Thanks Drinsic.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » March 28, 2003, 12:19 pm

Well, if PE was there in force, clearing to statue, and got trained by Fiend Club who was pullin Tormax from LoV with Farstorm's Clerics, then the Idol and AoW clearly belong to...wait, it was on a Thursday?

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 12:22 pm

Shaerra wrote:Well, if PE was there in force, clearing to statue, and got trained by Fiend Club who was pullin Tormax from LoV with Farstorm's Clerics, then the Idol and AoW clearly belong to...wait, it was on a Thursday?

Exactly!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » March 28, 2003, 12:37 pm

my question is who SPAWNED THE STATUE?

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » March 28, 2003, 12:38 pm

Voronwë wrote:my question is who SPAWNED THE STATUE?

I think it was one of the 3 Little Pigs that killed Tormax and spawned Vindi.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 12:52 pm

Voro, the answer is in my post.

I'll clarify:

Farstorm had about 25-30 people in Kael clearing to Statue.

LOV showed up when it was 95% cleared for pull.

As Farstorm was on their last pull before Protectors, Tarrus trained us with about 8 mobs.

LOV openly mocked Farstorm as we we're killing off his intentional train.

While we were killling off the train, LOV pulled Statue.

Idol was up for about 15 minutes without being engaged when the desicion was made by the Farstorm raid leader to pull it.

Idol was killed by Farstorm and as soon as AOW popped it was engaged by our puller.

So you could say that LOV was entitled to the Idol/AOW spawn because they spawned it..
BUT
If Tarrus had not intentionally trained the Farstorm camp that was there (in force, before any other groups), the Statue would have been pulled and killed by Farstorm.

Farstorm has been a respectable guild on Veeshan for close to 3 years.
One incident of shit slinging over a botched steamroll by LOV will not ruin our reputation.
Our raid leaders are always courteous and respectful to other guilds. If your choose not to respect them in return (by shit talking and intentional training) you will not be granted any respect or courtesy.

As far as I am concerned this is a non issue.

If anyone in LOV has an issue with Farstorm over this incident, have your guildleader or one of your officers bring it up with Resurrector.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » March 28, 2003, 1:04 pm

miir, he was joking

You don't spawn statue.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » March 28, 2003, 1:07 pm

Voronwë wrote:my question is who SPAWNED THE STATUE?

Noone, it was given to us by the French.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » March 28, 2003, 1:12 pm

Voronwë wrote:my question is who SPAWNED THE STATUE?

It was Col. Mustard in the library with the lead pipe of course

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 1:14 pm

Vetiria wrote:miir, he was joking You don't spawn statue.

Hehe..

Distracted this morning, thought I read Idol.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 28, 2003, 1:15 pm

miir wrote:
Vetiria wrote:miir, he was joking You don't spawn statue.
Hehe..

Distracted this morning, thought I read Idol.

My Idol pops for ya Miir

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 1:21 pm

Cartalas wrote:
miir wrote:
Vetiria wrote:miir, he was joking You don't spawn statue.
Hehe..

Distracted this morning, thought I read Idol.

My Idol pops for ya Miir

*slurp*

Coraz · Post by **Coraz** » March 28, 2003, 1:30 pm

Anyone else want to tell a story of being trained by PE?

Once in an old guild, PE couldn't stand us getting a mob before us, so they actually managed to mem blur KS the IV, ninja the loots and then sent one of their bards to train on us, then train again while CRing.. go figure.

Plus training on us tonight.

Good thing I didn't join PE when I had the chance, 1 day before this incident... actually it would have been fun, because then I could cuss you out in guild chat Atokal. Sorry Nitlaar

Way to make my name a cute little insult too, you're so clever, how long did it take you to think that up? Or did you ask 1 of 50,000 people that thought of it before you? I don't see how I'm stirring shit up between guilds, as I'm not in one. I just hate you and I'm making fun of you because it makes me feel better.

