Rome - HBO

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » November 29, 2005, 8:06 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:After watching this series I have a compelling desire to re play Total War: Rome.

Just hold out for http://www.godsandheroes.com/index.html

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » November 29, 2005, 9:21 pm

Fantastic series; thanks for pointing it out, Winnow!

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 30, 2005, 10:30 am

Boogahz wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote:After watching this series I have a compelling desire to re play Total War: Rome.
Just hold out for http://www.godsandheroes.com/index.html

Oooooooo

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » November 30, 2005, 12:59 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote:After watching this series I have a compelling desire to re play Total War: Rome.
Just hold out for http://www.godsandheroes.com/index.html
Oooooooo

hehe, I ran across that one from a beta site I frequent. Sounds good so far

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 30, 2005, 6:35 pm

No new news on that site since March of 2005? I am thinking it may be vapor ware.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » December 9, 2005, 2:03 am

Despite the lack of battle scenes, thi is pretty damn good drama. I am on episode 8.

I like how Caesar chastens the brat king of Egypt.

Kwonryu DragonFist · December 27, 2006, 6:19 pm

Liked the series OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS!

Lookin forward to Season 2 in January when Octavianus and Mark Anthony will deal will all the traitors!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » January 7, 2007, 2:38 am

Season 2 Ep 1 is out!

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 7, 2007, 2:42 am

They hit HBO on demand on monday if im not mistaken.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 7, 2007, 2:52 am

Finally! It's going to be Rome and HEROES to kick off the new year for me.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 15, 2007, 3:01 am

Season 2, Episode 1 rocked my socks off.

Holy shit what a good show. A lot of politics to cover in season two's opener but there was still action.

Can't miss TV.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 15, 2007, 7:23 pm

Great beginning to the season. The last couple of scenes were especially awesome.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » January 16, 2007, 12:23 am

Yeah. The second season premiere was great. It seems like years since the first season, but I love that this season continues literally within minutes of happenings in the finale of the first season.

Can't wait to see how things unfold w/ Octavian and Antony at the reigns. I hope Servilia burns.

Loved the last 'exchange' between Antony and Quintus Pompey...

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 16, 2007, 12:50 am

what a great show. should be really interesting to see verenus switch roles and become head of the aventine underworld.

pullo as always owns.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 16, 2007, 12:50 am

Keverian FireCry wrote:Yeah. The second season premiere was great. It seems like years since the first season, but I love that this season continues literally within minutes of happenings in the finale of the first season.

Can't wait to see how things unfold w/ Octavian and Antony at the reigns. I hope Servilia burns.

Loved the last 'exchange' between Antony and Quintus Pompey...

Unless history changes, we know Gaius Octavian (Augustus) and Antony aren't going to stay allied for long.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 16, 2007, 1:06 am

[Show]: the previews shows antony going to egypt next week. so it will be sooner than we all think!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » January 16, 2007, 1:33 pm

Titus Pullo is like Marvels Destroyer, destroying everything in his path!

Whirlwind of Destruction!

Good first EP!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » January 17, 2007, 6:29 pm

Winnow - do these ever make it to Newsgroups? If so, which? I don't get HBO until next month.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 17, 2007, 6:38 pm

A quick search of the newsgroups turned up Rome Season 2 Episode 1 on alt.binaries.multimedia posted 2.4 days ago.

Here's a sample and a hint at the file name to search for:

rome.201.hdtv.xvid - sample video size ~6.37mb

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » January 18, 2007, 2:50 pm

wuwu - thx Winnow.

I got ep 1 off a torrent... along with eleventy-billion hits on PG2 from p2p abuser monitors. I'll look to the newsgroups until I have it live.

I do love how they show trained swordsmen cutting thier way through hordes of lesser men (Pullo and Vorenus in thier raid on the underboss, even without the details - in fact it was better as presented with the shieks and killing as an irritating background noise for Erastes Fulmen). The gun really was the great equalizer until the nuke came along.

