Racist about to win a Congressional seat in TN

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » August 6, 2004, 12:23 pm

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040806/D849H5G80.html

An unabashed racist will represent the Republican party in the November election for a congressional seat after a write-in candidate failed to derail his effort.

With 86 percent of the primary vote counted Thursday, write-in candidate Dennis Bertrand had just 1,554 votes compared to 7,671, or 83 percent, for James L. Hart, a believer in the discredited, phony science of eugenics.

In November, the GOP candidate will oppose Rep. John Tanner, a Democrat who has represented the northwest Tennessee district for 15 years.

Hart, 60, vows if elected to work toward keeping "less favored races" from reproducing or immigrating to the United States. In campaign literature, Hart contends that "poverty genes" threaten to turn the United States into "one big Detroit."

"I didn't expect to win," Hart said. "I thought their network would beat my ideas."

He has run for the 8th District seat before and drawn little attention. But people began to notice this time because he was the only Republican on the ballot.

Since the deadline for getting on the ballot had passed, Bertrand, also a Republican, began a write-in campaign, saying he wanted to protect the party's honor.

"I think his beliefs are not beliefs of any party that I know of," Bertrand said Thursday night. "I knew it was going to be a really long shot, but in good conscience, I had to at least give it an attempt."

Bertrand, a financial analyst and former military officer, was on active duty with the National Guard when the deadline to get on the primary ballot passed.

Hart said he will have lots of time to campaign for the general election since he was forced Wednesday to resign from his job as a real estate salesman because of the attention he drew during the primary.

"They didn't say 'You're fired' in exactly those words, but it was pretty clear what they wanted," Hart said.

While campaigning, Hart sometimes wears a protective vest and carries a .40-caliber pistol, but he said he has run into no trouble.

"When I knock on a door and say white children deserve the same rights as everybody else, the enthusiastic response is truly amazing," he said.

If a black person opens the door, he says he simply drops off campaign literature and leaves.

My party, and in my own state. Amazing. I can picture this guy playing it slick door to door, "I want your kids to be able to go to college on scholarships too!" What white parent would not agree with that and consider to give their vote to the guy, and I bet hardly none know the rest of his beliefs. That's what I am hoping anyway. 83% of the vote, please let that be the case. But hey, what else should I expect from Tennessee.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » August 6, 2004, 12:26 pm

DAMN!!! thats sad.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » August 6, 2004, 12:39 pm

i certainly hope the national or state offices of the Republican Party are giving him any money to assist in his campaign.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » August 6, 2004, 1:34 pm

I think this qualifies as the Holy Shit of the Week.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » August 6, 2004, 1:49 pm

I agree... HSotW and soooo close to Arkansas... too many morons out there, the scary thing is he might get elected... nm those "Civil Rights Bills" or anything.

Marb

masteen · Post by **masteen** » August 6, 2004, 2:20 pm

While eugenics in humans has yet to show any veracity (prolly because of the difficulty in getting humans to breed according to a plan and the length of a human generation), selective breeding certainly works in other species.

OTOH, the concept of a "poverty gene" is patently ridiculous.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » August 6, 2004, 2:25 pm

He isn't going to be elected. The democratic incumbent has been serving for 15 years. It is obvious the only reason this dip shit was the only republican in their primary is that no one wants to run against the democrat, either because they think he can't be beaten, or because he's well liked and no one wants to oust him. So I would say that it is virtually impossible that the racist tard will get elected to office.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 6, 2004, 2:59 pm

It's only important when a Republican is involved eh? LOL

Senator Robert C. Byrd (WV)

Current Office: U.S. Senator
Current District: Senior Seat
First Elected: 11/04/1958
Last Elected: 2000
Next Election: 2006
Party: Democrat

Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) for a period of time in the early 1940s. In a letter he wrote in 1946, he said, "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia." However, by the time he ran for Congress in 1952, he announced, "After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in the organization. During the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan."

