Batshit Insane 2012

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 10, 2012, 5:29 pm

The sad thing is what religion someone follows shouldn't have any bearing on their ability to govern. To bad that isn't recognized by crazy Republicans and to all of them it's one combined category instead of the two separate ones it should be.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » April 11, 2012, 12:11 pm

How is a man supposed to lead unless he's being guided by the invisible voice of the magical sky king?

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » April 13, 2012, 10:53 am

Aslanna wrote:The sad thing is what religion someone follows shouldn't have any bearing on their ability to govern. To bad that isn't recognized by crazy Republicans and to all of them it's one combined category instead of the two separate ones it should be.

They've been very well indoctrinated into an either\or view and the mistaken belief that the republicans give a fetid dingos' kidney about their beliefs and cause(s) and that the democrats are opposed to those causes.

There's a huge segment of single issue voters on the far right too, the hard core pro-life crowd is a great example. They won't vote for anyone who doesn't agree with them on the one issue, period.

The RNC knows it and courts them and others like them; to the exclusion of the whole middle who might vote one way or the other based on "everything else".

It's remarkably similar to the DNCs long time fascination with hollyweird, they were mislead that it was working when Clinton was elected and strayed far down that path. They finally woke up and realized they couldn't win by just courting vocal, voting loonies from the margin.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » April 16, 2012, 11:20 am

Thats not entirely true, though. Remember that when Clinton took the White House, that was the beginning of the mainstreaming of the right wing hate machine. Rush was actually on a nightly nationally syndicated television show bashing him and the entire GOP media empire pretty much demonized him 24/7, with Fox News making its debut during that era. This was essentially the beginning of the Nixon plan to control the media comming to fruition (really Rove's idea dating back to the Nixon era) to prevent a Watergate style public backlash from ever happening again. The GOP powers that be were extremely pissed that George HW Bush lost to Bill Clinton, as they thought they basically owned the white house and there was no way a sitting president would be defeated in a time of war. When that didn't happen, they looked at Clinton like some sort of evil urserper and they have not gotten done being pissed about it since. Clinton won because he was one of the last true centrists, which is what started the GOP down this hard tack to the right they have been on since the 90s and Obama getting elected has just reinforced it.

Avestan · Post by **Avestan** » April 24, 2012, 2:33 pm

Jice Virago wrote:Not to mention to rational people watching one religious kook say "This guy's imaginary friend is not real, but mine is!" is full of all sorts of delicious irony. I guess if there is one thing that mobilizes the base more than racial intollerance its religious intolerance....

Speaking from the perspective of a religious kook who spends time with some other religous kooks - the conversation you just described never happens, but I find that some non-religous kooks spend a lot of time bashing others' belief systems to make themselves feel better about their own.

The model we try to follow is to get out and help others who need it with no preconditions or semons / lectures. You are successful if someone asks "why are you doing this?" because you get to give the answer.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » April 24, 2012, 3:00 pm

You are so chosen.

It's a pity that most of your kind are bigots, and consider the act of going to church as all the "good" they ought to participate in.

You may notice that atheists are the most generous people despite being the most hated, and by a wide margin! Funny how religious types will choose to hate the people they ought to save!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » April 24, 2012, 3:46 pm

so, you're saying they are bigots just like you?

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » April 24, 2012, 5:12 pm

so burn

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » April 25, 2012, 6:19 pm

Avestan wrote:
Jice Virago wrote:Not to mention to rational people watching one religious kook say "This guy's imaginary friend is not real, but mine is!" is full of all sorts of delicious irony. I guess if there is one thing that mobilizes the base more than racial intollerance its religious intolerance....
Speaking from the perspective of a religious kook who spends time with some other religous kooks - the conversation you just described never happens, but I find that some non-religous kooks spend a lot of time bashing others' belief systems to make themselves feel better about their own.

The model we try to follow is to get out and help others who need it with no preconditions or semons / lectures. You are successful if someone asks "why are you doing this?" because you get to give the answer.

