As someone who was against the war...

Mezzmor · Post by **Mezzmor** » April 9, 2003, 6:19 pm

Tears came to my eyes today seeing all of the footage of the happy people of Iraq today.

I am very happy for the Iraqi people. Today, the people were given a gift that very few people in the middle east have. They were given a gift so great, yet so taken for granted by those of us who have it.

It made me think for a minute how powerful a gift freedom is. I don't agree with the US government stance on a lot of things. Today, however is one of those rare days when we should all look at our lives and realize how lucky we are as a people that we have the freedom we have. Not just freedom of speech, the press, to own firearms, etc...I am talking about the freedom from the tyranny and religious persecution that so many people on earth are forced to live with.

I sincerely hope that the people of Iraq succeed on their trek for freedom and self government.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 9, 2003, 6:25 pm

they weren't free before? if they weren't then in what ways weren't they?

Iraq is by far the most most moderate of the middle eastern countries. Except for maybe Kuwait and that other tiny oil nation who's name escapes me.

Iraq had freedom to practice whatever religion you choose, independent media and lots of rights that most other arab nations don't have.

There are FAR FAR FAR worse governments in the middle east than Iraq's ba'ath party.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » April 9, 2003, 6:29 pm

kyoukan wrote:they weren't free before? if they weren't then in what ways weren't they?

Tell it to the Kurds, cuntwart...

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » April 9, 2003, 6:37 pm

UAE and Bahrain are by far the most moderate countries in the Middle East. In both countries it is legal to buy pork and alcohol. In UAE women can drive and work. UAE (Dubai specifically) is about as westernized as you can get.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » April 9, 2003, 6:38 pm

kyoukan wrote:they weren't free before? if they weren't then in what ways weren't they?

Iraq is by far the most most moderate of the middle eastern countries. Except for maybe Kuwait and that other tiny oil nation who's name escapes me.

Iraq had freedom to practice whatever religion you choose, independent media and lots of rights that most other arab nations don't have.

There are FAR FAR FAR worse governments in the middle east than Iraq's ba'ath party.

OMG PASS THE BONG I WANT SOME OF THAT SHIT YOU ARE SMOKING!!!!!!

Mezzmor · Post by **Mezzmor** » April 9, 2003, 6:57 pm

kyoukan wrote:they weren't free before? if they weren't then in what ways weren't they?

Iraq is by far the most most moderate of the middle eastern countries. Except for maybe Kuwait and that other tiny oil nation who's name escapes me.

Iraq had freedom to practice whatever religion you choose, independent media and lots of rights that most other arab nations don't have.

There are FAR FAR FAR worse governments in the middle east than Iraq's ba'ath party.

My guess here is that if Bill Clinton disavowed any elections at the end of his term, proclaimed himself the ruler of Amerika, sent the CIA after any detractors, put children in prisons for not joining the Clinton Youth, gassed South Beach to eradicate the Jews, re-established the draft and threatened to kill the families of anyone who chose not to fight that as long as we were a moderate society its all ok.

Wow, what a clueless dumbfuck. Your idea of freedom absolutely frightens me. My only hope is that you are a convicted felon that has lost your civil right to ever go near a voting booth, let alone cast a ballot.

Fizzlewhip · Post by **Fizzlewhip** » April 9, 2003, 7:02 pm

The advances across Iraq were hailed by Barham Salih, the prime minister in the region of northern Iraq run by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.
“It will mean a new opportunity, a new lease on life,” he said Wednesday. “We have had 80 years of misery locked up in this Iraqi state, ruled by tyrant after another, culmination in this vicious dictator which is unique to human history. We hope that with the demise of Saddam Hussein we can aspire to building a new nation of Iraq that is democratic, that is federal and that is at peace with the people of Iraq.”

http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?vts=040920031440

Yeah. Those words sound like they are coming from someone who was free before we got there.

*edit* of course those are the Kurds.

