Human Shield...

[kyoukan]

Oh nos xyun smokes the drugs! oooh kyoukan is anti-american! at least you didn't regurgitate your whole google speech again; kudos to ya. could it be the first messageboard post you've ever made where you didn't bring it up? maybe?!

Speaking of PM's tho, if you have so much sand in your pussy about me, then how about using one instead of parroting yourself over and over again. Although I'm sure the retard brigade welcomes your place in the lineup of whiny self-important little morons trying to flame me.

good luck in your career though!

[kyoukan]

I ask you staunch anti war people, what do you want to do now? Iraq has been given so many chances to settle this peacefully it's laughable. The only option left in my mind is war. One more year of inspections will do nothing. I want to hear how you want to handle the situation in Iraq as it is right now.

Answer.

Iraq doesn't have the means to mount an attack on the united states. Leave them alone until they are actually (if ever) a threat. You don't waltz into a sovreign country and kill their government because they don't like you and have natural resources that you want. That is imperialism.

[Atokal]

hahaha play sheep. yeah poor americans playing sheep for the evil arabs. the US doesn't do anything to them ever, and those arabs just get so jealous of all your freedoms and liberties and totally attack you unprovoked! fucking camel jockies!

Yet another quality fucking post from the bleeding heart liberal who believes peace at any price is a good thing. To quote Chevy Chase on SNL Kyoukan you ignorant slut, if one thought ever gets past your blind bullshit rhetoric it should be this, INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED on Sept 11 in a deliberate attack on a military target? A weapons factory? A Chemical Factory? a simple case of mistaken targets?

NO you incredibly stunned, ignorant, posturing pile of steaming feces. Unlike some mistakes you no doubt will quote of "collateral damage" where a military target was selected based on grantedly bad intel and an "asparin" factory was bombed, these fuckers deliberately targetted two buildings in the USA during one of the busiest times of the work day to KILL as many innocent people as possible with no warning.

Xyun, Forthe and Kyoukan as I suggested earlier and as the title of this thread mentions there is a program in place at this very moment where you can participate, and show your love for this madman and his financial support of terrorist activity around the globe. Go, let your passion be your guide, we will all applaud your passing.

After 911 The USA stated they will hunt terrorists, their supporters, and financial institutions to the ground. What you are witnessing is righteous anger, and resolve to finish a job that for the first time in Fucking history someone has had the balls to undertake. So take your peace signs, your ty die shirts and free love to a commune near Bagdad, spread yer legs and take a cruise missile where the sun don't shine.

As to the innocents in Iraq, they undoubted will be warned that war is coming and have ample time to relocate. Unlike the innocents who died on Sept 11.

[quote
Iraq doesn't have the means to mount an attack on the united states. Leave them alone until they are actually (if ever) a threat. You don't waltz into a sovreign country and kill their government because they don't like you and have natural resources that you want. That is imperialism.

What a fucking gem this one is OMG you are so incredibly fucking stupid I feel like I just stepped off the short bus for even replying.

How are you going to know when they actually become a threat?
How do you know they are not a threat now?

Yep lets wait and see, and when more people are killed then the USA can step in. So in essence let them kill Americans and her allies through funding of terrorist activities first then we can retaliate. Good fucking plan.

[Forthe]

I ask you staunch anti war people, what do you want to do now? Iraq has been given so many chances to settle this peacefully it's laughable. The only option left in my mind is war. One more year of inspections will do nothing. I want to hear how you want to handle the situation in Iraq as it is right now.

Answer.

The same thing we were doing for 4 years without incident before dumbya began the crusades, SFA.

If the US adopts a foreign policy of pre-emptive attacks (or in this case a pre-emptive invasion) they had better expect other countries will do the same.

Edit: Atokal fuck off you mental midget.

