Hey CT, CoE, Valhall etc

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 20, 2002, 1:35 am

Kilmoll, though often your flames can be laughably entertaining, its getting quite pathetic. Neither guild in the CoE/CD alliance is more powerful or more knowledgable than the other, we work as one entity, share things equally and have become the 2nd strongest power on the server.
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And any guild which does buy them is probably gonna get their asses owned in VT and end up wasting tons of time dying and losing spawns to FoH.

You can't tell me that the reason CoED won on HP was because of CoE knowledge.

Last I heard a good number of CD who went to FoH just left and went back to CD. Guess what they brought with them when they joined the CoED alliance?

FoH strats anyone? I bet Furor was really happy to see that.

devereaux · Post by **devereaux** » July 20, 2002, 2:03 am

Hey Leyor! Is that you? How is the 'cyber molkor' doing? You know who I'm talking about

. Drop by our new website sometime and say hello.

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 20, 2002, 9:44 am

Grats on killing HP on your first attempt ever. Killing a mob with 12 guards on your first attempt tells us that knowledge is greater then all. Doubt that would have happened w/o the returns from FoH aka Apostate, but a good kill none the less. I expect Emporer to die soon. FoH will have company in VT pretty soon, something I know Furor should be really pissed off about since it will interrupt their total ownage of that zone with 0 competition, till now. I would be pissed off too.

Revs · Post by **Revs** » July 20, 2002, 9:56 am

Let me be the first to JACKASS Leyor

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 20, 2002, 10:26 am

Then let me be the first to JACKASS Devereaux!!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 20, 2002, 8:29 pm

Umm, sorry, what possible reason could there be to lock this?

It is an open forum, we agreed to this, why the fuck would this be locked?

Do I need to continue this with you Xou?

Krurk · Post by **Krurk** » July 20, 2002, 8:51 pm

Actually

Township Rebellion has already been selling power sources on other servers that they claim were destroyed. Believe they have gone to Brell and Bristlebane so far.

Cry all you want, doubt anything will happen, but the reaction outta foh was just pure comedy.

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 20, 2002, 9:19 pm

Dunno why the need to sell them anyway, what do you really need. If I am thinking this clearly enough, if you can kill emporer then your bank vault is prolly nice and rich anyway. The only thing plat will get you is a few bucks per 1000 on ebay.

Wonder who is keeping all the cash on the plat sales, bet it's not the guild sharing it.

Krurk · Post by **Krurk** » July 20, 2002, 10:25 pm

Actually we could use pp or items because...

While we currently have 2.4mil pp spread out amongst officers, we also:

Spend anywhere from 100-500k a week on items such as Mosquito Earrings, Tormax boots, Slime Boots, and other tradable items we make available to guild members. (Stormhammer has a very active economy in high level tradables)

Every two weeks or so we give away 103k to members to purchase horses.

We have a steady supply of coffins, EE's, dots, star rubies, portal fragments and any other items members may need without spending one pp of their own.

How do we sustain this? We sell up to 1mil in pp a month in rotting loot or tradables (our current favorite is aow legs, of which we have sold 4 pair at an average of 300k).

If you knew people in my guild they have no doubt that the funds are handled carefully. We have made large loans of over 100k to members to purchase items on their own, bought MQ for epics or armor, or when we are bored we hire GM assasins to kill annoying people on the server. As it stands, we could have every member of TR killed 6 times each and still have pp to spare....

Adela · Post by **Adela** » July 20, 2002, 11:35 pm

I would say something but i'm pretty sure he has Ressia blackmail ;(

Zvenn Eaglefist · Post by **Zvenn Eaglefist** » July 20, 2002, 11:58 pm

Leyor and Dev===> JACKASS

ok i feel better now

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » July 21, 2002, 12:22 am

Krurk wrote:Actually

Township Rebellion has already been selling power sources on other servers that they claim were destroyed. Believe they have gone to Brell and Bristlebane so far.

Cry all you want, doubt anything will happen, but the reaction outta foh was just pure comedy.

are those the same sources you faggots demanded TR give you when you couldn't kill emp?

