Kerry Team Lines Up Witnesses to Senate Career

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Kerry Team Lines Up Witnesses to Senate Career

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http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives ... tml#001810
(2004-08-24) -- The Kerry campaign ratcheted up its defense of the Democrat's Senate record today, producing several U.S. Senators to attest to John Forbes Kerry's presence during actual senate sessions.

The media-blitz came on the same day that the campaign trotted out witnesses to Mr. Kerry's military exploits in Vietnam.

Mr. Kerry, who was elected to the Senate in 1984, faces allegations that he rarely attended intelligence committee hearings, missed many votes and sponsored no significant legislation.

But Sen. Edward M. 'Ted' Kennedy, D-MA, contradicted those claims.

"I saw John on several occasions during the past two decades," said Mr. Kennedy. "I can't recall if I saw him in person, or on C-Span, but he looked very senatorial and appeared to be doing something...you know, for the people."

Another senator, who insisted on anonymity, agreed with Mr. Kennedy.

"I distinctly remember seeing John Kerry in the senate chambers on Christmas eve," said the unnamed senator. "That picture of him working through the Christmas break is seared....seared in my memory. He gave no thought to himself. His devotion was to the common people whom he served with valor."
I got a chuckle out of this one.

Disclaimer for my liberal friends - The article is a spoof. It's a joke. It's meant to be humorous.
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Well this from factcheck.org, isn't a spoof.
Official records show Kerry not present for at least 76% of public hearings held during his eight years on the panel, and possibly 78% (the record of one hearing is ambiguous).
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But Sen. Edward M. 'Ted' Kennedy, D-MA, contradicted those claims.

"I saw John on several occasions during the past two decades," said Mr. Kennedy. "I can't recall if I saw him in person, or on C-Span, but he looked very senatorial and appeared to be doing something...you know, for the people."
lol, that quote is more hurtful than helpful for Kerry.

Paraphrase..well I think I saw him..but not actually with my own eyes or on TV...huh? He saw him on a few occasions over 2 decades?
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So let me get this straight. The president who has taken more vacation and worked less hours than any single president in the post industrial age, the same man who skipped out on the cushiest wartime assignment possible, is trying to make it seem like Kerry doesn't show up for work? This is their new smear tactic?

hahahahahahahaha

Next you will see how Kerry believes he is Jesus and threatens to repeal the seperation of church and state!

But seriously, is that why the GOP have been staging all these extra votes lately? The congress is now being used as a campaigning mechanism of the GOP so brazenly? I believe that is the sound of the fat lady warming up that you dittoheads are hearing.........
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Jice Virago wrote:So let me get this straight. The president who has taken more vacation and worked less hours than any single president
You do realize that presidents are never on vacation. They can make decisions from wherever they are. Camp David is not a vacation. You don't have to be locked up in the Oval Office to be doing your job especially today with long distance communication an afterthought.

Where did you get this vacation data and proof that he wasn't actually doing anything while away from the White House? Moore?
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Winnow wrote:
Jice Virago wrote:So let me get this straight. The president who has taken more vacation and worked less hours than any single president
You do realize that presidents are never on vacation. They can make decisions from wherever they are. Camp David is not a vacation. You don't have to be locked up in the Oval Office to be doing your job especially today with long distance communication an afterthought.

Where did you get this vacation data and proof that he wasn't actually doing anything while away from the White House? Moore?
Because we all know when hes out golfing and fishing for 16 hours a day on those "intense work-vacations" his mind is at full speed philosophically, as he comes up with brilliant tactics and scrutinizes his intel reports to make sure that Iraq really does have stockpiles of WMD

The same could be said about sen.Kerry being absent. Your attacks are pretty damn bad Winnow, but honestly i cant blame you. I have to admit you do a great job trying to defend the complete dumbass and miserable failure that is George Dubyah, keep at it and maybe youl be in Johnny Cockrin(sp)'s position one day 8)
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Winnow wrote:Where did you get this vacation data
Google is your friend.

(2003)

According to an August 2003 article in the Washington Post, President Bush has spent all or part of 166 days during his presidency at his Crawford, Texas, ranch or en route. Add the time spent at or en route to the presidential retreat of Camp David and at the Bush family estate in Kennebunkport, Maine, and Bush has taken 250 days off as of August 2003. That's 27% of his presidency spent on vacation. Although to be fair, much of this time is classified as a "working vacation."