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 6, 2004, 3:02 pm

I seriously doubt if elected he will remain in office if he has those sort of ignorant and idiotic ideals. That or he may have an accident...more than likely there will be incriminating photo's surfacing of him and an underage asian or black girl in comprimising positions. A sex scandal will make him drop from the runnings and all will be well in the world. If not, well then Midnyte's hero can be put in office and he can wear his sheet with pride on the streets during his yearly march...

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 6, 2004, 3:18 pm

And Midnyte once again wins the "Idiot of the Thread" award!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 6, 2004, 3:36 pm

Kelshara wrote:And Midnyte once again wins the "Idiot of the Thread" award!

You are fasting overtaking the title of queen of the useless one liners!

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 6, 2004, 3:49 pm

Fasting?

To abstain from food.
To eat very little or abstain from certain foods, especially as a religious discipline.

What the fuck?
How does that have anything to do with that?

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 6, 2004, 3:50 pm

I got a long long way to go to catch up to you Winnow, so no need to worry yet.

And as hungry as I am I feel like I have been fasting!

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » August 6, 2004, 3:57 pm

I think the guy is pathetic and doesn't appear too bright.

miir · Post by **miir** » August 6, 2004, 3:59 pm

So you fail to see the difference between a senator who was a KKK member but denounced them over 50 years ago and a present day politician who blatantly uses racisim in his campaingn platform?

I guess you really are that dense.

miir · Post by **miir** » August 6, 2004, 4:01 pm

Metanis wrote:I think the guy is pathetic and doesn't appear too bright.

Who, Midnyte?

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » August 6, 2004, 4:29 pm

I think, Mid, that you might be the only one who cares that it's a republican since he was running unopposed (aside from the write-in candidate).

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » August 6, 2004, 5:23 pm

miir wrote:
Metanis wrote:I think the guy is pathetic and doesn't appear too bright.
Who, Midnyte?

No, I was speaking of James L. Hart.

I think Midnyte correctly points out that racism is not only a Republican failing.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 6, 2004, 5:33 pm

No it is not, and racists of all races/sexes/political beliefs should be shot on sight imho. But to compare those two people is.. well.. a tad bit retarded. And to hunt down something like that (which is grasping bigtime) instead of actually commenting on the thing itself is.. well.. Winnow like!

Post by **Sylvus** » August 6, 2004, 5:42 pm

Particularly when no one in the thread, in my brief skimming, had mentioned anything about Republicans, yet Midnyte felt the need to do pointless research to try and slam a Democrat. Thx (50-year-old) info!

The point was that a racist might be elected, not which party he hailed from. Hell, the thread was posted by a Republican who lives in that state...

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » August 6, 2004, 5:47 pm

Well I DID mention that I am a Republican and was ashamed of this guy in my original post, maybe Mid skipped it when reaching for his troll button.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » August 6, 2004, 6:01 pm

Kelshara wrote:... racists of all races/sexes/political beliefs should be shot on sight imho...

So in your enlightened liberal opinion some people deserve to die merely because they hold a belief system alien to yours?

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » August 6, 2004, 6:04 pm

You know, you bring up a good point. I heard about this white guy in high school that had said something racist, I was on my way to go beat his ass, and my best friend stopped and asked me almost the same question "you mean you would beat someone up because of their beliefs?". He made me feel very small and stopped me dead in my tracks.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 6, 2004, 6:21 pm

Metanis wrote:
Kelshara wrote:... racists of all races/sexes/political beliefs should be shot on sight imho...
So in your enlightened liberal opinion some people deserve to die merely because they hold a belief system alien to yours?

I would personally love to see all truly racist people shot in the fucking head, because to me, anyone with that mentality is worthless scum, that can do no good for this world. That or i would support a law where if anyone commits a valid "hate crime" against a minority, there punishment would be to spend two hours in a room with 10 bodybuilders and/or martial arts experts of that race of wich they were bashing...as long as theres no death, or sexual acts, all is fair game, up to 11 major bones can be fractured and/or broken

Your right though mentanis, dems have dumbass racist assholes too...aka Zel Miller, but thankfully most of those dems suport Bush and generally conservative values

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 6, 2004, 6:41 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:Well I DID mention that I am a Republican and was ashamed of this guy in my original post, maybe Mid skipped it when reaching for his troll button.

