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Evolution Studios' upcoming racing game, DriveClub, has gone "back to the drawing board"

The energy surrounding the upcoming PlayStation 4-exclusive racing game Driveclub has largely gone from excitement to skepticism. Driveclub was one of the first PlayStation 4 games revealed, and comes from Sony-owned Evolution Studio, a developer that not only understands the racing genre (it made its name on the MotorStorm franchise), but a developer that undoubtedly had very early access to PlayStation 4.
Drive Club (PS4 exclusive) was delayed yet again. Just thought I'd mention it!

Another one of those great Sony owned developers. Guess it's not as big a deal as the other AAA PS4 exclusive that was totally cancelled. Multiple delays and fading enthusiasm is better than no game at all. Should probably celebrate that it wasn't entirely cancelled.
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I think sending DriveClub back to the drawing board is great news, just like UbiSoft delaying Watch Dogs. There's enough shitty games out there, give me great ones. Take your time, I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
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Winnow wrote:Drive Club (PS4 exclusive) was delayed yet again.
You should say "still delayed" since "delayed yet again" is just wrong. That would would seem to indicate they gave a release date when it was originally delayed. Which they didn't so... Yeah. Nice try!

Not sure why games being delayed bothers anyone, whether they prefer Xbox or PlayStation. Pushing out games just to meet some mythical date is just bad for gamers. I think most rational people would say release them when they are ready.

But you're not rational so... Have at it.
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It was originally a launch title...delayed...now delayed again to try an make an actual fun game.
Fairweather Pure wrote:I think sending DriveClub back to the drawing board is great news, just like UbiSoft delaying Watch Dogs. There's enough shitty games out there, give me great ones. Take your time, I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
I'm sure you'll say that again with delay #3 as well. Great canned response! Considering the PS4 is desperate for a decent exclusive and other PS4 exclusives are being outright cancelled, it's not good news but you can spin it that way again the next delay. This isn't just a delay, it's a total revamp because the Sony owned studio could not make a good game and cancelled whatever else they had going.
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Winnow wrote:It was originally a launch title...delayed...now delayed again to try an make an actual fun game.
Again.. Not 'delayed again'. Just because some journalist asked them a release date and they said there isn't one doesn't mean it was delayed AGAIN. It's STILL DELAYED. They never gave a release date from when it was bumped from being a launch title. But be dense about it if you want. Since you will anyway.
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Smart not to give release dates for PS4 titles considering their track record so far. They did a nice job marketing the PS4 console with clips from Drive Club though. Maybe it was all just a marketing scam to make it look like they had a decent racing game for launch. Sounds accurate considering a once launch day title now has no launch date anytime soon. They were full of shit.
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Winnow wrote:It was originally a launch title...delayed...now delayed again to try an make an actual fun game.
Fairweather Pure wrote:I think sending DriveClub back to the drawing board is great news, just like UbiSoft delaying Watch Dogs. There's enough shitty games out there, give me great ones. Take your time, I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.
I'm sure you'll say that again with delay #3 as well. Great canned response! Considering the PS4 is desperate for a decent exclusive and other PS4 exclusives are being outright cancelled, it's not good news but you can spin it that way again the next delay. This isn't just a delay, it's a total revamp because the Sony owned studio could not make a good game and cancelled whatever else they had going.
Why would I care a game is delayed? I'm not 12yrs old. I have no problems waiting to play video games.
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Fairweather Pure wrote:Why would I care a game is delayed? I'm not 12yrs old. I have no problems waiting to play video games.
Because a PS4 game being late shows Sony sucks and that the XBO is the superior console. OBVIOUSLY.
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Oh I don't know:
Will PS4 and Xbox One Sales Suffer Due to Lack of Games?

Sony's (NYSE: SNE ) PlayStation 4 has sold more units than Microsoft's (NASDAQ: MSFT ) Xbox One, but both companies may be in the same boat when it comes to a lack of developer interest in making games for the new consoles. The third player in the game, Nintendo (NasdaqOTH: NTDOF) may be in even more dire straits as interest in creating games for its WiiU platform is almost nonexistent.

According to a poll conducted by the Game Developers Conference, only 20% of developers surveyed said they intend to release their next game on Sony's PlayStation 4.
I'd be a little concerned if I was such a Sony suck up as you people. (it's for Gamerzzzz derrrr!) They're cancelling exclusive games outright and delaying others. Xbox One clearly has had the better exclusives so far, partially because PS4 has pretty much had jack shit for exclusives. For a system so god damned miraculously easy to program for as the PS4 is supposed to be, I wonder why they can't manage to match Microsoft with interesting games.

