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[The_Furball]

Wtf, avatar censorship?? What's next, gonna have us submit our picture IDs to make sure we're over 13?

If you can get in trouble at work for those, well, duh, TURN THEM OFF IN YOUR F'N BROWSER! Ya know, the option where you can set your explorer not to display any images at all. That's what I've been doing for years now when reading boards in 'public' places. It makes the page load faster, and eliminates any possible offensive content.

Avatar censorship is just ghay. Ghay, ghay ghay I'm all up for freedom of expressing yourself. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Cid's woman, it's not like she's naked.

[Pahreyia]

You can send me 'teh pictures' anytime kittah. You may not get them back though.

[Zamtuk]

can i still say fuck?

umm, WHY DOES IT SAY IGN.COM as our header, i hope thats a joke

if so, rofl.

[Phugg_Innay]

I dont mind the "so called censorship". To me its NOT that at all. I mainly look at the board from home. I will peek in every now and then from work. The issue with my work though is, I work in people houses on THEIR pc's. I have actually introduced a few EQ players from the bay area to the board , and they enjoy it for the most part.
The issue isnt with "censorship". Its being just a tad tactfull in an enviroment that isnt nearly as free as the European is. I have No probs with the new rule enforcement.

PS Kwons Game sig in the NWS = The Bomb , got 23/24 on first try , and was laughing my ass off the whole time

[Shashonna]

I didnt think Cid's was all that bad. I only didnt like the animated ones of the girls frisking themselves

[vn_Tanc]

Avatar censorship is just ghay. Ghay, ghay ghay

Well you should know, "Fluff'Burn".

[The_Furball]

Bah, go away, it's a GM given last name

[Winnow]

[Dregor Thule]

Wtf, avatar censorship?? What's next, gonna have us submit our picture IDs to make sure we're over 13?

If you can get in trouble at work for those, well, duh, TURN THEM OFF IN YOUR F'N BROWSER! Ya know, the option where you can set your explorer not to display any images at all. That's what I've been doing for years now when reading boards in 'public' places. It makes the page load faster, and eliminates any possible offensive content.

Avatar censorship is just ghay. Ghay, ghay ghay I'm all up for freedom of expressing yourself. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Cid's woman, it's not like she's naked.

If you'd actually READ the thread, you'd know turning them off isn't always an option.

[Phugg_Innay]

LMFAO @ Winniw , thanks , now I have to clean the coffee off my desk and monitor

[The_Furball]

Wtf, avatar censorship?? What's next, gonna have us submit our picture IDs to make sure we're over 13?

If you can get in trouble at work for those, well, duh, TURN THEM OFF IN YOUR F'N BROWSER! Ya know, the option where you can set your explorer not to display any images at all. That's what I've been doing for years now when reading boards in 'public' places. It makes the page load faster, and eliminates any possible offensive content.

Avatar censorship is just ghay. Ghay, ghay ghay I'm all up for freedom of expressing yourself. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Cid's woman, it's not like she's naked.

If you'd actually READ the thread, you'd know turning them off isn't always an option.

What, you're telling me that your Internet Explorer is somehow different then mine? Tools --> Internet Options --> Advanced --> Uncheck "Show Images" under Multimedia.

Edit: for the folks using Netscape instead of accursed Microsoft products: Edit --> Preferences --> Privacy & Security --> Images --> check "Do not load any images". Changing this preference takes about 10 seconds if even that.

[Dregor Thule]

I'm telling you, you nitwit, that some people don't have access to change the settings.

[Fairweather Pure]

What, you're telling me that your Internet Explorer is somehow different then mine?

Tell me you're not really this fucking stupid...

[The_Furball]

All I'm saying is that there are other ways to 'fix' the situation on the user end, instead of asking a bunch of people to change their avatars because you might get fired for possible 'porn' at work.

And if you're really stuck in the crappy ass situation where you can't even change preferences in your browser (tbh, I've worked for many companies, did desktop support as well, and haven't seen that level of restriction on any of the machines, but obviously what do I know), then don't read the boards at work, period. It's like asking to change the stop light system everywhere because .1% of the population is color blind (just an example).

[Kelshara]

but obviously what do I know

Obviously, not much.

