Speeding Ticket

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 17, 2003, 10:19 am

35 in a fucking 30.

I was the only car within sight on an early Sunday morning, AND! there was a sign for 35 within throwing distance. The cop said "Yeah, but you were speeding prior to that sign". I believe I got the ticket for pointing at the 35 mph sign. Cops don't like to be told anything other than "yes sir" and "no sir".

My perfect driving record is totally boned due to an asshole cop. I mean, I would understand if maybe I was driving recklessly or maybe my car was a loud piece of shit or something. No. I just think he knew I was passing through town and was an easy target. The highway was less than a mile away too.

Fucking cops. Way to ruin my weekend.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » February 17, 2003, 10:30 am

I got a ticket for 32 in a 30 once. I kid you not.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » February 17, 2003, 10:32 am

that sucks... been the victim on that... do you have the option of taking traffic school?

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » February 17, 2003, 10:38 am

Speed traps. It doesn't matter how out of line it is in terms of reasonability, technically, they can do it. There are speed traps all over NJ in the "quaint" little towns. You just have to crawl through them or you will be the victim of a ticket, especially if it's near the end of the month.

My father told me to never wear my letter jacket while driving to school. They always picked on teens, even the safe driving ones and the big varsity letter just screams TICKET ME.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » February 17, 2003, 10:41 am

Dont worry, be Happy.

A ticket every now and then is deserved. I speed every day and every night and I haven't gotten a ticket in 2 years. Not to say that I haven't gotten pulled over, even with weed in the car.

Getting angry and taking it out on the cop is the worst. Being cooperative and respectful, even if you defend yourself against a ticket, and word choice is crucial to avoid the ticket. I turn on the dome light and put the windows down, hands on the wheel.

Deward · Post by **Deward** » February 17, 2003, 10:54 am

Your best bet is to take it to court. Most of the time the judge will throw a little ticket like that out and change it to a defective speedometer offence. That saves you on the insurance.

Here in Wisconsin, cops can only pull you over if you are exceeding the speed limit by 10 miles per hour. They will pull you over if they think you are driving haphazardly but they can't give you a ticket for going 5 mph over. I was told all this by a cop 10 years ago though so things may have changed. I usually drive about 8 mph over at all times and never have gotten pulled over or ticketed.

Deward

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » February 17, 2003, 11:01 am

Depends on the judge. I went to traffic court with a former gf of mine for a ticket she received. Basically he said that if the cop who gave you the ticket isn't here (a situation where people expect the ticket to be dropped) he will reschedule.

It's not the ticket that sucks really, it's the pounding your car insurance premium gets as a result. I pay $1,250 a year for a 4-door '98 civic ex and $500 comp/coll deductables. I never had an accident and my only ticket came about 11 years ago. It's bad in NJ.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » February 17, 2003, 11:06 am

New Jersey used to have the highest rates but as of either 2000 or 2001 the highest insurance rates moved down to DC with NJ dropping to a close 2nd.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 17, 2003, 11:14 am

It's not the ticket that sucks really, it's the pounding your car insurance premium gets as a result. I pay $1,250 a year for a 4-door '98 civic ex and $500 comp/coll deductables. I never had an accident and my only ticket came about 11 years ago. It's bad in NJ.

If your only ticket was 11 years ago that's more than likely not a factor in your insurance rate. I don't know about NJ but most insurance places only go by your past 3 years driving record in determining your rate.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » February 17, 2003, 11:45 am

Tickets don't do shit to your insurance unless you tell them about them when you get your quote, or you get like more than 3 in one year.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 17, 2003, 11:49 am

Ever heard of this scam?

Ok, my ticket will be 75$. So, I write a check for 80$ and mail it in. The State of Michigan cuts and sends me a check for the 5$ difference. Once I recive that check, I do not cash it. Instead I simply throw it away.