You don't need to "care" about it. Most people don't care about much. Microsoft is getting the job done better than Sony for actual content so far.
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Winnow wrote:Oh I don't know:
Will PS4 and Xbox One Sales Suffer Due to Lack of Games?

Sony's PlayStation 4 has sold more units than Microsoft's Xbox One, but both companies may be in the same boat when it comes to a lack of developer interest in making games for the new consoles. The third player in the game, Nintendo may be in even more dire straits as interest in creating games for its WiiU platform is almost nonexistent.

According to a poll conducted by the Game Developers Conference, only 20% of developers surveyed said they intend to release their next game on Sony's PlayStation 4.
I'd be a little concerned if I was such a Sony suck up as you people. (it's for Gamerzzzz derrrr!) They're cancelling exclusive games outright and delaying others. Xbox One clearly has had the better exclusives so far, partially because PS4 has pretty much had jack shit for exclusives. For a system so god damned miraculously easy to program for as the PS4 is supposed to be, I wonder why they can't manage to match Microsoft with interesting games.

You don't need to "care" about it. Most people don't care about much. Microsoft is getting the job done better than Sony for actual content so far.
lol you're a riot. Did you even read the headline or article. If you're worried about PS4 than according to that you should be just as worried about Xbox One. Even moreso if you didn't like to cherry pick your quotes which is the usual MO for you. You're like the FOX News of VV. Why do I say that? Oh maybe because more developers say they intend to release their next game on PS4 than they do on XBO:
With the new generation of game consoles still in their infancy, 20 percent of developers surveyed said they intend to release their next game on Sony's PlayStation 4. That edges out Xbox One's 17 percent
You didn't seem to be banging the exclusives drum in the 360/PS3 days when Sony was crushing MS. Can you even name 5 retail 360 exclusives that have came out since Jan 2013? MS has pretty much abandoned the 360 while the PS3 keeps getting love. But keep on being such a Microsoft suck up. You're doing a bang up job.

Regardless, you're making too much out of an UNANNOUNCED game being cancelled (because yeah that never happens ever) and another game being delayed WHICH HOLY SHIT NEVER HAPPENS EITHER IN THE VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY. Hello Watch Dogs? To name a recent example which also supposed to be a launch title. Not exclusive but that's not the point. Even Titanfall on the 360 was delayed 2 weeks although I think everyone knows the real reason for that one.
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Aslanna wrote: lol you're a riot. Did you even read the headline or article.
Of course I read it. People complain of excessive quoting so I had to clip the quote off somewhere! And 3% less sure doesn't seem to have hurt the exclusives being pumped out for the Xbox One compared to the PS4 so far. When Sony OWNED developers are cancelling AAA exclusives and delaying indefinitely (back to the drawing board) games that were supposed to be launch day titles, it doesn't look good to me. It looks like a lot of the other way over hyped marketing Sony dished out at E3. What wasn't over hyped? Titanfall. It delivered.

I don't see much of a difference between the two consoles right now. To me, the biggest difference is actual games that people are playing (Garden Warfare, Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Forza). It's unscientific, but on this forum, the Xbox One is killing PS4 where the PS4 is supposed to shine (games and games played). PS4 has a couple FPS advantage and some lines of resolution advantage over XB1 here and there. That is a factor to me but the funnest game I've played recently could have been played on the Wii U (South Park). Content is king.

I'm rooting for both consoles but I don't think the PS4 is as much ahead of the Xbox One as some here think it is in terms of entertainment value.

My advice for consoles would be to own a PS3 and Xbox One right now. PS3 is going strong with some great new titles. Xbox One is the new console to get for the first six months to a year. I always get both but that would be my strategy if I couldn't afford to do what I felt like.
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He tries so hard, it's kinda cute.

Xbox One is the better because of their exclusives, really? What, Forza (huge fucking yawn), and Titanfall? I honestly wasn't very impressed with the couple of hours I played Titanfall last night, and a friend of mine that basically bought the One just for Titanfall after swearing he was done with the Xbox is really disappointed and pissed he even bought it.

