Serious Question

Drustwyn · Post by **Drustwyn** » May 29, 2003, 5:56 pm

Hey my knowledgable VV friends,

Suppose a friend of mine is going in for a drug test (piss) in two days.. How long does marijuana stay in his/her system?

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » May 29, 2003, 5:59 pm

Cannabinoids (THC, Marijuana) 14-60 days

http://www.aaatestlabs.com/drugtimes.htm

sucks to be your friend?

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » May 29, 2003, 6:00 pm

your 'friend' better start drinking Golden Seal like it is going out of style

Post by **Sylvus** » May 29, 2003, 6:01 pm

I've known people that have been caught in a test with several weeks between smoking and their test, and I've known people that have smoked the day before and passed it. Hydration is a good means of speeding up the process of getting it out of your system, and there are masking agents that have worked very well for several of my friends. I am told that some of those agents will show up in the test though, depending on how thorough the test is. Good luck.

Spangaloid_PE · Post by **Spangaloid_PE** » May 29, 2003, 6:05 pm

have a clean friend piss into a balloon. tie it up and throw it on the dash of the vehicle enroute to the place where he will be giving his sample, this will keep it warm. then throw the sample into the cup, flush the toilet for effect and wa-la, he passes his drug test. ummm, but you didn't hear that from me.

ofcourse this only works if he is the only person in the bathroom at the time.

Stalker Vacio · Post by **Stalker Vacio** » May 29, 2003, 6:07 pm

Golden seal will clear them out for a piss test.

It's the blood, hair and fingernair test you half to watch out form.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » May 29, 2003, 6:08 pm

wa-la

Just an FYI, its voilá. Not trying to be a "smarty pants" as you put it, just letting you know.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » May 29, 2003, 6:10 pm

Is a viola anything like a violin?

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » May 29, 2003, 6:11 pm

A couple things. You CANNOT flush the toilet in a drug test, because you could be flushing something a little fishy down it. (no pun intended) Most drug tests that I know of now a days check the dilution level now, so drinking ass loads of water will also cause you to fail. Though I guess it depends what it's for. If its for a job, then they check dilution, if its for the courts, I don't believe they do. Worst comes to worst they will just make your 'friend' repiss.

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » May 29, 2003, 6:13 pm

Sorry Sabek, that avatar is just...

fucking

ugly

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » May 29, 2003, 7:59 pm

tell him to drink vinager, drink like 4 glasses of vinager and your pretty set, cramberry juce also is good

i had the same situation and vinager really does do it, he wouldt need more then a few glasses the day before, if he smokes his ass off a few glasses a night

Drustwyn · Post by **Drustwyn** » May 29, 2003, 8:23 pm

anyone know how reliable home tests are?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » May 29, 2003, 8:39 pm

home tests are pretty easy to pass in little time, then again it all depends how much youv smoked

hair tests though youl just be fucked, unless its a really cheap hair test then you can just wash your hair really well a few times, but the realiable ones are expensive as hell

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » May 29, 2003, 8:51 pm

Sorry Sabek, that avatar is just...

fucking

ugly

Its a lizzerd... its supposed to be ugly, Master... thats how they kill stuff: attack while the victim is retching at the sight

Spangaloid_PE · Post by **Spangaloid_PE** » May 29, 2003, 8:53 pm

to parody Aranuil - "COULD THAT AVATAR BE ANY BIGGAR!!!1!111!! OMG LOL!!!1!!!1 OMG WTF!!!!!11!11 PIE > CAKE!!!!111!!"

Arsecn · Post by **Arsecn** » May 29, 2003, 9:21 pm

You're a fucking dipshit Spang.

Spangaloid_PE · Post by **Spangaloid_PE** » May 29, 2003, 9:28 pm

i deserve that

noel · Post by **noel** » May 29, 2003, 9:33 pm

Did someone say my name?

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 29, 2003, 9:55 pm

TROLLIE!!!

Oh, and to help with the original question:

30-45 days average in system. To speed things up try GoldenSeal or any other diuretic(sp?). Basically, the more you pee, the quicker it gets flushed out so drink lots of water!!

Best bet, of course, if you like to smoke teh reefer, is abstain for 30-45 days to be teh safe....

littering and......
littering and.........