I've heard rumors that until the refund check is cashed, the points are never placed in the database since the record is technically incomplete.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » February 17, 2003, 11:51 am

just the quickest way to lose $5.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 17, 2003, 11:56 am

If its only 5 miles over you can probably win out in court unless you were in a special speed reduced zone like a school or a park. especially if its in a county where the traffic courts dont co-ordinate dates with the cops so they can come in and do them all at once.

I get pulled over all the time but I almost never get a ticket. I guess the moral is to grow breasts, smile at the cops and try not to claw their face off when they call you blondie or cutie.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 17, 2003, 12:05 pm

Well, yet another way they have me bent over is that I got this in Mt. Pleasant, which is a good 2-2.5 hour drive from where I live. If I were to fight it in court, I'd have to take a day off of work, which would cost me more than $100.00, plus I'd have to pay for gas on top of that.

It's simply not worth it to go fight it out in court.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » February 17, 2003, 12:45 pm

No points for 5 over (in PA at least), Fair. I've fought 2 tickets and gotten them reduced to 5 over, no points.

The biggest ticket I ever got was 86 in a 55. I drove 30 minutes to the place, walked into a room with a judge and the cop and the judge just said "How about 60 in a 55?" I said, "Guilty." Couldn't remove the smile from my face for hours.

retiredwikit · Post by **retiredwikit** » February 17, 2003, 12:49 pm

My brother got pulled over for 70 in a 30. My dad knows the judge so he threw out the ticket and my brother had to do 16 hours of community service. I've done 61 in a 30 (going down a pretty steep hill) and 45 in a 30, both thrown out. Unfortunately the 45 in a 40 didn't. I'll take the 5 mph ticket over both my others.

oh yeah,
/pharm

Post by **Sylvus** » February 17, 2003, 12:50 pm

I'm positive that 5 over is no points in Michigan if you were on the highway, not sure about in town.

Went to the Soaring Eagle for the weekend, huh? How'd you do? (Disregarding the ticket, of course)

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 17, 2003, 12:51 pm

My dad knows the judge so he threw out the ticket and my brother had to do 16 hours of community service

And who says Justice isn't blind...

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 17, 2003, 12:56 pm

As far as the gambling, my GF and we $300 between the 2 of us. She was up by $400+ at one point, but lost it all. It was a fun weekend. Our hotel was hella nice and we had some great food throughout the course our visit.

Wheel of Fortune is the best slot machine in the world.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » February 17, 2003, 12:58 pm

There are a few towns along the 395 on the way to Mammoth Lakes, CA that go from 65 to 55 to 45 to 35 to 25 within a half mile inside the towns. While this is good for the towns' businesses and street safety, it is a pain when you have been driving 90MPH through the desolation of the Mojave.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » February 17, 2003, 12:59 pm

EDIT: Double post, gah!

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » February 17, 2003, 1:27 pm

Its worth checking into, but there is something called a "transition zone" from the location of the posted sign. It varies from state to state but it works both ways. You have so many feet to reach the posted limit once you pass a sign, there is also a distance before you pass the sign.

If it was within the distance you maybe able to get it tossed on that technicality, but unless the cop was an idiot in his speed trap i am sure he setup and clocked you well out of this transition zone.

You can also challenge the calibration on the radar that cop used. Again this varies from state to state, usually 90 days is the standard, some states may go as long as 180 days per, recalibration.

Finally, if you just do not want it recorded on your license, then do this:

Call the contact number on the ticket, get the address and the fee that you will have to pay.

Next goto the closest state to you and use a friends address in that state to get a new drivers license for this new state.

Pay the fee

The points wont be placed on your driver record because the license you had when you got the ticket is no longer valid.

You can use your new out of state license until you get a another ticket, then just do the same thing, but this time just go and get a new license in the state you are actually living in.

It works, but it can be a pain in the ass for cashing checks and stuff, people will consider you out of stater.

I myself have no problem with this becaause I am military and have had many differnt state licenses. I also know it works because I used to be a cop.