Meanwhile, I've probably put more time into playing the games you get for free with PS+ than I have all of the exclusives on both consoles combined.
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Funkmasterr wrote:He tries so hard, it's kinda cute.

Xbox One is the better because of their exclusives, really? What, Forza (huge fucking yawn), and Titanfall? I honestly wasn't very impressed with the couple of hours I played Titanfall last night, and a friend of mine that basically bought the One just for Titanfall after swearing he was done with the Xbox is really disappointed and pissed he even bought it.

Meanwhile, I've probably put more time into playing the games you get for free with PS+ than I have all of the exclusives on both consoles combined.

That would be on the PS3 unless you play those oddball couple games released for PS4 which falls in line with keeping the PS3 around while enjoying the Xbox One for now until Sony can stop delaying and cancelling titles.

I'm sure I'll hear, "Titanfall isn't that great, blah blah". It's good. And why do you mention two titles and not Dead Rising 3 and Garden Warfare or the great PS4 exclusives you've played? The point is there's more than a couple good exclusives on the Xbox One so you did find some that were fun and can actually not have to like every exclusive. Knack cancels out Ryse. The rest is all Xbox One unless there's some secret society of gamers with a private forum raving over Killzone (sequel) somewhere.

People are more cynical each passing day when it comes to expectations on new games. Titanfall delivers what it promised. A fun multiplayer experience.
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Winnow wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:Meanwhile, I've probably put more time into playing the games you get for free with PS+ than I have all of the exclusives on both consoles combined.

That would be on the PS3 unless you play those oddball couple games released for PS4 which falls in line with keeping the PS3 around while enjoying the Xbox One for now until Sony can stop delaying and cancelling titles.
As opposed to those awesome games you get to play for free on the XBO. Oh wait you get jack shit for your $500 + XBL fees. "oddball couple games" (you do know it's a new game every month right? Apparently not) > oddball zero games.
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Oh no a game was delayed. Those developers must suck! The nerve to make a game they think is good rather than rushing it out to make some arbitrary date. I can't fathom it!
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Aslanna wrote:As opposed to those awesome games you get to play for free on the XBO. Oh wait you get jack shit for your $500 + XBL fees. "oddball couple games" (you do know it's a new game every month right? Apparently not) > oddball zero games.
I've never said anything bad about the PN+ games offered on PS3 and Vita. I think that's been great. It's a non factor on the PS4 so far but will become one in a year (well Knack or this dumb MSG prologue game should have been on PN+ immediately as bad as they are) When Sony starts putting out decent freebie games for the PS4, Microsoft needs to step to the plate.

I'm also hoping Playstation Now ends up being good (both good value and reliable) Solid PN+ games on PS4 and if NOW turns out good with no response from Microsoft would cause me to change my mind about the entertainment value between PS4 and Xbox One. I imagine Microsoft will respond but we'll have to wait and see.
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I'm also very interested to see what Sony's VR Headset is all about that should be revealed next week:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/ ... very-soon/

If it has MVIS Picop inside and they solved motion tracking issues (and sickness), it could sway my opinion quite a bit toward PS4. I've been wanting a good VR headset for decades. I'm hoping it's not half-assed and is comparable to something like Oculus Rift. I'm a little worried because they'll probably want to make it cheap enough to be an accessory for the PS4 which might prevent it from having higher resolution, etc. MVIS/SNE PicoP res is 1920x720 16:9 so that may have to do.

Disclaimer: I own stock in both SNE and MVIS

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201402/14-024E/
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OR is native 3D, and Sony's will be as well.

So, you should be out of VR because of the 3D fad and Aslanna can't use VR because of having glasses.
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Fairweather Pure wrote:OR is native 3D, and Sony's will be as well.

So, you should be out of VR because of the 3D fad and Aslanna can't use VR because of having glasses.
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VR headset is different than lame 3D glasses but this would be something that would make 3D viable as you don't need lame active or passive glasses. Imagine your own personal IMAX theater with the option for 3D. I'm stoked and hopeful.
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If putting glasses on is such a pain for you I can't imagine how off putting a VR headset will be.
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Dude, stick to unicycles. You're not making any sense. It's the crappy end result that makes it waste to fuck around with 3D Glasses. 3D on TVs sucks. A VR headset is a totally different beast. It's not a means to an end. It is the end.
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As much as it pains me I have to agree with Winnow on this one. You're not making sense!
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Winnow wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:He tries so hard, it's kinda cute.

