Fuck Women

[Boogahz]

Ever see those Lifetime movies about women who get beaten and keep going back? That's you.

Err. Kay. She actually broke up with Joe because he hit her... pretty hard. He's a nutcase, really.

What I meant is that you are in that state of mind where you feel something is wrong, but you keep getting deeper into it. What is wrong is your lack of trust, but you won't address that issue. First tip. Delete her fuckin ex's LJ links from everything you own. Drop that shit. There's absolutely no fucking reason you should be reading it if you trust her. Reading it will only keep that shadow of distrust going.

[noel]

What I meant is that you are in that state of mind where you feel something is wrong, but you keep getting deeper into it. What is wrong is your lack of trust, but you won't address that issue. First tip. Delete her fuckin ex's LJ links from everything you own. Drop that shit. There's absolutely no fucking reason you should be reading it if you trust her. Reading it will only keep that shadow of distrust going.

Seconded.

[Seebs]

Your profile list you as 19.

Please walk about the orchard and sample more of the fruit. There are some exotic flavors out there, some even won;t break you or your buddies out into rashes.

[Aslanna]

She could be a bigger germ farm than that monkey in Outbreak.

[noel]

If you're not going to walk about the orchard for yourself...

DO IT FOR THOSE WHO'VE PASSED ON TO THE ummm GRAY HAVENS!!!

[Canelek]

Sounds like Scabies.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites ... cabies.htm

What is scabies?
Scabies is an infestation of the skin with the microscopic mite Sarcoptes scabei. Infestation is common, found worldwide, and affects people of all races and social classes. Scabies spreads rapidly under crowded conditions where there is frequent skin-to-skin contact between people, such as in hospitals, institutions, child-care facilities, and nursing homes.

What are the signs and symptoms of scabies infestation?
Pimple-like irritations, burrows or rash of the skin, especially the webbing between the fingers; the skin folds on the wrist, elbow, or knee; the penis, the breast, or shoulder blades.
Intense itching, especially at night and over most of the body.
Sores on the body caused by scratching. These sores can sometimes become infected with bacteria.
How did I get scabies?
By direct, prolonged, skin-to-skin contact with a person already infested with scabies. Contact must be prolonged (a quick handshake or hug will usually not spread infestation). Infestation is easily spread to sexual partners and household members. Infestation may also occur by sharing clothing, towels, and bedding.

That aside, talk to her and try not to be a dick about it. If she retarded enough to hang out with someone that pulled a kinfe on you, than she is obviously not worth the effort. Good luck with them critters!

[redeemed]

I read most of the first page and some of this one, and I'm sure by now you don't need any more advice.. but I'm a female so here I am posting~
don't jump to conclusions, if you have been with this chick for a while and you trust her then focus on the good and let the bad shit ride.. it really comes down to how you feel about her and how secure you are in the relationship -- however, like the guys are tellin you, there are plenty of others out there who may not have psycho ex's.
anyway, just try to get perspective and weigh what's important to you

[Seebs]

Lol Canalek ... My Raptor Pet in WOW is named Scabies ... too funny.

[Leonaerd]

What I meant is that you are in that state of mind where you feel something is wrong, but you keep getting deeper into it. What is wrong is your lack of trust, but you won't address that issue. First tip. Delete her fuckin ex's LJ links from everything you own. Drop that shit. There's absolutely no fucking reason you should be reading it if you trust her. Reading it will only keep that shadow of distrust going.

Good idea... no more reading LJs. It's all mental so I should limit every trust handicap that I can.

I have trust issues resulting from two ex-girlfriends cheating on me, as well as the scenario surrounding my dad's death last March, so it's always been a hurdle of mine. I told Jane at the offset of our relationship that, though I try to be rational at most times, trust is not one of my strong points. She's been remarkably acceptant of my shortcomings because she's had similar problems of her own.

Being able to discuss my infrequent bouts of illogical assumptions (such as this instance) with her level-headedly is something I definitely did not find in anybody else I've dated, which is one of many reasons that I am not willing to simply dump her over what has transpired. Some of you are saying that because I even have the mere thought of her being unfaithful, I should hit the road. It's completely my own preconceived idiocy, though, and I couldn't possibly break up with her for that reason.

I think too deeply into matters like these, as has been clearly indicated by the previous posts on this matter. Thinking too far into things is why I've been cheated on twice. I don't need to worry about that with Jane, because she does the same thing, so again, she can relate. When two people have the same fault, there is a kinky sort of mutual understanding that makes it all nullify nicely.