Deneve · Post by **Deneve** » May 29, 2003, 10:03 pm

Wulfran wrote:
Sorry Sabek, that avatar is just...

fucking

ugly
Its a lizzerd... its supposed to be ugly, Master... thats how they kill stuff: attack while the victim is retching at the sight

stfu up...leezard>j00....i wish i had been a leezard...everyone does...hence the jealousy therefore, much h8 for iksar

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 29, 2003, 10:06 pm

Finished shining my boots yet Wulfie?

cid · Post by **cid** » May 29, 2003, 10:45 pm

DA BST WAY 2 GET WED OUT OF UR SYST3M IS NOT 2 FUKIN SMOK3 IT!!11!!1111111!1 FUKNG DUMB AS WTF LOL!!!!1111!!!

Soreali · Post by **Soreali** » May 29, 2003, 10:55 pm

Canelek wrote:
littering and......
littering and.........

The snozberries taste like snozberries!

mother of god...

Pilsburry · Post by **Pilsburry** » May 29, 2003, 11:10 pm

I don't smoke but I did see this thing called the "butt wedge" or something like that on a website.

It was a wedge you put between your ass cheeks filled with someone elses urine, it keeps it body temperature and you just unkink a thing in the front of the tube and squeeze your little cheeks together to simulate pissing.

Edit: Yeah... http://www.buttwedge.com

Last time I got checked they didn't let me flush and the chick kept peeking her head in (I wasn't allowed to close the door) it made me rather nervous....I had to go back like 5 times, I don't preform well under pressure.

So if he needs a few days he can try to pretend he has stage fright and reschedule, I assume it's pretty common...although probably not 5 times. But enough time to get to one of those local retailers listed on that site.

Good luck.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 30, 2003, 12:17 am

Soreali wrote:
Canelek wrote:
littering and......
littering and.........

The snozberries taste like snozberries!

mother of god...

"How ya feelin Mack?"

"Good enough...to fuck..yer mother!!!"

--love that movie

murr · Post by **murr** » May 30, 2003, 12:34 am

I have a related questoin. I graduated last weekend and in my drunken stupor took two hits off a blunt (didn't get high), and I have to take a drug test next week. Will that shit show?

dast911 · Post by **dast911** » May 30, 2003, 2:52 am

i hope youre skinny

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 30, 2003, 3:07 am

murr durr wrote:I have a related questoin. I graduated last weekend and in my drunken stupor took two hits off a blunt (didn't get high), and I have to take a drug test next week. Will that shit show?

Even with minimal intake, it will indeed show. Dr. Canno's recommendation is: LOTS of water and supplements of Goldenseal to stimulate 'Peeing like a mofo'.

A couple hits off of a blunt/joint/bonghit/whatever doesn't matter. And as far as getting high....well, whether you felt high or not, you did intake THC into your blood. You probably didn't get all that much, which is good in your case, but it is good to be cautious.

On a positive note, I don't think they probe all that deep(detailed), just due to the expenses involved in testing for more than alcohol.

I am in no way advocating pot smoking, although I see no real physical harm in it, it does suck ass that something like a couple hit can hinder getting a job... Do what you can and cross yer fingers. Hell, if you fail the test, you will know to take proactive measures next time. GL!

PS: Oh, some folks say that they test for GoldenSeal as well. Well, that is bullshit. Even if they did, Goldenseal is a common supplement to help stimulate the immune system and cannot be tied to "dodge the pee test" so don't sweat that.

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » May 30, 2003, 3:31 am

Try our piss tests.

They stand no more than 2 feet away from you and actually watch the golden streams from origin to final destination.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » May 30, 2003, 3:38 am

Sendarie wrote:Try our piss tests.

They stand no more than 2 feet away from you and actually watch the golden streams from origin to final destination.

I can't pee when people are standing next to me.

Laliana · Post by **Laliana** » May 30, 2003, 4:08 am

Only time I ever had to take a drug test was 2 days after having minor surgery..I was still on pain meds. (T3's) While I told them before the test I was on them, and if anything it should have come up as possibly THC,(While acetaminophen is not illegal, nor tested for in drug tests, heavy levels can cause a false positive for cannabis) they reported to my employer I tested positive for cocaine! WTF!

I got the job anyway..but was never sure if the drug testing center fucked up or if my boss heard wrong.

Laliana · Post by **Laliana** » May 30, 2003, 4:15 am

Pilsburry wrote:I don't smoke but I did see this thing called the "butt wedge" or something like that on a website.