Xbox One is the better because of their exclusives, really? What, Forza (huge fucking yawn), and Titanfall? I honestly wasn't very impressed with the couple of hours I played Titanfall last night, and a friend of mine that basically bought the One just for Titanfall after swearing he was done with the Xbox is really disappointed and pissed he even bought it.

Meanwhile, I've probably put more time into playing the games you get for free with PS+ than I have all of the exclusives on both consoles combined.

That would be on the PS3 unless you play those oddball couple games released for PS4 which falls in line with keeping the PS3 around while enjoying the Xbox One for now until Sony can stop delaying and cancelling titles.

I'm sure I'll hear, "Titanfall isn't that great, blah blah". It's good. And why do you mention two titles and not Dead Rising 3 and Garden Warfare or the great PS4 exclusives you've played? The point is there's more than a couple good exclusives on the Xbox One so you did find some that were fun and can actually not have to like every exclusive. Knack cancels out Ryse. The rest is all Xbox One unless there's some secret society of gamers with a private forum raving over Killzone (sequel) somewhere.

People are more cynical each passing day when it comes to expectations on new games. Titanfall delivers what it promised. A fun multiplayer experience.
No, I was talking about the ps4,which is why I said that. Outlast, resogun, dead nation, warframe, don't starve and contrast have all been free on the ps4, and I've definitely played them more than any exclusive. Basement crawl (kinda like poy poy from ps1), Killzone have also been a lot of fun.

I played Titanfall for a couple hours again tonight. I'm not saying it's bad, it just isn't nearly as good as it could have been. It's very unbalanced, whoever starts getting titans first basically wins and there isn't much you can do to turn that around. I find the parkour controls not doing what I want frequently; for example if I'm standing still and jump by a wall, whether I'm facing it or not it should jump and climb up the wall, but if you aren't facing it deaf on it starts a wall run.

I've also verified my theory yet again about how much more prevalent corner camping and general fuckbaggery is way worse in multiplayer on live than PSN, I couldn't believe the cowardly tards I kept playing against.

Another friend of mine got Titanfall today. He played for a bit then said he thought it was "just alright" and went to download battlefield. You're living in a fantasy world sir.

Anyhow, off to play dark souls 2 on the ps3, had a lot more fun with that than Titanfall.
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It's funny Winnow is saying how awesome Titanfall is and all PS4 owners are jealous of it (Hint: We're not) yet I'd be surprised if he actually went out and bought it. Sure, I could be wrong but I'll take that chance.

I watched a few of the overview videos Polygon has done and I honestly just don't see the appeal. However I'm not really into shooters these days so obviously it comes down to personal preference. The graphics don't seem especially great, which makes sense considering it's running on the Source engine, and it just seems spawn, die, respawn. No different than any other FPS other than it has robots.
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Aslanna wrote:It's funny Winnow is saying how awesome Titanfall is and all PS4 owners are jealous of it (Hint: We're not) yet I'd be surprised if he actually went out and bought it. Sure, I could be wrong but I'll take that chance.
I'm not much of an FPSer but we all know most of the console gaming world is with the crazy sales numbers of all FPS games like CoD, Battlefield, Halo, etc. I did have fun with the beta and may eventually pick it up. I wouldn't "go out and buy it" though. I'd digitally purchase it. I had fun with Warframe for a few days when the PS4 launched.

I've spent the last 35 hours of game time on the PS3 with South Park and Atelier Escha and Logy Alchemists of the Dusk. I'll probably stay on the PS3 and play around a little with the HD FFX/FFX-2 and then try out Witch and the Hundred Knight also on the PS3 after that. What's with those crazy game titles?

Mixed in with that I'll be trying out the Project Spark beta which keeps informing me that my beta key will be available tomorrow but then it isn't. Also Monster Hunter on the Vita.

Not sold yet on Second Son.