What I'm getting at is that I'm glad you guys were able to help me with this. I know for certain that I would have gone off the deep end if I hadn't brought it up here. My irrational insecurity got me into this mess, and handling it alone would have only made it worse.

[noel]

As long as you watched the video and laughed.

[Truant]

just remember. if she can love you when you sleep in bathtubs, you're set for life.

wait, did i say that out lou

[Xouqoa]

Sounds like someone was fucking yours on the side. If you live by the rule
"You're just keeping it warm for the next guy." you will live stress free!

QFT

[Xouqoa]

Sounds like someone was fucking yours on the side. If you live by the rule
"You're just keeping it warm for the next guy." you will live stress free!

QFT

[Xouqoa]

Sounds like someone was fucking yours on the side. If you live by the rule
"You're just keeping it warm for the next guy." you will live stress free!

QFT

[Leonaerd]

As long as you watched the video and laughed. :P

I did and it was hilarious. =P I'd've commented earlier, but a certain website went FUBAR.

[podarok]

VV as psychologist? Weird...

Also, as your brother, I am available for advice. I even know what you look like IRL!

[Clatis]

drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrama

[podarok]

F!

[Kwonryu DragonFist]

VV as psychologist? Weird...

Also, as your brother, I am available for advice. I even know what you look like IRL!

Well, we do have older and mature people here on teh VV, and as earlier mentioned, people here are not biased so he could get some cup of teh real harsh truth without the sugarcoating!

With that said Leo, i think your gf spends too much time with the ex, i sure wouldn't allow that shit!

If yer the jealous type, you'd go crazy and think what-if.

Play tennis with her instead of lettin her play tennis with doofus mcgee!

If she still spends time with the ex, i'd look for a new bird Leo!

That you reading her ex's blog sounds like the epitome of maniacal behavior! She is driving you crazy with this!

Be like Conan my friend! The only man important in her life should be YOU!

I don't wanna see her play tennis with teh other feller anymore!

Make her play tennis with you!

Do It! Do It!

Best of luck though Leo!

And remember, when all things fail, the solution is at VV.

[Truant]

drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrama

the real question is why you are advertising that you use your milkshake to bring boys to your yard.

[TheDarkreigns]

[quote="Leonaerd"]Seriously.


[i]Goddamn[/i] it.[/quote]

You have no idea....

[Clatis]

drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrama

the real question is why you are advertising that you use your milkshake to bring boys to your yard.

you caught me, i actually really was, i haven't read anything in this thread, i just wanted u to see me sweet ass new avatar

[Leonaerd]

How do you make a grilled cheese sandwich anyway?

happy you asked. Aside from Stragi's unintelligible ramblings in the first post i will now break it down to you:

supplies:
2 slices of white bread
2 slices of yellow American cheese
some fucking butter
a Waffle House and a Waffle House cook.

Step 1.

1. when waitress comes and asks you "what'll you have?" you say, "I'll have a grilled cheese plate, with my hashbrowns scattered, smothered, doublecovered. sweet iced tea, and a bowl of Bert's chili".

2. Stop her as she's walking away and say, "you know what? better make that 2 grilled cheeses"

3. chat with your friend or the wild-eyed alcoholic down the bar from you.

4. eat up that butter soaked griddled goodness. Dip a few bites in your bowl of chili, and await Enlightenment


fucking swiss cheese.

ive never tried dipping grilled cheese in chili

[Bubba Grizz]

My tongue itches.


Don't let it get to you. So long as you are honest you'll be fine. Yer a kid yet and there will be many relationships. Don't get all psycho about this because she will definitly freak about that. Be ready to drop her though just incase or keep her around until you can find a replacement. Hopefully things will work out but don't stress if they don't.

[miir]

fucking butter

fucking swiss cheese

mmm, sex with food.

[Nick]

doofus mcgee!

Thanks Kwon, that made me chuckle

[Akanae]

Why is she still talking to someone that abused her? Sounds like she has mental issues and needs to cut him off. Ten years from now I see her married to him with 4 kids and a black eye.

[Kwonryu DragonFist]

doofus mcgee!

Thanks Kwon, that made me chuckle

[Wonko Wenusberg]

If it ever comes up again. Ride out the storm like a viking kitten and if you bump into any solid proof with your viking kitten long boat. Wield the hammer of kittenthunder and end it.

[Neost]

example: http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/

[Zaelath]

Dump her.

Clearly she's put her relationship (even if non-sexual) with asshole-guy above her relationship with you.