[Vetiria]

And if you're really stuck in the crappy ass situation where you can't even change preferences in your browser (tbh, I've worked for many companies, did desktop support as well, and haven't seen that level of restriction on any of the machines, but obviously what do I know), then don't read the boards at work, period. It's like asking to change the stop light system everywhere because .1% of the population is color blind (just an example).

Maybe you should learn the population of the board a little bit better before saying something like this. Half the board's posters post from work.

[The_Furball]

Yep, I know nothing, therefore I'm going to stfu and let you continue to bitch, whine and cry about NWS content. Maybe someone will feel bad for you at work and change your admin right on your machine! Not my problem anyway, and if it was my f'n problem, I wouldn't make it everybody elses issue.

Oh while we at it, why don't we change the language requirement to PG13 and filter bad words out. Go read some catholic message boards instead, or do some work, you won't get fired for that.

Flame on.~

[Vetiria]

Yep, I know nothing, therefore I'm going to stfu

Thanks!

[Zaelath]

And if you're really stuck in the crappy ass situation where you can't even change preferences in your browser (tbh, I've worked for many companies, did desktop support as well, and haven't seen that level of restriction on any of the machines, but obviously what do I know), then don't read the boards at work, period. It's like asking to change the stop light system everywhere because .1% of the population is color blind (just an example).

Maybe you should learn the population of the board a little bit better before saying something like this. Half the board's posters post from work.

Comprehension > Vetria

[Vetiria]

How so? She wants half the boards posters to just stop reading the board. I comprehended what she said just fine.

[Shaerra]

My original avatar said "Fuck You Crackers". I had one person ask me to remove it because he browsed from school and didn't want to get in trouble. I removed it immediately and never said anything except "I'm sorry".

Some of you are just whining because you're selfish asshats...but Karae is by far the best!

HOLY SHIT ON A FUCKING WHEAT CRACKER WTF DO U MEAN i CANT FUCKING HAVE A 13MB AVATAR OF PAMELA ANDERSON BLOWING TOMMY LEE WTF IS THIS AUSCHWITZ U FUCKING NAZI CUMBAG ASSHOLES I HATE EVERY LAST ONE OF U AND I HOPE YOU ALL DIE OF ORAL HERPES OR PINK EYE OR SOMETHING BECAUSE U OPPRESSED ME AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE IBM ERRR IGGY OR WHOEVER DID THAT BEFORE AND NOW YOU THINK YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO WELL I'M NOT GETTING RID OF MY AVATAR YOU CAN IF YOU WANT NAZI BABY KILLERS

[Winnow]

And if you're really stuck in the crappy ass situation where you can't even change preferences in your browser (tbh, I've worked for many companies, did desktop support as well, and haven't seen that level of restriction on any of the machines, but obviously what do I know), then don't read the boards at work, period.

- this board would be as lame as you if the majority of its members couldn't or didn't read and post here from work. Make that a mental post-it and remember it.

- the issue was as much the size of the avatars as the questionable material. A healthy debate about ways to block avatars and mega sigs took place before this decision and it was determined that with the present software for VV and IT restrictions from many companies on access rights, that there wasn't an easy way to block them at this time. It was also plain to see that we have dolts on this board that can't adhere to common sense with regard to avatars and .sigs.

- after reading your responses, I now understand how many of the huge protests organized in WashingtonD.C. are able to amass so many bodies...jumping in without having a clue about the whole picture.

[Zaelath]

How so? She wants half the boards posters to just stop reading the board. I comprehended what she said just fine.

Let me explain.

There is the super set of "VV posters"

of this there is a subset of "VV posters from work"

of this there is another subset "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder"

of this there is a further subset of "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder who can't change their browser preferences"

This final subset, that Kirruu refers to, is very small. You're referring to the second subset which is quite large.

Do we have an understanding yet?

[Sylvus]

- this board would be as lame as you if the majority of its members couldn't or didn't read and post here from work. Make that a mental post-it and remember it.

In fact, 95% of the server, database, and phpBB setup was done while the admins were at work. Without being able to visit from work, that IGN banner up top would actually be real. =/

[vn_Tanc]

Do we have an understanding yet?

Venn diagram prs!

[Zaelath]

Do we have an understanding yet?

Venn diagram prs!