First off, atheists do not have a belief system. We have something called provable facts and the scientific method. And if you feel that none of this goes on then you must be one of those selective Christians who skipped over the large sections of the Old Testiment that discuss, at length, how your faith feels about (and deals with) false gods and prophets to get to the part of Leviticus that lets you justify your homophobia. I accept that you are selective in your adherance to your faith, because rationalizing the irrational is what religion is all about.

Second, if you are giving out help so that you can solicit an opening that lets you pimp your faith, then you are doing things with preconditions and sermons intended behind it. When I do something good, I do it because I know it is the right thing to do and do not require an invisible boogie man threatening me with eternal punishment to guilt me into doing the right thing. By your own admission, you are doing it to give you a foot in the door to push your faith system, like a door to door vacuum cleaner salesmen.

Third, you are deluding yourself if you think Romney being a devout Mormon is not going to hurt him drastically in the general election. If it did not matter, then Fox would not be trying to call Obama a Muslim all the time. Romney is already taking it in the ass with women, blacks, and gays over his embracement of the current religious social agenda going on at the state level, but the Mormon faith has a pretty solid track record of racism, homophobia, and mysogeny to pile on to that. He got roasted by key members of his own party for being a "member of a cult" during the primary. If he was not so filthy rich and so many other rich fuckers were pouring money into his campaign (or the current president was not black) we would be seeing another Barry Goldwater or Mike Dukakis style blowout here. Right now, the only votes he can count on are the angry white man vote that Fox is whipping up to a fever pitch, and a lot of that is going to fall away when his own moderate record (hi2u healthcare) gets used against him in the general. Hell, the Tea Baggers are already up in arms over him getting nominated, especially since it looks a lot like Ron Paul has a lot more delegates than the GOP establishment initially admitted to.

Sadly, we should not care that Mitt is a member of a religious cult but its overshadowed the fact that he is an out of touch tax evading rich entitled asshole. If he thinks the primary run was rough against the incompetant boobs he was pitted against, wait until he has to go toe to toe with someone who actually has a brain.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » May 29, 2012, 2:20 pm

Ads running around here right now are painting Romney as a rich corporate asshole; one of the group that gleefully shafted our economy in their own short term interest. Pretty much spot on, I think they're being too general for it to be really effective though. They need to focus on details.

Besides accusing Obama of being anti-capitalist the response ads are pointing out specific Obama items: "you might lose your healthcare due to Obamacare!", "Your 'taxes' have gone up when he said they'd go down!". Neither strictly true, but resonate with people who aren't willing to think too much.

*Edit - no change really from previous, and not to say I think Obama has been perfect. The republicans are just embarrassing.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 11, 2012, 1:11 pm

Mitt Romney selects this guy to be his running mate:

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 11, 2012, 9:47 pm

Better than this guy

Is that one of the magnet "miracle" bracelets he's wearing. Is he that stupid? The company that sold those was sued out of existence.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 11, 2012, 9:54 pm

That first photo is a fake.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 11, 2012, 10:21 pm

Spang wrote:That first photo is a fake.

Your photo is faked.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 11, 2012, 10:26 pm

Winnow wrote:
Spang wrote:That first photo is a fake.
Your photo is faked.

The shirt button, Obama's mole, and the lack of smoke all beg to differ, you dumb motherfucker.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 11, 2012, 10:37 pm

I don't believe that for a second. They use the double negative flip reversal technique. How do you explain the glazed stupid look on his face? I need further proof.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » August 12, 2012, 8:45 pm

Spang wrote:Mitt Romney selects this guy to be his running mate:

As a Shriner myself, I'm sincerely hoping that's not his fez.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » August 13, 2012, 3:28 pm

Dad put it quite well: "Choosing him will do a good job of chasing anyone in the middle and seniors to the democrats".