I don't know where you get the idea that I am trying to make you hate Farstorm, you are dumb for jumping to the conclusion that I am. ... And since you're wrong.. .your post doesn't make sense now... so stop filling my memories with your useless prate.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » March 28, 2003, 1:39 pm

miir just a joke about a Statue dispute from another time

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 1:54 pm

Atokal wrote:
Coraz wrote:PE has a history of training people when stuff doesn't go their way.
Coraz care to name the times PE has trained? You have some fine people in your guild and that is the reason I will withhold the flaming you as an individual so richly deserve.

Coraz left Farstorm a bit over a month ago, he's guildless at the moment. Coraz's affiliation at the raid was the FiendClub group.

Oh, and, Guru is right, the main reason that we aren't considered kill stealers is definately because it was a Thursday!

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 1:58 pm

Voronwë wrote:miir just a joke about a Statue dispute from another time

My brain is not working properly today.
I sat down on the couch at about 8 last night and fell asleep for 4 hours.... Played Morrowind for about 3 hours then went back to sleep... I think my brain is in weekend mode already.

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 1:59 pm

Oh, and one more thing Coraz, I wouldn't necessarily call PE trainers because of tonight (other incidents I won't talk about though, I've just had no problems with 'em); Tarrus is the one that trained us, and it wasn't a decision made that included PE leadership. If anything, the decision was made on his own in an egotistic attempt to "beat us to a spawn". LoV leadership, as a whole, is quite respectable (Soes, Tendaven, Sirton, most notably), and this doesn't seem in character for any of them to decide to do. Then again, I could be wrong, but I'd be willing to be this was a decision Tarrus made on his own, which his guild now pays for.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » March 28, 2003, 2:00 pm

Masters Of Orion 3 is robbing me of sleep right now. And Metroid arrived today ><.
Busy weekend ahead!

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 2:05 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:Masters Of Orion 3 is robbing me of sleep right now. And Metroid arrived today ><.
Busy weekend ahead!

I heard mixed reviews on MOO3.
I have fond memories of MOO and MOO2 and I don't want to spoil them if MOO3 is sub par.

Oreck · Post by **Oreck** » March 28, 2003, 2:11 pm

Who did what??

Take a breath and count to ten..........

Now think......._......._......._

Is this really getting your anywhere?

?

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 2:12 pm

Anyone gonna fight yet?>

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » March 28, 2003, 2:14 pm

I remember the good ole days when threads like this didn't consist of 90% 'dewd speak'. Sad days indeed!

Your clerics started spamming heals left and right, then clicking people back in as the fight was going, so they'd take low HP aggro and end up with multiple corpses

I'm not sure how Verant coded it to work but I don't remember a time I ever got low HP aggro while coming back in from a res.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » March 28, 2003, 2:21 pm

only if you are rezzed right under the mob has it ever happened to me. a midfight mob has a thoroughly established hate list that a dead guy isnt on.

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 2:22 pm

Voronwë wrote:only if you are rezzed right under the mob has it ever happened to me. a midfight mob has a thoroughly established hate list that a dead guy isnt on.

and you have to be a ranger

devereaux · Post by **devereaux** » March 28, 2003, 2:41 pm

Ressurrector is a friggin deuschbag. I've dealt with him in NTOV when he would train our raid intentionally, but nevertheless we beat him to our targets. It's what happens when you put people in a confined area and expect them to be civil about who gets what. One guild cannot have a legitimate shot at a mob if another guild is in the same zone waiting for the same mob. It just doesn't happen that way, never has. You want to avoid conflict, reach some agreement where the other guild has to leave the zone. That's the only way.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » March 28, 2003, 2:44 pm

devereaux wrote:Ressurrector is a friggin deuschbag. I've dealt with him in NTOV when he would train our raid intentionally, but nevertheless we beat him to our targets. It's what happens when you put people in a confined area and expect them to be civil about who gets what. One guild cannot have a legitimate shot at a mob if another guild is in the same zone waiting for the same mob. It just doesn't happen that way, never has. You want to avoid conflict, reach some agreement where the other guild has to leave the zone. That's the only way.

