Holy cow what a fun game.

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 6, 2004, 3:33 pm

A friend of mine suggested that I buy Gothic II.

I never heard of it before but it's a hell of a game with NO BUGS.

I've played for 16 hours and it hasn't crashed or bugged out once.

Imagine an Ultima 9 type interface tuned up and enhanced.

It has a fighting interface where you really have to think about your sword moves. The more skills you get the easier it is for you to go Zorro on someone's ass.

It's a perfect combo between RP stats and FPS with a broadsword.

It's got great sound and better than anything I LOVE to go hunting. You can really stalk things, and use your head to out trick stronger creatures to their death. For instance I tricked a horde of goblins into running off a cliff to their death. I climbed up into a nook on the side of a mountain and rained crossbow bolts down on a huge troll much more powerful than me.

You can specialize in alchemy, collecting parts of hunted animals for cash smithing etc.

The best weapons in the game are the ones you actually forge!

The world flow doesn't have zones. It kinda loads as you go.

In one mission you go sneak ninja style past a beseighing army of orcs and slip into a castle to help out the defenders.

It's not all hack and slash and it's not all stats and figures. It's a perfect blend. It has a great storyline that so far has been very immersive.

It's as broad as Morrowind but not as bland and cookie cuttered.

That fits it well, take a polished Morrowind, make it 10 times more fun and slap it into a polished Ultima 9 type interface, with just a dash of virtua fighter.

Hell of a game for $25.

BTW any of you guys played it or the first Gothic title?

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 6, 2004, 3:40 pm

Here's the Amazon.com link

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... s&n=507846

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 6, 2004, 8:25 pm

I'll have to check this out. Are there classes? Races? or sort of a pick skills here and there deal?

noel · Post by **noel** » July 6, 2004, 8:36 pm

I can't comment on Gothic 2, but I played through Gothic 1 and had a good time.

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 7, 2004, 12:19 am

The classes more closely fit the storyline than traditional RP.

There are three paths you can take. Paladin, Merc, and Fire Mage.

The mage is kinda a cross between a EQ cleric and a wizard.

The Paladin is fighter who works for the king and can cast a few prayers.

The Merc is a fighter hired by a rich landowner in the game who is pure melee. He outperforms the Paladin in melee skills.

I found myself choosing a class not because of the the ablities of the class but rather my agreeing with the politics of that particular faction. Go figure. Good storyline.

I forgot to mention that this game is rather adult oriented.

For example there's a whole tradeskill devoted to spiking tobacco with various shrooms and such to get the perfect buzz. With which you can sell to a tobacco vendor for a strong profit. You can smoke the stuff yourself and the screen goes nuts.

Another example of it's adult theme is when you visit a brothel, it acutally shows a cutscene of you and the girl getting it on.

There's also cuss words throughout the dialog.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 7, 2004, 1:41 am

You are making this very hard to resist, adex.

Aneron · Post by **Aneron** » July 8, 2004, 2:37 pm

Nice looking game....I think I'll pick this up. Especially since when I clicked the Amazon link they are now selling it for 9.99.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 8, 2004, 10:10 pm

Ok, just ordered it at nudging from the Lady.
Hope it's as good as you say bud

Avestan · Post by **Avestan** » July 9, 2004, 3:27 pm

I ordered it too (free thanks to Amazon credit card)

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » July 9, 2004, 5:15 pm

What kind of system specs is it asking for? Morrowind-ish?

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 9, 2004, 5:30 pm

Be sure to play it through until you at least join a guild.

The starting sequence is a little bland because you don't have any skills.

The fighting is tough at the beginning because you haven't trained enough for you to be fluid with your weapon usage.

You get sucked into the storyline bigtime after that.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 9, 2004, 5:34 pm

Restate first lien of that last post with explination please, Adex.

Play it through once w/o joining a guild, or join a guild as soon as you can, ect?

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 9, 2004, 5:56 pm

I think he meant once you join a guild it opens up a new dimension of the game and that's where it really starts to get interesting.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 12, 2004, 11:44 pm

Damn Adex your not doing too bad, you just sold me a copy too

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 13, 2004, 10:47 am

Anxiously waiting for it to arrive...