[kyoukan]

oh righteous anger. ok since you put it that way then fine. righteous anger is cool; like in rambo 3 when the commies kidnap colonel trautman and rambo goes to get him back and kills all the commies.

you know you are right. as long as the US gives the population of Iraq a few days to move, its cool if we bomb the shit out of the country. I mean, they can just go to atokal-land, where candy grows on trees and people can make exact duplicates of their homes and live in that while some foreign country bombs the jesus out of their old one in the name of crude oil and righteous anger.

btw, you aren't quite intelligent or worthy enough to parrot my flames back at me, much less chevy chase's. just an FYI, you mongloid.

[Fallanthas]

Very well, you both just opposed not only the United States, the but entire United Nations security council.

Congratulations.

But hey, the rest of the world can't possibly be as smart as Forthe and Kyoukan, right?

[Atokal]

you mongaloid EL OH ELL.

Can I use that one please oh crafter of great flames.

[kyoukan]

[What a fucking gem this one is OMG you are so incredibly fucking stupid I feel like I just stepped off the short bus for even replying.

Well get the fuck back on it because you aren't at retard school yet.

How are you going to know when they actually become a threat?
How do you know they are not a threat now?

Because they haven't made one single hostile action towards the United States since the gulf war, nor has any evidence of any sort of weapons program been revealed. The very idea of Iraqi aggression towards a country they couldn't hope to go to war with in a million years is fucking laughable. Iraq couldn't even win a fucking war with Iran, and that was in their best years.

Yep lets wait and see, and when more people are killed then the USA can step in. So in essence let them kill Americans and her allies through funding of terrorist activities first then we can retaliate. Good fucking plan.

You've seen proof of Iraq funding terrorism? Funny because the united nations hasn't. Maybe you should show them your evidence? You will be a hero! Oh, you are talking out of your ass again. Okay then!

[kyoukan]

you mongaloid EL OH ELL.

Can I use that one please oh crafter of great flames.

you will anyway, you uncreative dipshit, so sure why not.

[kyoukan]

Very well, you both just opposed not only the United States, the but entire United Nations security council.

Congratulations.

But hey, the rest of the world can't possibly be as smart as Forthe and Kyoukan, right?

The same security council that half it's members have publically threatened to automatically veto any invasion of Iraq put on the table by the US? Is that the one I'm opposing? That one? Or is there a secret one? Which one?

[Fallanthas]

The very same, dumbass.


Try reading 1441. It says nothing about inspections to prove Iraq has WMD's. It says nothing about proving there is a reason to sanction Iraq. What it does say is that the onus is on Iraq to prove that they no longer have such weapons. It says that Iraq must comply, noting that they have never in the past done so.

So welcome to your own lil corner of the world. The fact that you seem to think anyone agrees with you not only demonstrates stupidity but an appaling lack of simple reading ability.

[Chidoro]

After 911 The USA stated they will hunt terrorists, their supporters, and financial institutions to the ground. What you are witnessing is righteous anger, and resolve to finish a job that for the first time in Fucking history someone has had the balls to undertake. So take your peace signs, your ty die shirts and free love to a commune near Bagdad, spread yer legs and take a cruise missile where the sun don't shine.

As to the innocents in Iraq, they undoubted will be warned that war is coming and have ample time to relocate. Unlike the innocents who died on Sept 11.

Do you actually live in a city that any terrorist gives two shits about? It's funny how tough people get sometimes, now you're actually the Tomahawk Missile Admiral I suppose? You firing that gun? You sending your buddies over there. You killing possible relatives of US citizens who just haven't had the funds to get on these shores to give themselves a little better?

Yeah, it's all about the balls, never about the implications. That's ok, it's not as if you're going to be effected more than seeing terrible things on tv.

[Atokal]

The same thing we were doing for 4 years without incident before dumbya began the crusades, SFA.

If the US adopts a foreign policy of pre-emptive attacks (or in this case a pre-emptive invasion) they had better expect other countries will do the same.

Edit: Atokal fuck off you mental midget.

You insufferable, mindless fucktard.

History lesson number 1.