Spangaloid_PE · Post by **Spangaloid_PE** » April 9, 2003, 7:04 pm

Iraqis were cheering long before we entered Baghdad.

Bumbaz · Post by **Bumbaz** » April 9, 2003, 7:05 pm

Yah this sounded like a groovy place to live when Saddam was in power. I wish we had a place in the U.S. like this... read on

Saddam's crimes and human rights abuse From the Foreign & Commonwealth Office in London

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 9, 2003, 7:07 pm

Shaerra wrote:
Tell it to the Kurds, cuntwart...

which kurds? the ones that claimed the entire northern half of Iraq along with half the oil fields an independent country? your knowledge of how the world operates is pretty fucking vapid, do you really want to get into a debate with me about it?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » April 9, 2003, 8:17 pm

damn kyokan thats pretty fucking retarded, maybe iraq is one of the best middle eastern countrys...but all those countrys governments blow ass

I went to morocco once for a day, i believe its considered to be a bit more "advanced" then other middle eastern muslim countrys...and going there was the most depressing, sad thing i have seen in a long long time. People lived in cracks on the side of the street they called homes maybe 1/4th the size of your bathroom, they shit on the streets, were starving and there piss ass "presedent" had his picture on every streetcorner just like saddam, 6 or 7 palaces with solid gold shitters and maybe a few hundred servants, by the time i got back on the boat i wanted to kill that greedy motherfucker

That isnt "freedom" and id sure as fuck love to see you try to live the life that the average Iraqi has been living and see what the fuck you say after that.

As far as the war i was pretty unbiased, and the only legit reason for going to war with Iraq was to free the iraqi people, i dont know how much there world can change after the invasion, or a lot of unbiased facts about the Saddam regime, but THAT is not fucking freedom, dumbass.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 9, 2003, 8:32 pm

morocco is in africa there, mr. worldly. it's also a monarchy and doesn't have a president or even a presedent. I'm sure you knew that though, being that you've been there and everything and know so much about morocco.

and if it is such a depraved shithole, why don't you go liberate them?

Spangaloid_PE · Post by **Spangaloid_PE** » April 9, 2003, 8:35 pm

kyoukan wrote:morocco is in africa there, mr. worldly. it's also a monarchy. and if it is such a depraved shithole, why don't you go liberate them?

Africa doesn't have any middle eastern countries?

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » April 9, 2003, 8:36 pm

Bumbaz wrote:Yah this sounded like a groovy place to live when Saddam was in power. I wish we had a place in the U.S. like this... read on

Saddam's crimes and human rights abuse From the Foreign & Commonwealth Office in London

Name this country
30 million don't have enough to eat
6 million homeless
40 million no health coverage
2 million imprisoned and 1 in 32 people nationwide imprisoned or on probation/parole
The country with the highest poverty rate in the "industrialized world"
Murder rate 5 times higher then the rest of the "industrialized nation"
Currently holding 600 detainees from 42 countries and denying them POW status and therefor not allowing them POW rights as stated under the geneva convention
3,692 on death row

Much easier to point the finger outside your yard then look in your own backyard huh... btw, I am more then slightly isolationist by nature, I think we waste OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of money abroad and fail to fix OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of our own problems, and our human rights record is nothing to brag about (I won't go into the cases of forced confessions, abuse of power and torture by our police). Just my overly opionated opinion.

Mezzmor · Post by **Mezzmor** » April 9, 2003, 8:37 pm

kyoukan wrote:morocco is in africa there, mr. worldly. it's also a monarchy. and if it is such a depraved shithole, why don't you go liberate them?

You've completely blown a gasket.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » April 9, 2003, 8:38 pm

Spangaloid_PE wrote:
kyoukan wrote:morocco is in africa there, mr. worldly. it's also a monarchy. and if it is such a depraved shithole, why don't you go liberate them?
Africa doesn't have any middle eastern countries?