That's the plan but I don't game all the time. Should be plenty to keep me busy until Watch Dogs and then Destiny.
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everything I've seen of Titanfall reminds me of Shadowrun...and not in a good way
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Boogahz wrote:everything I've seen of Titanfall reminds me of Shadowrun...and not in a good way
best to play it before forming an opinion
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I played a ton of Shadowrun and there are similarities here. Replace the magic with mechs and you're almost there. Shadowrun's main game mode was round based though. You die and that's it until the next round. It was a best of 5 I recall but don't quite me on that, it's been a while.
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PlayStation 4 tops US console sales in February, but Xbox One narrows the gap

It looks like Sony's commanding lead in next-gen console sales didn't last long in the US. The NPD Group reports that the PlayStation 4 was the top-selling game console in the country this February, but only just -- the Xbox One managed to get over 90 percent of the PS4's sales volume. Microsoft says that it sold 258,000 units of its flagship, which suggests that Sony moved roughly 287,000 PS4s. Neither of these figures compare to what we saw during the systems' launch windows, but they're very healthy. Total hardware sales were up 42 percent year-over-year, and 44 percent over January. While Nintendo isn't divulging its numbers, it may have performed relatively well when analysts saw "double-to-triple digit increases" in month-to-month sales for most consoles.

Software was another story. Overall game revenue was down 11 percent in February, and the aging Xbox 360 was the platform of choice for six out of the top 10 releases; the PS4 and Xbox One rarely fared better than second place. The decline isn't surprising, the NPD Group says, since game sales are "expected" to taper off as the old generation makes way for the new. That transition should happen relatively quickly. Titanfall is considered an early system seller for the Xbox One, and high-profile releases like Watch Dogs may help Microsoft and Sony alike.
Looks like no blowout. Xbox 360 is still selling the most games.

Xbox 360 is King and Xbox One is closing in on the stop spot quickly as the marketing hype dies down for PS4 and people realize something wrong as PS4 is for gamerz but there's no games for it.
The PS4 outsold the Xbox One in the US during February, with the Xbox One selling 90 percent of what the PS4 did, consumer research group NPD reports. The Xbox One costs $100 more than the PS4, meaning it led sales by dollar amount in February.

The Xbox One sold 258,000 units in February, surpassing comparable Xbox 360 launch sales by 61 percent, Microsoft says. Xbox 360 sold 114,000 units in its 100th month on the market, "more than any other seventh generation console." Xbox One owners buy an average of 2.75 games per console, with a total of 772,000 sold in February. Xbox 360, meanwhile, sold 2.46 million games.
ye'ole attach rate starting to mean something! The console that's not for "gamerz" sells more games! (keep believing the PS4 marketing hype)
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Winnow wrote:Xbox 360 is King and Xbox One is closing in on the stop spot quickly as the marketing hype dies down for PS4 and people realize something wrong as PS4 is for gamerz but there's no games for it.
I honestly think you have some sort of mental defect.

Anyway, back to PS4 news:
PlayStation 4's augmented reality mini-game compilation The Playroom received a free update today in North America and Europe, adding a new obstacle course challenge featuring the game's tiny robots, Sony revealed today.

"Ninja Bots" sets the Playroom robots on a track across which they must dodge, jump and sprint around obstacles. Oncoming "enemy ronin bots" can be taken down with an endless supply of shuriken ammo and collecting gold coins throughout the track will help boost players' scores.

This free mini-game accommodates up to four players and requires use of the PlayStation Camera and DualShock 4 controller.
I think Double Fine also created 2 free Playroom apps previously. Give them a try!
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This cracks me up!

Sony refusing refunds to people who are accidentally buying stuff on PN while playing Dark Souls II on their PS3s with PS4 controllers.
Ok, most of you will find this funny (I know I would), I'm fuming.

Playing Dark Souls 2 on the PS3 with my PS4 controller, I leave my PS4 on as it's downloading updates.

Turns out the controller can control both at the same time.

So my inputs on Dark Souls buy me FIFA on PS4 (a game I already own) and British Cop skin pack (I don't even know what this is). Get an email on my tablet telling me so.

Ring psn and straight away the guy is just saying "terms of use", "no refunds" etc. £56.68.

Ask to speak to his superior and they won't come on the phone. He then tells me support staff have said it's not possible to control two devices at once. He doesn't seem to believe me.

Half of me wants to trade this in for an Xbox with Titanfall right now.
Yeah, hi. *Raises hand* Me too. Kind of. I had two Dark Souls sessions - at midnight, when the PS4 pad seemed to work fine, and at lunchtime, when I couldn't get it to work. Can't remember why, but it must have been disconnected when I turned the PS3 on, as fixing it took switching everything off, plugging it in (changing USB port at the time), and restarting. Then it worked. When I saw the standby light on the PS4 later on, I figured I'd just turned it on. I was mortified when I saw Battlefield there, and then I noticed that I'd watched a film as well.

