Gas Prices and you.....
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Gas Prices and you.....
I about soiled myself this morning.....
$1.93 at my local (Pismo Beach, Cali) and rising!
What's it like where you live? This is going to get fucking brutal for all us commuters. Only 45 mile commute here, I'm sure there is much worse.
**EDIT** Yes, I meant regular unleaded.
$1.93 at my local (Pismo Beach, Cali) and rising!
What's it like where you live? This is going to get fucking brutal for all us commuters. Only 45 mile commute here, I'm sure there is much worse.
**EDIT** Yes, I meant regular unleaded.
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damn $1.75 this morning at the cheapest station near me in Chicago for 87 octane
it was $1.65 on Friday
stupid me
forgot to fill up on Friday
it was $1.65 on Friday
stupid me

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No we don't. But just added up what it would be in dollars so you guys would understand how expensive Denmark is. I saw the new BMW Boxster in the commercials at Superbowl finals. You guys are paying 39 downpayments for 399 dollars and an amount of like 800 dollars when picking it up LOL.... :) Here that car would cost 350.000 dollars
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Ok, there is a reason why gas prices effect Americans so much:
It's called poor City Planning. With suburban sprawl and the "Not in my backyard" (NIMB) attitude of many American's these days the average commute to work has become so long that now some people spend almost as much time commuting as they do working. Compound that with our desire to drive large gas guzzling and polluting vehicles ("Expeditions, Suburbans, HUMVees, Land Rovers, etc") we have in essence generated a skyrocketing demand side curve. Supply is relatively fixed (OPEC is capping/capped production) so it follows that gas prices can go up and the average consumer is stuck without much recourse. Because some people believe its a god given right to live 50 miles from work and drive 12 mpg vehicles the rest of us "lesser" beings are stuck footing the bill. Think about it, each time you see a SUV rolling down the road in part you are also paying a share of the cost in taxes (because those vehicles get tax breaks on sales/production and have lower emissions or no emissions standards which you cover in taxes for environmental clean-up and testing) and because the increased demand for fuel to supply these vehicles means additional pressure for increased prices at the pump.
I can't think of one person I know that sees a fat person walking down the road and says "Gee, there goes a healthy person, I really admire how fat they are." Yet many American's gawk at the large gas guzzling vehicles and desire them even though they are absolutely unhealthy for all of us.
As for city planning, we have abandoned our cities for the boring and wasteful (from a land management viewpoint) use of tracts of land to create the illusion of the american dream. Its such a sham it makes me sick. If you want to do something about gas prices and about all the time we waste in our lives on commuting start thinking about alternatives to the crap being shoved down throats and take a stand. I do in my community and live by setting an example. I drive a small vehicle, I live in a downtown urban setting, and I always do my best to live next to work. We could in numbers stand up against the poor development of our last remaining resources. I have written my Congressmen several times this year and yes I get back the same old form letter crap. Maybe if more of us did this they would wake up and do something for fear of disenfranchising voters.
BTW: The averge cost of commuting by car is far higher than the cost of your vehicle and petrol. Add in licensing, emissions testing, city, state, federal taxes, subsidies, tolls, auto insurance, etc and you will realize that we all spend an enormous amount of cash on transportation... not including all the time we spend on roads sucking up exhaust fumes and dealing with the other 'morons' on the road as frustrated as we are.
It's called poor City Planning. With suburban sprawl and the "Not in my backyard" (NIMB) attitude of many American's these days the average commute to work has become so long that now some people spend almost as much time commuting as they do working. Compound that with our desire to drive large gas guzzling and polluting vehicles ("Expeditions, Suburbans, HUMVees, Land Rovers, etc") we have in essence generated a skyrocketing demand side curve. Supply is relatively fixed (OPEC is capping/capped production) so it follows that gas prices can go up and the average consumer is stuck without much recourse. Because some people believe its a god given right to live 50 miles from work and drive 12 mpg vehicles the rest of us "lesser" beings are stuck footing the bill. Think about it, each time you see a SUV rolling down the road in part you are also paying a share of the cost in taxes (because those vehicles get tax breaks on sales/production and have lower emissions or no emissions standards which you cover in taxes for environmental clean-up and testing) and because the increased demand for fuel to supply these vehicles means additional pressure for increased prices at the pump.