Technically no, it does have OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of Islamic countries tho. Egypt does go to the middle east summits (so does Lybia) but those really should be called Islamic Summits because that is what they are.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » April 9, 2003, 8:39 pm

I never said Morocco was in the middle east. But it is a 3rd world muslim nation and can be compared to other middle eastern countrys, yeehaw.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 9, 2003, 8:42 pm

Spangaloid_PE wrote:Africa doesn't have any middle eastern countries?

are you a moron?

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 9, 2003, 8:43 pm

Xzion wrote:I never said Morocco was in the middle east. But it is a 3rd world muslim nation and can be compared to other middle eastern countrys, yeehaw.

bizzaro Xzion wrote:i believe its considered to be a bit more "advanced" then other middle eastern muslim countrys

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » April 9, 2003, 8:44 pm

A small strip of egypt just east of kairo is technically in the middle east.

"other middle eastern countrys" as in other countrys, specifically in the middle east, maybe the grammer is off a bit but you can find better shit then that to flame me with, please

Spangaloid_PE · Post by **Spangaloid_PE** » April 9, 2003, 8:45 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Spangaloid_PE wrote:Africa doesn't have any middle eastern countries?
are you a moron?

i always thought egypt was a middle eastern country.

you thought Iraq was a free country, so who's the bigger moron?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » April 9, 2003, 8:46 pm

Spang has a good, good point

Alfan · Post by **Alfan** » April 9, 2003, 8:47 pm

Regardless of whether they were a progressive Islamic state or Middle Eastern state, they certainly didn't share the amounts of freedom that people in the United States (generally) do. Or even the freedom of our communist neighbors to the North

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Hopefully they will choose to embrace their new found freedom in a productive way. Best of luck to Iraq and the American contracters that will benefit from their strife

Alfan Fat

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 9, 2003, 8:53 pm

They will probably democratically elect another ba'ath party politico or an even worse dictator under the thumb of the ayatollah of Iraq. Unless of course the US just decides to drop an 800 lb. laser guided bomb on every single person that runs for president until the only one left is one of dick cheney's golf buddies. HOORAY FOR DEMOCRACY

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » April 9, 2003, 9:06 pm

For the geographically retarded that actually think Morocco is a Middle Eastern country, it's not. In fact, it's no where near the Mid East.

I just wanted to clear that up.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 9, 2003, 9:42 pm

the futility of arguing about the middle east on a messageboard filled with morons that don't even know what the middle east is, is not lost on me!

Alfan · Post by **Alfan** » April 9, 2003, 10:23 pm

Why use 800lbs. bombs when we have MOAB?

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » April 10, 2003, 1:39 am

kyoukan wrote:they weren't free before? if they weren't then in what ways weren't they?

Iraq is by far the most most moderate of the middle eastern countries. Except for maybe Kuwait and that other tiny oil nation who's name escapes me.

Iraq had freedom to practice whatever religion you choose, independent media and lots of rights that most other arab nations don't have.

There are FAR FAR FAR worse governments in the middle east than Iraq's ba'ath party.

I think this post should be carved on Kooky's gravestone.

I happen to believe in Satan. I figure Satan was giggling uncontrollably when he read this.

"Please allow me to introduce myself..."

Spangaloid_PE · Post by **Spangaloid_PE** » April 10, 2003, 1:43 am

Metanis wrote:
kyoukan wrote:they weren't free before? if they weren't then in what ways weren't they?

Iraq is by far the most most moderate of the middle eastern countries. Except for maybe Kuwait and that other tiny oil nation who's name escapes me.

Iraq had freedom to practice whatever religion you choose, independent media and lots of rights that most other arab nations don't have.

There are FAR FAR FAR worse governments in the middle east than Iraq's ba'ath party.
I think this post should be carved on Kooky's gravestone.

I happen to believe in Satan. I figure Satan was giggling uncontrollably when he read this.

"Please allow me to introduce myself..."

i bet someone flames you for worshiping saten.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » April 10, 2003, 1:51 am

The country with the highest poverty rate in the "industrialized world"

You are aware that the definition of poverty in this country allows you to own a TV, a car and eat TV dinners every night, right?