OverCubed · Post by **OverCubed** » February 17, 2003, 1:49 pm

All this drama for nothing. Go to court, tell the judge your sorry. Tell him you where speeding up because of the 35 mph sign ahead. Point out that you have a perfect driving record and would like a second chance so you dont get a blemish on your record. He will then give you 6 months supervision and Insurance wont find out squat.

Taison Earbiter · Post by **Taison Earbiter** » February 17, 2003, 3:00 pm

http://www.speedtrap.org/

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 17, 2003, 3:03 pm

wow xan what macho profession haven't you been? From crack air force sniper to police officer. That must have been a pretty big change. I honestly don't how you have the time to get in all that bull fighting and freelance stuntman work.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » February 17, 2003, 3:03 pm

Fash wrote:Tickets don't do shit to your insurance unless you tell them about them when you get your quote, or you get like more than 3 in one year.

In NJ that is 100% incorrect. I have no idea about other states however.

Axien_Dellusions · Post by **Axien_Dellusions** » February 17, 2003, 4:09 pm

Got busted on Labor Day weekend doing 80 in a 60 by a speed trap when 4 other small cars were going faster than me. ( The pains of driving a sports car)

In the state of Texas we have deferred judification, basically you admit you were speeding and as long as you don't do it for another 90 days your ticket won't go on your record. Most states have it so you may want to check that out.

kurzweil · Post by **kurzweil** » February 17, 2003, 4:15 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Ever heard of this scam?

Ok, my ticket will be 75$. So, I write a check for 80$ and mail it in. The State of Michigan cuts and sends me a check for the 5$ difference. Once I recive that check, I do not cash it. Instead I simply throw it away.

I've heard rumors that until the refund check is cashed, the points are never placed in the database since the record is technically incomplete.

I heard of that. One of my coworkers did that with a $1 overpayment. That was a few years ago, though. DMV might actually have gotten smart by now.

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » February 17, 2003, 4:38 pm

I have an ideas, dont speed yoo fokers~

Taly · Post by **Taly** » February 17, 2003, 5:22 pm

Thats so lame most places i have ever visited the cops won't move unless u go 10 over..Sorry your driving record is smahed for a bored cop who probebly didnt get any that morning =(

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » February 17, 2003, 6:09 pm

Speeding tickets <9mph doesn't go on insurance. Also your first ticket will not result in any points, and seeing as how you only did 5 over, it will most likely be thrown out.

Mplor · Post by **Mplor** » February 17, 2003, 6:09 pm

Dunno much about it, but I get tickets all the time and my insurance premium has never gone up. Last one was right after I bought my new car and was testing it out on the interstate. The cop was facing the other direction in the median, clocking oncoming traffic, but I think the shockwave buffeting his car as I rocketed past at 120+ tipped him off that I was speeding. When he told me he was writing me up for 90 in a 75, I figured he never even got his gun around in time to clock me, lol.

A blemish on your record may not matter a lick.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 17, 2003, 6:18 pm

Zamtuk wrote:Speeding tickets <9mph doesn't go on insurance. Also your first ticket will not result in any points, and seeing as how you only did 5 over, it will most likely be thrown out.

That's more than likely a matter of local/state law and/or whatever particular insurance company you deal with. Around here the first ticket most certainly results in points.

Pyronius Flamebringer · February 17, 2003, 7:33 pm

1. If your speeding your saying "Collect Tax Money Here"

2. In Wisconsin they can ticket you for going 1 mile over.

Pleading your case to the judge is the only plausable thing I can forsee you doing however the judge also reserves the right to raise your fine and point loss. As far as insurance not going up for speeding tickets under 9 miles per hour that is by company and I know all 3 companies Ive been under go up per ticket reguardless of speed.

If you dont want a ticket just gotta play it safe, want to urk the cops drive 5 mph under the speed limit while they are following you.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » February 18, 2003, 11:10 am

Ok...too lazy to use the quote feature..

