Playstation anti-war ad

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 12, 2003, 7:51 pm

http://www.eurogamer.net/files/sonytvad.mpg

weird for a corporation to be taking a political stance. maybe they are terrorists?!?!

I think it goes to show how unpopular this invasion is though, if a corporation like Sony would try something like this.

Plus, the ad is kinda funny.

Xaem · Post by **Xaem** » February 12, 2003, 7:56 pm

Anyone that seems to do anything that would be deemed as unamerican as being anti-war or anti-bush or things of that nature should most definately be deemed terrorists! After all with this new Freedom act coming out we should all watch what we say about anything having to do with our president or invading iraq or anything that can be deemed the slightest bit un-american because before we know it they will be ass-governing us by bombarding our houses with sekr1t video cameras and l33t phone taps...

...Reading that again, maybe all of this Crack Cocaine is making me paranoid!...

Soreali · Post by **Soreali** » February 12, 2003, 8:24 pm

With games like Ghost Recon out for PS2 I don't understand what they're doing here.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » February 12, 2003, 8:43 pm

Soreali wrote:With games like Ghost Recon out for PS2 I don't understand what they're doing here.

One is digital characters firing at other digital characters in a fake digital world inside your TV. Another is ripping peoples lives away with pieces of metal and large explosions. Some people can seperate the game from the reality. Others should be kept away from a Playstation at all costs.

I caught a little blurb of a nature piece on TV last night about Shark Attacks, and how when one happens the media tends to blow it out of preportions. How dare the shark act on instinct and attack the thing swimming through the water! Usually, these lead to something called a culling. A hunt, where they kill as many of them as they can to "keep the popullation in check". I couldn't help but wonder if the sharks are culling us? Maybe VV needs a culling.

Soreali · Post by **Soreali** » February 12, 2003, 9:02 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:
Soreali wrote:With games like Ghost Recon out for PS2 I don't understand what they're doing here.
One is digital characters firing at other digital characters in a fake digital world inside your TV. Another is ripping peoples lives away with pieces of metal and large explosions. Some people can seperate the game from the reality. Others should be kept away from a Playstation at all costs.

Which was made due to the original Gulf War. What I'm trying to say is you figure they'd take this as a chance for another video game.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 12, 2003, 9:08 pm

Soreali wrote:Which was made due to the original Gulf War. What I'm trying to say is you figure they'd take this as a chance for another video game.

I thought Ghost Recon was mostly about Soviet seperatists and hardline communists from the old era.

You are sort of missing the whole point of the ad tho...

noel · Post by **noel** » February 12, 2003, 9:09 pm

I believe it's, 'SOCOM - US Navy Seals' that is based on the Gulf War, and as Kyoukan said, 'Ghost Recon' based on Soviet seperatists.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 12, 2003, 9:22 pm

What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » February 12, 2003, 9:32 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.

You are too funny. Just how detached from reality must one be to equate video game violence to be comparable to war?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 12, 2003, 9:33 pm

Forthe wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.
You are too funny. Just how detached from reality must one be to equate video game violence to be comparable to war?

They did in their ad fucktard! ROFL

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » February 12, 2003, 9:34 pm

Ooooo, Navy Seals!

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » February 12, 2003, 9:52 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Forthe wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.
You are too funny. Just how detached from reality must one be to equate video game violence to be comparable to war?
They did in their ad fucktard! ROFL

No, they didn't. They used their medium (videogames) to put across a message about a REAL LIFE issue that will cost many lives. They make billions from videogame violence (among other games), but that's all it is, videogames. Are they killing anyone? Kids minds don't count btw in this instance

Basically, you're incapable of an unbiased opinion, as are most of us here. Your answers will always follow a certain vein, one that any regular here can probably take a guess at what your reply would be and be fairly damned close. Here's my guess:

"Leave it to a bleeding heart Liberal to cry about war and still play violent videogames. What a hypocrite! How soon people forget the outrage of 9-11 and how we gotta get back at all the dirty muslim towelheads for that. And while we're at it, we may as well go free the slant eyes in North Korea since it's out GOD GIVEN RIGHT to protect ourselves in any way possible. GOD BLESS McAMERICA!"

