Best song of the 90s...

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 13, 2003, 11:36 am

kyoukan type-R wrote:Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back
....
So ladies if the butt is round
And you wanna triple X throw down

Not sure about best song of the decade but this is the best rap song. If you can get a bunch of white boys singing it and skinny women trying to shake their asses to the song, then you've got a hit.

Millie wrote:
Nirvana - "The Man Who Sold the World" (An awesome cover of perhaps Bowie's best song. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was more influential, but not nearly as great)

Yes, a cover song as the best song. ug. Someone get out Kurt's shotgun and reload it for the next person that votes a cover song as one of the top songs of a decade.

Considering all the different genres of music from both the 80's and 90's, it's too hard to pick a single song to capture the decade. A top ten would work very well for this though or breaking it down into categories a little bit more.

Nirvana = Grunge generation, beginning of Generation X, hands down
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Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit" - 1991

What other song could be as influential as this? What other song could re-arrange the cultural landscape so drastically is such short time? What other song's video could set MTV on fire? What other song could anchor an unheard-of grunge band to knock the invincible Michael Jackson off the top of charts? What other song could be so impossibly simple in structure, yet have such a meteoric impact? What other song could be the best, most original and most influential of the decade but this one? Try to name another one.

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Personally, I think the Red Hot Chili Peppers are a great time capsule band for the 90's as well but only as part of the 90's package., Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Right Said Fred..on and on.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 14, 2003, 10:13 am

"Longview" by Green Day

That song sums up the 90's pretty well.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » February 14, 2003, 10:45 am

Pearl Jam is my favorite band.

Top 10 pearl jam songs:

1. Release (Ten)
2. Black (Ten)
3. Garden (Ten)
4. Tremor Christ (Vitology)
5. Immortality (Vitology)
6. Elderly Woman Behind the Counter... (Vs.)
7. Off He Goes (No Code)
8. Rats (Vs.)
9. Corduroy (Vitology)
10. Ocean (Ten)

All other Pearl Jam songs are tied for 11th.

Pearl Jam's music is timeless. The band that captured the essence of the 90's the best I think is Chili Peppers. Californication was their best album.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » February 14, 2003, 1:50 pm

Souldinkou Soulfury wrote:Bulls on Parade-RatM.

This song makes me wanna break something. hehe So does Fucking Hostile - Pantera and Snap your fingers, snap your neck - Prong

Xyun wrote: Top 10 pearl jam songs:

1. Release (Ten)
2. Black (Ten)
3. Garden (Ten)
4. Tremor Christ (Vitology)
5. Immortality (Vitology)
6. Elderly Woman Behind the Counter... (Vs.)
7. Off He Goes (No Code)
8. Rats (Vs.)
9. Corduroy (Vitology)
10. Ocean (Ten)

For me, it would be:

1. Yellow Ledbetter
2. Black
3. Alive
4. Better Man
5. Even Flow
6. Daughter
7. Jeremy
8. Why Go
9. Animal
10. Dissident

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 14, 2003, 2:09 pm

Most Rage songs make me want to break something. They are one of the best bands of all time IMO.

Millie · Post by **Millie** » February 14, 2003, 3:03 pm

Winnow wrote:Yes, a cover song as the best song. ug. Someone get out Kurt's shotgun and reload it for the next person that votes a cover song as one of the top songs of a decade.

You demonstrate just how little you know about music when you make a statement like that. More than half of many major artists' signature songs are covers. Just because someone else did it first, doesn't mean you can't make a masterpiece of it with your own rendition. Hell, 75% of early Led Zeppelin songs are covers of old Yardbirds material, and I don't see anyone giving Zeppelin shit.

Before you post your inevitable reply, I invite you to listen to Bowie's and Nirvana's versions of "The Man Who Sold the World." Both are great songs. Both are also completely different songs in many ways. To discount Nirvana's version, simply because it's not the first, would be ludicrous.

Millie · Post by **Millie** » February 14, 2003, 3:11 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Most Rage songs make me want to break something. They are one of the best bands of all time IMO.

Rage turned out some catchy songs with awesome drum/bass hooks, but their message got a little preachy for my taste. They were spouting highschool-caliber Karl Marx, then pretending that they weren't enjoying all the commercial success their album sales brought them. They became good musicians, hampered by downright stupid lyrics.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 14, 2003, 3:47 pm

Rage is one of the only political bands I have ever seen that were dedicated and active even when not on stage. They donated countless time and money to a wide range of controversial causes. They earned my respect for following through with thier ideals as well as believeing in the music they sang. I cannot think of very many bands that could hold a candle to Rage's fierce and relentless political views.

