The Wine Appreciation Thread

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 21, 2003, 3:57 am

If out at a restaurant I'd have to go with a nice Merlot.

When I buy wine for me and misses on a night I plan on getting laid, then a big ass bottle of a fruity Arbor Mist. She loves that shit.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » January 21, 2003, 4:09 am

how much wine does it take to get your wife to fuck you? can the human stomach hold that much or do you have to spike it with ecstasy and wood grain alcohol?

noel · Post by **noel** » January 21, 2003, 4:53 am

kyoukan type-R wrote:how much wine does it take to get your wife to fuck you? can the human stomach hold that much or do you have to spike it with ecstasy and wood grain alcohol?

I can't stop laughing!

BEST. FLAME. EVAR!

Deward · Post by **Deward** » January 21, 2003, 10:53 am

If you are looking for a great every day drinking wine then try Concha Y Torro (or spelled something like that) from Chile. It is a Cabernet-Merlot blend that only costs about $10 a liter. One of my neighbors introduced it to me and it is better than a lot of more expensive wines that I have tried before.

Nowadays I usually make my own wine. I have a nice dry red made from WI concords aging right now. The samples I had of it so far make it out to be a really dry year for WI wine.

Deward

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » February 2, 2003, 1:23 pm

this thread is too important to let slip!

i had a nice French Red last weekend at a restaurant. It was $35 there, so probaly $18-25 in a store.

Forgive me if i have meespelle anaytheeng:

Chateua le Perquie, Coteaux de Ventoux, 1999

yummmmmmmmmmm

Trek · Post by **Trek** » February 2, 2003, 2:28 pm

Whats the word?! THUNDERBIRD!

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » February 2, 2003, 2:32 pm

French reds are a good wine to have with a steak. I myself am finding that Australian reds are also an excellent choice for steaks as well.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » February 2, 2003, 3:24 pm

cidvicious wrote:Bigno,

I want to get a bottle of wine from 95, 98 and 2002. Which can be stored for 21 years from the year it was made.

Whats your suggestions?

I am a wine buyer, so I will toss in my 2 cents.

95- Great year for California, think Cab, think reserve, to avoid a million dollars for it, try Clos du Val, ZD, Carmenet, or a Robert Sinskey reserve Blend

98- Avoid California as if it had Bubonic Plague, think Northern Italian, an Amerone would be perfect.

2002- too early to tell, California should be good quality, France very good, but futures are futres, gonna have to wait and see on that.

Icewulf · Post by **Icewulf** » February 2, 2003, 4:03 pm

I also am a sommelier and I will give you the inside track on the cheap stuff that kicks arse:

Sparkling: Save your cash, unless you drink Dom or Cristal a lot, you probably won't be able to tell the difference from a Prosecco (sparkling from Italy) or a Cava (Spain's sparkler)..both run from about $8 to $14.

White: 2001 German wines are off the chart! One of the best vintages since 1983 and prices range from $9! Like Chardonnay? Forget California...go to the home of Chardonnay... Burgundy, France...where a simple village like Rully will knock your socks off!

Light red: Pinot Pinot Pinot...the true wine fanatics favorite wine! Once again, I suggest going to the home of Pinot...Burgundy, France. For domestic, give Oregon a shot, they have had a string of good years and wine making has improved dramatically there. For those of you just getting into reds...slightly chill a Beaujolais $8-$15.

Medium red: Rosso di Montalcino (Italy) extremely versatile and very affordable.

Full Red: One word: Australia! Look for these gems: Paringa (Cab, Merlot, or Shiraz) $11...Marquis Phillips "Roogle" (Cab, Merlot, Shiraz) $14... Hazyblur (Shiraz) great name, great label and great wine! $20

After dinner treats: Moscato d'Asti (Italy) is a slightly sparkling dessert wine that you will love! Also try a tawny port for late night sippin'...great thing about it is that you don't have to drink the whole bottle at one sitting, it will keep for a few weeks after its opened.

Last but not least, a word of advice:

I always hear people say "I don't like red/white wine." It drives me crazy. The correct response, I think, should be " I have not tried a red/white wine that I have liked yet." There are over a thousand types of grapes in the world, there has got to be one out there that suits you, keep trying them all until you find it!

Enjoy and respond,
Icewulf Steelfury
56th Barbarian Warrior
Proud Member of Keepers of the Elements

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » February 2, 2003, 7:53 pm

Jackass!