Find someone better. But get rid of the rash first. I hope its not herpes!

I'd say keep her, but make sure you're using condoms.

If that means you *start* using condoms, that will send a message If questioned, you're confident enough in her not to make a big deal out of her "hanging" with her ex, but too young to risk your life on it.

If you're not already you need a kick in the ass though.

On the whole though, most women are like soap; usually slip out of your grasp if you grip them too tightly.

[Kwonryu DragonFist]

Leo, make that other feller unneeded and redundant.

What he got that you don't?

Tennis? You go and take her to play tennis regularly!

Then she don't need teh other fella at all.

[Leonaerd]

Wow. Looking back at this two years later is both weird and educational.

She and I broke up about 7 months ago for a reason not pertaining to trust. After this issue, trust was never really a problem for us. In fact, nothing was a problem for us. Things became so unproblematic that we would argue over really stupid things that we shouldn't have. These unproblematic problems devolved into boredom, and we mutually broke up due to a lack of interest. Maybe there's some merit to freaking out over ex boyfriends?

Some of our best moments would come after resolving a huge argument. Does this go to reason that arguments are healthy, or that our relationship was flawed and the notion of having really good moments stem from really bad situations should never be one of the brighter moments in a relationship? I like to think that either way could work.

On one hand, resolving an argument is a super double plus because it's a very distinct way to grow as a couple. It's tangible proof that problems can be solved through communication. On the other hand, at times it felt like we would almost have to resort to these arguments and subsequent good times in order to reignite the spark that might have gone missing.

Two years ago, I was terrified at the notion of her fucking somebody else. Now, knowing full well that she is doing just that, I really have no concern (I think? more on that later). Perhaps it's because I'm no longer emotionally attached to her, but I like to think it's because the positive and negative experiences we had helped me grow as a person and mature accordingly.

But I didn't drag this thread back for no reason. I need some more VV advice! A lot of advice, actually.

Jane (aforementioned now-ex-girlfriend) and I are not talking. This is my doing. She's in a relationship with some new dude, and during the first stage of our post-breakup, I was pretty bummed and angry that she had moved on so fast (slippery like soap - who said that in this thread?). She and I have always had a pretty good intellectual connection... we understand each other in ways that neither of us finds with many other people. So it goes to reason that we enjoy talking to each other, or at least would if I didn't imagine some prindick balls deep in her every time we talk.

Only problem is that every time we talk (which only happens when she says hi on aol), I'm thrown into this inner, irrational rage of "why the fuck did she move on so fast?" or "how dare she talk to me after all this shit?" or "god damnit now i won't be able to look at porn for a week (jk)." These stupid thoughts prevent me from talking to her, which is what I really want to do, because of said connection.

As time goes on, I care less and less what she does with her personal life, as it should be. Yet every time she says hi, that primal urge to lop her head off is brought back into the forefront.

What I'm asking is - how do I talk to her? I want to be friends with her. I feel like I'm ready for that. Why is it still so difficult? I've long-since been over her, and I've moved on every way I know how. Should I cease contact with her? What do you guys do with exes as far as further communication goes?

I haven't been in a relationship since breaking up with her. If I was in one, I can imagine that I wouldn't mind talking to her. But this strikes me as odd, because I'm over her, so being involved with somebody new shouldn't affect how I view an ex. Should it?

[Trek]

If you get upset and angry that she moved on and cant talk to her, then you are not 'over' her and still have feelings/resentments toward her. You may never be over her and always wonder why she was able to move on so fast, perhaps you should ask her.....maybe if that is out of the way you can truely move on

[Aabidano]

I haven't been in a relationship since breaking up with her. If I was in one, I can imagine that I wouldn't mind talking to her. But this strikes me as odd, because I'm over her, so being involved with somebody new shouldn't affect how I view an ex. Should it?

Doesn't sound like you're "over her" at all to me. Move on, find someone else, come back as a friend later. Try to keep your pants on when you do and see if it goes anywhere. A long term relationship with this person doesn't seem to be something you're going to be able succeed at (IMO).

[Fairweather Pure]

What I'm asking is - how do I talk to her? I want to be friends with her. I feel like I'm ready for that. Why is it still so difficult? I've long-since been over her, and I've moved on every way I know how. Should I cease contact with her? What do you guys do with exes as far as further communication goes?

Personally, when a relationship ends, I cut her off like a gangrenous limb. Trying to remain friends is just not possible with someone with whom you've loved so deeply for so long, or someone that holds an emotional bond with you. Furthermore, it is not being fair to yourself, her and her new partner, or any relationship you may be going for in the future.