Yea like that whole civil RoW zland thing huh devereaux.
Not that I like RoW at all, but glass houses and stones you know the deal devereaux.

In other words shut your pie hole if you don't know what you are talking about and have done the exact thing you are blaming other folks for.

devereaux · Post by **devereaux** » March 28, 2003, 2:50 pm

Civil Rune of War conflict? I was retired at the time, somebody was 2 boxing me. I have an idea, why don't you go back to your old name Council, Anvil, whoeverthefuckyouwere, and pretend this didn't even happen like you're always told to do by Resurrectum when you fuck up other people's raids.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » March 28, 2003, 2:54 pm

Whatever you say dev.

If your brain is too small to remember it was the instance that coined the "IXTLAN IS THE SCUM OF VEESHAN" soundbite.
And I believe you were quite vocal in the thread where Ixtlan and RoW fought about it.

But if you want to play the "It was my cousins, aunts, next-door neighbors, step-sons, girlfriends, lesbian lover posting as me" card thats cool.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 2:56 pm

Maybe it was Elderan

Damiarch · Post by **Damiarch** » March 28, 2003, 2:57 pm

I blame Wambus, what an asshole, wont even let me borrow his pipe to smoke a little weed, fuck you die! You and your stupid FC

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » March 28, 2003, 3:14 pm

It would distress you to know that during his time in LoV, Drinsic was elected to be an officer by everyone but.. TARRUS (this is what Drudge told me, so if this is inaccurate, my appologies)! Mainly because Tarrus became angry at him because he beat him in a duel, but that's a different story all together.

Fovol

This is very inaccurate...No one person has VETO POWER...Drinsic was talked about aye. I can only speak for myself though and the rules of LoV. Drinsic never had 2/3 vote to become an officer including never my vote, because I still wasnt sure if he truely changed from how he was when we booted him from CT. I guess he took not getting in personal and screwed w/ our boards, hackin em including removing an officer from having access and bashing the guild as he left.

I told about evey guild about this guy including Farstorm...how he will back stab ya(considered him a good friend before crap he pulled)...and how it may lead that guild into BS like your seeing on this board today..If Drinsic wasnt there would this be the same type issue? Dont think it would. He hates LoV and has done stuff to us since his departure including trying to break parts off us. And LoV can't stand him. I personally dont care to have anything against Farstorm, knew them as a good guild and always have gotten along with there GL Ressurector.

I wasnt at raid so dont know exactly what happened...but I know Drinsic never got 2/3 vote to become an officer, and I know theres very bad blood between LoV and Drinsic..not surprised to see this board spammed about issues dealing w/ him. Wish he would of just left LoV when he did w/ some sort of class, he upset OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of his old friends the way he did it.

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 3:19 pm

Then I retract my statement about that, as I said, that is what Drudge told me.

You're wrong, though, it was Resurrector's decision to pull AoW, as it was rightfully ours, after your guildmember trained us to purposely delay our pulling.

Drinsic didn't bash the guilds, he didn't hack to forums, and thusfar, not a single guild has cared about your attempted blackballing. You're bringing up six+ month old topics in a feeble attempt to bash Drinsic because he was in a guild that straight up beat you. No offense, but that's pretty weak.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 3:20 pm

Sirton sounds like a spurned ex-lover.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 28, 2003, 3:23 pm

sleestak can spawn statue.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » March 28, 2003, 3:25 pm

I remember Drinsic sigh

Tarrus > 99% of all EQ players
Drudge > 99.9999999999999999999999% of all EQ players

I find it funny that Farstorm is trying to be a respectable guild now heh. Same for PE. Of course things change in the flow of time.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » March 28, 2003, 3:31 pm

Kylere wrote:I remember Drinsic sigh

Tarrus > 99% of all EQ players
Drudge > 99.9999999999999999999999% of all EQ players

I find it funny that Farstorm is trying to be a respectable guild now heh. Same for PE. Of course things change in the flow of time.