It was a wedge you put between your ass cheeks filled with someone elses urine.

I didn't read beyond that point, that's just too wrong somehow.....

And yes I am trying to get some VV's in.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 30, 2003, 8:17 am

It all depends on your metabolism, the THC bonds to fatty cells and can stay in your system up to 4 months. If you smoke a lot and/or are fat, it's going to take longer. Compared to 7 days for coke and ~24 hours for LSD...

Nothing will get it out but not smoking, you can dilute it by drinking a lot of anything, but nothing is going to flush your system. Doesn't work that way. You'd have to find a way hydrate/dehydrate your fatty cells, and your body protects them pretty well.

I had to serve as a balif at a couple court martials where folks tried to fight pee test results. Worked with the folks that administered them too. Other than procedural errors, I never heard of anyone winning (out of 100+ people).

*Edit - Yes I know your brothers cousins former roomate who smoked a 2 ouces a day passed after drinking 2 gallons of goat urine the day prior. Doesn't prove anything, and the tests err on the side of caution.

ZigginSwigalot · Post by **ZigginSwigalot** » May 30, 2003, 8:45 am

it all depends on your metabolism and how long you smoked. say someone smokes for a month every day, and another person smokes maybe once a week every day and both people stop the same day, person a is going to take longer to get out of their system most likely. there's a THC calculator somewhere on the internet that can help you out. here's the link. it's a DLable program. http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/c ... c_calc.exe

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » May 30, 2003, 8:52 am

Zamtuk wrote: I can't pee when people are standing next to me.

No choice in the matter there. They no-notice you then your in their office an hour later and you dont get to leave (neither do they) until the deed is done.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » May 30, 2003, 9:00 am

Couple of random interjections:
1) A heavy pot smoker's body adapts and becomes more efficient at removing oily substances from the bloodstream (I read a study some years ago and cannot be arsed to google for it) so they may well have the same decay-rate as a less dedicated smokah.
2) Unless you're operating dangerous machinery or have other people's lives in your hands while at work, anyone wanting a drugs test can frankly fuck right off IMO. Fucking Big Brother bullshit.

Jassun · Post by **Jassun** » May 30, 2003, 9:01 am

I had a "friend" in an almost identical situation about a year ago.

First, take as much niacin as you can tolerate. Niacin is a water-soluble vitamin that stimulates the release of energy from carbohydrates and fats. Taking large doses of it causes a flushing effect on your body.

Try taking double the recommended dose. If you don’t feel any side effects (dry mouth, red and itchy skin, red eyes) then take more.

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE:
Do not take more than the recommended dose if you have an ulcer or if you are diabetic. It causes increased gastric acid and can impair glucose tolerance.

To aid in the flushing effect, drink 5+ gallons of water a day AND at least 1 gallon of cranberry juice. Drink water until you feel as if you will puke and then drink more.

Try to sweat as much as possible. Do anything you can do to get your body to process fluids. The general concept is fluids in, fluids out.

Worked for me, err, my friend I mean, with three days notice. Although, my friend did have to take the test twice because the first time the sample was too dilute.

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » May 30, 2003, 9:36 am

Since you just smoked, or your friend just smoked...chances are it will show up in the test. My suggestion is this:

Dip your "soapy" fingers when your washing your hands into the urine. Not much, mind you, just one finger tip is fine. The soap then "contaminates" the test. They will pick up foreign substances that should not be in the blood system and you will have to retake the test.

Take this time till retest to not fooken smoke anymore, and pray you get enough out of your system. Be forewarned, do not try this technique two tests in a row, they are not as dumb as you think

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » May 30, 2003, 9:43 am

Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:Sorry Sabek, that avatar is just...

fucking

ugly

It's pretty huge also.
Prob gonna go back to my panty face portrait.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » May 30, 2003, 10:20 am

My friend bought one of those contraptions off the internet that keeps the piss at a constant body temp. I pissed in it for him, he used it and passed.

As an extra bonus, the DR banged on the door as he was pouring my piss into his cup and he got spooked and spilled my piss all over himself. I remind him of it at least once a month. I love it.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 30, 2003, 10:25 am

So, he pissed himself with your piss?

masteen · Post by **masteen** » May 30, 2003, 11:32 am

GNC makes this stuff called Cleansing Formula. It's not in the section for drug testing, but in the regular supplements section. Basically, it's an herbal concoction designed to flush all impurities from the system. If you take 2 capsules with every meal and drink lots of water for 2 days, you're clean. Not masked, but clean.