I think you better do a little more research before you go throwing around assumptions, bub.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » April 10, 2003, 2:00 am

Metanis wrote:I think this post should be carved on Kooky's gravestone.

I happen to believe in Satan. I figure Satan was giggling uncontrollably when he read this.

"Please allow me to introduce myself..."

No uh-uh sorry you're wrong.

Braxter · Post by **Braxter** » April 10, 2003, 8:00 am

Spangaloid_PE wrote: i bet someone flames you for worshiping saten.

not so much for worshiping or even believing in satan as believing that he reads vv.

that's pretty retarded.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » April 10, 2003, 9:33 am

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » April 10, 2003, 9:40 am

Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Bumbaz wrote:Yah this sounded like a groovy place to live when Saddam was in power. I wish we had a place in the U.S. like this... read on

Saddam's crimes and human rights abuse From the Foreign & Commonwealth Office in London
Name this country
30 million don't have enough to eat
6 million homeless
40 million no health coverage
2 million imprisoned and 1 in 32 people nationwide imprisoned or on probation/parole
The country with the highest poverty rate in the "industrialized world"
Murder rate 5 times higher then the rest of the "industrialized nation"
Currently holding 600 detainees from 42 countries and denying them POW status and therefor not allowing them POW rights as stated under the geneva convention
3,692 on death row

Much easier to point the finger outside your yard then look in your own backyard huh... btw, I am more then slightly isolationist by nature, I think we waste OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of money abroad and fail to fix OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of our own problems, and our human rights record is nothing to brag about (I won't go into the cases of forced confessions, abuse of power and torture by our police). Just my overly opionated opinion.

Pherr the 600 Detainees are part of a criminal investigation and as far as im concerned they are doing this to find Osama Bin Ladin. If you dont like it well tell them to stop flying airplanes into our buildings.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » April 10, 2003, 9:52 am

I think it was pretty cool too Mezz. Regardless of whether or not Iraq's gov't was considered "moderate" by middle east standards, the people sure seemed excited by his ousting.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » April 10, 2003, 9:55 am

Pherr the Dorf wrote: Currently holding 600 detainees from 42 countries and denying them POW status and therefor not allowing them POW rights as stated under the geneva convention

You should have seen and heard what death sounded like on 9-11 in person. Fuck you for thinking terrorists deserve anything under ANY kind of convention. Idiot

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » April 10, 2003, 10:20 am

Don't be an arse. They're still human, there is 'due process' for all crimes no matter how heinous.

The prisoners at Guantanamo were taken in a war and should be treated as POWs IMO. Otherwise it might (just might) be interpreted as yet another example of the US's selective approach to international law and convention.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » April 10, 2003, 10:22 am

You mean that in 2 years they haven't had time to thouroughly question 600 people about their alleged involvment in 9/11??

Eventually it's either they charge these people with something or they release them and get sued up the ying yang for unlawful confinment and the govt has to make reperations to these people using taxpayer's money.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » April 10, 2003, 10:22 am

vn_Tanc wrote:Don't be an arse. They're still human, there is 'due process' for all crimes no matter how heinous.

The prisoners at Guantanamo were taken in a war and should be treated as POWs IMO. Otherwise it might (just might) be interpreted as yet another example of the US's selective approach to international law and convention.

Im sure we are treating them better then they deserve, or better then most countries would. So STFU

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » April 10, 2003, 10:31 am

How in holy living fuck do you know what's going on in there? Christ Cart, does your brain contain the circuitry required for thinking or are you just some experimental biological photocopier?

The detainees at Guantanamo MAY be being treated better or they MAY be being tortured - we don't know because without Geneva Convention protection the Red Cross aren't allowed in to verify the conditions.