Breaking up is very very difficult. I've had my heart broken exactely twice, and both experiances were the worst in my life. Knowing how it feels, it's almost as hard to be the person breaking it off with a girl. Don't get me wrong, there's a big differenc between being dumped and being the dumpee!

Ending a relationship is like a death. You deal with it. What I have done in the past is "clean house" by putting away all pictures, erasing cell phone numbers and email addresses, and then going out with another woman as soon as I feel like I would be good company. That can take awhile. However, finding a hot, young, smart woman who thinks you're the best thing since sliced bread will shift your focus to a more positive frame of mind. Nothing cures old love like new love. Rejection was amoung the hardest things for me to accept because I feel like I'm pretty much God's gift to women. I say that tongue in cheek, but I know my stock on the dating market was about as high as you can get without being rich It's a blow to the ego that I am never fully prepared for. Anyway, it's nice to get out there and find women that will boost your self confidence again.

The rage you are feeling is totally normal. When I said goodbye to my first wife after our day in divorce court, we hugged and shared one last passionate kiss. She started crying uncontrollably all of a sudden and said it just hit her that she will never see me again. That was 10 years ago, and she hasn't. Zero contact. That has allowed both of us to move on with our lives ASAP. No need to drag things out and fill our hearts and minds with regrets and sadness. I knew in my heart that if we tried to remain in a friendly relationship, she would be like an emotional anchor dragging me down. Prior to the actual divorce, my head was in a fog whenever I was near her. Those alternating feelings of anger and dizzying love are nothing but distractions on the road of life.

In short, it's fucking over. Get over it. Don't be her neutered, cuckold ex-boyfriend. Move on and improve. Only look back as a fond memory, and don't do it too often. You should be spending your time looking forward.

[Canelek]

Yup, best not to have contact. You will end up just listening to her bitch about her new boyfriend...you will console her, she will say she appreciates it...and then you will want to see her. She will then proceed to dangle you as her listening post and not share some of that sweet sweet ass with you again. Best to listen to Fair here.

BTW, was it scabies?

[Leonaerd]

I like the gangrenous option. Fuck that ho. =P And I am over her. Swearz!

BTW, was it scabies?

Ew. It was just a rash. It went away almost immediately. STD free!

[Winnow]

"Time heals all wounds"

This is true up to a point. I still have some regrets from over 20 years ago that nag at me from time to time. For the most part though, given time, things sort of fade away.

Maybe, "Time heals most wounds" should be the quote.

[laneela]

Dear Fuck Women,

I don't think it's so much that you're not over her. You feel you are and no one will know better than you whether you are or not. It's probably more of self-esteem issue for you (your jealous-outrage 2 years ago would also point-towards that). It's not that you want her. You're probably just upset that she doesn't want you. In a sub-conscious level it makes you feel undesirable. If you really want to be friends with her, you just need to rationalize with yourself when you feel that crap going on in your head. She may not want you, but you don't want her either, you're in a better emotional place right now, blah blah blah. Sooner or later, talking to her will get easier. You'll stop seeing her as one of your failures and start seeing her as a friend.

[Siji]

3 months is nowhere near enough time invested to give a shit if it ends. If there's trouble of any kind already, cut the shit loose.

Seriously.

[Bubba Grizz]

Ok so I started reading this thread without realizing that it was 2 freaking years old. I was going to say that the ex boyfriend's comments on his blog made me laugh. In fact you'd probably laugh too if it wasn't happening to you.

Now for your current situation, sure you could cut it off and stop talking to her altogether but then again you could try and get some "end the relationship" sex. This is when you get to try all things you have read about with her. "donkey punch" etc...

But if that isn't an option, just stop talking to her altogether.

[Leonaerd]

Ok so I started reading this thread without realizing that it was 2 freaking years old. I was going to say that the ex boyfriend's comments on his blog made me laugh. In fact you'd probably laugh too if it wasn't happening to you.

Now for your current situation, sure you could cut it off and stop talking to her altogether but then again you could try and get some "end the relationship" sex. This is when you get to try all things you have read about with her. "donkey punch" etc...

But if that isn't an option, just stop talking to her altogether.

We did the end-the-relationship sex thing a while ago. We've been broken up for 7 months now and sex would just make it impossible for me to be friends with her (not like it's an option anyway).

3 months is nowhere near enough time invested to give a shit if it ends. If there's trouble of any kind already, cut the shit loose.