Well you can't expect Mid to actually listen to what them colored folks have to say.....
/sarcasm

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 6, 2004, 6:56 pm

Actually most racists like Midnyte are not republican or democrat. Being political implies a basic amount of situational awareness which is usually not obtained by those ignorant enough to be racist.

of course people like Midnyte exist to stand as the exception that proves the rule.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » August 6, 2004, 6:57 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:You know, you bring up a good point. I heard about this white guy in high school that had said something racist, I was on my way to go beat his ass, and my best friend stopped and asked me almost the same question "you mean you would beat someone up because of their beliefs?". He made me feel very small and stopped me dead in my tracks.

Krimson, thank you for expressing this.

Kelshara and Xzion,

Racism is evil. It's the province of small minds and smaller hearts.

Racists are normal people with a faulty or undesired belief system. Advocating their murder puts you on the same level as Hitler or Osama.

Intolerance is evil too.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » August 6, 2004, 7:24 pm

I wouldn't want to kill racist people. It brings you down to their level, and is far too clean an outcome for them. I'd prefer they go through life ridiculed and condemned by society. That's good turnabout right there.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 6, 2004, 7:29 pm

I agree Met. Racists like Kylere and Kelshara shouldn't be shot on sight. The act of hating a group of racists like them is almost equal as hating entire races of people like Kylerre and Kelshara do.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 6, 2004, 7:32 pm

Last time I checked, Kylere and Kel weren't saying "Fuck Muslims", and yes, I'm bringing that back up.

BTW, didn't you quit this board?

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » August 6, 2004, 7:33 pm

Kelshara wrote:No it is not, and racists of all races/sexes/political beliefs should be shot on sight imho. But to compare those two people is.. well.. a tad bit retarded. And to hunt down something like that (which is grasping bigtime) instead of actually commenting on the thing itself is.. well.. Winnow like!

I think we're all at least a little racist, and that it's not being honest with yourself to tell yourself you aren't.

That being said I try my best not to be.

-=Lohrno

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 6, 2004, 7:34 pm

Kelshara wrote:No it is not, and racists of all races/sexes/political beliefs should be shot on sight imho. But to compare those two people is.. well.. a tad bit retarded. And to hunt down something like that (which is grasping bigtime) instead of actually commenting on the thing itself is.. well.. Winnow like!

Do you really feel its retarded to compare these two? They both feel the same way. One just stopped saying how he feels publicly about 50 years ago. In fact, that one is actually in power and on the side of those who "represent" the very race he dislikes. Interesting.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 6, 2004, 7:36 pm

Lynks wrote:Last time I checked, Kylere and Kel weren't saying "Fuck Muslims", and yes, I'm bringing that back up.

BTW, didn't you quit this board?

I said I was making another attempt. I can't stay away, /shrug. This board needs more level headed people on it. I'll just have to live with the idiots calling my things I am not. Fuck em!

miir · Post by **miir** » August 6, 2004, 7:38 pm

I think we're all at least a little racist, and that it's not being honest with yourself to tell yourself you aren't.

I am being completely honest when I say that I am not racist in any way shape or form. I'm not even a 'little racist'.

I was raised to judge individuals by their actions, not the colour of their skin.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: Fuck em!

But only if they're muslims!

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 6, 2004, 7:39 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:In fact, that one is actually in power and on the side of those who "represent" the very race he dislikes. Interesting.

Fuck you're stupid. So if he is representing the race he dislikes (according to you), don't you think that he realizes that he WAS wrong and is now doing the right thing?

There's hope for you too Mid, you don't need to be a bigot for the rest of you life.

This board needs more level headed people on it.

Then get the fuck off, you're the imbalance in the force.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 6, 2004, 7:40 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I agree Met. Racists like Kylere and Kelshara shouldn't be shot on sight. The act of hating a group of racists like them is almost equal as hating entire races of people like Kylerre and Kelshara do.