Ok, maybe I got carried away with it, but I'm sure a few people chuckled. Anyways, yes, I'm left-wing in my views. Yes, I'm not a fan of war. Yes, I think you cowboys in charge of the country are some pretty ignorant bastards by and large. Yes, I still remember 9-11, remember what happened, remember the outrage, and I still feel it; without being an American. Yes, I'm all for cutting off Taliban heads and shitting down their throats. But this war with Iraq is not that. Oh sure, you're pre-emptively striking Iraq to avoid some hypothetical atrocity they'll commit against you in the future. You guys wonder why most of the world is against the war? Who's to say France won't do the same to you at some point in the future of our world? Cambodia? Venezuella? Australia? Let's face it, in every country there's people that hate America. May as well launch tactical strikes at all the nations of the world, naysayer's be damned. Hell, I'm fully expecting a crackdown on naysayer's in America any day now.

I know, I know, gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette. I wonder what you'll think when you're an egg that got unlucky. Probably, 'Damned liberals'.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » February 12, 2003, 9:55 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Forthe wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.
You are too funny. Just how detached from reality must one be to equate video game violence to be comparable to war?
They did in their ad fucktard! ROFL

Symbolism too complex for you?

I'll make it a little simpler for you.

The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted.

Now here is the point so pay attention. The violence you mention .... IT ISN'T REAL!!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 12, 2003, 9:55 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Forthe wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.
You are too funny. Just how detached from reality must one be to equate video game violence to be comparable to war?
They did in their ad fucktard! ROFL

Wooosh as the point of the ad flies over your head and crashes into everything else flying over your head.

Post by **pyrella** » February 12, 2003, 10:11 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.

Just out of morbid curiosity....did you even watch the commercial? More importantly, in these "violent" games portrayed - did you see what the characters were doing? Maybe turn the sound off to focus more on the visual....

Post by **Xouqoa** » February 12, 2003, 11:00 pm

kyoukan type-R wrote:I thought Ghost Recon was mostly about Soviet seperatists and hardline communists from the old era.

Ghost Recon takes place in the year 2008 when a group of Soviet hardliners rise up to take power in Russia and intend to reestablish the old USSR by taking over the (now independent) countries.

Cool commercial, kudos to Sony for having the guts to vocalize their viewpoint on the issue.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » February 12, 2003, 11:09 pm

i thought the ad just didnt quite do it.

i dont care at all about the political angle one way or the other. they want to buy advertising space and make a political statement go for it. it's their money.

my point is that i just think the spot wasnt very good. i think they didnt deliver on the concept very well in the final implementation.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 12, 2003, 11:25 pm

pyrella wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.

Just out of morbid curiosity....did you even watch the commercial? More importantly, in these "violent" games portrayed - did you see what the characters were doing? Maybe turn the sound off to focus more on the visual....

ummm yeah...they used games known for their violence to make a statement to the opposite. I find the irony and hypocrasy in it. I'm sorry you do not.

Kreugen · Post by **Kreugen** » February 12, 2003, 11:40 pm

Bleh, the PS2 version of this anti war ad was shit. The grahpics were horrible, there were no real time shadows, and the loading time.. GOD.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 13, 2003, 1:14 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:ummm yeah...they used games known for their violence to make a statement to the opposite. I find the irony and hypocrasy in it. I'm sorry you do not.

the irony is the entire point.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE DENSE

Soreali · Post by **Soreali** » February 13, 2003, 1:26 am

Sorry. Mean Conflict: Desert Storm

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » February 13, 2003, 11:06 am

kyoukan type-R wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Forthe wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:What an awful ad. Shameful. The same company who makes billions from violence, pulls one over on the dimb-witted. Did they also make an announcement that they will no longer partake in the propagation of violent gaming? No, ofcourse not. Easy to ask other to change their stripes, when you yourself have no intent to do so yourself.
You are too funny. Just how detached from reality must one be to equate video game violence to be comparable to war?
They did in their ad fucktard! ROFL
Wooosh as the point of the ad flies over your head and crashes into everything else flying over your head.