KriistaSilence · Post by **KriistaSilence** » July 22, 2002, 10:03 am

just a tid bit of humor and a lvl of irony that is rarely seen

from about 3months ago:

Furor writes:

Now, we're NOT going to KS you or steamroll you - that's just not our style - more than likely we'll just move on to some other shard camp. Understand this, though; when PoP rolls around and we leave this shit expansion behind, we will have 100's of extra power sources. Guess who we will not be selling them to? Do you represent a guild? Well congratulations because you and your entire guild are shitlisted.

Right now, all we're doing is camping shards and taking down names of griefers. You do not stand a chance in hell of ever getting a VT key - EVER - if you are not in at least the second tier guild on the server. The only chance you have is us, why piss in our assholes? Now we can make this nice and friendly, or we can make this suck. When CT gets around to killing the Emperor sometime in 2003/2004 they have some 1,800 members to Key, after that they will be farming VT, so no Power Source sales from them for at least a year, year and a half. Again, guess who that leaves? US... And US will not be selling you jack or shit.

Now believe me, I would LOVE to sell you power sources when the time comes. I will GLADLY sell them to you once we're done with the expansion and move on. By that time, you may be ready for VT and hell, if you play your cards right, you and your guild can be in VT without even having to go through the hassle of killing the Emperor, but I repeat, if you're griefing us, you and your guild can go fuck yourselves.

from today:

Furor writes :

The irony. The hyporcisy. A server like Stormhammer, where you have to actually KILL a mob to be able to participate in a GM enforced rotation of spawns, is now the gateway to allow any server, any person, to enter Vex Thal without participating in a single obligatory time sink.

Do you need to camp for your own Emperor key? Shissar bane weaponry? Establish any form of a plan to actually take down the Emperor to get your own power sources? Not anymore. You may now make purchases of Celestial Rifts from low lives like, Krurk, and others from servers all over the gameworld. The most intriguing part about all of this is - IT'S SANCTIONED BY VERANT.

Kriista Silence

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 22, 2002, 10:29 am

Apostate is a class act. The idea of him "leaking strats" I find unlikely.

Aarinu · Post by **Aarinu** » July 22, 2002, 10:29 am

Kriista Silence <===JACKASS

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » July 22, 2002, 11:19 am

Adex_Xeda wrote:Apostate is a class act. The idea of him "leaking strats" I find unlikely.

apos is in cd now adex, get with the times ho!
Kriista, I think the situation kinda went over your head.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 22, 2002, 11:25 am

If you have a problem with Apostae, you are a fucking retard.

Edit: Just saw FOH frontpage, ahhahaha

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 22, 2002, 11:26 am

I know he's with CD and my belief is unchanged.

Fandyen · Post by **Fandyen** » July 22, 2002, 11:45 am

Just had to reply to krurk's post on buying/selling...which has virtually nothing to do with the post.
Its pretty sad your guild has to buy its members gear they should be camping, and doing MQ's on epics.

Leyrin · Post by **Leyrin** » July 22, 2002, 11:55 am

http://www.clubfu.com/

Township Rebelion dont sell powersources on Bristlebane.

Retard~

Krurk · Post by **Krurk** » July 22, 2002, 12:03 pm

I just want to apologize in advance for this. This thread has been posted on the SH forums so now you will be flooded with winners like:

Fitz - "Thanks for proving my point. You are lazy and have priorities other than EQ"

Carminae - "TR haven t wipe on CT , we just had CT on add of a pull of 3 glare lord + 6 others mobs , and well we camped a reser and tried to kill CT for fun "

I am sure you will give them a warm welcome.

Leyrin · Post by **Leyrin** » July 22, 2002, 12:09 pm

This thread already have the best winner.

Krurk

Post by **Xouqoa** » July 22, 2002, 12:12 pm

Great, now we'll go through even more bandwidth with jackasses from the SH server coming here. I should require them all to pay for avatars and signatures like they do on VN .. I bet they would pay, too!