Different direction than I thought they'd choose but I still don't think they're playing to win.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 13, 2012, 4:14 pm

Paul Ryan won't attract anyone who isn't already voting for Romney (or against Obama). Sasha and Malia will likely spend another 4 years at Sidwell Friends.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 14, 2012, 12:17 am

Romney is so worried about being treated as a moderate that he panicked and picked the last person in the GOP he should have. Even "Moon Base" Gingrich is a better choice. At least he's just a douchebag that drops Reagan's name every second sentence and not out to just completely fuck anyone that isn't rich. Ryan has declared open war on the poor and has all but written an op-ed stating that he is in politics simply to make himself wealthier.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » August 14, 2012, 11:12 am

They're just sticking it in our faces now. Same as Palin. The grand distraction.

Notice how the wars never stop.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 14, 2012, 7:20 pm

Gotta agree with Kyuo here. No fucking clue what they were thinking. Obviously Rubio had some financial baggage, but he would have otherwise been their optimum choice. Ryan dumped other bank stock and bought Goldman Sachs stock right after the meeting where his committee got to decide who got TARP funds, so thats not exactly going to look much better than Rubio's situation, either. This reeks of a campaign in desperation trying to shore up its base so they don't get completely fucking blown out, Dukakis/Goldwater style. Ryan only releasing two years of taxes is also a masterstroke of stupidity that is going to kill whatever respite Romney might have had on that front. Neither one of these two entitled fucks can dare let anyone know how much they proffited off other's misfortune during the crash, so the tax thing is going to follow them right into the poll booths. No wonder they are being so blatant about the voter suppression this time around. They literally have no other way to win. Chalk one up for Man Coulter for being Nostrodomus and callin this one over a year ago.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » August 15, 2012, 5:35 pm

If you still think Obamacare came from the dems just look at Ryan's plan to defund Medicare/Medicaid. Shows you whose hand is in his pants. He babbles about free market forces regulating prices. I wonder if it's pure sophistry, in which case he's a corrupt sleazebag; or he truly believes it - meaning he's an idiot. (I don't think he's an idiot)

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 17, 2012, 12:24 pm

Tom Morello: 'Paul Ryan Is the Embodiment of the Machine Our Music Rages Against'

Rage Against the Machine's guitarist blasts Romney's VP pick and unlikely Rage fan

Last week, Mitt Romney picked Paul Ryan, the Republican architect of Congress's radical right-wing budget plan, as his running mate. Ryan has previously cited Rage Against the Machine as one of his favorite bands. Rage guitarist Tom Morello responds in this exclusive op-ed.

Paul Ryan's love of Rage Against the Machine is amusing, because he is the embodiment of the machine that our music has been raging against for two decades. Charles Manson loved the Beatles but didn't understand them. Governor Chris Christie loves Bruce Springsteen but doesn't understand him. And Paul Ryan is clueless about his favorite band, Rage Against the Machine.

Ryan claims that he likes Rage's sound, but not the lyrics. Well, I don't care for Paul Ryan's sound or his lyrics. He can like whatever bands he wants, but his guiding vision of shifting revenue more radically to the one percent is antithetical to the message of Rage.

I wonder what Ryan's favorite Rage song is? Is it the one where we condemn the genocide of Native Americans? The one lambasting American imperialism? Our cover of "Fuck the Police"? Or is it the one where we call on the people to seize the means of production? So many excellent choices to jam out to at Young Republican meetings!

Don't mistake me, I clearly see that Ryan has a whole lotta "rage" in him: A rage against women, a rage against immigrants, a rage against workers, a rage against gays, a rage against the poor, a rage against the environment. Basically the only thing he's not raging against is the privileged elite he's groveling in front of for campaign contributions.

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Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » August 17, 2012, 2:45 pm

While that post is interesting, I am about to "unlike" tom morello and street sweeper social club. Some of the shit they say on facebook is so ridiculous that it makes you look reasonable, spang. The last straw for me was their post about how the new batman movie is a jab at the 99%.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 17, 2012, 2:50 pm

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » August 20, 2012, 12:49 am

The Party of Crazy marches on

Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri who is running against Sen. Claire McCaskill, justified his opposition to abortion rights even in case of rape with a claim that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses that prevent pregnancy.

