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Bubba Grizz
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What about all the good things America has done for other countries? All the money, food and medicine we have spread throughout the world. Maybe it is just because I am in the US and sheltered but I have never heard of Al-Q sending anything to help out with the Tsunami or any other kind of relief effort. How about the earthquake in Pakistan? Did they help out there? Just a thought. (then again I never heard of Ireland doing any of the above either unless they are lumped in with England. not a flame just a fact)
We do give so much...
Lets see, yes we all poured our hearts out about the tradgey last year...
But lets look at over all giving through America... We have the highest GNP in the world, right now we give the equilvant of 1 penny out of every $100 to help people in other places in the world. Out of that 1 penny only about 15% actually gets there because of all the red tape. Much of that is also given to countries that don't really need the help but are buddies of our current administration, even if they aren't "buddies" publically...
Now lets compare that to all the other industralized nations... Germany gives like $.12, UK $.10, Canada $.09, Japan $.09 etc... if we gave anywhere NEAR what the other countries gives there would be no hunger, anywhere in the world, AIDS could be controlled in many African countries and we might could stop some of these other diseases from spreading.
Lets also take into considertaion our OWN country. Much of the stuff we give overseas is excess grain from American farmers because the little man is important... not. Last year 90% of all farm subsidies were given to farmers that owned over a million acres...a MILLION acres. I have to admit that my counsins own that much and got a nice fat check NOT to do some work, while my wife's uncle lost his 250 acre farm because the Gov gave him the shaft... again the republicans aren't for the little man, in ANY area...
Then lets talk about Greenhouse Gasses, you guys know we started the whole deal, we set the standards for others to agree too then when they did, we backed out. Due to the facts presented at the latest conference, if we do not cut emissions soon the average temp will rise 10 degrees this century. 10 degress, do you have ANY idea what that could do to the globe? In response most of Europe who agreed to our original standards of cutting 7-12% by 2012 went back and committed to close to 50% by 2015 while we said we weren't going to do anything...
We are all going to suffer dearly for at least the next 20 years because of this administrion... I just hope by then we can at least regain some of our leadship standing and trust we have squandered.
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Lets see, yes we all poured our hearts out about the tradgey last year...
But lets look at over all giving through America... We have the highest GNP in the world, right now we give the equilvant of 1 penny out of every $100 to help people in other places in the world. Out of that 1 penny only about 15% actually gets there because of all the red tape. Much of that is also given to countries that don't really need the help but are buddies of our current administration, even if they aren't "buddies" publically...
Now lets compare that to all the other industralized nations... Germany gives like $.12, UK $.10, Canada $.09, Japan $.09 etc... if we gave anywhere NEAR what the other countries gives there would be no hunger, anywhere in the world, AIDS could be controlled in many African countries and we might could stop some of these other diseases from spreading.
Lets also take into considertaion our OWN country. Much of the stuff we give overseas is excess grain from American farmers because the little man is important... not. Last year 90% of all farm subsidies were given to farmers that owned over a million acres...a MILLION acres. I have to admit that my counsins own that much and got a nice fat check NOT to do some work, while my wife's uncle lost his 250 acre farm because the Gov gave him the shaft... again the republicans aren't for the little man, in ANY area...
Then lets talk about Greenhouse Gasses, you guys know we started the whole deal, we set the standards for others to agree too then when they did, we backed out. Due to the facts presented at the latest conference, if we do not cut emissions soon the average temp will rise 10 degrees this century. 10 degress, do you have ANY idea what that could do to the globe? In response most of Europe who agreed to our original standards of cutting 7-12% by 2012 went back and committed to close to 50% by 2015 while we said we weren't going to do anything...
We are all going to suffer dearly for at least the next 20 years because of this administrion... I just hope by then we can at least regain some of our leadship standing and trust we have squandered.
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Bubba Grizz
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I know it was a joke but I want to make sure that no one misunderstands anything that I post...
I LOVE AMERICA! If I didn't love my country I wouldn't care... if I didn't feel that the values we have promoted, and that this country has stood for over the past 200 years were the right values... I wouldn't care what the current administration does... I'm concerned because I DO love this country.
Marb
I LOVE AMERICA! If I didn't love my country I wouldn't care... if I didn't feel that the values we have promoted, and that this country has stood for over the past 200 years were the right values... I wouldn't care what the current administration does... I'm concerned because I DO love this country.
