fantasy novels

chilanis · Post by **chilanis** » February 19, 2003, 6:40 am

Hey i was wonderin if you guys could suggest any dark fantasy novels where the bad guy wins...? thanks in advance.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » February 19, 2003, 6:44 am

chilanis · Post by **chilanis** » February 19, 2003, 6:48 am

dont derail till i get a couple replys pls, 420 all day tho =p

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » February 19, 2003, 7:06 am

*sigh* conscience got the better of me - gotta lay off the n00bs.

noel · Post by **noel** » February 19, 2003, 7:09 am

Arguably, the bad guy always wins.

It just depends upon your perspective.

Quarkk · Post by **Quarkk** » February 19, 2003, 8:15 am

Ravenloft - it's a dark fantasy world (they call it horror, I don't agree) where almost everyone's a bad guy, it just depends who's... um... badder! Anyway, it's a world tied in loosely with Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms, though there's not many crossover characters, but they do have a gold elven vampire from Realms and Lord Soth from Dragonlance.

Anyway, overall I think some of the stuff's good. I enjoy the Azalin books, some of the stuff is cheesy though.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » February 19, 2003, 8:16 am

You may get more on-topic posts if you post under the "Adventures in Reading" forum. I think there are a couple good threads on good fantasy novels in there already.

Aaeamdar · Post by **Aaeamdar** » February 19, 2003, 10:15 am

Tigiana. Having said that - I interpretted your question a bit differently than just what you wrote. If you meant you wanted a fantasy novel with characters the easily fit into the stereotypical good guy/bad guy but where the bad guy wins in the end - I don't know of one. Tigiana has two sides and one side wins and neither clearly fit inside good or bad.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » February 19, 2003, 11:13 am

Can't believe no one JACKASSED this person yet.

miir · Post by **miir** » February 19, 2003, 12:49 pm

JACKASS

Ocelott · Post by **Ocelott** » February 19, 2003, 1:21 pm

I really like the "The Black Company Series"