“First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV in an interview posted Sunday. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Akin said that even in the worst-case scenario — when the supposed natural protections against unwanted pregnancy fail — abortion should still not be a legal option for the rape victim.

“Let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work, or something,” Akin said. “I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

A 1996 study by the American Journal of Obstetricians and Gynecologists found “rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency” and is “a cause of many unwanted pregnancies” — an estimated “32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year.”

In a tweet, McCaskill said she was “stunned” by Akin’s comments.

After the interview caused a firestorm, Akin said in a statement that he “misspoke.”

Akin is perhaps the boldest among a crop of conservative 2012 nominees who could hamper GOP efforts to take back the Senate in the fall. Akin has called for an end to the school-lunch program and a total ban on the morning-after pill.

His claim about “legitimate” types of rape is not completely foreign to the current Republican Congress, however. In 2011, the House GOP was forced to drop language from a bill that would have limited federal help to pay for an abortion to only victims of “forcible rape.” Akin was a co-sponsor on the bill.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » August 21, 2012, 2:20 pm

Dawned on me where trickle down II is coming from, it's "Job Creationism". The flying spaghetti monster told them to do it. Ra-men.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 21, 2012, 6:09 pm

"My understanding is that it is virtually — not completely, but virtually — impossible to contract AIDS through heterosexual sex.” - GOP lawmaker from the hate state of Tennessee

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 21, 2012, 7:10 pm

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." - Barack Obama

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 21, 2012, 7:17 pm

Winnow wrote:"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." - Barack Obama

Obama never said that.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 21, 2012, 7:36 pm

"Fo Shizzle"
-Barack Obama

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » August 21, 2012, 8:20 pm

Spang wrote:
Winnow wrote:"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." - Barack Obama
Obama never said that.

Even if he did.. Doesn't make it crazy. Other than the fact that he thought Republicans would join in trying to change it. That is pretty fuckin insane,

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 22, 2012, 12:55 am

wow look everyone. winnow opened his cum hole and got slapped in it again, and then made a stupid, unfunny joke in a hopeless attempt to rescue his dignity.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 22, 2012, 8:48 am

"I am a cum hole"
-kyoukan

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 22, 2012, 10:29 am

Let me lighten the mood with some comedy gold:

what we know about modern physics just got tossed out the window, and in 50 nanoseconds the universe just got exponentially smaller.

-kyoukan

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » August 22, 2012, 10:45 am

- Abraham Lincoln

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 22, 2012, 11:52 am

The real reason the GOP is after Akin is not because what he said was outrageous, but that he is publicly stating the actual party platform for all to see and he has very tangible connections to Ryan. All I can think of when I see the guy in interviews is the american villian from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. How anyone but the most undeducated hillbilly fucktard can think these guys actually want to govern responsibly when they have done nothing but wage full scale war on fags and vaginas for the last four years is beyond me.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » August 22, 2012, 12:16 pm

Because the only news they get comes from FOX. Or from someone who watches FOX news. Or from Hank Williams Jr. Dontcha know we have a muslim president who hates farmers?!

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » August 22, 2012, 1:19 pm

They've routinely put qualifiers on the term rape for a long time.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » August 23, 2012, 12:20 pm

The GOP seems to be angling directly towards "pay 5 shekels and marry her" punishment for rape. But fucking life in prison without chance for parole for selling some weed!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 23, 2012, 6:50 pm

According to the folks at Fox Nation, Michael Jordan is best known for being a failed baseball player, and other scary black person Carmelo Anthony is best known for being an anti-police activist.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » August 23, 2012, 7:14 pm

That's Faux News for ya!

Meanwhile, in reality:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bain-docu ... d=17067015

The newly released documents rekindle questions about one of the more technical tax questions that has emerged about Romney's investments – the use of so-called "blocker" entities. The blocker is a paper company that serves as a buffer between the investor and the fund holding the investments, Wilkins explained. That means the investment income can be counted as a dividend and in some cases avoid income tax.

In the financials for the Bain Capital Asia Fund, for instance, the audit describes the establishment of blocker corporations to hold more than $92 million in contributions from the fund.