Marb
if i can choose between making the occasional typo versus beeing like you, take a wild guess at which way i'd go.Noysyrump wrote:Holy crap a guy who can't type called me stupid, afk to cry.Tuddi2 wrote:holy crap.
nosyrup is like midnyte, but really really stupid.
it's like watching the twilight zone, and then having the guy at the end say "oh and this is all true .. not kidding" and trying to believe it, it's just so stupid you can't imagine how anyone if decent intelligence would ever fall for it.
i bet nosyrup would if the show was about how the us goverment applies itself to world wide affairs.
ps. english isn't my first language, nor is it the 2nd, and i can sorta make myself understood in the 4th, how about you smarty pants.
I suggest you write your next post in your own language and then use one of the free translators online to convert it to English. Even those auto-garbled translations would make more sense than your last post.Tuddi2 wrote: if i can choose between making the occasional typo versus beeing like you, take a wild guess at which way i'd go.
ps. english isn't my first language, nor is it the 2nd, and i can sorta make myself understood in the 4th, how about you smarty pants.
want validation. Ill just tell you how one of the most evil racist pigs on this board A American has done to make me better than a member of AlQueda.
Have cared and traveled most the world and have done tons of work in Africa feeding small black children that you guys say I hate even though this Racist ass is engaged to a puerto rican....I have personally fed several villages on my own whim for a half year or so without being asked but just knowing the situation. If I didnt give a rats ass those 1000s would of been starving. I gave my time, money and heart to the poor people there for over 15years now aswell to Katrina victims as a volunteer at the Astodome. Have also put much of time in wildlife conservation and hunting down poachers aswell. And I have to put up with shits like many of you saying we don't do enough...Well I say why don't you do more then personally?
That is just a little bit of volunteer efforts I have done as a Evil Republican no different than AlQueda. There average joe has taught 10 child suicide bombers, machete'd a couple dozen people, beheaded a girl or 2...and goes around preaching hatred and death to the west and non-islamic people. I guess were just 2 pee's in a pod as Nick would say.
I have not made any plans to blow up shops or buildings or children with bombs. I dont remember beheading any people.
My reasoning on Militant Islam deals with these issues:
You guys should be 10000x more worried about them than Americans...when America turns into a Islamic nation in about 200 years people like you will be the first they behead
I hate Fanatical Islam even more than you guys hate Christians.
They treat women badly
They do not allow democratic governments
Islam has a high rate of fanatics 1-20%
Islam is involved in approximately 14 of 15 conflicts occuring in the world today and at about any given time.
Islam has grown from around 200million to over 1 billion in just 60 years, by use of hatred and killing.
Many middle eastern people I personally know have family members held as prisoners for just speaking out or not being part of that religion or being part of the educated class.
Look as the mass genocides...many of them are Muslims killing the christians like in Sudan and other parts of northern Africa.
As Bin Laden has said: They love death and America is weak because we love life...So they do not mind dieing for there cause and after the US takes some death well run away.
AlQueda and Fanatical Islam runs by a culture of death, They would think it was a good thing to use Nuclear weapons to kill jews or infidels as a first strike device...They think they would goto heaven for this action.....I dont know many Americans that would think that way.
They love to force spread there religion into poor countrys and divide the people and gain control from within
Pakastan was part of India,
Philippine Muslims seperation in Mindanao and Sulu
The French riots recently...and some in Militant Islam were calling for a seperate state.
The bombings across the world bali, madrid, england, WTC, Turkey even killing there own in Iraq and Saudi
Fanatics are like right wing bible thumpers, but believe its good to kill and they are killing all over the world.
The enemy isnt terrorism and is not Islam. It is ideological militant Islam. We all know this.
Calling it the war on terrorism - is like calling World War II the war against surprise attacks.
Weve set around for 60years and they are spreading like wild fire. It time we deal with the issue harshly and get our act together or in 200 years well all be living with a vail of militant islam around us everyday.
BTW Nick what makes you better than Americans or for that matter islamic militants..while you just sit aside doing nothing but bitch and hate America....Doing nothing of substance allows for the situation to become worse. It can be argued your way of dealing with situations causes more death since we don't deal with a possible occuring situation. We don't live in a dream world were everyone will hug and say we won't kill anymore and if we act that way the bad will be able to spread into forces under our radar that become serious.
Since you are so much smarter than any American...What would you do to solve the current situations across the World or how about just the Middle East?
