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New 20 Dollar Bills
I heard on the radio that the US has decided to redesign the 20 dollar bill, giving it a new color. They didn't say what color it would be though!
Anyone hear about this or can find an article?
Anyone hear about this or can find an article?
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Ok, sorry this is a sore spot for me. Grow the fuck up. Most coutries out there use color in there bills so that it is much harder to counterfit. The federal reserve, instead of shocking american and doing it in one step is taking baby steps to changing american currency to international "standards" (practically at this point).
Phase 1 is complete, changing all the current bills to the new bill style
Phase 2 is complete, adding the newer Sacaquia (sp?) dollar coin.
Phase 3 will be to adding color to the bills, not just 1 color, lots of colors so it's much harder to counterfit. They will probably add things like holograms and stuff as well would be my guess.
Phase 4 will be to drop either seperately or at the same time the dollar bill and the penny. The average penny lasts 1 year (average mind you, some last a lot longer). The average dollar bill lasts only 6 months (and takes 8 cents to print, not counting shredding of a dead bill).
So as you can see, there is logical reasons on why the Federal Reserve are making changes like this. Those who have problems with that can move to any of the mulitple countries that counterfit our current money if you like it so goddamn much.
Phase 1 is complete, changing all the current bills to the new bill style
Phase 2 is complete, adding the newer Sacaquia (sp?) dollar coin.
Phase 3 will be to adding color to the bills, not just 1 color, lots of colors so it's much harder to counterfit. They will probably add things like holograms and stuff as well would be my guess.
Phase 4 will be to drop either seperately or at the same time the dollar bill and the penny. The average penny lasts 1 year (average mind you, some last a lot longer). The average dollar bill lasts only 6 months (and takes 8 cents to print, not counting shredding of a dead bill).
So as you can see, there is logical reasons on why the Federal Reserve are making changes like this. Those who have problems with that can move to any of the mulitple countries that counterfit our current money if you like it so goddamn much.
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It's not going to be blindlingly purple or anything. From what I read (Do a Google search.. Lots of articles) it will be a slight color tint.
http://www.bankersonline.com/security/m ... ney03.htmlHere's what we've heard about the upcoming $20 design:
-The new bills are being referred to as NextGen notes;
-They will feature three subtle background colors. They aren't saying which color(s), but an official with the Bureau of Printing and Engraving reportedly debunked a report in Russia that one of the colors would be pink;
-The green color will still be prominent;
-Andrew Jackson's portrait will still grace the bill, but it will be updated.
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God forbid someone messes around with americans and their currency. They keep trying to introduce dollar coins and the public keeps getting them confused with pennies or chuck e. cheese tokens or whatever and they have to print more singles on paper.
US currency is like the easiest to counterfeit in the world because it is all one color.
US currency is like the easiest to counterfeit in the world because it is all one color.
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kyoukan wrote:God forbid someone messes around with americans and their currency. They keep trying to introduce dollar coins and the public keeps getting them confused with pennies or chuck e. cheese tokens or whatever and they have to print more singles on paper.
US currency is like the easiest to counterfeit in the world because it is all one color.
Well at least its worth something.
hehe what is a peeler bar?
some kind of low class establishment i guess? hehe.
i'm not one who thinks the EU is going to pose a threat to US economic dominance, but the currency is doing well lately that is for sure.
some kind of low class establishment i guess? hehe.
You mean like 1.18 Euros? that is what a 20% decline in relative US currency value since the Euro was introduced.Cartalas wrote:Well at least its worth something.
i'm not one who thinks the EU is going to pose a threat to US economic dominance, but the currency is doing well lately that is for sure.
Voronwë wrote:hehe what is a peeler bar?
some kind of low class establishment i guess? hehe.
You mean like 1.18 Euros? that is what a 20% decline in relative US currency value since the Euro was introduced.Cartalas wrote:Well at least its worth something.
i'm not one who thinks the EU is going to pose a threat to US economic dominance, but the currency is doing well lately that is for sure.
No compared to the Toliet paper from Canada.