George Bush Sr. took all or part of 543 vacation days at Camp David and in Kennebunkport. Ronald Reagan spent 335 days at or en route to his Santa Barbara, California, ranch during his eight years in office. Of recent presidents, Jimmy Carter took the least days off -- only 79 days, which he usually spent at his home in Georgia. That's less than three weeks a year, which is closer to the average American's paid time off of 13 days per year.

What about Clinton? As of December 1999, President Bill Clinton had spent only 152 days on holiday during his two terms, according to CBS News.

And in barely three years in office, George W. Bush has already taken more vacation than Clinton did in seven years.

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...asked him when he first found out about the report from the FBI's Minnesota field office that Zacarias Moussaoui, an Islamic jihadist, had been taking lessons on how to fly a 747. Tenet replied that he was briefed about the case on Aug. 23 or 24, 2001.

Roemer then asked Tenet if he mentioned Moussaoui to President Bush at one of their frequent morning briefings. Tenet replied, "I was not in briefings at this time." Bush, he noted, "was on vacation." He added that he didn't see the president at all in August 2001. During the entire month, Bush was at his ranch in Texas.

...National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice has made a big point of the fact that Tenet briefed the president nearly every day. Yet at the peak moment of threat, the two didn't talk at all. At a time when action was needed, and orders for action had to come from the top, the man at the top was resting undisturbed.

...A USA Today story, written right before Bush took off, reported that the vacation—scheduled to last from Aug. 3 to Sept. 3—would tie one of Richard Nixon's as the longest that any president had ever taken. A week before he left, Bush made a videotaped message for the Boy Scouts of America. On the tape, he said, "I'll be going to my ranch in Crawford, where I'll work and take a little time off. I think it is so important for the president to spend some time away from Washington, in the heartland of America."

So much for his vacations being 'working' vacations..

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(Aug 19,2004)

A CBS News tally shows that President Bush is now making his 38th visit to his Prairie Chapel ranch since taking office. Add up the number of full or partial days he has been there - it comes out to 254.

That's about 20 percent of his presidency. Add in his time at Camp David and the Bush family home in Kennebunkport, Maine, and the percentage more than doubles. And the White House is self-conscious about it.
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It means nothing. Clinton was getting BJs in the Oval Office. Why should he leave it? His wife and daughter hated him. Why take vacations?
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rofl you are so reaching now..
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I work from home all the time does that mean Im on vacation NO!! so fuck off all of you. You have no clue.
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I work when I go golfing all the time to be honest.

And you didn't even add that Bush has given the least amount of speeches since TV started. geez
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Winnow wrote:It means nothing. Clinton was getting BJs in the Oval Office. Why should he leave it? His wife and daughter hated him. Why take vacations?
That's the best you've got? Winnow.. please, for the love of God. I know you can come up with a response better than someone like Midnyte would use. Winni would be so ashamed. /mourn
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Siji wrote:
Winnow wrote:It means nothing. Clinton was getting BJs in the Oval Office. Why should he leave it? His wife and daughter hated him. Why take vacations?
That's the best you've got? Winnow.. please, for the love of God. I know you can come up with a response better than someone like Midnyte would use. Winni would be so ashamed. /mourn
I thought that one was pretty good.

People have different styles. Teddy Roosevelt...how much was he around the White House? (actually I have no idea!) Wasn't he off hunting wild game or on some adventure all the time?

I think Clinton liked the nightlife of Washington while Bush likes the outdoors more. Air Force One is a mobile office. Anywhere he goes, the president has access to whatever he needs.
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10 VVs to the first person who can remember what this thread is supposed to be about!
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Winnow wrote:I think Clinton liked the nightlife of Washington while Bush likes the outdoors more. Air Force One is a mobile office. Anywhere he goes, the president has access to whatever he needs.
What nightlife are you talking about? The guy was ordering pizza and getting his nobbers from that moo cow while simultaneously talking on the phone with congressional lawmakers about current legislation. He was too fucking busy to get a descent hummer, the poor guy had to settle for papa johns and the secratarial pool. But I will admit that the capitol buildings can be festive, what with the congressman having corination cerimonies for King Moonie and all.
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The amusing part is watching people that are completely partisan jump to the defence of their party mouthpiece..

It's one thing aligning yourself to a party/ideal, it's quite another to link yourself to a politician... (unless you're blowing/married to them)
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