Have cared and traveled most the world and have done tons of work in Africa feeding small black children that you guys say I hate even though this Racist ass is engaged to a puerto rican....I have personally fed several villages on my own whim for a half year or so without being asked but just knowing the situation. If I didnt give a rats ass those 1000s would of been starving. I gave my time, money and heart to the poor people there for over 15years now aswell to Katrina victims as a volunteer at the Astodome. Have also put much of time in wildlife conservation and hunting down poachers aswell. And I have to put up with shits like many of you saying we don't do enough...Well I say why don't you do more then personally?
That is just a little bit of volunteer efforts I have done as a Evil Republican no different than AlQueda. There average joe has taught 10 child suicide bombers, machete'd a couple dozen people, beheaded a girl or 2...and goes around preaching hatred and death to the west and non-islamic people. I guess were just 2 pee's in a pod as Nick would say.
I have not made any plans to blow up shops or buildings or children with bombs. I dont remember beheading any people.
My reasoning on Militant Islam deals with these issues:
You guys should be 10000x more worried about them than Americans...when America turns into a Islamic nation in about 200 years people like you will be the first they behead
I hate Fanatical Islam even more than you guys hate Christians.
They treat women badly
They do not allow democratic governments
Islam has a high rate of fanatics 1-20%
Islam is involved in approximately 14 of 15 conflicts occuring in the world today and at about any given time.
Islam has grown from around 200million to over 1 billion in just 60 years, by use of hatred and killing.
Many middle eastern people I personally know have family members held as prisoners for just speaking out or not being part of that religion or being part of the educated class.
Look as the mass genocides...many of them are Muslims killing the christians like in Sudan and other parts of northern Africa.
As Bin Laden has said: They love death and America is weak because we love life...So they do not mind dieing for there cause and after the US takes some death well run away.
AlQueda and Fanatical Islam runs by a culture of death, They would think it was a good thing to use Nuclear weapons to kill jews or infidels as a first strike device...They think they would goto heaven for this action.....I dont know many Americans that would think that way.
They love to force spread there religion into poor countrys and divide the people and gain control from within
Pakastan was part of India,
Philippine Muslims seperation in Mindanao and Sulu
The French riots recently...and some in Militant Islam were calling for a seperate state.
The bombings across the world bali, madrid, england, WTC, Turkey even killing there own in Iraq and Saudi
Fanatics are like right wing bible thumpers, but believe its good to kill and they are killing all over the world.
The enemy isnt terrorism and is not Islam. It is ideological militant Islam. We all know this.
Calling it the war on terrorism - is like calling World War II the war against surprise attacks.
Weve set around for 60years and they are spreading like wild fire. It time we deal with the issue harshly and get our act together or in 200 years well all be living with a vail of militant islam around us everyday.
BTW Nick what makes you better than Americans or for that matter islamic militants..while you just sit aside doing nothing but bitch and hate America....Doing nothing of substance allows for the situation to become worse. It can be argued your way of dealing with situations causes more death since we don't deal with a possible occuring situation. We don't live in a dream world were everyone will hug and say we won't kill anymore and if we act that way the bad will be able to spread into forces under our radar that become serious.
Since you are so much smarter than any American...What would you do to solve the current situations across the World or how about just the Middle East?
CRY HAVOC...........AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!!!!
Not to rain on your parade, but most Government funded aid is there to keep people on-side and more importantly other Governments. It's not altruistic, and even if it was, you're talking like it would be OK to molest kids if you ran Ronald McDonald House, or it's OK to beat your wife if you buy her flowers and jewelry after.
Perhaps you'd like to make a case that the Nazi's gave jews full employment later?
Perhaps you'd like to make a case that the Nazi's gave jews full employment later?
May 2003 - "Mission Accomplished"
June 2005 - "The mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight"
-- G W Bush, freelance writer for The Daily Show.
June 2005 - "The mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight"
-- G W Bush, freelance writer for The Daily Show.
ok Z. that doesnt really correlate? More like the child is running into to Ronald house with a gernade and ya slap him out, or you stop him before he enters.
Rant time:
I hope we come up with a system of alternate fuel sources for our entire system and drill as much as we can while advancing our technology....I hate dealing with militant Islam...One thing Ive noticed is many of them dont mind death and dont mind killing. Easily corrupted into killers.