you wouldn't know what a respectable guild was if one came up to you and gave you AIDS.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » March 28, 2003, 3:33 pm

Can you feel the loooovvveeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 3:33 pm

kyoukan type-R wrote:
Kylere wrote:I remember Drinsic sigh

Tarrus > 99% of all EQ players
Drudge > 99.9999999999999999999999% of all EQ players

I find it funny that Farstorm is trying to be a respectable guild now heh. Same for PE. Of course things change in the flow of time.
you wouldn't know what a respectable guild was if one came up to you and gave you AIDS.

Can't argue that statement

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » March 28, 2003, 3:46 pm

rofl Kyou

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » March 28, 2003, 3:50 pm

Then I retract my statement about that, as I said, that is what Drudge told me.

You're wrong, though, it was Resurrector's decision to pull AoW, as it was rightfully ours, after your guildmember trained us to purposely delay our pulling.

Drinsic didn't bash the guilds, he didn't hack to forums, and thusfar, not a single guild has cared about your attempted blackballing. You're bringing up six+ month old topics in a feeble attempt to bash Drinsic because he was in a guild that straight up beat you. No offense, but that's pretty weak.

I wasnt at the raid like I said before...I didnt argue either way on that and personally dont want to be involved in guild bashing. So your comment about being mad at Farstorm beating us to mob has no meaning...

You said a statement that was false and I had to backup my bro Tarrus. Cause there was a false statement put out about him and about LoV.

Just because someone got the info from a rl friend of a officer at the time doesnt mean it wasnt hacking. You used info that wasnt yours to disrupt a entire guild! What was done was sad, and to be honest most guilds told me after he did that NO WAY IN HELL theyll let him in there guild and they had there own stories about him too.

Also I didnt bring up that topic it was brought up earlier in the thread. And anyway it has connection to this whole thread. If he wasnt involved would any of this be at the level it is? Im not surprised to see bad things happen between our guilds the day I saw him with a tag. Also do we go around black balling everyone that left? NO only that guy, there must be a reason for it.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 4:18 pm

You said a statement that was false and I had to backup my bro Tarrus. Cause there was a false statement put out about him and about LoV.

Here's the irony.

If LOV had legitimately beaten Farstorm to Statue, we would have stepped back and let you have your kill.

You can thank your 'bro' Tarrus for intentionally trying to wipe our raid and taunt us in OOC for causing all this shit.

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 4:23 pm

miir wrote:
You said a statement that was false and I had to backup my bro Tarrus. Cause there was a false statement put out about him and about LoV.
Here's the irony.

If LOV had legitimately beaten Farstorm to Statue, we would have stepped back and let you have your kill.

You can thank your 'bro' Tarrus for intentionally trying to wipe our raid and taunt us in OOC for causing all this shit.

But wait, Tarrus is above 99% of all EQ players, this can't be.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 28, 2003, 4:25 pm

Gurugurumaki wrote:
miir wrote:
You said a statement that was false and I had to backup my bro Tarrus. Cause there was a false statement put out about him and about LoV.
Here's the irony.

If LOV had legitimately beaten Farstorm to Statue, we would have stepped back and let you have your kill.

You can thank your 'bro' Tarrus for intentionally trying to wipe our raid and taunt us in OOC for causing all this shit.
But wait, Tarrus is above 99% of all EQ players, this can't be.

NoNoNo you miss read the post, It said Tarrus goes down on 99% of the EQ players J/K

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » March 28, 2003, 4:26 pm

Cartalas wrote:
Gurugurumaki wrote:
miir wrote:
You said a statement that was false and I had to backup my bro Tarrus. Cause there was a false statement put out about him and about LoV.
Here's the irony.

If LOV had legitimately beaten Farstorm to Statue, we would have stepped back and let you have your kill.