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Wasn't Sorianthus the same person who got all riled up because I called Wiccans part of organized religion? Very strange things must get his panties bunched.Aranuil wrote:On a thread about American currency, for someone to reply with:Sheer hilarity. If you're not joking, you should be.Soriathus Serpentine wrote:Ok, sorry this is a sore spot for me. Grow the fuck up.
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YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY MY SINGLES YET YOU MOTHERFUCKERS.
Sorry.
I just am not willing to carry $10 in coins around because I bought a taco from taco bell and got back all sorts of heavy crap-ass change back.
I don't have a purse, sorry, I'm a guy...and I'm striaght so I'm not allowed to have one of those fanny pack things either.
So every tiem I sit down I'm going to drop $5 in change on the god damn mother fucking floor? I don't think so.
Switch to a cashless society, were almost there...you take away my singles, and I will be there....I will go cashless on the day you remove singles. No joke.
Only place you can't feasibly use a debit card is a strip club...everywhere else can add a card scanner NP...and the strip club could make a machine to swipe your card that will give you like tickets like Chuck E. Cheese tickets.....they can be like "it's 5 tickets to ride this ride boys". It would make it easier for the club to make thier cut anyway....charge $1.25 a icket, machine eats 0.05, club gets 0.20 and girl gets 1.00...if I was a club owner I'd see it as a huge opportunity to make some more cash....hell force $1.50 tips....sell lap dance tickets and if they go unused....that means the person either wasted cash for nothing, or he will be back.
As for $1 not enough at a strip club....ok next denomination we have is $5, which is like what $7.50 canadian? Were not talking lap dances here...were talking I saw you dance from across the room, here's a tip...lap dances are like $25+...per song which is what 3 minutes...
So if you remove singles were gonna tip coins...and $30 is not unexpected from a dance on stage...$30 in coins is hard to pick-up, it's heavy, and it isn't conveinant to carry...strip clubs will adopt something new...people can't afford to blow $5 tips left and right...and coins suck ass for that purpose. Besides if we tipped 5x as much strippers would be the highest paid workers in the nation....you would pray your daughter grew up to be a stripper...because she would make like...$200/hr
Just my thoughts.
Sorry.
I just am not willing to carry $10 in coins around because I bought a taco from taco bell and got back all sorts of heavy crap-ass change back.
I don't have a purse, sorry, I'm a guy...and I'm striaght so I'm not allowed to have one of those fanny pack things either.
So every tiem I sit down I'm going to drop $5 in change on the god damn mother fucking floor? I don't think so.
Switch to a cashless society, were almost there...you take away my singles, and I will be there....I will go cashless on the day you remove singles. No joke.
Only place you can't feasibly use a debit card is a strip club...everywhere else can add a card scanner NP...and the strip club could make a machine to swipe your card that will give you like tickets like Chuck E. Cheese tickets.....they can be like "it's 5 tickets to ride this ride boys". It would make it easier for the club to make thier cut anyway....charge $1.25 a icket, machine eats 0.05, club gets 0.20 and girl gets 1.00...if I was a club owner I'd see it as a huge opportunity to make some more cash....hell force $1.50 tips....sell lap dance tickets and if they go unused....that means the person either wasted cash for nothing, or he will be back.
As for $1 not enough at a strip club....ok next denomination we have is $5, which is like what $7.50 canadian? Were not talking lap dances here...were talking I saw you dance from across the room, here's a tip...lap dances are like $25+...per song which is what 3 minutes...
So if you remove singles were gonna tip coins...and $30 is not unexpected from a dance on stage...$30 in coins is hard to pick-up, it's heavy, and it isn't conveinant to carry...strip clubs will adopt something new...people can't afford to blow $5 tips left and right...and coins suck ass for that purpose. Besides if we tipped 5x as much strippers would be the highest paid workers in the nation....you would pray your daughter grew up to be a stripper...because she would make like...$200/hr
Just my thoughts.
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IMHO these are the only denominations we actually need...
0.10
0.25
1.00
5.00
20.00
100.00
And to be honest unless people start accepting $100's they can discontinue those also....I hate getting them at the bank, they suck when you have to like buy a taco and taco bell won't accept your money...
P.S. I like tacos.