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » July 22, 2002, 12:13 pm

Teenybloke wrote:If you have a problem with Apostae, you are a fucking retard.

Edit: Just saw FOH frontpage, ahhahaha

no way i love apos

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » July 22, 2002, 12:55 pm

*sigh*

NM what I said about Apostate.

I've been educated as to the facts.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » July 22, 2002, 1:01 pm

Janx wrote "Rent must be due.."

Nope, his trailer is paid for, cashmoneythxpaypalkthxbyebye.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » July 22, 2002, 1:05 pm

yeah man, he needs gas money for his moped and new tinfoil for the rabbit ears on his tv set.

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » July 22, 2002, 1:23 pm

I've had this conversation for what feels about a hundred times in the last few weeks, and it is really simple.

I didn't stay in FoH to learn strategies or anything like that, and I don't have the same motivations for playing as most of the players in FoH, and wouldn't have joined the guild to begin with unless friends had been in it. Staying as long as I did was probably a mistake, and I'm sorry to have annoyed the people in the guild or ever to have given them the wrong impression. While in FoH, I tried to never work against the best interests of the guild, and left when it became clear that a conflict of interests would make that impossible.

After going back to my RL friends, I still respect and like FoH quite a bit, have no grudge against them, and would rather avoid them given the choice. But I can't just forget everything I learned while in a guild. What do people expect me to do? Skip on Arch Lich or High Priest raids because I've been 'tainted' with FoH knowledge, and my presence there would bias the outcome? Frankly, I think my role is VASTLY overstated, and I'm not nearly as important as people make me out to be. CD has guildmembers either in, or friends with, Legacy of Steel, Legacy of Sorrow, Ring of Valor, Ascending Dawn, and more. Knowledge is easy to come by, but experience isn't, and that is what you need to fault me for having.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » July 22, 2002, 1:54 pm

...issuing Apostate a JACKASS.

Apostate is one of the most above board and classy players on this or any server. He is also one of the most skilled and probably had a hand in the strats utilized by FOH at the time he was in FOH. I think its also fair to say that there is no fair comparison to the gear and makeup FOH has vs COE + CD, so using a cookie cutter strategy would not work flat out with out adapting it to your crew anyhow. Bitch all you want about COED, but Apostate is still THE class act of the server, hands down.

How can you fault the guy for helping his friends and guildmates succeed if he is upfront and fair about it? The guy is in a difficult spot that, quite frankly, his friends manuevered him into and he is STILL trying to make everyone happy. Apos, fuck it. Take care of your own and your own fun and let other people work things out for themselves. You shouldn't be beating yourself up over other peoples obsession with laying blame.

Fattyfat · Post by **Fattyfat** » July 22, 2002, 2:26 pm

I would do apostate in the ass if he asked me to.

Merton · Post by **Merton** » July 22, 2002, 2:36 pm

I can guarentee that no sources will be sold by TR for a good while, if not ever.

And really guys, don't let Krurk's threats worry you. He and his guild won't be killing the emperor too often when the lead GM isn't respawning the zone to give them a second attempt 20 minutes after their first :-)

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 22, 2002, 2:48 pm

Hey Apostate. I'll always consider you a good guy and a friend, but you're just fooling yourself to think your role in CD is being overstated. You were the reason CoED was able to kill AoW in the first place, you told me as much the day it happened. And to assume something like going up against the HP fight, a fight which entails strict crowd control and people following a specific plan, wasn't all thanks to your complete and thorough walkthrough is basically insulting to all the former guildmates you still like and respect. You knew you had a conflict of interest months and months ago when you'd sit anon on Apostate helping CD out, we knew you had a conflict of interest months and months ago too. But you're a nice guy, a great cleric, and now we're just having to deal with the outcome of that. But please, don't try to insult our intelligence, that's the worst strat you could post.

As for Krurk.. a folding chair holding Marlon Brando has more integrity.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » July 22, 2002, 2:59 pm

Damn the edit feature!