Thanks for the great info bro

Millie · Post by **Millie** » February 2, 2003, 10:26 pm

Australia is indeed producing some great wines -- and most for fairly cheap. Rosemount Estates Balmorral Shiraz ('99) is an amazing red. It's not easy to find these days, but bottles retail for about $15.

If you're in the market for a cheap, great sparkling wine, try Roederer Estate Anderson Valley Brut. Vintage doesn't matter; it's all good stuff. Roederer produces some amazingly good sparkling wines, for about $19 a pop. And trust me -- you won't be able to tell the difference between a $19 bottle of this stuff and a $200 bottle of Dom. It's that good.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » February 3, 2003, 3:12 am

If you're in the market for a cheap, great sparkling wine, try Roederer Estate Napa Valley Brut. Vintage doesn't matter; it's all good stuff. Roederer produces some amazingly good sparkling wines, for about $19 a pop. And trust me -- you won't be able to tell the difference between a $19 bottle of this stuff and a $200 bottle of Dom. It's that good.[/quote]

Roederer is not napa, it's anderson valley, that's where I live

Bigno · Post by **Bigno** » February 3, 2003, 11:22 am

Dug this up to help people who may have questions about vintage quality. Please keep in mind that this chart is generalized,it will give you an idea of which vintages are better than others in various wine regions. It is not gospel! A terrible winemaker can still make a crappy wine even with the best grape harvest, the converse is also true(although less likely) that a great winemaker can a solid wine out of a lousy harvest. One thing to keep in mind is that most wine is made to be consumed within 2-4 years of bottleing, so this chart reflects ALL wines best, within those guildlines. For ageworthy wines, this chart is best used to give a general idea about which years are best in which regions. For specific wines, asking your local wine merchant about quality is still the best stragety.

http://www.winetech.com/html/vintchrt.html

Sirensa · Post by **Sirensa** » February 3, 2003, 2:17 pm

Icewulf wrote:Light red: Pinot Pinot Pinot...the true wine fanatics favorite wine! Once again, I suggest going to the home of Pinot...Burgundy, France. For domestic, give Oregon a shot, they have had a string of good years and wine making has improved dramatically there.

Amen! Love Pinot. Usually try to buy Oregon - nice to support local

Hammerstalker PE · Post by **Hammerstalker PE** » February 3, 2003, 3:50 pm

There is a Hungarian Red that I absolutely love although the name is ridiculous. Bull's Blood. Very difficult to find this red anywhere. So when I can't find this I like a nice Californian Merlot or a Pino noir.

Millie · Post by **Millie** » February 3, 2003, 3:51 pm

Pherr the Dorf wrote:Roederer is not napa, it's anderson valley, that's where I live

Shit, you're right. Correction noted.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 20, 2003, 10:58 pm

Bump. Because wine > beer!

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » February 20, 2003, 11:07 pm

You didn't have to rub it in like that Aslanna.

Quarkk · Post by **Quarkk** » February 20, 2003, 11:12 pm

Millie wrote:To start, I'll throw out an excellent pair:

White:

Murphy-Goode Chardonnay (Sonoma, CA) - 1999

Omg Mirrie, that's where I live!

Millie · Post by **Millie** » February 20, 2003, 11:17 pm

Many good wines come out of Sonoma. It's probably a fun area to live.

The Santa Ynez valley is also a promising up-and-comer. While Napa producers rest on their laurels, the smaller California regions are stepping up to the plate like never before.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » February 20, 2003, 11:40 pm

damn you all are strange, not one other person has brought up rioja

Quarkk · Post by **Quarkk** » February 21, 2003, 12:33 am

It's a small town (only about 10,000 total around here) but the valley is beautiful.

We're only about 10 minutes away from Napa, too. Most people don't realize how close all the "wine country" towns are around here.

It's Sonoma County, after all.

Drolgin Steingrinder · February 21, 2003, 12:49 am

Riojas can be very good - when they are good ('94, '95 are outstanding years), but it's a huge region, and the bulk wine can be less than satisfactory.

Also, the good Riojas are starting to be priced ridiculously high - you're better off buying '95-'96 or '99 Ribera del Duero or '98 Valdepeñas.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » February 21, 2003, 5:22 pm

Anything by Cline. Literally. I've never had a bottle of wine made by them that wasn't excellent.

Lytton Springs wines as well.. yum.

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » February 21, 2003, 5:25 pm

I rike Maddog and Boones Farm personarly...1994 is my fav

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