P.P.S. I think debit cards and drivers liscense should be the same card. I don't know how you would go about it but they should, and it should open my door and start my car too while your at it....I should be able to walk out the door with just that...
0.10
0.25
1.00
5.00
20.00
100.00
And to be honest unless people start accepting $100's they can discontinue those also....I hate getting them at the bank, they suck when you have to like buy a taco and taco bell won't accept your money...
P.S. I like tacos.
P.P.S. I think debit cards and drivers liscense should be the same card. I don't know how you would go about it but they should, and it should open my door and start my car too while your at it....I should be able to walk out the door with just that...
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Not to further derail this thread or anything, but having lived in Canada for awhile now, I have to say I really hate dollar coins. At first I thought they were kinda neat, but they're really just a monumental pain in the ass. The only thing I do like about them is the nicknames for them. There's something fun about calling your money loonies and twonies.
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I heard on the radio that the US has decided to redesign the 20 dollar bill, giving it a new color. They didn't say what color it would be though!
Anyone hear about this or can find an article?
The $20 bill is being changed.. not the $1 bill. Still, I dont like it. I don't really care $1 unless I get the change from something bigger, usually at a bar (yes im 19.. but my ID isnt), and I would be pissed if the bitch handed me a coin back. The last time I enjoy'd small change was the Kids in the Hall skit, "Butt Pennies". Long story short, the guy stuck 100s of pennies up his ass every day and then redistributed them so he would have "power" over the people that held his "butt pennies". I say, give everyone a god damned debit card and do away with the damn paper/coin currency. And if you are paranoid about big brother knowing where your money is going, make cards that carry a currency instead of having a debit account attached to it. So now all you gotta carry around is just a few fucking cards.. and no damn paper/coin currency.
BTW, VV store pwns. Wish i had some more damn credits.

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Edit: well hm, maybe they will be visible next time you log in? I dunno...the items I sold back (my cheesy white shadow and white glow on my title) didn't give my poitns back to me either. Not that I care.
Raistlin....they should redo our whole tax system...it's not fair, and its definately too complex for it's own good.
It costs us far too much money to pay taxes....I don't mean the taxes themselves, but I mean all the damn accountants in this world used to not only compute our taxes, but company taxes, to devise new tax law, all the form printing.....
Screw alchohol tax, cigarette, gas, luxury, gambling, inheritance, sales, income, car......just give me one stupid percentage....I make X dollars how much do I owe?
How I spend it is my own damn business. No write-offs, no extra taxes....if you have kids, that's YOUR decision....write-offs? Shit I pay for thier damn education...you write them off? Luxury tax? What? I thought they had extra taxes already if they made enough to buy luxuries, otheriwse it's just creative money managment, they ate peanutt butter and jelly so they could afford a cadallac at the same salary as me, that was thier decision, I wouldn't penalize them further for it.
I want to sit down and know what I paid in taxes for the year with 5 minutes and a calculator....no outside help. This shouldn't be so complicated.
My company has people devoted to various taxes, I have to hire people to do mine, the gov't pays people to figure my stuff is correct or not, the place I spend my money at has people to do it, my grandfather has people devoted to figuring out how to get more then half of his already 50% taxed cash to get to me....yeah they want 75% and another 7% shen I spend it...so 82% And another 5% or so just to figure out how to make sure they don't take it all...
Taxes are stupid the way the are now.
As for cheap items like vending machine candy and such....life savers will just have 2 more or less ina roll so they can sell at 50 or 75 cents instead of 68 cents.....no biggie.
Edit: well hm, maybe they will be visible next time you log in? I dunno...the items I sold back (my cheesy white shadow and white glow on my title) didn't give my poitns back to me either. Not that I care.
Raistlin....they should redo our whole tax system...it's not fair, and its definately too complex for it's own good.
It costs us far too much money to pay taxes....I don't mean the taxes themselves, but I mean all the damn accountants in this world used to not only compute our taxes, but company taxes, to devise new tax law, all the form printing.....
Screw alchohol tax, cigarette, gas, luxury, gambling, inheritance, sales, income, car......just give me one stupid percentage....I make X dollars how much do I owe?