Godamn you arnt very bright are you?
You arnt born racist, being racist is something you choose to be, and something you can change.
Hating assholes based on the fact that they choose to be assholes is Okay, hating someone becouse of the color of there eyes or the region of the world there grandparents were born in is fubar
To be fair though my grandmother is a little racist (also a staunch republican

) being that her brit dad had a plantation in cuba and grew up around slavery

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 6, 2004, 7:42 pm

Hey Midnyte, you are a racist scumbag and can suck my cock.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » August 6, 2004, 7:52 pm

miir wrote: I am being completely honest when I say that I am not racist in any way shape or form. I'm not even a 'little racist'.

I was raised to judge individuals by their actions, not the colour of their skin.

No offense, but I kind of doubt it. I admire your upbringing. I was brought up like that as well. But I think that even if you don't do it consciously, there probably is some little part of your subconscious that is doing this. I think that even if you think you aren't you probably are and don't know it. Seriously, analyze closely the way you interract with different people, and try to objectively see if there is any difference. I would wager there is. It is good to try to not be, and fight this though. We should all get along.

I'm not excusing those who embrace this aspect of themselves and are blatantly mean, make no mistake. I don't think they need to be shot though.
(Unless they are murderers.)

-=Lohrno

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 6, 2004, 7:57 pm

Kylere wrote:Hey Midnyte, you are a racist scumbag and can suck my cock.

I'll pass, you hate filled racist.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 6, 2004, 8:05 pm

So in your enlightened liberal opinion some people deserve to die merely because they hold a belief system alien to yours?

No it was a way for me to express my complete dislike for racists. I am against the death penalty (as I have said here on this board in prior threads) so no I wouldn't want to see them shot. I might have chosen a poor way to express my distaste for it though, I'll admit that. I'd love to see all racists disappear from the world though (yeah yeah I know, can dream though).

I think we're all at least a little racist, and that it's not being honest with yourself to tell yourself you aren't.

I've heard this before, and I've thought about it a lot. And I don't think it is true. Would love to hear more of your argument for it though as I find the whole thing pretty interesting. I got a very diverse upbringing with a father on one side of the political spectrum and a mother on the other, travelled a lot, read a lot (mom is a librarian heh) etc. I've tried to analyze how I react to others of different races but I've yet to see a difference (I am very outspoken etc to anyone).

Do you really feel its retarded to compare these two? They both feel the same way. One just stopped saying how he feels publicly about 50 years ago.

Yes it is retarded, idiotic, stupid etc.. you name it (you're good at that). A lot of people rebel to a smaller or greater degree when they are young, and then they grow out of it and grow up. I did it myself with car racing, others do it with political beliefs etc. I highly doubt nothing would have come up in those 50 years if that was not the case, and comparing something that happened 50 years ago by a youth to something a grown up does today.. well hell, you preach so much about not living in the past with how the US Government does things.. get the picture?

I said I was making another attempt. I can't stay away, /shrug. This board needs more level headed people on it. I'll just have to live with the idiots calling my things I am not. Fuck em!

Yeah you're so level headed. Fuck muslims! Fuck Allah!

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » August 6, 2004, 8:14 pm

Lohrno wrote:
miir wrote: I am being completely honest when I say that I am not racist in any way shape or form. I'm not even a 'little racist'.

I was raised to judge individuals by their actions, not the colour of their skin.
No offense, but I kind of doubt it. I admire your upbringing. I was brought up like that as well. But I think that even if you don't do it consciously, there probably is some little part of your subconscious that is doing this. I think that even if you think you aren't you probably are and don't know it. Seriously, analyze closely the way you interract with different people, and try to objectively see if there is any difference. I would wager there is. It is good to try to not be, and fight this though. We should all get along.

I'm not excusing those who embrace this aspect of themselves and are blatantly mean, make no mistake. I don't think they need to be shot though.
(Unless they are murderers.)