You can thank your 'bro' Tarrus for intentionally trying to wipe our raid and taunt us in OOC for causing all this shit.
But wait, Tarrus is above 99% of all EQ players, this can't be.
Don't tempt Maddux and the rangers of Norath~

NoNoNo you miss read the post, It said Tarrus goes down on 99% of the EQ players J/K

Balek · Post by **Balek** » March 28, 2003, 4:27 pm

This is as much as I saw. I didn't see Tarrus' train since I was in camp. Semi long but its what I saw.

I am told to get the LoV/PE clerics setup for vinidi/statue. I get the chain up and running while PoZ are being pulled. Vindi comes running around the corner with 2 PoZ with him. I startup chain and pull the 2 PoZ on me before they get slowed. I die but noone else does, and I'm resed in as LoV/PE puller pulls statue (Vindi is dead).

Statue is engaged when I'm at 30% mana and most of my chain is around 80%, so I sat out of chain. Had two adds again with statue, so I healed the tank killing off the adds, while the other clerics kept the MT up. Statue enraged and the tank died (don't ask me I only heal), about 4 or 5 monks/rogues ate it before statue died.

We rez up, I am getting the cleric chain reset to AoW mods. I tell the WM NOT to pull because some of the clerics present had never killed AoW and I needed to go over the strat. Right after clerics are in position and MT is rebuffed and in spot, soemone says FS pulled Idol.

So I go over strat some more, since I had the time. FS kills Idol, and pulls AoW (I guess there was some agro struggle on this but not much was mentioned in our raid channels). They engage and kill AoW. From the number of mobs we killed to get to Vindi it didn't look like much was cleared. I am positive Idol, and Statue were poped by LoV/PE since I saw both Vindi's and Statues Corpse. Would I call this a roll by FS? I guess so, we hesitated buy about 2 mins while clerics medded and redid chain between Statue and Idol. I guess we just dont have the mana poll and regen to kill idol and statue back to back.

Fovol · Post by **Fovol** » March 28, 2003, 4:32 pm

We cleared everything but the Temple, which Tarrus trained on us, so we killed it anyways. After he trained it, you promptly pulled Statue.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 28, 2003, 4:34 pm

There ya have it he was a imbeaded reporter too.

Balek · Post by **Balek** » March 28, 2003, 4:37 pm

When it comes to vindi pop location and statue pop location im in the dark.

Temple is statue pop location?

If temple is statue pop, why were you clearing for Statue before he poped?

I believe you did clear to Statue, becasue the pause time between vindi death and statue engage was literally 30 seconds - 1 minute.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 4:37 pm

I am positive Idol, and Statue were poped by LoV/PE since I saw both Vindi's and Statues Corpse. Would I call this a roll by FS? I guess so, we hesitated buy about 2 mins while clerics medded and redid chain between Statue and Idol. I guess we just dont have the mana poll and regen to kill idol and statue back to back.

There is no dispute that LOV/PE popped Idol.

The dispute stems from the fact that Farstorm cleared 95% of the way to Statue/Vindi when Tarrus trained our camp with about 8 mobs... The LOV/PE puller pulled Statue while we were killing off the trained mobs.

Can you dispute the fact that Farstorm was there first, in force to pull Statue?
Can you dispute the fact that Tarrus intentionally trained the Farstorm camp?
Can you dispute the fact that several people in your raid bragged about the training in OOC?

There was no underhanded tactics employed by anyone involved with the Farstorm raid.

Veeshan has long lived by the 'first in force' rules which the LOV raid did not abide by in this situation.

There will be no retaliation by any Farstorm member.
Farstorm's reputation will not be sullied by a few individuals who seem to have some deep seeded personal issues with Drinsic.

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » March 28, 2003, 4:40 pm

Several guildmembers bragging about traning in ooc? You seem to be adding more and more nonsense with each post to the ordeal.

miir · Post by **miir** » March 28, 2003, 4:42 pm

Cracc wrote:Several guildmembers bragging about traning in ooc? You seem to be adding more and more nonsense with each post to the ordeal.

So you dispute that point but you don't deny any of the others?