To quote Octavian from s1 "The graveyards are full of midling swordsmen. Better to not be one at all." (or something to that effect)

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 18, 2007, 3:57 pm

Winnow wrote:A quick search of the newsgroups turned up Rome Season 2 Episode 1 on alt.binaries.multimedia posted 2.4 days ago.

Here's a sample and a hint at the file name to search for:

rome.201.hdtv.xvid - sample video size ~6.37mb

On a related note, for those interested in catching up on any missed episodes, DVD rips of season 1 were posted (with par2 files) in a.b.multimedia on 16 Jan. I'm not sure of their quality or completeness but thought I'd mention it. Search for "Rome.S01.DVDRip.XviD" if interested.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 22, 2007, 4:25 pm

Season 2, Episode 2 was a solid show but:

[Show]: What's with the scene in front of Atia's house where the kid is getting beat up. One of Atia's guard's breaks it up and then the kid offers to do anything for work and says he'll suck his cock.

This didn't seem to have anything to do with the rest of the episode. Maybe it was a nod to Deadwood and they wanted to add a few more bad words to the dialog.

I suppose it could have been used to show general chaos in the streets but it seemed out of place.

Kilrain · Post by **Kilrain** » January 25, 2007, 2:17 am

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing Winnow. So far this has been a very well written show, so it may yet be explained.

Octavian goes north to meet his friend... what's his name? I'm drawing a blank... Agilla? Argila? Damn I should know this

anyhow, if it follows what we know from history, that character should be a damn good one as well. He's young but tough who defends Octavian throughout his rise to power. I hope he's cast well.

Anyone know what actor is going to play him?

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 25, 2007, 2:32 am

Allen Leech is playing Agrippa, but according to IMDB, he only shows up in 1 episode. Also of note, apparently Octavian/Augustus is going to be played by someone different beginning with episode 4 this season. Actor changes mid-season are not good for continuity, but I guess they didn't have much choice in the matter.

[Show]: I assume that the kid in the street that Winnow mentioned will be involved in a future episode, and they were just setting up some subplot, but the whole bit was a bit of a non sequitur as it was presented.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 25, 2007, 2:37 am

I hope that they change Augustus for the sake of age. If not, then this show will lose major interest from me.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 25, 2007, 2:54 am

I think it's a combination of age, which would have been difficult to work around, and some other scheduling issues. I remember reading last spring that it was very questionable whether Max Pirkis, the current Octavian, would even be available for filming last summer.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 25, 2007, 12:28 pm

Max Pirkis has done an excellent job playing Gaius Octavian.

It looks like Ben Whisaw will be the new Gaius Octavian.

Picture below not from Rome series:

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » January 25, 2007, 3:42 pm

Winnow wrote:
Picture below not from Rome series:

Perfurme! Haven't seen the film yet, but my wife got me interested after she translated the original German into English - and then I read her version.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 25, 2007, 4:42 pm

imdb.com says its some guy from pride and predjudice, simon woods.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 25, 2007, 6:00 pm

Zamtuk wrote:imdb.com says its some guy from pride and predjudice, simon woods.

Hmmm, I think you're right! From HBO's website:

Simon Woods ("Pride and Prejudice") joins the cast as the older Octavian, succeeding Max Pirkis, who played the younger Octavian in season one and the first part of season two. "I was a viewer in the first season, so it was exciting for me to be asked to join the show," says Woods. "I felt that because there was a gap in time between Max's portrayal and mine, I had some license in how I played him. I think Octavian is such a strange and interesting character. At first nobody took him seriously, but the funny thing is that he always takes himself very seriously."

He continues, "Octavian always has a plan going, which makes it fun to play him. You always know what he's trying to get out of any given situation, what he's trying to get out of other people. Octavian lacks many of the everyday pleasantries - he doesn't apologize, and he doesn't thank people. That doesn't mean he never feels gratitude, and that doesn't mean he never feels like apologizing, but he never expresses those feelings. He's incredibly guarded."

