Militant fundies are teh smart

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » July 23, 2004, 2:02 pm

Just so we don't forget that not all the stupid people live in the West...

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040721/D83V82HO0.html

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A militant group said Wednesday it had taken two Kenyans, three Indians and an Egyptian hostage and would behead them if their countries did not announce their readiness to withdraw their troops from Iraq immediately.

None of those countries are part of the 160,000-member U.S.-led coalition force in the country.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » July 23, 2004, 3:20 pm

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » July 23, 2004, 3:24 pm

I saw that, but after this news bit I think they changed their demands to "have your company leave our lands"

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 23, 2004, 4:05 pm

Blame the Philippines. There's a reason you don't give into terrorist demands.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » July 23, 2004, 4:06 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:I saw that, but after this news bit I think they changed their demands to "have your company leave our lands"

"leave our lands" just made me think of "You have destroyed your own lands, you’ll not ruin mine!” for some reason.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 23, 2004, 4:59 pm

Winnow wrote:Blame the Philippines. There's a reason you don't give into terrorist demands.

The Philippines gave into terrorist demands when they agreed to join the Coalition of the Willing.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 23, 2004, 5:37 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:
Winnow wrote:Blame the Philippines. There's a reason you don't give into terrorist demands.
The Philippines gave into terrorist demands when they agreed to join the Coalition of the Willing.

...one of the weakest posts I've seen in awhile.

The reason you don't give into terrorists is it encourages them to keep doing it as witnessed on this thread.

I'll break it down into kiddie speak for you. Your mother is kidnapped by terrorists and they ask for $1 canadian for her release. You give it to them. Sweet! Your father is kidnapped next because the system works! You give another $1. Next, you are kidnapped but your parents have no $1 for you so you're killed.

Don't give in to terrorists. Giving into demands of individuals that hold innocent people hostage may seem like the easy way to save a life but in reality, it only causes more to die.

Twist away.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » July 24, 2004, 8:02 am

Hrmm, prior to the Phillipines agreeing to withdraw a few days early to save a hostage's life, did you see the kidnappings slowing down at all?

Prior to invading Iraq how many hostages were taken and paraded around on TV before being beheaded?

Now, tell me again who is "encouraging the terrorists"?

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » July 24, 2004, 10:54 am

That's true, but there hasn't been a US hostage in a while.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » July 24, 2004, 12:06 pm

Hrmm, about a week? They're clearly taking targets of opportunity though..

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 24, 2004, 2:52 pm

Winnow wrote:
Dregor Thule wrote:
Winnow wrote:Blame the Philippines. There's a reason you don't give into terrorist demands.
The Philippines gave into terrorist demands when they agreed to join the Coalition of the Willing.
...one of the weakest posts I've seen in awhile.

The reason you don't give into terrorists is it encourages them to keep doing it as witnessed on this thread.

I'll break it down into kiddie speak for you. Your mother is kidnapped by terrorists and they ask for $1 canadian for her release. You give it to them. Sweet! Your father is kidnapped next because the system works! You give another $1. Next, you are kidnapped but your parents have no $1 for you so you're killed.

Don't give in to terrorists. Giving into demands of individuals that hold innocent people hostage may seem like the easy way to save a life but in reality, it only causes more to die.

Twist away.

If i was there president and i had the opportunity to withdraw my troops 10 days ahead of schedule in order to save one of my fellow countrymens lives i would do it without question

Keep in mind we did turn Iraq over 3 days early, so who gives a shit

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » July 24, 2004, 3:19 pm

Good point.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 24, 2004, 4:16 pm

Xzion wrote: If i was there president and i had the opportunity to withdraw my troops 10 days ahead of schedule in order to save one of my fellow countrymens lives i would do it without question

Keep in mind we did turn Iraq over 3 days early, so who gives a shit

I didn't see that. They were scheduled to withdraw in 10 days anyway? That cetainly changes it a little bit.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » July 24, 2004, 7:34 pm

Giving in to the demands of cowards is an act of cowardice exceeding the motivating act.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » July 24, 2004, 11:44 pm

Kylere wrote:Giving in to the demands of cowards is an act of cowardice exceeding the motivating act.

I don't know what the FUCK you just said, Little Kid, but you're special man, you reached out, and you touch a brother's heart.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 25, 2004, 2:28 am

Zaelath wrote:
Kylere wrote:Giving in to the demands of cowards is an act of cowardice exceeding the motivating act.

I don't know what the FUCK you just said, Little Kid, but you're special man, you reached out, and you touch a brother's heart.

I don't know what you just said pal, but you just wrote a cheque your ass can't cash.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » July 25, 2004, 2:41 am

For those needing a primer in basic communication....

The motivating act is the kidnapping and demand, the only thing in the process displaying more cowardice than that, is giving in to the kidnappers.

Those who kidnap random civilians and threaten to execute them are decidedly cowards, not freedom fighters.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » July 25, 2004, 9:16 am

What's worse, withdrawing from a war to save your people's lives or joining a war in the first place because you're afraid that if you don't, the agressor might impose trade sanctions and cost your country billions

*cough*softwoodlumber*cough*livecattle*cough*

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 25, 2004, 5:51 pm

Animalor wrote:What's worse, withdrawing from a war to save your people's lives or joining a war in the first place because you're afraid that if you don't, the agressor might impose trade sanctions and cost your country billions

*cough*softwoodlumber*cough*livecattle*cough*

You just lost your american TV privileges for that remark!

Ceredwin · Post by **Ceredwin** » July 26, 2004, 1:06 pm

Zaelath wrote:Hrmm, prior to the Phillipines agreeing to withdraw a few days early to save a hostage's life, did you see the kidnappings slowing down at all?

Prior to invading Iraq how many hostages were taken and paraded around on TV before being beheaded?

Now, tell me again who is "encouraging the terrorists"?

It is not as if muslim fundamentalists only began kidnappings and murders after we invaded Iraq. This has been going on in the Phillipines for years. There are muslims trying to take over the southern islands who have been kidnapping westerners and trying to get concessions from the government. I can't recall the name of an American they executed, but later freed his wife, some TV movie was made about it later.

How about all the kidnappings in Beirut in the 80's or the American Embassy hostages in Iran? Just because the most recent ones are getting attention now does not make it a new method.

I was surprised by the Phillipines giving in, considering thier fight in thier own country against Al Queda backed extremists, capitulating on this one surely will not help them in the future.