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » July 13, 2004, 11:06 am

Picked up a copy as well.
I am into the city and just getting my bearings while decide which guild to join.
I will likely end up going the paladin route.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 13, 2004, 12:11 pm

Looks like a fun game but i can honestly say i hate the controls, wheres the godamn mouse?

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 13, 2004, 12:38 pm

It's a little wierd at first but after a little while it fits like a glove.

BTW go to the cheat sites and learn how to modify the .ini file to allow you to quick save and quick load. The designers .ini disabled it because they thought it took away from the realism.

You can also turn up the gore level in the ini file. This is good because if you want to track something that you're hunting they'll leave a blood trail.

You can also configure the ini file to allow a hotkey to your best healing potion and your best mana potion. Again they by default disabled those features because they felt it took away from the realism.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » July 13, 2004, 12:57 pm

Thats funny, devs think it takes away from the realism
Im playing the game from a fucking keyboard, it doesnt get much more fake then that.

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 13, 2004, 2:40 pm

The mouse is used for positioning, while the keys are used to trigger different sword/bow/dodge combos. They couldn't do all of that on the mouse.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 13, 2004, 3:30 pm

yeah im getting used to the controls now, they just felt odd as hell at first

after you level up how the hell do you use your ability points?
ive been pressing all the godamn keys but i cant do anything on the "c" menu

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » July 13, 2004, 3:39 pm

You have to find someone to train you.

Some people will train in skills and others in stats, but all of them take a given ammount of learning points. Also some trainers will require money.

Tegellan · Post by **Tegellan** » July 13, 2004, 5:06 pm

Can you do multiplayer over a LAN or anything in this game?

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 13, 2004, 5:19 pm

Heh just to show you how literal they took this game I actually saw Bulco over in the Landowner's farm pissing on a tree when I walked by him in the early morning. They even animated the piss stream.

Those developers are crazy.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » July 13, 2004, 5:37 pm

The thought they put into the NPC interaction is amazing.

I dueled an NPC for 100gp and won.
While he was on the ground I looted him and took my 100gp. I figured that was the right thing to do.
About 10 seconds later he stands back up so I talk to him and he says "Well I see you already took your money. You could have waited for me to wake up, I gave you my word that I would pay you."

That was pretty cool.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 14, 2004, 12:11 am

Adex_Xeda wrote:Heh just to show you how literal they took this game I actually saw Bulco over in the Landowner's farm pissing on a tree when I walked by him in the early morning. They even animated the piss stream.

Those developers are crazy.

love the bongs in the main city

It felt really good to take out those godamn milita men at lvl 3 by chasing them into the forest and letting the raptors have there way with them while i stabed that militia fucker in the back

Menelaos · Post by **Menelaos** » July 14, 2004, 3:18 am

You bastard, forced me into buying this game >< Like I even have time to play them, lol

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 14, 2004, 12:19 pm

BTW there is a theives guild in the game. You can learn to pick pockets, sneak and pick locks.

They'll let you in if you let people off in the city after catching them doing something illegal.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » July 14, 2004, 2:21 pm

I found another way in Adex.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 14, 2004, 3:41 pm

Ok, I just happened to be in a GameSpot during lunch. I saw the game for $9.99 so I thought what the hell. I bought it and will install it tonight. I'd install it on my work machine but it seems they want me to work at work. I need my paycheck so I can afford to say what the hell and buy games.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 14, 2004, 11:46 pm

Ok so I get home and I want to install the game and the first disk doesn't work. It hangs on the autorun when I click on the install. I thought fine, I'll make an image and see if I can install from that. No go. So I am going to take it back and see if I can exchange it.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 15, 2004, 4:04 pm

If i was killed and accidentally saved my game is there anything i can do to come back to life?

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 16, 2004, 5:44 pm

I finished it today. I never played it before, and I took a casual pace. My playtime was right near 50 hours.

Satisfying game. They're writing the 3rd gothic title right now. Meanwhile I'm very tempted to purchase the first Gothic title.

Oh yea they also have some kind of expansion for Gothic II in the pipe.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 18, 2004, 4:22 pm

What faction did everyone here play under?
Im playing a merc and its an overall fun class faction,
although i heard that they dont have as many quests or things to do in chap one so i started chap 2 at a low level
Was thinking about replaying the game later under a fire mage

Any advice/perceptions of best strength/ gameplay value as any of the other factions?