1939 the world at war.
Britain and her allies appeal to the USA for help with another madman.
Public opinion is HOLY SHIT that is on the other side of the planet we don't need to get involved.

Dec 7/41 - Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor.

USA realizes their mistake that being isolationalist does NOT fucking work.

June/July 1990. - Iraq masses military on Kuwaits border under the guise of military games etc.
USA and the rest of the world suspect other motives but decide to wait.
Aug 1990 - Iraq invades Kuwait.

The USA and the rest of the world realize their mistake and mobilize to liberate Kuwait.

2003 - Saddam Hussein has now flouted the resolutions of the UN for many years without retribution, continues to conceivably build weapons of mass destruction.

USA Waits and history will be repeated, Get it dumbass? good now off to Iraq with you.

[Kalifen]

[quote="Atokal"]
Xyun, Forthe and Kyoukan as I suggested earlier and as the title of this thread mentions there is a program in place at this very moment where you can participate, and show your love for this madman and his financial support of terrorist activity around the globe. Go, let your passion be your guide, we will all applaud your passing.

Ok, taken out of its content but that madman its Bush or?

[Chidoro]

USA Waits and history will be repeated, Get it dumbass? good now off to Iraq with you.

What's he going to do, throw his sanction papers at us? You putz.

[Fallanthas]

Number one, there is a hell of a lot more at stake here than the United States. If you can't realize that, then go back and finish your goddamn fourth grade education. You have no place in this discussion.

Number two, he doesn't have to throw his sanction papers. Why use those when he could send you a nice packet of VX or seren gas instead?


There is a reason 1441 doesn't say anything about proving that Saddam has these things. It's been reiterated over and over again by everyone from the United States government to Hans -fucking - Blix. Iraq has WMDs. They were known to have them at the time of the initial inspections, and provided no proof that any of these weapons or programs had been discontinues or destroyed.

I swear, if it isn't painted under your nose int he shape of a keyboard, you people will refuse to believe that the goddamned sun hangs in the heavens.

[Forthe]

Very well, you both just opposed not only the United States, the but entire United Nations security council.

Congratulations.

But hey, the rest of the world can't possibly be as smart as Forthe and Kyoukan, right?

The resolution called for serious repercussions, it was a very gerneral term. This resolution did not specify war even tho that is how the US governement is using it to try to pressure allies.

Atokal your history lesson post is so original, did you come up with that on your own? You really are simple minded, you come across as a CNN couch potato cheerleader.

If you want a history lesson read a little about the German invasion of Poland. Read up on the propaganda they used to justify it, but maybe that would be dangerous for someone so easily lead such as yourself. Comparing that situation to our current one isn't difficult.

I'd rather the US go back to the isolationist ways than have the US become a Germany.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Very well, you both just opposed not only the United States, the but entire United Nations security council.

Congratulations.

But hey, the rest of the world can't possibly be as smart as Forthe and Kyoukan, right?

The resolution called for serious repercussions, it was a very gerneral term. This resolution did not specify war even tho that is how the US governement is using it to try to pressure allies.

Atokal your history lesson post is so original, did you come up with that on your own? You really are simple minded, you come across as a CNN couch potato cheerleader.

If you want a history lesson read a little about the German invasion of Poland. Read up on the propaganda they used to justify it, but maybe that would be dangerous for someone so easily lead such as yourself. Comparing that situation to our current one isn't difficult.

I'd rather the US go back to the isolationist ways than have the US become a Germany.

If you actually pay attention to what it said by Bush and his staff regarding Iraq, you wouldn't think we were anything like a Germany. But, listening is most peoples problem on this board.

[Fallanthas]

Very well Forthe, let's see you come up with a serious repercussion beyond those used over the last twelve years and short of war.

There are only two choices left. Exile for Saddam or war to oust him.

Your statements that things should go back to the way they were for the last four years are silly. The U.N. has clearly stated in 1441 that the last four years were not buisness as usual, they were Iraqs most current act of defiance against the will of the council.