Heh, must be a traffic jam up there

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 13, 2003, 11:11 am

I thought it was pretty cool IMO. That ad will stick with OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of people. I overheard some teenagers talking about it at the mall last night.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 13, 2003, 11:11 am

Yeah it is. All things I don't get by the intelligent people like Kyo, Chidoro, Forthe and the like. Maybe I should start taking night classes for my master's, then maybe I could understand the enlightened vision of life and the world you all share.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » February 13, 2003, 11:24 am

Kreugen wrote:Bleh, the PS2 version of this anti war ad was shit. The grahpics were horrible, there were no real time shadows, and the loading time.. GOD.

ROFL!!!

Braxter · Post by **Braxter** » February 13, 2003, 11:38 am

pyrella wrote:Just out of morbid curiosity....did you even watch the commercial? More importantly, in these "violent" games portrayed - did you see what the characters were doing? Maybe turn the sound off to focus more on the visual....

it's too subtle py. few will or did notice it.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » February 13, 2003, 7:21 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Yeah it is. All things I don't get by the intelligent people like Kyo, Chidoro, Forthe and the like. Maybe I should start taking night classes for my master's, then maybe I could understand the enlightened vision of life and the world you all share.

Don't bother, you're not capable of it.

Bwuza · Post by **Bwuza** » February 13, 2003, 7:41 pm

HAHAHAHA omg so true dregor ^^

observers · Post by **observers** » February 13, 2003, 7:48 pm

Desert storm just released.. SONY needs a huge dose of STFU

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » February 13, 2003, 7:59 pm

observers wrote:Desert storm just released.. SONY needs a huge dose of STFU

The fucking nerve of Sony to campaign against killing people when their games make money of killing virtual people with virtual weapons!

Whats next?!!? Rockstar games coming out and campaigning against car thieves???

Fucking hypocrites!

Soriathus Serpentine · February 13, 2003, 8:16 pm

Yes Sony does release game titles on their console that are violent. Yes they have realistic war like and shootem games. But you know what, I applaud them for saying "No war, please." It's a very powerful thing. And ok yes they made the commercial THROUGH violent games, but that was to get your attention, to get the attention of the youth of america, to make the statement, that video games, yeah it's fun to blow the crap out of people, kill dragons, steal cars. But war is serious, people die, economies get fucked up, and heaven forbid a nuke or biological warfare gets involved. Especially since now we have countries who are stepping up and saying to the US to stop it like France and Germany. The United Nations countries are not longer either for us or neautral, now we have for us, neutral, and against our decisions to invade Iraq.

Who cares about the violent video games. I care about not going to war and /cheer to Sony. Flame me all you want, flame Sony all you want, see the big picture. It scares me every day reading the front page of the newspaper. Just on the news last night they said "What if China targeted Oregon?", think about that after Northern China a month ago publically stated they are going to become a nuklear power. I no longer go throughout my day feeling 100% safe and comforatable. Yes I know our boys are doing the best they think they can to protect us, but no defensive plan is 100% effective.

I don't like war, I don't like that we are going to war. But are you and I in the thick of it? Are you in the scrutiny and watchful eye of the WORLD on your shoulders watching you EVERY move? Yeah I didn't vote for Bush, I think he's a prick, that doesn't make me unamerican, just my opinion. But even all this said, I support our troops and the decisions (like them or not)of our president, I'm proud to be an American. But I'll still speak up and voice my opinion about war.

So again /applaud Sony. /rude to those people who are flaming Sony and/or the gaming industry.

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