Clatis · Post by **Clatis** » May 30, 2003, 11:39 am

you can get some shit from exxards as well (however u spell exxards) anyways, if you drink water like, A LOT it will get out in like less than a week + pills can get it down to 2 days

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » May 30, 2003, 11:41 am

Maybe a good idea would be, don't smoke pot if you are going to want to work somewhere that drug tests?

Post by **Sylvus** » May 30, 2003, 12:05 pm

masteen wrote:GNC makes this stuff called Cleansing Formula. It's not in the section for drug testing, but in the regular supplements section. Basically, it's an herbal concoction designed to flush all impurities from the system. If you take 2 capsules with every meal and drink lots of water for 2 days, you're clean. Not masked, but clean.

They also have something that we affectionately refer to as "the potion". It's a small bottle of what looks like gatorade, you drink it like 4-6 hours before a test and it masks your test. One of my friends was on probation for a drunk driving and had to be tested randomly every month and he kept smoking the whole time and using the potion. He passed like 6 or 8 tests that were administered by the court. The downside to it is that it costs like $40 or $60 a bottle. If you ask the person working the counter at GNC they'll sigh at you and know exactly what you're talking about.

Your Mileage May Vary.

Kindo · Post by **Kindo** » May 30, 2003, 12:06 pm

It is possible to drink too much water and cause serious harm. Consuming too much water in a short period of time can cause an imbalance in the electrolytes in your body. I have no idea how much water is too much water, I just witnessed this situation when I was a CO. Had an inmate nearly die, was in a coma for quite a while, because of drinking some insane amount of water one day.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 30, 2003, 12:24 pm

Jassun wrote:I had a "friend" in an almost identical situation about a year ago.

First, take as much niacin as you can tolerate. Niacin is a water-soluble vitamin that stimulates the release of energy from carbohydrates and fats. Taking large doses of it causes a flushing effect on your body.

Try taking double the recommended dose. If you don’t feel any side effects (dry mouth, red and itchy skin, red eyes) then take more.

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE:
Do not take more than the recommended dose if you have an ulcer or if you are diabetic. It causes increased gastric acid and can impair glucose tolerance.

To aid in the flushing effect, drink 5+ gallons of water a day AND at least 1 gallon of cranberry juice. Drink water until you feel as if you will puke and then drink more.

Try to sweat as much as possible. Do anything you can do to get your body to process fluids. The general concept is fluids in, fluids out.

Worked for me, err, my friend I mean, with three days notice. Although, my friend did have to take the test twice because the first time the sample was too dilute.

But it's good advice if you want to end up in the hospital and cause some serious harm to your body. Drinking 6+ gallons of liquid a day can cause a sodium imbalance and lead to hyponatremia.

Any medical professional would call you a complete fucking idiot to follow this advice.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » May 30, 2003, 12:45 pm

Sendarie wrote:Try our piss tests.

They stand no more than 2 feet away from you and actually watch the golden streams from origin to final destination.

that's when you piss on them initially before getting it in the cup and say, "oh sorry, I had sex this morning, you understand, yeah?"

they won't stand so close next time, and if they do...well you have a constant source of fucking hilarity.

As for those of you who say you can't pee when someone is watching. Ask that person to help you out. When they say how so, ask them to hold it for you.

No, I haven't taken a billion drug tests or anything.

My advice, be more careful about when and what you use. You'll find OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of people will smoke while at jobs with regular drug tests, they just plan when to do so.

Drug tests suck, get used to them. Even if you are someone who doesn't partake in any drug activity, they're still uncomfortable.

/endramble

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » May 30, 2003, 12:55 pm

what i've heard - ive never had to take a drug test - is that a lot of companies wont change a hiring decision based on THC presence.

They are more worried about other drug use, and people too stupid to beat drug tests for blow, etc.

of course there will be some uptight companies that will probably fire you for having a beer. but you didnt want to work w/ those churchy pinheads anyways.

Pubin · Post by **Pubin** » May 30, 2003, 12:57 pm

Piss tests? blah, get one of these modified strap-ons and don't worry about it. Just get a clean friend to fill it up. Style and utility.

http://www.thewhizzinator.com/index.html

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