I guess it must have been in that time that the PS4 pad wasn't properly connected to the PS3 that it happened. Notwithstanding the distance selling point, I appreciate that I might not have a leg to stand on, but I'll be looking to ask anyway - I can't easily weather a £68 loss. Hell, I have zero interest in Battlefield 4 (hey, if only there was some way of selling on digital content...), if it had been Assassin's Creed 4, or Need for Speed at the same price, or Strider/Trine 2 for £15 or so, I probably could have taken it on the chin. So, yeah, fuming is a word I can get on board with. Guess I'll email Sony
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=785070

Too funny. Should be password protected by default. Maybe it is. I don't recall the PN store setup. I know Sony is desperate for money but this just isn't right!
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All sales are final! I don't see why Sony would be expected to refund anything. Then everyone would come out of the woodwork requesting refunds on things they 'accidentally' bought.

It's a PS4 controller I don't know why people would think the PS4 would not be picking up the signals just because you have your PS3 on as well. 100% a user error.
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Aslanna wrote:All sales are final! I don't see why Sony would be expected to refund anything. Then everyone would come out of the woodwork requesting refunds on things they 'accidentally' bought.

It's a PS4 controller I don't know why people would think the PS4 would not be picking up the signals just because you have your PS3 on as well. 100% a user error.
Yeah, but the PS3 controller is a pain inducing horror show. Can you blame people for wanting to use the PS4 controller on their PS3? More safeguards on the PN store would be appropriate or defaulting to password required (which it might already)

I'd use the PS4 controller on my PS4 if it didn't need to be wired.
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So test it out first. I don't think you can really blame Sony for people buying games on their PS4 whilst using a PS4 controller. Although I'm sure you'll find a way.

You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel of trying to make Sony look bad with this one. Try again. Try harder. Like how the PS4 is going up $50 in Canada! Since I'm sure you'll just post that part and fail to mention that games (including XBO games) have gone/are going up as well when compared to US prices.
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Isn't the DS4 bluetooth? I didn't think the spec allowed for it to connect to 2 devices at once. Really odd.
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Animalor wrote:Isn't the DS4 bluetooth? I didn't think the spec allowed for it to connect to 2 devices at once. Really odd.
The PS4 controller has to be connected by usb to use it on the PS3 so bluetoooth is still only controlling one device (the PS4)...and purchasing games on the PS4 apparently while you play on the PS3.
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To followup up on a previous topic you can add the option to ask for your password at checkout. Not sure why anyone would expect that to be the default though.

Moving on...
Upcoming PS4 Update to Add SHARE Enhancements and HDCP Off

Here at PlayStation, we listen closely to your comments and requests, which are weighted heavily when looking at the future of our platforms. Since PlayStation 4 launched, we’ve heard a lot of great feedback from you about what you like with the platform and what you’d like to see us work on. I’m happy to report that, as a direct result of your feedback, we’ll soon be bringing some of your most-requested features to PS4 with a system software update in the upcoming weeks. These features and additions will help make your PS4 even more socially connected by further enabling you to customize your most epic gaming moments and granting even more options to show them to your friends.

This upcoming update will add a rich video editor with a simple tool to personalize your video clips, and you’ll also be able to export to and save the videos and screenshots you create by pressing the SHARE button to a USB drive. In addition, this update will add an HDCP off option for capturing gameplay via HDMI, a feature we’ve previously said would come after launch. We recognize that some gamers want to record and share longer clips of their gameplay sessions, and we’re excited to deliver this option with PS4. There’s a lot more coming in this update as well, so stay tuned for more—there will be plenty in the update to excite everyone.

As part of a separate system software update in the future, we have been working with our partners at Twitch and Ustream, and will also be adding the ability for Twitch broadcasts to be archived – another highly requested feature among PS4 fans who are taking advantage of the SHARE button features. These broadcasts will be also provided with a higher resolution of 720p, so PS4 fans can enjoy live broadcasts with clearer images. We’ll have more to come on these updates and more in the coming weeks.
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PS4 Camera "severely supply constrained"

Sony's Chris Norden says company underestimated demand for the peripheral, which has sold around 900,000 units to date.

Norden, a senior staff developer support engineer at Sony, said the company underestimated demand for the peripheral. He also revealed that the camera has an attach rate of around 15 percent--that's about 900,000 units. The PS4 has sold 6 million units.