-=Lohrno

You're from the states, correct? Ok, I can understand why you'd doubt this then, because you're just not able to understand the subtle differences in average social attitudes towards these things when comparing the States vs. Canada. No, I'm not saying Canada is some utopian society where everyone feels all people are equal and race means nothing. What I'm saying is that yes, there is a larger amount of people here who don't view things through a veil of race.

My folks are a little racist (my father mostly, but he's Australian, FUCK AUSSIES?), so I feel pretty good about myself for having grown up not caring about race. That only happened because of the society I grew up in. I limit my intollerance to morons

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » August 6, 2004, 8:22 pm

I'm against applied eugenics. The concept of hindering someone from procreating, from fulfilling their biologically determined duty, is repulsive to me. Having children should be a right, it should not be limited by laws, rules or statutes.

However, I would make an exception if it meant stopping people from being raised like Midnyte obviously was. We do not need more small-minded, self-righteous, hateful, bigoted, myopic people in the world.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » August 6, 2004, 8:41 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:You're from the states, correct? Ok, I can understand why you'd doubt this then, because you're just not able to understand the subtle differences in average social attitudes towards these things when comparing the States vs. Canada. No, I'm not saying Canada is some utopian society where everyone feels all people are equal and race means nothing. What I'm saying is that yes, there is a larger amount of people here who don't view things through a veil of race.

My folks are a little racist (my father mostly, but he's Australian, FUCK AUSSIES?), so I feel pretty good about myself for having grown up not caring about race. That only happened because of the society I grew up in. I limit my intollerance to morons

Yes I'm from the States...maybe I wouldn't come to this conclusion if I was from Canada, but I'm not sure.

I just think that it's quite probably that prejudice is something that probably comes naturally, and has been with us since the beginning. I wouldn't say this about full blown bigotry, but I think there probably is at least some sort of subconscious classification going on even if you're not aware of it. Perhaps it helped when we were fighting with neanderthals, or others of our species. Perhaps it's natural for our brain to classify things. I do think it's going on though.

-=Lohrno

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » August 6, 2004, 9:34 pm

Lohrno wrote:
Dregor Thule wrote:You're from the states, correct? Ok, I can understand why you'd doubt this then, because you're just not able to understand the subtle differences in average social attitudes towards these things when comparing the States vs. Canada. No, I'm not saying Canada is some utopian society where everyone feels all people are equal and race means nothing. What I'm saying is that yes, there is a larger amount of people here who don't view things through a veil of race.

My folks are a little racist (my father mostly, but he's Australian, FUCK AUSSIES?), so I feel pretty good about myself for having grown up not caring about race. That only happened because of the society I grew up in. I limit my intollerance to morons
Yes I'm from the States...maybe I wouldn't come to this conclusion if I was from Canada, but I'm not sure.

I just think that it's quite probably that prejudice is something that probably comes naturally, and has been with us since the beginning. I wouldn't say this about full blown bigotry, but I think there probably is at least some sort of subconscious classification going on even if you're not aware of it. Perhaps it helped when we were fighting with neanderthals, or others of our species. Perhaps it's natural for our brain to classify things. I do think it's going on though.

-=Lohrno

I'd agree with you to a point. We all have primative tribal instincts but society plays a huge part in our racial tolerances. We have racists, bigots, etc in Canada but it is a minor issue here whereas it is a huge issue in the states. Part of that is due to history (i.e. slavery) and part of it is multiculturalism is something that mosts Canadians view as part of our national identity and we take pride in it.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » August 6, 2004, 9:36 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Kylere wrote:Hey Midnyte, you are a racist scumbag and can suck my cock.
I'll pass, you hate filled racist.

Again with the need to label everyone. Tsk Tsk.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » August 6, 2004, 9:39 pm

Dregor Thule wrote: You're from the states, correct? Ok, I can understand why you'd doubt this then, because you're just not able to understand the subtle differences in average social attitudes towards these things when comparing the States vs. Canada. No, I'm not saying Canada is some utopian society where everyone feels all people are equal and race means nothing. What I'm saying is that yes, there is a larger amount of people here who don't view things through a veil of race.