Some experts have pointed to the blockers to help explain how Romney has been able to amass between $20.7 million and $101.6 million in a tax-free IRA, many times more than the typical amount an IRA can hold. Romney has not responded to questions about his IRA.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 24, 2012, 1:36 am

why do you liberals want to punish success?

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » August 24, 2012, 11:06 am

kyoukan wrote:why do you liberals want to punish success?

Your female opinion is obviously blinded due to your attraction to Romney.

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/313504/boss

What do women want? The conventional biological wisdom is that men select mates for fertility, while women select for status — thus the commonness of younger women’s pairing with well-established older men but the rarity of the converse. The Demi Moore–Ashton Kutcher model is an exception — the only 40-year-old woman Jack Nicholson has ever seen naked is Kathy Bates in that horrific hot-tub scene. Age is cruel to women, and subordination is cruel to men. Ellen Kullman is a very pretty woman, but at 56 years of age she probably would not turn a lot of heads in a college bar, and the fact that she is the chairman and CEO of Dupont isn’t going to change that.

It’s a good thing Mitt Romney doesn’t hang out in college bars.

You want off-the-charts status? Check out the curriculum vitae of one Willard M. Romney: $200 million in the bank (and a hell of a lot more if he didn’t give so much away), apex alpha executive, CEO, chairman of the board, governor, bishop, boss of everything he’s ever touched. Son of the same, father of more. It is a curious scientific fact (explained in evolutionary biology by the Trivers-Willard hypothesis — Willard, notice) that high-status animals tend to have more male offspring than female offspring, which holds true across many species, from red deer to mink to Homo sap. The offspring of rich families are statistically biased in favor of sons — the children of the general population are 51 percent male and 49 percent female, but the children of the Forbes billionaire list are 60 percent male. Have a gander at that Romney family picture: five sons, zero daughters. Romney has 18 grandchildren, and they exceed a 2:1 ratio of grandsons to granddaughters (13:5). When they go to church at their summer-vacation home, the Romney clan makes up a third of the congregation. He is basically a tribal chieftain.

Professor Obama? Two daughters. May as well give the guy a cardigan. And fallopian tubes.

From an evolutionary point of view, Mitt Romney should get 100 percent of the female vote. All of it. He should get Michelle Obama’s vote. You can insert your own Mormon polygamy joke here, but the ladies do tend to flock to successful executives and entrepreneurs. Saleh al-Rajhi, billionaire banker, left behind 61 children when he cashed out last year. We don’t do harems here, of course, but Romney is exactly the kind of guy who in another time and place would have the option of maintaining one. He’s a boss. Given that we are no longer roaming the veldt for the most part, money is a reasonable stand-in for social status. Romney’s net worth is more than that of the last eight U.S. presidents combined. He set up a trust for his grandkids and kicked in about seven times Barack Obama’s net worth, which at $11.8 million is not inconsiderable but probably less than Romney’s tax bill in a good year. If he hadn’t given away so much money to his church, charities, and grandkids, Mitt Romney would have more money than Jay-Z.

It is time for Mitt Romney to get in touch with his inner rich guy.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 24, 2012, 1:37 pm

That article summarizes the average conservative republican's knowledge of how women think in a nutshell.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » August 24, 2012, 4:36 pm

In a time where people criticize Obama (rightfully so) for not being as transparent as he implied he would be, it blows my mind that these same people have no problem with a candidate that not only refuses to let 'you people' see his financial history (in a time when his platform is one of being able to save the country because of his financial background) or even give concrete details of any of his plans. Rather they're quite fine with him and his Damien running mate saying they'll provide details only after they're elected.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 24, 2012, 5:23 pm

So long as Romney doesn't flip-flop on his race, none of that stuff matters.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » August 28, 2012, 10:50 am

Siji wrote:...when his platform is one of being able to save the country because of his financial background...

So the RNC is aiming for political homeopathy? More of what caused the problem will fix it?

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » August 28, 2012, 11:17 am

political homeopathy

Let's all join hands and pray away the debt. The economy needs us!