"Bulls on Parade"--

Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
I walk tha corner to tha rubble that used to be a library
Line up to tha mind cemetary now
What we don't know keeps tha contracts alive an movin'
They don't gotta burn tha books they just remove 'em
While arms warehouses fill as quick as tha cells
Rally round tha family, pockets full of shells

"Know Your Enemy"--

Word is born
Fight the war, fuck the norm
Now I got no patience
So sick of complacence
With the D the E the F the I the A the N the C the E
Mind of a revolutionary
So clear the lane
The finger to the land of the chains
What? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy

"Take the Power Back"--

So called facts are fraud
They want us to allege and pledge
And bow down to their God
Lost the culture, the culture lost
Spun our minds and through time
Ignorance has taken over
Yo, we gotta take the power back!
Bam! Here's the plan
Motherfuck Uncle Sam
Step back, I know who I am
Raise up your ear, I'll drop the style and clear
It's the beats and the lyrics they fear
The rage is relentless
We need a movement with a quickness
You are the witness of change
And to counteract
We gotta take the power back

Yeah, we gotta take the power back
Come on, come on!
We gotta take the power back

The present curriculum
I put my fist in 'em
Eurocentric every last one of 'em
See right through the red, white and blue disguise
With lecture I puncture the structure of lies
Installed in our minds and attempting
To hold us back
We've got to take it back
'Cause holes in our spirit causin' tears and fears
One-sided stories for years and years and years
I'm inferior? Who's inferior?
Yea, we need to check the interior
Of the system that cares about only one culture
And that is why
We gotta take the power back

Hell, I better stop before I post every song they ever wrote. Stupid lyrics? I think Rage lyrics were more thoughtful and personal than 90% of the music I have ever heard in my lifetime. The fact that they also had a crushing, original sound was just a bonus. I understand how you could find them too preachy. Entertainment was not the reason they wrote thier songs.

As far as thier success, you won't find too many bands that were as hard to work with than Rage. They didn't do corporate sponsored pubilcity, no record signings, late night television appearances, magazine articles, ect., and they were a PITA at every single music industry event they were involved in. (SNL, MTV music awards, Grammies)

Suffice it to say Millie, I couldn't disagree more and I feel your opinion is very off the cuff and not well thought out.

emmer · Post by **emmer** » February 14, 2003, 3:57 pm

Weezer - Blue Album.

Dr. Dre's the Chronic/Snoop's Doggystyle come in at a close second.

Third, I would go with any of Orbital's releases during the 90's, including In Sides, Snivilisation, and the Middle of Nowhere.

Somewhere underneath that would be Radiohead's - The Bends.

rhyae · Post by **rhyae** » February 14, 2003, 4:58 pm

miir wrote:Best album of the 90s has got to be:

Radiohead : The Bends

Amen

Songs: I Stay Away - Alice in Chains, or ok almost anything by Alice in Chains or Mad Season, Heaven beside you, Rooster, Man in the Box.

Also loved me some WideSpread Panic.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 14, 2003, 6:10 pm

Millie wrote: ludicrous.

ludicrous!

Zeppelin is exempt from anything I said about cover songs. My comments about cover songs refer to songs from the 80's on.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » February 14, 2003, 8:23 pm

Oh, obviously! hehe

Momopi · Post by **Momopi** » February 14, 2003, 8:37 pm

Shaerra wrote:For me, it would be:

1. Yellow Ledbetter
2. Black
3. Alive
4. Better Man
5. Even Flow
6. Daughter
7. Jeremy
8. Why Go
9. Animal
10. Dissident

What the.....where is corduroy? That is easily their best song ><

Millie · Post by **Millie** » February 14, 2003, 10:45 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Stupid lyrics? I think Rage lyrics were more thoughtful and personal than 90% of the music I have ever heard in my lifetime. The fact that they also had a crushing, original sound was just a bonus. I understand how you could find them too preachy. Entertainment was not the reason they wrote thier songs.

Zach de la Rocha also owns a $15 million mansion and a fleet of automobiles. I'm sorry, but I find that a tad bit hypocritical for a man who claims to have been fighting the excesses and evils of capitalism.

I'm not arguing that Rage had a catchy sound, but their lyrics annoy me to no end.

They didn't do corporate sponsored pubilcity, no record signings, late night television appearances, magazine articles, ect., and they were a PITA at every single music industry event they were involved in. (SNL, MTV music awards, Grammies)

That was certainly true, up until the point where they sold out. It's up for debate precisely when that line was crossed, but most would say it happened when they decided to play out their singles on TRL.

Suffice it to say Millie, I couldn't disagree more and I feel your opinion is very off the cuff and not well thought out.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. It's a matter of subjective taste here. There's no real "right" or "wrong," much less a "thought out" vs. "not well thought out."

murr · Post by **murr** » February 15, 2003, 3:44 am

Weezer > all
The Enlightenment Tour fuckin owned..so much Pinkerton played..ahoidsifjsdfiojsd

Souldinkou Soulfury · February 15, 2003, 5:02 am

Well for rap I think Gangsters Paradise by Coolio was really good, but I didnt listen to much rap back then.

Still I love RAtM because it doesnt matter what anyone's view is on it, its probably some of the best talent ever to hit in my perspective. I don't mean to be ignorant by saying I dont care if its hypocritical or not when De La Rocha is a millionare but preaches about fighting our government and taking militant action on what ever.. Its pretty much like listening to rap for the beat, not for pimpin women and drivin cadillac trucks 24s with 10s.

As for Weezer.. what Murr Durr said. Their old stuff rocks, and so does their new music. Any band that can stay togather and sound progressively better then the previous, yet have the skill to make all albums equally great is..

Same for Tool, Radio Head, and Nirvana.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » February 15, 2003, 4:25 pm

Lots of stuff I love are up there... so I am gonna put one up noone has. Poe... haunted

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » February 15, 2003, 10:25 pm

"In the Pines" was another kickass cover song by Nirvana. My favorite Nirvana song probably.