I volunteer my time and money and life to non Islamic groups. I do not get involved with islam..its not cause they maybe somewhat brown..but because they are religious fanatics that many think death is good. Around them In poor areas I feel I may get my head chopped off, I do not feel safe. Have you ever went down a street selling body parts and dealing with human slavery still THIS DAY..I have in vodoo and Islamic regions of Africa, and I never want to go back. There is actually still a mass slavery trade going on in this world.
You notice something about the strategy of taking out Afganistan and Iraq....Or can ya just answer with a 2 sentence stupid comeback.
ok Afganistan was a no brainer WTC ALQ there...we go in.
ok Iraq 12 yrs of violations bad dictator used WMDs on his people and others before and loose connections to terrorism(not really AlQ though) we had a excuse that enough were willing to go in.
We now have a border too Pakistan
We now have a border too Syria
We now have 2 borders too Iran
We now have a border to Saudi Arabia to amass mass armys
We have ally govt's supposably in Pakistan and Saudi...but if one of those govt's fall like many say the Saudi royal family wont last another generation we have a land mass next too them to amass our forces and setup logistics incase a radical islamic govt forms.
Iran we have 2 borders on either side now to amass forces...and Iran is falling right into our trap spouting off there mouth....and even getting france germany and canada ect falling in more on our side. May take a couple years but believe me the world will be happy weve takin over iraq in order to deal with Iran if it has too...Its a good entry point.(I hope its done diplomatically, but hey it may not)
Syria is a piss ant if they raise to much more hell after Iraq calms down they can be smacked down by the Vaticans swiss guard through Iraq.
If Saudi Arabi royal family falls we can enter a mass army..(which we kick ass with) and establish another govt. that isnt Islamic militant. This will also be used with Pakistan..by mass strikes on there nuclear sites with rapid forces moving into them to secure them if Musharifs govt falls and a islamic militant regime is formed.
And if another WTC happens again we wipe mecca and medina off the face of the earth....You respond when your attacked with such over whelming force NO ONE will even think about attacking you for a hundred or so years...Then you can live in peace for awhile. This wont happen but it should in my opinion. Better to finish the war now while we are ages ahead in technology then when we all have WMDs.
Anyways The move is to use as much excuses as we can atm in order to strategically place our forces or setup points for logistics in order to deal with future or as they say forseeable or possible threats. That is why at the begining of this war it was said to be a very long lasting war. Afganistan is one battle and Iraq is one battle of this war...They are not a war alone.
Sorry to break it too you but thats the reality of the way the world works. It sucks and its best to just make the best of the life you have and what you can do so you don't fall into some pessimistic trap.
Rant time:
I hope we come up with a system of alternate fuel sources for our entire system and drill as much as we can while advancing our technology....I hate dealing with militant Islam...One thing Ive noticed is many of them dont mind death and dont mind killing. Easily corrupted into killers.
I volunteer my time and money and life to non Islamic groups. I do not get involved with islam..its not cause they maybe somewhat brown..but because they are religious fanatics that many think death is good. Around them In poor areas I feel I may get my head chopped off, I do not feel safe. Have you ever went down a street selling body parts and dealing with human slavery still THIS DAY..I have in vodoo and Islamic regions of Africa, and I never want to go back. There is actually still a mass slavery trade going on in this world.
You notice something about the strategy of taking out Afganistan and Iraq....Or can ya just answer with a 2 sentence stupid comeback.
ok Afganistan was a no brainer WTC ALQ there...we go in.
ok Iraq 12 yrs of violations bad dictator used WMDs on his people and others before and loose connections to terrorism(not really AlQ though) we had a excuse that enough were willing to go in.
We now have a border too Pakistan
We now have a border too Syria
We now have 2 borders too Iran
We now have a border to Saudi Arabia to amass mass armys
We have ally govt's supposably in Pakistan and Saudi...but if one of those govt's fall like many say the Saudi royal family wont last another generation we have a land mass next too them to amass our forces and setup logistics incase a radical islamic govt forms.
Iran we have 2 borders on either side now to amass forces...and Iran is falling right into our trap spouting off there mouth....and even getting france germany and canada ect falling in more on our side. May take a couple years but believe me the world will be happy weve takin over iraq in order to deal with Iran if it has too...Its a good entry point.(I hope its done diplomatically, but hey it may not)
Syria is a piss ant if they raise to much more hell after Iraq calms down they can be smacked down by the Vaticans swiss guard through Iraq.