LOL, get stuffed Tanc =)

[Vetiria]

How so? She wants half the boards posters to just stop reading the board. I comprehended what she said just fine.

Let me explain.

There is the super set of "VV posters"

of this there is a subset of "VV posters from work"

of this there is another subset "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder"

of this there is a further subset of "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder who can't change their browser preferences"

This final subset, that Kirruu refers to, is very small. You're referring to the second subset which is quite large.

Do we have an understanding yet?

I'm not Krimson and am not going to argue semantics with you. It doesn't matter which "subset" she's referring to. People need to be respectful of other posters in this situation, which is the point I and many others are trying to make.

[Ravvenn]

I'm with Cid on this one. Happy fucking FUCKSHITBITCHASS indeed, you bunch of pissante wankers. And you can quote me on that.
Grrrr

Varia

No *hugs*
Look what you've done!

[VariaVespasa]

I'm with Cid on this one. Happy fucking FUCKSHITBITCHASS indeed, you bunch of pissante wankers. And you can quote me on that.
Grrrr

Varia

That's not the frighteningly too effeminate male roleplayer we all fear and talk about behind their back!

Just so long as I'm feared, motherfucker!

*Hugs*
Varia

[Zaelath]

Krimson couldn't argue semantics with me if he had a brains trust to help him.

I understand your stance, but you're choosing to pretend that the risque avatars affect a large percentage of the posters here. I call bullshit, and I also do most of my posting from work

Your point is obscured by trying to use fallacious logic however.

[Shaerra]

Your point is obscured by trying to use fallacious logic however.

No it isn't... Must you use your default "I'm pwning j00" statements in every debate, regardless of topic? The point isn't obscured in the slightest, we're all bright enough to follow along...

[Zaelath]

Your point is obscured by trying to use fallacious logic however.

No it isn't... Must you use your default "I'm pwning j00" statements in every debate, regardless of topic? The point isn't obscured in the slightest, we're all bright enough to follow along...

Well, pardon me for trying to raise the level of debate. You think it's okay for someone to make their argument based on a misinterpretation of someone's statement? Whatever floats your boat.

[The_Furball]

How so? She wants half the boards posters to just stop reading the board. I comprehended what she said just fine.

Let me explain.

There is the super set of "VV posters"

of this there is a subset of "VV posters from work"

of this there is another subset "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder"

of this there is a further subset of "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder who can't change their browser preferences"

This final subset, that Kirruu refers to, is very small. You're referring to the second subset which is quite large.

Do we have an understanding yet?

I'm not Krimson and am not going to argue semantics with you. It doesn't matter which "subset" she's referring to. People need to be respectful of other posters in this situation, which is the point I and many others are trying to make.

Ok, for all of you that missed the point, somehow. (thanks Z for straightening that out).

I never said I want people to stop posting from work. I post from work. I have nothing against it. I refered to the very small % of VV population that Z mentioned above. If you want to bend the board rules for that very small % of folks - now thats far more disrespectful for everyone else that wants the diversity and freedom on the boards then the other way around.

And please don't talk about respect on VV, offensive material pours left and right (especially the language), and everyone jumps everyone like a frigging love starved monkey. And if you want to talk about respect, learn it yourself first (noting your responses to me above). You don't see me jumping people by name or calling you a retard because you can't even read what I said (or rather understand).

That said, I'm done with this thread.

[Shaerra]

Your point is obscured by trying to use fallacious logic however.

No it isn't... Must you use your default "I'm pwning j00" statements in every debate, regardless of topic? The point isn't obscured in the slightest, we're all bright enough to follow along...

You think it's okay for someone to make their argument based on a misinterpretation of someone's statement?

Pot, kettle, black.

What I said is that the point was not obscured.

[Vetiria]

People need to be respectful of other posters in this situation

There is no bending of rules for a small number of people. This rule has been around since this board was created; it's the users with the NWS avatars breaking one of the very few rules the board has. The only way it was enforced before was if Xou had enough PM complaints from people, he would then ask that person to change his/her avatar. It's gone rampant the past few weeks, which is what brought this on.

BTW, you should probably change the tone in which you read my posts. I wasn't being disrespecful to you.

[cid]

Xou had heard enough complaints about Cid's avatar that he asked him if he'd change it.