1) About the comment that not telling the company what tickets you have when you get your quote...all that manages is to get you a new/higher bill when your MVR and Claim information is verified. This can take a couple days to finish, so prepare for two bills in the mail once you start that policy. The only reason the company will ask you what accidents/violations you have had is so the quote will be as close to "real" as possible. They will find out through the state or a Claims Loss database which is shared by most companies.

2) About tickets not affecting your "record"....This one is different. The state may have a point system to determine things like restricted licenses, filings (SR-22) required, suspension, revokation, etc. The insurance companies look at each ticket as a statistic. If someone has 3 speeding tickets, they are x% more likely to have an accident. Each ticket or accident (for which you are at fault...except for CA that I know of) will "cost points". Points differ based on the violation. There are only a few states where the first speeding ticket, or tickets under a certain speed are not counted. Points charged towards your premum and the rates tied to those points have to be approved by the state before any insurance company can use them.

3) Tickets not showing up on record.... I have seen several people who's policy raised a couple years after the ticket. The reason this happens is that not all insurance companies pull your MVR every time your policy renews. While the one I work for will only look at the accident/violation for 35 months after the date it happened, it can show up with only 6 months to spare from that time limit! In other words, not seeing an increase now does not mean you will not see it in the future. Also, some companies look back at all violations for a longer period of time, or might look at particular violations for a longer period of time. For instance in CA, we look at DUI's for 7 years (for tracking whether you really are a good driver, not for points), and all other violations for 36 months.

There are multiple factors that go into figuring your rates. Just a few are: Sex / Age / Driving Record (Accidents/Violations) / Vehicle (High Performance, Safety, Durability) / The area that you live in (How many claims and what type are happening around your area..this can be by zip code or smaller in some states) / Credit (In some states...mostly just used to determine what bill plan you would qualify for in many states). These are just the ones that I can remember this early....time to go get ready for work now!

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » February 18, 2003, 11:36 am

My favorite was for "excessive accerleration". I came out of second gear at ~70, cop caught up to me a while later. I tried to use the "my clutch slipped" excuse, he wasn't buying it. The GS 550E I had at the time would blow away just about anything on the road up to ~100

Living in a small town sucked, they'd just go wait for me at the house rather than go through the bother pulling me over.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » February 18, 2003, 11:50 am

Try getting pulled over for that by a bicycle cop! Happened in the small town in Kansas I used to live in when I was riding home with a friend. He didn't even spin the tires and they got him for that. I had to laugh at him for several days since it was a bike cop that was right next to us talking at the red light which pulled him over.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » February 18, 2003, 12:04 pm

>hasn't gotten a ticket since 1986 btw. What your driving is more important that what you're doing as far as getting pulled over goes.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 18, 2003, 2:27 pm

kyoukan type-R wrote:wow xan what macho profession haven't you been? From crack air force sniper to police officer. That must have been a pretty big change. I honestly don't how you have the time to get in all that bull fighting and freelance stuntman work.

I saw that coming : )

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 18, 2003, 2:45 pm

Boogahz wrote:Try getting pulled over for that by a bicycle cop!

hehe, in college I was in a "high speed" chase with a bicyle cop on and near the campus while on a bicycle myself. No EQ for me back then so I was in shape and outpeddled that mofo! The skills developed riding my Big Wheel as a kid certainly aided in my escape.

Riding a bike around campus was much more dangerous than being in a car. Arizona State University had a huge campus and if you had 10 minutes between classes to get from one side to the other you had to play Deathrace 2000 to get there on time.

Don't they have "waste of natural resource" tickets back east? I was stopped on my way back to Phoenix from Las Vegas for going 5-15 mph over the speed limit and the cop let me off with one of those. It doesn't go on your record and you just pay a fine.