Why? "There's something about his upbringing that made him into quite a strange man," says Woods. "Just look at his relationships with his mother and his sister - they're all screwed up! As a result, he's had a kind of emotional shut-down, since his experiences have been so disastrous."

On the other hand, adds Woods, "I think Octavian is very good at listening to other people, which is I think is one of the things that's important in a great leader. It's a kind of humility, a word not normally associated with him."

Kilrain · Post by **Kilrain** » January 25, 2007, 8:48 pm

Agrippa! That's it! I couldn't remember that to save my life... thanks.

Kilrain · Post by **Kilrain** » January 28, 2007, 11:59 pm

[Show]: What's with the scene in front of Atia's house where the kid is getting beat up. One of Atia's guard's breaks it up and then the kid offers to do anything for work and says he'll suck his cock.

Well, now we know... and on another note...

Baboons!!

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » February 5, 2007, 5:12 pm

[Show]: Servillia was getting wtfpwnd. This should make things really interesting between her & Atia in the remaining episodes. It will also be interesting to see how Timon continues to develop.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 5, 2007, 5:28 pm

Xatrei wrote:
[Show]
Servillia was getting wtfpwnd. This should make things really interesting between her & Atia in the remaining episodes. It will also be interesting to see how Timon continues to develop.

-yeah, Servillia has been worked over twice now by Atia's henchmen. All that's left for her to cap things of is to be fucked by Baboons.

-The "boy who would suck cock" story has run its course!

-The new actor that plays Octavian seems OK although I preferred the original actor.

-Lucius Vorenus' children have had a rough life!

Rome is still one of, if not the best show on TV. Must savor the few episodes left in this final season!

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » February 5, 2007, 5:33 pm

Winnow wrote:Rome is still one of, if not the best show on TV. Must savor the few episodes left in this final season!

Agreed. As I've been watching the last couple of episodes, I find myself getting angry at HBO for canceling this incredible show. I'm really going to miss it when it's gone.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » February 6, 2007, 2:51 pm

[Show]: I'm curious how they're going to keep Vorenus in the story since what he should do is plop his ass down and fix his relationship with his kids (and his wife's heh). I was expecting they'd be found dead and that he'd be thrown into another rage.

The new Octavian, hrm, ok so far. Max Pirkis kicked ass, he'll be tough to follow.

Still looking forward to Octavian and Antony joining up to fight off Brutus/Longinus et el. I'm not surprised that Lepidus isn't cast, since they completely ignored him and his role in the first season, but it makes me wonder what they'll call the second triumvirate lol.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 13, 2007, 8:05 am

I would just like to reiterate that Rome is the best currently running show on TV.

[Show]: Brutus is going to get his ass kicked next episode!

Kwonryu DragonFist · February 13, 2007, 10:29 am

Season 2 rocks

Much better than Season 1, but that's primarily due to Season 1 being so predictable with the fate of Caesar,Cleopatra,Brutus et al.

While Season 1 may have had a bit slower pace, Season 2 is much more action-packed!

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » February 13, 2007, 12:43 pm

I guess the Lepidus question has been answered!

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » February 13, 2007, 12:52 pm

I wish there were a more cost effective way to make this show, because this being it, really blows.

Next episode looks omfg good, so here's to a long week ahead!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » February 14, 2007, 4:54 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:I guess the Lepidus question has been answered!

lol, yep - they basically had Marc Antony fill his role during the first part (where Lepidus oversaw Rome for Ceasar), and added him as a bit player for the coming battle.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 19, 2007, 7:50 am

Winnow wrote:
[Show]
Brutus is going to get his ass kicked next episode!

I called it!

That was one of the best episodes yet last night. I'm not liking the previews for next week though. Titus better not be unfaithful!

Edit:

I enjoy how Titus Pullo and Lucious Verenus are involved in everything that happens. I'm not looking for accuracy in their roles. It's interesting how Verenus doesn't kill his wife's son and it's the son that ends up running out in front of the carrier with the urgent message bound for Brutus.