I can't think of one person I know that sees a fat person walking down the road and says "Gee, there goes a healthy person, I really admire how fat they are." Yet many American's gawk at the large gas guzzling vehicles and desire them even though they are absolutely unhealthy for all of us.
As for city planning, we have abandoned our cities for the boring and wasteful (from a land management viewpoint) use of tracts of land to create the illusion of the american dream. Its such a sham it makes me sick. If you want to do something about gas prices and about all the time we waste in our lives on commuting start thinking about alternatives to the crap being shoved down throats and take a stand. I do in my community and live by setting an example. I drive a small vehicle, I live in a downtown urban setting, and I always do my best to live next to work. We could in numbers stand up against the poor development of our last remaining resources. I have written my Congressmen several times this year and yes I get back the same old form letter crap. Maybe if more of us did this they would wake up and do something for fear of disenfranchising voters.
BTW: The averge cost of commuting by car is far higher than the cost of your vehicle and petrol. Add in licensing, emissions testing, city, state, federal taxes, subsidies, tolls, auto insurance, etc and you will realize that we all spend an enormous amount of cash on transportation... not including all the time we spend on roads sucking up exhaust fumes and dealing with the other 'morons' on the road as frustrated as we are.
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Woot!!! if the price of gas keeps going up I can get one of these CHEAP!!
http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?s ... er/h1.tmpl
I wont be able to drive it but I can get one
http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?s ... er/h1.tmpl
I wont be able to drive it but I can get one
Extra points for smashing over Honda Civics driven by leftist bimbos?Cartalas wrote:Woot!!! if the price of gas keeps going up I can get one of these CHEAP!!
http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?s ... er/h1.tmpl
I wont be able to drive it but I can get one
Aha! That explains why someone stole the v-tec sticker off my car...kyoukan type-R wrote:it probably had a v-tec sticker. v-tec stickers are good for another 450 lbs of torque.kurzweil wrote:hybrid & fuel cell cars here we come!
The other day I saw a Honda Insight zoom up the Camarillo grade with no problem. They got plenty of power.
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Cheapest I've seen is $1.63/regular here in Cincinnati/Dayton area. Average price is about $1.74 though, and has remained so for over a week now. My theory is that the gas prices will rise until they hit about $1.90/regular, hover there for a week or so, then fall back down to around $1.65, at which point the gas companies will make a big deal about lowering their prices again.
The days of $1.25 gas are over.
The days of $1.25 gas are over.
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Its .99 cents at the Little Debbie snacks factory in Columbus GA every Wednesday, just have to buy a dozen donuts with your gas purchase, get all you want at .99 a gallon.
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I saw $2.15 for regular in the foothills out here Sat , that was for Reg Unleaded. Then again its always higher when you get up into the mountains. My poor poor Jeep gets abuout 10mpg , I only wish I had one of then 15-20mpg SUVs at times. Then again I dont take that damn thing on trips very often at all. My commute is all of 3 miles , so I love that fact to.
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No moped yet? They'll boot you off the island soon.masteen wrote:I'm paying almost $2/gallon for premium here, so figure $1.80/gal. of regular. I almost shit when it took $30 bucks to fill up my car...
My truck runs like crap on anything but premium, pings and gas mileage sucks with anything below 90 octane.
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I filled up last night on the way home from school...
$1.66/gl for 93 octane (10% enthanol)
$1.73/gl for 89 octane non-ethanol
Here in desolate north-eastern south dakota they are building ethanol plants all over the place... there are 4 within a 75 mile radius...
Once the ethanol is blended with gasoline it tends to decrease the price a bit...
$1.66/gl for 93 octane (10% enthanol)
$1.73/gl for 89 octane non-ethanol
Here in desolate north-eastern south dakota they are building ethanol plants all over the place... there are 4 within a 75 mile radius...
Once the ethanol is blended with gasoline it tends to decrease the price a bit...
When I was in Hawaii this past November, gas prices were just nuts. Considering it's a pain in the ass getting them anything that isn't actually grown and/or harvested there, it's understandable. But still, the Big Island had prices in the $2.40 range for premium. I can only imagine what it is now.
Luckily, Jersey seems to have one of the lowest gasoline taxes in the country. Even though the state is full-serve only, the prices are still lower here than just about anywhere else.
Luckily, Jersey seems to have one of the lowest gasoline taxes in the country. Even though the state is full-serve only, the prices are still lower here than just about anywhere else.