1441 states this is Iraqs last chance to comply before serious steps against them are taken. I would quote the passage here, but you really should read the document yourself.

[Rikk Wolvenkin]

You do realize WHY we can't use simple assassinations of foreign leaders to prevent largescale violence? Because of pussies like you that whine about their human rights. Never mind that assassinating 10 people would save the lives of tens of thousands and not destroy the land and ecosystems of millions of acres of land. Oh no, we must prevent something as barbaric as picking out and killing a maniacal leader because he doesn't wear a military uniform.

Actually, the reason we can't use "simple assasinations" is because of an executive order put into effect because of the dangerous precedent that would be set by the US conducting "simple assasinations", and as part of a restatement of the mission of departments like the CIA that had gotten out of control in the 60s and 70s. It opens the door to similar actions being taken against US presidents. Argue all you want that other countries wouldn't hesitate to assasinate a president if they could. It won't change the fact that it IS the reason behind the executive order.

[Voronwë]

Iraq already tried to assassinate Bush Sr. So i'm not sure we need to worry about precedents. I still have never really understood the logic behind this.

because quite honestly , why should the general population of a country suffer the brutality of war because of a few jackass politicians at the top?

if your quarrel is with a nation's leadership that is where the focus should be.

[Mort]

I dont understand why you guys keep arguing..... Liberalism is a fucking mental disease. You cannot reason with them, they will not listen to logic. However, that being said.... they will be the first ones up in arms once we get attacked saying, "Where was the FBI, why didnt they see this coming.....".

Makes me sick.

I am not a warmonger, nor do I wish to see any innocents lose thier life. I guess to convince the world of what we need to do, many Americans must die first in some nerve agent attack. Then we can go pound this madman into a mudhole, take his oilwells and pay for the war and rebuilding the infrastructure of a suffering, repressed country.


k?

[Winnow]

Iraq already tried to assassinate Bush Sr. So i'm not sure we need to worry about precedents. I still have never really understood the logic behind this.

I think it comes down to leaders not wanting to be assassinated themselves or to encourage attempts on their own lives.

That said, I would think our covert operations could do a little more in this department. There's got to be some scared Iraqi leader types that would like to make a deal with the US in order to save their asses. Think about it...Xyun, Forthe, Miir or Kyoukan would sell out in a second for a free month of EQ to help someone overthrow "Dubya".

[Forthe]

Very well Forthe, let's see you come up with a serious repercussion beyond those used over the last twelve years and short of war.

There are only two choices left. Exile for Saddam or war to oust him.

Your statements that things should go back to the way they were for the last four years are silly. The U.N. has clearly stated in 1441 that the last four years were not buisness as usual, they were Iraqs most current act of defiance against the will of the council.

1441 states this is Iraqs last chance to comply before serious steps against them are taken. I would quote the passage here, but you really should read the document yourself.

Serious repercussions can mean anything. It is up to the individual signee to determine its meaning. Putting that vague statement in there gave all those that signed it an out while also giving the US what it wanted.

Why are there only 2 choices left? Because you say so?

Those 4 years were quite quiet. The only noise from Iraq was them shooting at US\UK jets in the no fly zones. I wonder how many of you know that the no fly zones were not established by the UN. The US\UK have been enforcing (and have expanded them several times) these zones quite illegally.

So yes war is our only choice! If we don't invade iraq they might go back to being a quiet little country we never hear about.

[Forthe]

I am not a warmonger, nor do I wish to see any innocents lose thier life. I guess to convince the world of what we need to do, many Americans must die first in some nerve agent attack. Then we can go pound this madman into a mudhole, take his oilwells and pay for the war and rebuilding the infrastructure of a suffering, repressed country.

Yes. Punish them for crimes they actually commit, not crimes they might - could possiblly - 5-10 years from now maybe commit.

I'm sure you would like to stop the next murder you will read about in your local paper. Would you give the state the right to pre-emptively deal with people it deams potential murderers?