I also can't help but like Mark Antony's character as played in the series. He had two great lines this last episode. The one was about having no idea what was going on in the battle and the other when he decided to add Atia's suggested name to the killing list.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » February 19, 2007, 11:50 am

Rome is an amazing show. The acting and fleshing out of the characters is wonderful - you feel a real emotional attachement (whether it be disdain, compassion, pity, like, etc.) to them.

I had a class in college called The Roman Empire. The prof was excellent and he made the class very interesting. I have been somewhat disappointed in the fact that I know the history behind what we are watching on the show - kind of like fast forwarding to the ending of a movie or book then going back and reading the meat.

[Show]: Here are some things that I remembered and had to go back and refresh myself on after watching last night's episode -

1. Cassius and Brutus - in reality they both committed suicide after the defeat of their army. I was seriously expecting Brutus to walk up to those legions and thrust the dagger into his abdomen - but I guess a little liberty by the writers was ok.

2. I remember reading that Cicero was beheaded and his hands cut off and nailed to the doors - last night they showed him being killed by having the gladius thrust into his torso from above. Rereading I learned that Antony's wife supposedly was given Cicero's head as a gift to which she cut out his tongue and repeatedly stabbed it to silence him once and for all - those crazy Roman broads...

I know where they are going with Timon and his brother in Judea - I think that will be an interesting side story - I just wonder how far this series will go - and I hope they are not prematurely fleshing out the history so that they will have to kill Rome in three seasons ala Deadwood style.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » February 19, 2007, 1:24 pm

Rome is done after this season.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » February 19, 2007, 4:51 pm

Unfortunately, Rome as a series is finished after this season. It would be a shame to have the massive investment in sets and costumes go to waste now, though. Maybe we'll be lucky and there might be a few Rome-based movies or mini series produced - probably wishful thinking, but I can have hope heh. As I've said before, I'm really going to miss this show when it's gone.

[Show]: I was a little disappointed that they portrayed Philippi as one massive, decisive battle, rather than series of land and sea battles that it actually was, but I understand the constraints that being one part of an 11 episode series imposes. Still, I think they should have presented it in a way that Octavian got bloodied and/or embarrassed a bit more. I'm OK with how they handled Brutus' death, as it made his end a bit more poetic echoing Caesar's end. Hopefully they'll find his body in the show so that Anthony can pay it respect, and return the ashes to Servilia - I'd hate to see them abandon that bit of history.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » February 19, 2007, 5:09 pm

[Show]: I'm with you in wishing that the battle was a little more fleshed out, but at least we got to SEE battle this time unlike last season where they just alluded to it. When Pullo was setting out from the picnic to kill Cicero and they made a big deal about him being careful etc etc, I was afraid they were going to kill him somehow. I should have had more faith in him!

It really is a shame that it's done after this season.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » March 5, 2007, 6:42 pm

Now that... is an exit.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 5, 2007, 6:55 pm

"I know you're unhappy with all of this...but it is our wedding night"

Paraphrased. I can't remember his exact words!

[Show]: I see bad things coming next episode with that birth control concoction the slave has. I'm guessing Titus Pullo's wife will be drinking that and the baby dies.

Last night's episode was good as always but it was kind of an in between episode for the most part and the action should pick up again next week.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » March 12, 2007, 1:26 am

Just watched the latest episode, and all I can say is "DAMN!"

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 12, 2007, 8:02 pm

Good episode. I liked Tutus Pullo's wife but having her killed by the slave woman is sort of Karma for Pullo killing his wife's lover earlier I suppose.

Now it seems they're trying to make the slave girl into some sort of warrior women from what we saw in that last battle seen. She was out there hacking and stabbing away with all the men.

Octavian is becoming pretty harsh as expected.

A lot of great acting in this episode. I would have liked to have seen Vorenus kill his daughter after finding out what was going on. (after getting the guys name out of her first).

Shame there won't be a season three now that Tiberius is in the story but not yet seen.