The PlayStation Camera is proving hard to find, as it's sold out as numerous retailers. Norden said "please be patient," as Sony works to replenish supply, though it's not clear when more units will be available.
Funny what happen when you give people the option to purchase something instead of forcing it on them. Those who want it can go out and purchase it (if they can find it!)... Those who don't save money by not purchasing it. Win-win!
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PlayStation 4 users will eventually be able to turn off the light bar found on the DualShock 4 controller, Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida has confirmed.

Geoff Keighley caught up with Yoshida at Gamescom this week and was told that a future update will make this possible.

Keighley said:
Just interviewed @yosp and he said that upcoming PS4 firmware will let you turn off light bar on controller!

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) March 20, 2014
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HAhahaha no wait. What am I saying... That's just crazy talk.
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Nice! When is the update that will allow you to swap the D-Pad and the Left joystick?
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Yoshida replied to Keighley and corrected that he said the firmware would allow dimming of the LED, won't allow users to turn it off completely.

https://twitter.com/yosp/status/446736812745031680
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/cue the Winnow complaining about Sony taking away features
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Sony: PS4 Demand Will Outstrip Supply Into the Summer

When Sony’s PlayStation 4 launched in November, it sold out on its first day. It may be the summer before the consoles are fully stocked on shelves.

In an interview at the Game Developer’s Conference in San Francisco, Andrew House, head of Sony’s PlayStation division, said the company is seeing robust sales in all the regions the PS4 is being sold.

“We’re struggling to keep up with demand,” which has been highest in the U.S. and Europe, House said. “Conservatively, as we get into the early summer months, we’ll be closer to a full supply situation.”
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Layoffs across PlayStation UK studios

A new wave of redundancies has reduced Sony's games developer workforce in the UK, with layoffs confirmed at three studios.

The corporation has commenced a restructuring operation at DriveClub developer Evolution Studios, as well as Sony London Studio and Killzone: Mercenary developer Guerrilla Cambridge.

Sony announced in October that Evolution Studios' DriveClub project, which was originally planned to ship along with the PS4 in November, was delayed until further notice.

Then in March, a Sony representative claimed that the studio "went back to the drawing board" with the project, suggesting the delay was enacted to make fundamental changes.

Despite the success of the PlayStation 4 - with more than six million units sold, more than 14 million games sold and at least half its customer base subscribing to PS Plus - parent company Sony has spent the past several years trying to regain profitability by shrinking its cost base.

As part of that plan, the Tokyo headquartered company recently announced it was planning to cut 5000 jobs.

Key developers and executives have departed amid layoffs at US studios such as Sony Santa Monica.

In August 2012, the PlayStation business closed its Sony Liverpool studio.
Hey, as long as takes with whatever skeleton crew they have left!
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Report: Driveclub director Col Rodgers departs Evolution Studios

In addition to the layoffs at Driveclub developer Evolution Studios, which we reported earlier today, we now have word that game director Col Rodgers has also taken his leave.

According to Videogamer, Rodgers' exodus is unrelated to the aforementioned layoffs. It's unclear why he has decided to leave Evolution Studios with the development of Driveclub reportedly in the final stages, though Videogamer notes that Rodgers founded indie studio Big Red Switch Games in February, where he claims to be working on "some cool game concepts."

As to the status of Driveclub, that's now even more a mystery than it already was. Originally, the racing simulation was slated to launch alongside the PlayStation 4 last November. After that, publisher Sony pushed the intended release back to a nebulous "early 2014."

Since that time there's been scant new information on the racer, though recently Scott Rohde, head of development at Sony Worldwide Studios America, stated Driveclub had been moved "back to the drawing board" to ensure it lives up to fan expectations.
But everything's OK right? Maybe it just needs a little more of that "back to the drawing board" stuff. This was supposed to be a launch title.

More concerning is what seems like a daily occurrence of layoffs with Sony.
With all these layoffs and people leaving, it seems like something is going on over at Sony...It pains me to think about the studios we'll lose in this upcoming generation, but you know it's going to happen. Kind of have to wonder if Sony will maintain it's "powerhouse" first-party developer portfolio, or if they're going to start going the safe route. They know people like Naughty Dog, and ND games, so it's safe to assume that they'll be here for a good while...but Media Molecule? SCE Japan? Guerrilla? You can debate the quality of exclusives these guys put out all you want, but you can't really debate sales numbers, and most people who own PS systems don't even bother with stuff like LittleBigPlanet, The Puppeteer, or Killzone.
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Report: Driveclub director Col Rodgers departs Evolution Studios

<blahblah stupid stuff deleted>
But everything's OK right? Maybe it just needs a little more of that "back to the drawing board" stuff. This was supposed to be a launch title.
I hope you've been seeking help for your mental defects. So far I have not see any improvement.