<--- pointless pharm post here

Fladora · Post by **Fladora** » July 23, 2002, 2:11 am

Hey Apos,

JACKASS!!

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Gordiken the Wicked · Post by **Gordiken the Wicked** » July 23, 2002, 4:46 am

I would do fatty in the ass.....oh wait....ok!

Carminae · Post by **Carminae** » July 23, 2002, 5:31 am

Hello,

Thanks for the input. No, we do not allow power sources to be moved off the
server. Just so you know, the Emperor drop and key mechanism will be
changed with the coming patch.

Best regards,

Alex von Minden
-------------------------------------------------------
Lead Game Master Bordael
Sony Online Entertainment
EverQuest Legends Customer Service

Thanks for trying Krurk but lead GM made it clear since first kill of emp on SH that Sources wasn t allowed to move in or move out of SH .

Revs · Post by **Revs** » July 23, 2002, 6:47 am

Time to JACKASS Apos! I'd do the same for Krimson but he's cool and I helped him out the night of his return

Fatty wrote:

I would do apostate in the ass if he asked me to.

I know for sure he wouldn't do
A$$BELLY!

Fuck, that link is down....

Iamane · Post by **Iamane** » July 23, 2002, 9:13 am

Fear teh asbelly

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 23, 2002, 10:33 am

Apostate is nothing lower then first rate class act of a person. After speaking to him now on several occaisions I find his attitude to be of the highest moral character and will help him anytime I can if he needs me.

Due to this no Jackass from me and I wish most GL's would be this classy. You guys taking Krurk serious need to go see a doctor. He merely wanted to have some fun and he got the reaction he was looking for. Grats to those who bit his bait tactic.

Funniest thing I have read was the letter from Township Rebellion actually threatening SOE with a better business bereau complaint. I can just imagine the agent reading the complaint over a mob spawning by a GM in a video game scatching his head. Also they ask for a server transfer where there are no hi-end guilds and non Euro server. The idiocy continues as they promise to not honor the calendar system imposed by Bordael keeping TR from monopolizing Stormhammer. Did I mention the relocation was to be in full gear as well?

Fucking morons are in plentiful supply these days Lol.

[edit] For your reading pleasure: http://pub116.ezboard.com/flegends11114 ... =180.topic

Kaluian_CT · Post by **Kaluian_CT** » July 23, 2002, 1:15 pm

I dont know Apostate, and I really dont have too, to know that its just a tough situation.

FoH is the most strategicaly sound guild that plays the game. If you want to expeirience the game at it's highest level, this is the guild you want to be a part of. Im sure this was a large part of Apostate's motivation for joining FoH, as would most peoples be.
Though, if most of his friends are in another guild/guilds, I certainly understand wanting to help them, play with them, etc. It sounds to me like he only left FoH to be with his RL friends, and didnt want to continue in FoH with an obvious conflict of interest occuring. That is a class thing to do, when he may have just stayed and continued to "help" his friends while gaining new knowledge in future endevours as well.

The only part I have a problem with is where he takes full credit for CoECD taking down AoW. If that statement was true, then I have to question his integrity to some extent. I'm not going to judge, because I dont know the statement to be a fact, but if it is, then that move lacked class, only because at that time he was in FoH, but taking credit for CoECD's AoW kill? Thats leaking info.

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 23, 2002, 1:25 pm

Kaluian I dont think he is taking full credit, more like was given from the way t reads. Plus thats heresay to boot. I only regard him from my own personal interaction and thats been very classy to date.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 23, 2002, 1:34 pm

Kaluian_CT wrote:I'm not going to judge, because I dont know the statement to be a fact, but if it is, then that move lacked class, only because at that time he was in FoH, but taking credit for CoECD's AoW kill? Thats leaking info.

yeah it is leaking info, but i'm not sure the offense is so eggregious, since FoH is literally 6months + past AoW as a target mob.

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 23, 2002, 1:40 pm

Well FOH may not be too happy about Apostate, for this means when Pop rolls out there will be 2 groups on Veeshan equally matched. I will buy the expansion just to see how this plays out.