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » February 18, 2003, 3:31 pm

kyoukan type-R wrote:wow xan what macho profession haven't you been? From crack air force sniper to police officer. That must have been a pretty big change. I honestly don't how you have the time to get in all that bull fighting and freelance stuntman work.

I actually started off in outlaw-retail, working in southern St. Johns... was selling used tampons to a moronic Canadian bitch that would later move to Vancouver. The problem with that though, was this bitch was using these used tampons as well as un-rippened bananas as tools of masterbation, while dreaming of macho Xanuhunk back at the outlaw-retail store.

So to live up to your dreams potential, I then enlisted in the USAF as a Police Officer, during my first tour at Beale AFB in CA, I worked in the reserves for the Yuba Co. police force. That is where some of my police experience comes from, as that was the only assignment where I used radar or ever wrote a traffic ticket.

When my tour at Beale was over, I left the regular line of duty to work with Nuclear weapons at Balikesir AFD in Turkey. It was a NATO strike base that housed 30 tactical warheads that could be delivered via F16 on stikes to the southern Soviet Union. That base is now inactive and no longer maintains nuclear weapons.

During my initial training, I completed extension tech schools that taught heavy weaponry, Mark 19 Automatic Grenade launcher at Fort Dix NJ, Claymore Mines, LAW Rocketry, M-60 Machine gun specialist as well as completed the US Army expert marksmanship course at Fort Benning GA. I was going to goto Jump School while at Fort Benning and become Airborne, but I am getting too old now, nearing 30 and I plan on keeping whats left of my knees.

So yes, I used to be what you could call "macho" in terms of relating it to my work, but now I am a very relaxed and secluded man who plays online computer games for enjoyment and I feel I have done enough of the outdoors stuff to be able to say, I have done my time.

As of now, I am still in the Military, but retrained into the Meteorology field. Indoor work for the most part, I just supervise junior enlisted personel. We produce Weather Forecasts for the World Meteorological Organization and Joint Army-Air Force Weather Network, those forecasts are what military planners use to conduct exercises as well as all airlines use for route planning, diversions and scheduling. Also the North American defense flights for those Noble Eagle missions, protecting the skies of the US and Canada fly off my products.

What have you done K-y?

Pyronius Flamebringer · February 18, 2003, 3:54 pm

Kyou shat herself once while playing an exciting game of frisby golf

miir · Post by **miir** » February 18, 2003, 4:59 pm

Your sig is pretty gay.

Xanupox · Post by **Xanupox** » February 18, 2003, 5:05 pm

miir wrote:Your sig is pretty gay.

If you're talking about MY sig, well... if you look close enough you will see the 5th Jedi from the left is really ME! I was a Jedi before I was a cop, but I shouldnt be telling anyone about that... its against the NDA.

Gung · Post by **Gung** » February 18, 2003, 5:12 pm

Xannycakes!!

Ease up on us Newfs, yo. St. John's rules! =)

(I can't speak for that other dude, tho)

Gung
RETIRED!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 18, 2003, 5:30 pm

man your delusional ramblings get funnier and funnier.

miir · Post by **miir** » February 18, 2003, 5:52 pm

funny, but not 'ha ha' funny

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » February 18, 2003, 7:12 pm

Hehe, I remember going to visit my folks and getting pulled over doing 55 in a 25 and I told the Cop
PLEase GOD JUST FOLLOW ME HOME SEE THAT HOUSE DOWN THERE PLEASE JESUS GOD JUST FOLLOW ME THERE I HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM REALLY REALLY BAD YOU CAN WRITE THE TICKET IN MY KITCHEN BUT PLEASE JESUS GOD LET ME GO, THE HOUSE IS RIGHT THERE PLEASE>
the officer was obviously flabbergasted and the only thing he could say was.
"Go son go!"
so I turned my car on and zipped down the road to my parents house and just to make the scene convincing I even did the "I have to poopoo really bad dance" walking into my parents house. The cop drove past and kept going.
=)

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