another country for a disaster like this in Aid. Those evil fucking Americans. When will this desire to help those in need all over the world end? WHEN?

Man, why such hatred? What did America ever do to you to deserve that? Damn dude

[Raistin]

From what was reported that day. There was a truce between the Commandos and the people inside the building. So that the commandos could remove the bodies that were dead outside the gym. They approched and started removing the bodies when a bomb went off inside from one of the "terrorists"

When the bomb went off, the children started running though the wall that was blown down from it. While they were running out, the " Terrirists" open fire on the children and adults. So all with in 10 seconds, the commandos were removing dead people, huge bomb goes off, children running, and being gunned down. What else would you expect them to do? Stand there and watch them be gunned down? Id have charged also to save the children. And thats what they did.

[Kelshara]

Not exactly. They returned fire to give the hostages cover, THEN charged without a go order. And with all the talk of soldiers obeying orders on this board.. heh. A poorly coordinated charge in a hostage situation is a recipe for disaster.

Btw the bomb didn't go off from one of the terrorists. Several hostages witnessed it falling off of the wall and exploding as it hit the floor (although the Russians still claim it was a suicide bomber.. of course so far they haven't exactly been very truthful of the situation).

[Raistin]

No shit they charged. Im sorry but if people are running out, and being shot at, of course Id cover them and then charge to get the rest out. By GUNNING DOWN the people running out, they already proved they will kill no matter what. Sitting there for a formal plan to go in and charge would have taken longer than unloading several clips in to a few hundred people sitting down.

I dont know about russia, but here in the us your basic squad is a total of 12 -15 people. We can launch a plan to go in and rescue people when we wish, if theres deadly harm being shown.

Situations change a lot. They could have had a plan in place to storm the building. Not one expecting one of the fucking peoples bombs fall and blow up, and plan the rescue off that. Only a dumbfuck would think they would have a plan for that.And you seem to be one of them.

And with all the talk of soldiers obeying orders on this board.. heh

I dont give a fuck what the few other fucking tards backing bush think. Sometimes you have to do, what you think will be the best for all. Goes to show you, people like you have no fucking clue what some people go though in training for these types of things. Laugh it up joke maker.

[kyoukan]

No Metanis is right. The Russian special forces should have been able to handle it as badly as they wanted because it's not their fault that it happened. Also, today is national say totally fucking moronic things day.

[Kelshara]

No shit they charged. Im sorry but if people are running out, and being shot at, of course Id cover them and then charge to get the rest out. By GUNNING DOWN the people running out, they already proved they will kill no matter what. Sitting there for a formal plan to go in and charge would have taken longer than unloading several clips in to a few hundred people sitting down.

Indeed it would take longer. It could also have saved lives overall. You don't charge headless into a place with lots of bombs and people you know are willing to blow themself up. No offense but SAS, the Israelis or US special forces would not have done that.

I dont know about russia, but here in the us your basic squad is a total of 12 -15 people. We can launch a plan to go in and rescue people when we wish, if theres deadly harm being shown.

There were a hell of a lot more soldiers there than just 12-15. There were also quite a few more terrorists than 12-15.

Situations change a lot. They could have had a plan in place to storm the building. Not one expecting one of the fucking peoples bombs fall and blow up, and plan the rescue off that. Only a dumbfuck would think they would have a plan for that.And you seem to be one of them.

Eh they would be stupid not to have a plan ready in case bombs started going off. You are incredibly naive if you deal with Black Widows and don't have that kind of plan implemented.

I dont give a fuck what the few other fucking tards backing bush think. Sometimes you have to do, what you think will be the best for all. Goes to show you, people like you have no fucking clue what some people go though in training for these types of things. Laugh it up joke maker.

My my what language. Best way to hide no real argument, eh?

[Cartalas]

No Metanis is right. The Russian special forces should have been able to handle it as badly as they wanted because it's not their fault that it happened. Also, today is national say totally fucking moronic things day.

Hence why you post

[vn_Tanc]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3632332.stm

This article has good infoz.
Are the terrorists to blame? Undoubtedly.
Are the questions on the security operation that need answering? Hell yes.