Futures on flames are selling at an alltime high...)

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » July 23, 2002, 1:46 pm

It isn't just AoW. This is obvious from the HP win. Do you really think they didn't steal FoH strats for BB, AL, etc also? Mega zerg + a script for each mob.

I'm waiting for Leyor to come post some holier than thou shit about how he looked sideways at the HP and some divine inspiration came over him and the whole fight became clear, no need to even test the mob.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » July 23, 2002, 5:13 pm

I have 27 smiley faces in the pool for Leyors response. I can feel the love.

Arundel Pajo · Post by **Arundel Pajo** » July 23, 2002, 5:16 pm

Put me in for 9 smileys, two of the little laughing guy, and a winker.

Ooga[foh] · Post by **Ooga[foh]** » July 23, 2002, 6:02 pm

Well, honestly, we knew about it months before he left.. We knew he would eventually go back, we could just tell.. We didn't do anything about it because we didn't have any reason to and we respected Apostate far too much to stir up any shit over something A) we couldn't prove and B) smoething that wasn't even happening yet.. Does FoH need anything from HP/AL/Creator?? Not really at all, most of the time it's just time fillers.. Sure we have some newer folks who could use a trinket from Creator or a Bloodbath from HP, helms are always nice from AL as well as casters sleeves etc, but realistically, we don't need any of that shit anymore..

Apostate is a great guy, there is no doubt about it.. I think really the only thing for us officers was that he wasn't straight with us.. Apostate would play inactive/retired CD characters while we raided, go anonymous to hideout, etc.. Alls we wanted was for him to be straight with us.. He was an incredible contributor and a tough loss to swallow for sure, but knowing how the guy truly felt would have been great.. Tehom is his twin brother, they live together, it was obvious all along that Tehom just had to look over his shoulder or that there was open dialogue between the two on strats and whatnot.. It was really unavoidable.. I applaud Aposate though for generally making sure that we were finished with said mob before CoED would kill it with basically the exact same way as we did..

It was inevitable that they would eventually come up to speed though, it was just a matter of time.. With enough determination and practice, anything is possible in EverQuest, that's no secret to anyone..

Would I have done the same thing if I was in Apostate's shoes? Thats really the question I ask myself.. This is just one of those situations that sucks and theres no way around it..

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 23, 2002, 6:37 pm

Apostate sure gets a lot of respect for stirring up so much shit : ) Kills you with kindness? If it wasn't FoH that got dissed, I'd start to think there was something wrong with him.

Luckily it seems the entire Veeshan population was aware of this months ago so what's the point in discussing it now?

Zvenn Eaglefist · Post by **Zvenn Eaglefist** » July 23, 2002, 6:38 pm

put me down for 18 dont ask why just got a feeling its 18 smileys )

Kaluian_CT · Post by **Kaluian_CT** » July 23, 2002, 8:12 pm

yeah it is leaking info, but i'm not sure the offense is so eggregious, since FoH is literally 6months + past AoW as a target mob.

I agree to this statement somewhat, however, CoECD hadn't been doing AoW for 6 months, and had Apostate not leaked stratigy to CoECD, they wouldnt have been able to kill AoW, at least according to Dregor's post on Apostate's position on the matter.

Kaluian I dont think he is taking full credit, more like was given from the way t reads. Plus thats heresay to boot.

That is the perspective you had and I see your point but the following statement sounds to me like he was saying they would not have beat AoW without his input:

You were the reason CoED was able to kill AoW in the first place, you told me as much the day it happened.

Dont misunderstand me, as Ooga said, I have to certainly wonder if I wouldn't do the same, given I were in his shoes. I honestly don't know, and it's why I said in my first post, "Its a tough situation" either way. I think it was a class act he got out and discontinued these practices, as he could have continued to do. But,....it does seem he waited till VT became fairly monotonous.

VeeshanVault

Hey CT, CoE, Valhall etc

"Have You No Common Decency, Sir?"

I'm not entirely sure what people expect me to do...

Allow me the honor of...

hum hum how a GL don t know his own server