Anyway, let's see what the man himself has to say:
Col Rodgers wrote:Hello, all.

This is my first post on NeoGAF, and whilst I'm not generally one to deal in internet speculation, I have to put the record straight with regard to Pete Dodd's comments above.

Everything he has said with regard to myself and Driveclub is incorrect. It's also libellous.

As Putty (who is a personal friend of mine, and has been for about 25 years) suggests, I left Evo in February for personal reasons. The personal reasons being that my son, who is 4 years old, has been diagnosed with Nephrotic Syndrome, which is a potentially life threatening condition. I live 220 miles (4 hours drive) away from Evolution Studios, and was away from home 5.5 days a week. Given the circumstances, I could not continue to work there.

Driveclub is a great game, and the direction hasn't changed since my departure. This has been confirmed by SONY in various press releases over recent days.

I have no problem in dealing with very large projects, as I've been working in the games industry for the last 19 years, and have worked on some very prestigious titles, so there is genuinely no truth to anything posted by Mr Dodds at all. My departure (and indeed the setup of my 'indie' operation, BigRedSwitch) is 100% driven by family necessity, not some professional failing on my part.

I left SONY on very good terms. There is no animosity there, and I was absolutely nothing to do with the recent redundancies - in fact, the news of those redundancies was probably linked on here before I knew about them.

The games industry is a tough place at the moment. My circumstances with my son mean that I've had to leave secure work in order to try to make my own way in the world. This may entail getting another job. With people who obviously know nothing about the situation blackening my reputation for the sake of internet 'fame', this could be made much more difficult. It's nothing less than trolling.

I've contacted Mr. Dodd on his email address on his site. Due to the factual inaccuracy of his statements, I've informed him that he needs to remove the statements and apologise for the damage they have caused, as posting incorrect information and claiming it's true is quite simply libel.

I'm sure you can all appreciate just how difficult things are for myself and my family at the moment. I'd genuinely appreciate it if you can take my statements as word from the origin, and realise that there has been no big cover-up when it comes to my departure from SONY/Evo.

Thanks, all.

Col.
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PS4 Has 1,000 Indie Devs Signed On To Make Games, Xbox One Only Has 250
Clearly an indication that the PS4 is (at least!) 4 times better than the XBO.

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900 of those will be fart apps!
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PS4 reaches 7 million worldwide as Infamous : Second Son sells a million at launch

Courtesy of a monstrous shipment of PS4 units in the extended last 2 weeks amidst very high consumer demand, PS4 reached 7 million units globally for the extended Infamous Week ending March 28, 2014. For the extended week, PS4 outsold the Xbox One by a whopping 7:1 across the PAL region. Below are the numbers for the extended week ranging from March 17,2014 to March 28,2014. Infamous : Second Son reached a million at the same time.

PAL(includes UK)

PS4 : 180,000 units (PS4 sold over 100,000 units across PAL during the weekend covering March 21 - March 23 )
Xbox One : 25,000 units
Infamous : Second Son sold 400,000 copies at retail across PAL and around ~50,000 across Asia , with around 90,000 units sold across UK (includes bundles)

North America

We do not have the final hardware numbers for PS4 but we can confirm based on the near final number across most retailers, that PS4 sold well over 100,000 units across North America for the extended Infamous Week ending March 28,2014.

Infamous : Second Son sold over 450,000 copies at retail

* PS4 sold over 100,000 units across the PAL region for each of the weeks ending March 16 and March 23 respectively.
** Around 150,000 copies of Infamous : Second Son were sold digitally. Split across different regions is unknown.
*** Over 500,000 PS4 hardware units were sold globally between March 17 - March 28, courtesy of a steady stream of supply from SONY.
****PS4 now has a solid 3 million lead over Xbox One globally
7 million!

Over half a million in 11 days is a lot!
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-pc ... 0-6418718/

PS4 game delayed again. I sense a trend!


http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/02/ ... m-and-more

PS4 stealing Xbox Lives reputation system. Copycats!
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