First,

I am going to call bullshit here. When he posted the new policy on avatars. I PM'ed him to ask if mine way still ok, here is his answer:

Unfortunately, no. =( Gotta be even handed. =\

I have stated numerous times in posts that if my avatar offended anyone, that they could PM me and I would remove it. One person PM'ed me and I did change it, but two days later they PM'ed me again saying to change it back, that it was not that big of a deal. So I did.

The main problem with my avatar is that people would try and top it, and then they would go over the NWS guidelines. So because of them, we are all fucked.

So I do not agree with Xouqoa's decision, but I do respect it and will comply with it. I just do not want the new policy to be pointed at me, as to say the reason we can't have avatars is because of Cid. That’s bullshit.

[Shaerra]

There is no bending of rules for a small number of people.

Yes there is...but only every hour or so.

I just do not want the new policy to be pointed at me, as to say the reason we can't have avatars is because of Cid. That’s bullshit.

We can't have avatars at all now?

(Some people are REALLY not getting it)

[masteen]

How so? She wants half the boards posters to just stop reading the board. I comprehended what she said just fine.

Let me explain.

There is the super set of "VV posters"

of this there is a subset of "VV posters from work"

of this there is another subset "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder"

of this there is a further subset of "VV posters from work that Cid's avatar would cause a problem if seen over their shoulder who can't change their browser preferences"

This final subset, that Kirruu refers to, is very small. You're referring to the second subset which is quite large.

Do we have an understanding yet?

I'm not Krimson and am not going to argue semantics with you. It doesn't matter which "subset" she's referring to. People need to be respectful of other posters in this situation, which is the point I and many others are trying to make.

Ok, for all of you that missed the point, somehow. (thanks Z for straightening that out).

I never said I want people to stop posting from work. I post from work. I have nothing against it. I refered to the very small % of VV population that Z mentioned above. If you want to bend the board rules for that very small % of folks - now thats far more disrespectful for everyone else that wants the diversity and freedom on the boards then the other way around.

And please don't talk about respect on VV, offensive material pours left and right (especially the language), and everyone jumps everyone like a frigging love starved monkey. And if you want to talk about respect, learn it yourself first (noting your responses to me above). You don't see me jumping people by name or calling you a retard because you can't even read what I said (or rather understand).

That said, I'm done with this thread.

You're kinda stupid, aren't you?

[Zaelath]

Masteen gets teh big W for longest quote with shortest reply =)

[Shaerra]

You're kinda stupid, aren't you?

Either that, or he/she/it truly believes that the word fuck in 8 pt font catches the attention of someone walking by just as well as a porno avatar.

[Ennia]

Can't we all just get along? A little consideration goes a long way.

[Aslanna]

You're kinda stupid, aren't you?

"Kinda"? I think you're being a little too nice there.

[Krimson Klaw]

What, you are cool now because you will argue semantics? You realize how fuckin stupid you look, right?

[Cartalas]

Cid your avatar has been made WS.

[Siji]

What unbelievable bullshit.

Xou, Pyrella, I like you both, but you fucking blew it on this one.

To those of you pushing for avatar censorship: Fuck you. Fuck every single one of you. If you are afraid you'll get in trouble for people's avatars, don't read the fucking thing from work. Not like your office wants you reading a fucking EQ message board while you're suppoed to be working anyway.

In closing, fuck censorship.

Ditto & Tritto.

[Zaelath]

What, you are cool now because you will argue semantics? You realize how fuckin stupid you look, right?

No, because I can. You however can do nothing but rant and call people names and call it an argument.

I'm sure your dog thinks you're a fool too, it's a matter of perspective.

[Krimson Klaw]

Did I drag you into this flamewar thread? No, you drug me into it, so take your sanctimonious paragraph and shove it up your ass. Should fit, you triple fisting porn monkey.

[Zaelath]

Did I drag you into this flamewar thread? No, you drug me into it, so take your sanctimonious paragraph and shove it up your ass. Should fit, you triple fisting porn monkey.

Actually, Vetria did =)

[Krimson Klaw]

As did you, but I don't fucking like you so......go cry or something about how it's not fair.

[Zaelath]

As did you, but I don't fucking like you so......go cry or something about how it's not fair.

Woof, woof woof woof woof, woof woof. Woof =)