Seriously.

Hmm I'm not sure I understand. She and I dated for a year and 8 months. I think you pulled a Bubba and didn't realize this thread is two years old.

[Leonaerd]

Dear Fuck Women,

I don't think it's so much that you're not over her. You feel you are and no one will know better than you whether you are or not. It's probably more of self-esteem issue for you (your jealous-outrage 2 years ago would also point-towards that). It's not that you want her. You're probably just upset that she doesn't want you. In a sub-conscious level it makes you feel undesirable. If you really want to be friends with her, you just need to rationalize with yourself when you feel that crap going on in your head. She may not want you, but you don't want her either, you're in a better emotional place right now, blah blah blah. Sooner or later, talking to her will get easier. You'll stop seeing her as one of your failures and start seeing her as a friend.

Yeah, you worded that close to how I've felt about it. Fuckin skank bummin on my street cred.

[Markulas]

Things became so unproblematic that we would argue over really stupid things that we shouldn't have. These unproblematic problems devolved into boredom, and we mutually broke up due to a lack of interest.

I know how you feel. In a way relationships are like history. Once things stop being exciting (good or bad) people stop caring.

The best advice I received regarding relationships was to read about Stoic philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism). If a girl is going to cheat on you then she is not the "one". Worrying about it isn't going to change a damn thing.

Also, Leo how old were you when you first started playing eq?

[Leonaerd]

I started playing around 2000-2001 ish, so... 14 years old when I started, maybe. Why?

[Markulas]

More curious than anything. I started around that time and I was 13 or 14.

[Winnow]

I know how you feel. In a way relationships are like history. Once things stop being exciting (good or bad) people stop caring.

There's also the issue of seeing too much of a person which IMO, leads to lack of excitement. I probably won't explain this well. The ideal relationship is one where you would spend maybe two days a week with your partner. The other five would be spent with both parties doing things that interest them as an individual. I'm assuming that both parties are educated and have careers or hobbies that capture their attention. The two days/nights spent together become much more enjoyable as you look forward to them and also don't spend so much time together that you get irritated or bored with each other. I'm not talking about sex. This only works with two individuals that don't need to be dawdled over with attention.

Find someone that doesn't need everything planned out for them or needs your attention 24/7. There's also the extrovert/introvert thing. It's not going to work out if someone keeps asking if everything's OK or if something's wrong. Keep that in mind when dealing with your partner and their personality type.

Executive Summary: Find someone that is independent and smarter than you (or at least strive to find someone smarter than you (not you as in Leonaerd but as in anyone, male or female). Make sure they can entertain themselves and that there is enough trust in the relationship to not worry about your partner when they're out and about doing their own thing. Find someone you can have conversations with for longer than five minutes (that aren't about a movie or the weather) without them or you losing interest.

Keep the cuddling to a minimum outside of your two day window. Spooning is OK. Find someone that will battle for the covers in bed. If they complain when they wake up and you've rolled yourself up in the covers and they're coverless on the other side of the bed, it's a sign of weakness and they're not the one for you. Find someone who will grab the covers back and push you off the bed. Tough love.

You've got to face facts. Sometimes, while maybe the sex is good or you have fun out on the town with your partner, you may bore each other while not having sex or partying.

Plan B: find a deadbeat with a fast metabolism that's happy playing console and computer games all day and night that swallows (or is a master of the tongue tornado technique)

[Noysyrump]

Here is my $0.02.

Do not talk to her, dont even be cordial on myspace aol etc. Delete the bitch from freinds lists. Move on.

I got divorced in 2000. It ruined me. I am now a different person, I was happily married (and playing eq too much) so I took it real hard. Like almost shot people dead hard. I slowly began to get over it. It took a long time, but I got over it.

Then 1 day, she calls me at work (no idea how she got the #) and invites me to a movie like 5 years later. I figure 'what the hell, maybe ill tap that shit again'. And we go out a couple times, once with my then best friend. Bahm, now they have the chance to start seeing each other so they do, and it opened up a whole lotta hurt left inside me. Now I'm back where I was before minus 1 best friend.

Girls aint worth the trouble. Bang-em while you can then move on. But I'm a cynical mysoganist now so whateve.

[Winnow]

Winnow wrote:Re: Fuck Women

Sent at: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:45 pm
From: Winnow
To: Sylvus

Off the record, I really just want a stupid fuckslut to bang and blow me while I post jibberish on VV.

Go Suns!

Is nothing private anymore!?