My folks are a little racist (my father mostly, but he's Australian, FUCK AUSSIES?), so I feel pretty good about myself for having grown up not caring about race. That only happened because of the society I grew up in. I limit my intollerance to morons

I agree wholeheartedly with Lohrno. I would put cash down that says at least 85% of the people you associate with on a normal basis outside of work are all the same race and creed as yourself. You will have more in common with them and it is just natural that you would feel more comfortable with people that you can identify with easier.

Now lets ask Krimson this....since everyone who is claiming they are not racist in any way, shape, or form are white. Krim.....are an overwhelming majority of the people you would associate with outside of work white or black?

On the original topic......this is not a new thing at all. Does the name David Duke ring a bell? Is it wrong for a complete and unabashed racist to be a representative for a state? I would have to say that it is probably not...and further I would say that it is a good thing (in kind of an odd way) in that it does represent what would be a large portion of the citizens of that state. The whole reason for representatives is to represent the district's beliefs....not necessarily their own. I am actually surprised that some states do not have many more racists as it would be a much truer representation of their citizens.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » August 6, 2004, 9:51 pm

You can lay all the money down you want, but you'd be wrong. Growing up, yes, most of the people I associated with were white, because that was how it ended up at the school I was. Mostly white kids, with East Indians coming in second, followed by Asian, and a small black popullation. That was just my school tho, it didn't stop me from knowing them. As for now I'd have to say most of the people (not online) that I associate are latino, a few Jamaican and Africans. I feel completely comfortable going out, having some drinks, watching a movie, with ALL of them. I can only think of 3 "white" people I hang out with honestly.

And for the record, no, I'm not trying to say this as some badge of honour-type thing saying "Woo woo, look at me, I'm friends with the minorities!". Kilmoll said I was talking bullshit, I told him different.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » August 6, 2004, 10:27 pm

Most of my friends outside of work are white. My lifelong best freind who was my best man, and I his, is white. Named my first child after my other friend who is black. My wife is black, my kid's god parents are white, I am godparent to my black friends' children back in Virginia. I guess am pretty well rounded. I did notice that I caught myself staring at an Indian fellow today and I was not exactly thinking good thoughts (I work at Dell and we have many jobs outsourced in India right now) so I am not perfect however.

I have found that a good way to look within yourself to see if you have racist undertones is to ask yourself this question. What would you think if your harvard grad daughter brought home her Harvard grad fiance to meet the family, and he was black/white/Indian/Latino or whatever other race you care to insert. Be honest to yourself, no one knows your answer but you.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 6, 2004, 10:36 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:Most of my friends outside of work are white. My lifelong best freind who was my best man, and I his, is white. Named my first child after my other friend who is black. My wife is black, my kid's god parents are white, I am godparent to my black friends' children back in Virginia. I guess am pretty well rounded. I did notice that I caught myself staring at an Indian fellow today and I was not exactly thinking good thoughts (I work at Dell and we have many jobs outsourced in India right now) so I am not perfect however.

I have found that a good way to look within yourself to see if you have racist undertones is to ask yourself this question. What would you think if your harvard grad daughter brought home her Harvard grad fiance to meet the family, and he was black/white/Indian/Latino or whatever other race you care to insert. Be honest to yourself, no one knows your answer but you.

That's a great way to look at it. Personally I wouldn't care what race or color, as long as he was a good person who treated my daughter good.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 6, 2004, 10:37 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote: What would you think if your harvard grad daughter brought home her Harvard grad fiance to meet the family, and he was black/white/Indian/Latino or whatever other race you care to insert. Be honest to yourself, no one knows your answer but you.

I'm not sure what being a Harvard grad has anything to do with it unless you're throwing in discrimination regarding education or hinting about wealth being a factor in racial discrimination.

The only thing that would matter to me is that I raised my daughter/son with as little political, racial or religious discrimination as possible. If I did my job, which is mostly educating but not influencing, I'd be happy with whomever they chose to be with.