If Saudi Arabi royal family falls we can enter a mass army..(which we kick ass with) and establish another govt. that isnt Islamic militant. This will also be used with Pakistan..by mass strikes on there nuclear sites with rapid forces moving into them to secure them if Musharifs govt falls and a islamic militant regime is formed.
And if another WTC happens again we wipe mecca and medina off the face of the earth....You respond when your attacked with such over whelming force NO ONE will even think about attacking you for a hundred or so years...Then you can live in peace for awhile. This wont happen but it should in my opinion. Better to finish the war now while we are ages ahead in technology then when we all have WMDs.
Anyways The move is to use as much excuses as we can atm in order to strategically place our forces or setup points for logistics in order to deal with future or as they say forseeable or possible threats. That is why at the begining of this war it was said to be a very long lasting war. Afganistan is one battle and Iraq is one battle of this war...They are not a war alone.
Sorry to break it too you but thats the reality of the way the world works. It sucks and its best to just make the best of the life you have and what you can do so you don't fall into some pessimistic trap.
CRY HAVOC...........AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!!!!
I agree with the whole alternative fuel source thing, if half the money went into the development of that that goes into the arms industry none of this situation and unbridled racism would have to happen.
Oh, and because you got on your knees and fed some black kids doesn't mean that America has the right or is morally correct in killing tens of thousands of innocent people to protect it's oil assets.
So, in conclusion, I would kick the current administration out, develop new fuel sources to their maximum potential, cut toxic emissions by banning those fucking retarded SUVs among other things, cut all ties with Isreal and Saudi Arabia and let the middle east do what it wanted instead of stupidly supporting certain alleged friends/countries of certain members of the government, apologise for past murderous indescretions, put Bush up for War crimes, along with Reagan.
Assuming you still had oil however to deal with, I still wouldn't go into Iraq and murder children and attempt to fob it off with some patriotic democratic attempt for freedom from the terririririrsts.
And I would either cut ties with Israel, or get them to stop their blatant human rights violations against the Palastinians, I would hunt Bin Laden instead of thinking where the next war would be, bring him to justice, and work towards a safer freer middle east, so they inhabitants of that part of the world actually felt like trading with us as opposed to killing us and each other because we happen to have fucked with their lives for so long.
I would probably not be a good leader, as I would ideally like everyone who supports Bush to be detained indefinetely at Guantanamo bay.
Oh, and because you got on your knees and fed some black kids doesn't mean that America has the right or is morally correct in killing tens of thousands of innocent people to protect it's oil assets.
So, in conclusion, I would kick the current administration out, develop new fuel sources to their maximum potential, cut toxic emissions by banning those fucking retarded SUVs among other things, cut all ties with Isreal and Saudi Arabia and let the middle east do what it wanted instead of stupidly supporting certain alleged friends/countries of certain members of the government, apologise for past murderous indescretions, put Bush up for War crimes, along with Reagan.
Assuming you still had oil however to deal with, I still wouldn't go into Iraq and murder children and attempt to fob it off with some patriotic democratic attempt for freedom from the terririririrsts.
And I would either cut ties with Israel, or get them to stop their blatant human rights violations against the Palastinians, I would hunt Bin Laden instead of thinking where the next war would be, bring him to justice, and work towards a safer freer middle east, so they inhabitants of that part of the world actually felt like trading with us as opposed to killing us and each other because we happen to have fucked with their lives for so long.
I would probably not be a good leader, as I would ideally like everyone who supports Bush to be detained indefinetely at Guantanamo bay.
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Bubba Grizz
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i'll try and improve my written word.Winnow wrote:I suggest you write your next post in your own language and then use one of the free translators online to convert it to English. Even those auto-garbled translations would make more sense than your last post.Tuddi2 wrote: if i can choose between making the occasional typo versus beeing like you, take a wild guess at which way i'd go.
ps. english isn't my first language, nor is it the 2nd, and i can sorta make myself understood in the 4th, how about you smarty pants.
point taken.
I think for the most part your right till fanatical religious islam knocked at your doors to convert or die...250 million to now 1.1 billion in 50 years....It would be coming. and many of those werent stealing there oilI agree with the whole alternative fuel source thing, if half the money went into the development of that that goes into the arms industry none of this situation and unbridled racism would have to happen.
CRY HAVOC...........AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!!!!!