So again all we have is the word of your government. That may be good enough for a cocksmoker such as yourself but it's pretty fuckin far short of the mark for the rest of the world.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » April 10, 2003, 11:09 am

He lives in a magical world with mythical creatures like fairies and eskimos.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » April 10, 2003, 11:17 am

vn_Tanc wrote:How in holy living fuck do you know what's going on in there? Christ Cart, does your brain contain the circuitry required for thinking or are you just some experimental biological photocopier?

The detainees at Guantanamo MAY be being treated better or they MAY be being tortured - we don't know because without Geneva Convention protection the Red Cross aren't allowed in to verify the conditions.

So again all we have is the word of your government. That may be good enough for a cocksmoker such as yourself but it's pretty fuckin far short of the mark for the rest of the world.

Why dont you tell me how they are being treated, Since you have the inside info.

You know what I couldnt care less how the criminals are being treated.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » April 10, 2003, 11:30 am

I don't know how they're being treated. That's the point. If verification isn't allowed you invite speculation. I'm prepared to accept they're being treated acceptably but that's just me. Many millions more aren't, and will assume the worst. And that might impact on the safety of US POWs now and in the future.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » April 10, 2003, 11:34 am

vn_Tanc wrote:I don't know how they're being treated. That's the point. If verification isn't allowed you invite speculation. I'm prepared to accept they're being treated acceptably but that's just me. Many millions more aren't, and will assume the worst. And that might impact on the safety of US POWs now and in the future.

I saw how the American POW's were treated in Iraq you the US to play by a set of rules and not other countries.

Fizzlewhip · Post by **Fizzlewhip** » April 10, 2003, 11:41 am

Yeah, omg, we can't see what is going on in Camp X-ray. try doing a web search.

MY GOD! WE ARE SO INHUMANE! LOOK AT HOW WE ARE TREATING THEM!!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static ... ransit.stm
When the prisoners arrived at Camp X-Ray they were wearing blindfolds, ear muffs and face masks, which US authorities say were necessary for security and their wellbeing during transit.
However, human rights groups described these measures as ‘sensory deprivation’, raising fears that the level of restraint was unnecessary and inhumane.

US authorities say these measures are used only in transit, and are not a feature of routine life.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static ... y/cell.stm
The prisoners are being detained in temporary open-sided wire cells until a permanent facility has been constructed.
Sized 1.8m by 2.4m, these have been described as 'kennels' and 'cages' by critics and dubbed 'a scandal' by a Human Rights Watch spokesman.

The prisoners are not shackled when they are inside their cells. But when they are moved around the camp, for showers or exercise, they are restrained at a 'level appropriate for the person' - which may include hand and leg shackles.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static ... ay/kit.stm
Each prisoner has been given:

US army standard-issue 2cm-thick foam sleeping mat
One blanket
Two buckets (one for water, one for waste)
A one quart flask
Two orange boiler suits
A pair of flip-flops
Two bath towels (one for washing, one for use as a prayer mat)
A washcloth
Toothpaste
Soap
Shampoo
A copy of the Koran
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static ... /meals.stm
Prisoners are served three meals a day, all of which are "culturally appropriate":

Breakfast - typically bread, cream cheese, an orange, a pastry, a roll, a bottle of water

Lunch - typically a box of cereal, two cereal bars, a packet of peanuts, one packet of crisps, one packet of raisins, a bottle of water

Evening meal - typically white rice, red beans, a banana, bread, a bottle of water
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static ... outine.stm
Breakfast followed by 'shower opportunity and personal time'

Doctor visits to address any medical issues

Lunch

Exercise period

Mail call - pens and paper are provided, letters may be written under supervision, pens are collected afterwards

Evening meal

So other than being in a prison like setting (and some are criminals), they get: 3 square meals a day, personal time, religious materials. The only quams people have are the restraints and goggles/ear muff things as they arrive and are transported.

Never mind that some have been release because it has been determined that they have nothing to do with the taliban

Never mind that the aggression in Afghanistan was not officially referred to as a war on that country,but rather as a "war on terrorism". Kinda like the terms "War on Poverty" and "War on drugs". Unless you want to start conferring POW status on poor people and drug dealers.