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 18, 2004, 4:25 pm

I'm playing through as a militiaman atm, I'm in chapter 2, level, um, 9ish.
I don't know what to say abotu the class. I have a weapon, and I have scrolls. I don't get paladin Runes till chapter 3 or so, I hear.

Hate the combat system tho.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » July 19, 2004, 9:28 am

Are you playing with the Gothic 1 controls option on Ak?
I turned that off and combat is much more enjoyable.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 19, 2004, 9:59 am

I think I am.
What's the difference?

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 19, 2004, 10:47 am

It's much more enjoyable?

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » July 19, 2004, 10:55 am

Truant wrote:It's much more enjoyable?

Bleh thanks grammar nazi.

You don't have to hold down like 6 keys to attack Akaran.

Avestan · Post by **Avestan** » July 19, 2004, 12:24 pm

Hmm I am trying to become a magician and the guy tells me I need 1000 gold (check) and a sheep (wtf). Where do I get a sheep?

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 19, 2004, 12:52 pm

The sheepherder at the landowner's farm will sell you a sheep.

I played a pure warrior of course.

I kept the gothic 1 controls. I really enjoyed the swordplay that the interface provided.

If you get your training in 1h up enough you can swing that sword so fast that the badguys walk into a blender.

The 2h was fun because many monsters become one shot on kill. The 2h also has very nice range and the most powerful damage ratings.

I also found that with a high enough ranged weapon rating you can more or less use them effectively in a melee situtation. Kinda like sword fighting with a shotgun.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 19, 2004, 11:01 pm

Sabek wrote:
Truant wrote:It's much more enjoyable?
Bleh thanks grammar nazi.

You don't have to hold down like 6 keys to attack Akaran.

Actually, I was being a smartass. He asked what the difference was, I said it was much more enjoyable. I just answered a question with a question to be a smartass.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » July 20, 2004, 12:06 am

Truant wrote:
Sabek wrote:
Truant wrote:It's much more enjoyable?
Bleh thanks grammar nazi.

You don't have to hold down like 6 keys to attack Akaran.
Actually, I was being a smartass. He asked what the difference was, I said it was much more enjoyable. I just answered a question with a question to be a smartass.

LOL

Ah missed that connection.

Given the normal cut-throat on VV I assume it was blasting me for saying much more enjoyable.

No harm no foul.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 20, 2004, 11:22 am

I use the WADScontrols to move and the mouse for combat, its actually an ideal hack and slash combat system for any PC . I hated it at first, but Adex is right, it really grows on you

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 21, 2004, 2:50 am

Where the fark is that old lady's house in Orin's Farm area where you are supposed to buy potions, swampweed, ect off of?

Menelaos · Post by **Menelaos** » July 21, 2004, 2:54 am

Gotthe game last week, installed it and executed...saw that the graphics were on par with a game from the year 2000, and uninstalled it about 5 minutes afterwards

Call me shallow...but I didn't spend 500 bucks on an X800XT for nothing.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 21, 2004, 3:00 pm

shallow

Avestan · Post by **Avestan** » July 21, 2004, 4:05 pm

Akaran_D wrote:Where the fark is that old lady's house in Orin's Farm area where you are supposed to buy potions, swampweed, ect off of?

It is a cave built into the wall. If you are facing the landowner follow the wall to the left and you will get to it.

I am assuming you are looking for the witch?

Also, she gave me a questlet to get a block troll extract thingie. . .where are black trolls?

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » July 21, 2004, 5:03 pm

Yeah, I found her this morning.
Spoilers on the troll inc.

[Show]: The Troll is in the upper right section of the map. There's a big lake up there, and a monster illustrated on the upper left of it. That's him. When he dies, you also get his Hide - take it to a mexican sounding bloke at Onar's Farm for 500gp and 3 potions.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 22, 2004, 9:25 am

[Show]: The best way to kill the black troll is to run around back and shash him, as he turns slowly keep behind him and you can take him out at almost any lvl with that tactic, you also get a nice 1k exp that helps a lot if your a lower lvl