How I spend it is my own damn business. No write-offs, no extra taxes....if you have kids, that's YOUR decision....write-offs? Shit I pay for thier damn education...you write them off? Luxury tax? What? I thought they had extra taxes already if they made enough to buy luxuries, otheriwse it's just creative money managment, they ate peanutt butter and jelly so they could afford a cadallac at the same salary as me, that was thier decision, I wouldn't penalize them further for it.
I want to sit down and know what I paid in taxes for the year with 5 minutes and a calculator....no outside help. This shouldn't be so complicated.
My company has people devoted to various taxes, I have to hire people to do mine, the gov't pays people to figure my stuff is correct or not, the place I spend my money at has people to do it, my grandfather has people devoted to figuring out how to get more then half of his already 50% taxed cash to get to me....yeah they want 75% and another 7% shen I spend it...so 82% And another 5% or so just to figure out how to make sure they don't take it all...
Taxes are stupid the way the are now.
As for cheap items like vending machine candy and such....life savers will just have 2 more or less ina roll so they can sell at 50 or 75 cents instead of 68 cents.....no biggie.
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There have been many people trying to get a flat tax installed. A better system in my opinion is no income tax at all and a use tax instead. Use taxes are like sales taxes. I would say make a 15-20% sales tax on everything. The more you buy then the more you are taxed. That way rich people aren't forced to pay an unfair share.
The biggest problem isn't the taxes being stolen from us though. It is how they are being used. Wasting $15 billion on AIDS in africa, $4 billion to Israel and Egypt, $750 million to Arafat. Untold billions to everyone else is pretty rediculous. What has supporting Israel gotten us? A lot of really pissed off muslims. Cutting that shit in half would allow us to lower our debts and cut our taxes. The U.S. government is a bloated pig that is slowly strangling itself on it's own pork.
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The biggest problem isn't the taxes being stolen from us though. It is how they are being used. Wasting $15 billion on AIDS in africa, $4 billion to Israel and Egypt, $750 million to Arafat. Untold billions to everyone else is pretty rediculous. What has supporting Israel gotten us? A lot of really pissed off muslims. Cutting that shit in half would allow us to lower our debts and cut our taxes. The U.S. government is a bloated pig that is slowly strangling itself on it's own pork.
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Heh, well I assume these dollars will be like other currency where you pull out the big bills and end up with tonsof little ones like you do pennies and nickles. IE I might already have some laying around....but be unable to get to them while I'm sitting down at a drive thru.miir wrote:I like the canadian $1/2 dollar coins.
Mathematics isn't your strong point is it?I just am not willing to carry $10 in coins around because I bought a taco from taco bell and got back all sorts of heavy crap-ass change back.
Ever try to get coins out of your front jean pocket at a drive thru? Near impossible.
So its not a math question....that's why it doesn't add up, it's a logical result none the less.
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Tanga LoungeRansure wrote:Miir! Give me some VV's!!!!!!! I am poor!
Are we talking about strip clubs here? cause if we are, if you havent been to Deja'Vu in Nashville, youve never been to a strip club....
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like Clearwater or petersburg, florida.....That's a crazy club...crazier then Mons Venus in Tampa.
Th Deja Vu in Minneapolis during the fan faire was a pretty nice establishment....not crazy, just nice.
Most of the other ones I went to sucked all around...incl deja vu here...I mean it's fun like 1x a year maybe...but it's defiantely not the same. I try not to go locally anyway...I save it for vacations when my friends want to go, prevents me from making it a habit.
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Would have to be bigger, that's designed for penny, nickle, dime and quarters....this would need to hold $1 coins...Cartalas wrote:I cant picture strippers having to wear these.
On the other hand they could just use a bag....they don't need to make change....it doesn't have to be organized.
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only time i've used plastic at a strip joint was in college. They had an ATM that dispensed "Lipstix Bucks" (basically monopoly money).Cartalas wrote:Now I can not even imagine where they would hide the Magnetic Reader?Voronwë wrote:i use plastic for about 90% of my transactions anyways, so i dont give a fuck
Anyways, i left there (somehow) w/ $20 worht.
thankfully, a "business associate" i had a transaction with that weekend also accepted Lipstix Bucks, so they didnt go to waste