Salis · Post by **Salis** » April 10, 2003, 12:17 pm

Cartalas wrote:
vn_Tanc wrote:I don't know how they're being treated. That's the point. If verification isn't allowed you invite speculation. I'm prepared to accept they're being treated acceptably but that's just me. Many millions more aren't, and will assume the worst. And that might impact on the safety of US POWs now and in the future.

I saw how the American POW's were treated in Iraq you the US to play by a set of rules and not other countries.

Stop trolling shithead

How can you compare the standards Iraq keeps prisoners to the standard the US does. Does the fact a third world brutal regime does that to prisoners justify the US doing it? Or doesn't your mighty country aspire to be better? If only your founding fathers could hear you, they put you straight back on the boat.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » April 10, 2003, 12:19 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:How in holy living fuck do you know what's going on in there? Christ Cart, does your brain contain the circuitry required for thinking or are you just some experimental biological photocopier?

The detainees at Guantanamo MAY be being treated better or they MAY be being tortured - we don't know because without Geneva Convention protection the Red Cross aren't allowed in to verify the conditions.

So again all we have is the word of your government. That may be good enough for a cocksmoker such as yourself but it's pretty fuckin far short of the mark for the rest of the world.

They deserve whatever they get. Fuck off. Lose some friends, run away from the wtc, duck when the 2nd plane flies 800 ft over your head, watch innocent workers jump. So again, Fuck off. I'd like to watch them rot for what they did. They deserve nothing

Salis · Post by **Salis** » April 10, 2003, 12:21 pm

Fizzlewhip wrote: Never mind that the aggression in Afghanistan was not officially referred to as a war on that country,but rather as a "war on terrorism". Kinda like the terms "War on Poverty" and "War on drugs". Unless you want to start conferring POW status on poor people and drug dealers.

Maybe somewhere in your meagre education you missed the part where attacking a sovereign nation is defined as 'War' in an international law sense, regardless of what current buzz-word your government tags on it. Man I can just imagine how hard people would be laughing if you stood up and tried to argue in any kind of serious forum or debate on this.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » April 10, 2003, 12:29 pm

Salis wrote:
Cartalas wrote:
vn_Tanc wrote:I don't know how they're being treated. That's the point. If verification isn't allowed you invite speculation. I'm prepared to accept they're being treated acceptably but that's just me. Many millions more aren't, and will assume the worst. And that might impact on the safety of US POWs now and in the future.

I saw how the American POW's were treated in Iraq you the US to play by a set of rules and not other countries.
Stop trolling shithead

How can you compare the standards Iraq keeps prisoners to the standard the US does. Does the fact a third world brutal regime does that to prisoners justify the US doing it? Or doesn't your mighty country aspire to be better? If only your founding fathers could hear you, they put you straight back on the boat.

Lick me you Kilt wearing Bitch, I made a statement to the fact that I couldnt care in the least how the CRIMINALS are being treated, and do I think Americans need to set a higher standred then the rest of the world, but I get sick and tired at all those 3rd world countries like Scotland bitching and moaning about what we do and not getting involved in what the real problem is.

Salis · Post by **Salis** » April 10, 2003, 12:41 pm

Wow and I just thought you were trying to be a half-wit.

I thought the was 'innocent until proven guilty.' If they're guilty why aren't they on trial? No wait they're PoW's, no wait they're not. Again nice conscience there, I remember the U.S. criticising the Russians for holding 'terrorists' without trial. Sad to see you're so easily blinded by bullshit and your opinions manipulated by your government.

but I get sick and tired at all those 3rd world countries like Scotland bitching and moaning about what we do and not getting involved in what the real problem is.

Scotland = part of UK = part of the coalition (involved I'd say). Also one of the biggest economies in Europe. Hint: read, get educated, makes you look less of a stupid fuckstick.

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