Do you think the government could scare the population via a terror campaign into giving them this domestic power? That is what they are doing for their foreign policy.

[vn_Tanc]

Serious repercussions can mean anything

Actually it's diplomatic double-speak for war. That's a given and was well reported at the time of the resolution.

And Mort you fucking chump, us filthy liberals here are not saying there should be no war regardless of threat. We just don't see any credible threat from the available information. Change that fact and you'll change our opinions it's as simple as that.
We're just a little harder to whip into murderous frenzy with half truths, exaggeration and propoganda. Try it sometime.

[Fallanthas]

Why are there only 2 choices left? Because you say so?

Name one other. Sanctions did nothing other than prove Saddam will starve his own people to death in order to maintain his personal privledges.


Name one solution that will ensure he cannot use this weapon inventory without using armed forces.

I'm waiting.

[Ramseis]

Give me a break. All they are doing is finishing a job started 12 years ago. Bush Sr. should've finished off Iraq but he had too much pressure to stop.

For all of you peace lovin hippies would you feel the same way if the terrorists took out your ty dyed shirt factory. Or to be a bit more civilized what if they took out one of your nations prized treasures? If you can say that then I guess you must not give a crap about your country.

Americans are looking out for themselves and they are acting on known areas of problems for the U.S. They aren't going to Canada or Europe looking for terrorist because for the most part these countries cause countries/continents cause no problems.

You can look and see where the U.S. has been attacked from by outside forces most are in the Middle East and Africa for the most part very lawless and corrupted countries. This doesn't mean just the U.S. but any military bases or embassador buildings.

[Forthe]

Why are there only 2 choices left? Because you say so?

Name one other. Sanctions did nothing other than prove Saddam will starve his own people to death in order to maintain his personal privledges.


Name one solution that will ensure he cannot use this weapon inventory without using armed forces.

I'm waiting.

You give me a way to similarly ensure the same from the US.

[Fallanthas]

Dodge, duck, and run, bud.


Still waiting for an answer.

[Winnow]

Why are there only 2 choices left? Because you say so?

Name one other. Sanctions did nothing other than prove Saddam will starve his own people to death in order to maintain his personal privledges.


Name one solution that will ensure he cannot use this weapon inventory without using armed forces.

I'm waiting.

You give me a way to similarly ensure the same from the US.

Oh come on Forthe : ) That was weak!

[vn_Tanc]

For all of you peace lovin hippies would you feel the same way if the terrorists took out your ty dyed shirt factory

This particular peace-loving hippie has lived under continual threat of terrorist action his entire life. Other than a handful of incovenient bombscares it hasn't affected me personally but I have friends with scars.
Terrorism cannot be warred upon only solved through negotiation, understanding and a mutual desire for peace IMO.
How you respond to the threat of terror is your own choice. I choose not to live in fear and start wars out of panic.

Similarly I spent the first half of my life knowing that at any second with no warning I could be informed I have approximately four minutes to live because the cold war suddenly turned hot.

Threats to our lives and way of life are ever present. Whether or not a government chooses to emphasis or downplay this depends on their objectives at any given time.

[Mort]

Serious repercussions can mean anything

Actually it's diplomatic double-speak for war. That's a given and was well reported at the time of the resolution.

And Mort you fucking chump, us filthy liberals here are not saying there should be no war regardless of threat. We just don't see any credible threat from the available information. Change that fact and you'll change our opinions it's as simple as that.
We're just a little harder to whip into murderous frenzy with half truths, exaggeration and propoganda. Try it sometime.

Dude, he was getting his ass kicked for being a lunatic. He was backed into a corner and AGREED to these measures so we would back off. Remember, the UN (The World) was backing this. That was 12 fucking years ago, and now you want to convince me that he is simply bowed out of anything having to due with WMD?

What did he do with everything?

Please take the time to read the fine print of what the WORLD demanded of him. http://www.un.int/usa/sres-iraq.htm . He is in breach of almost every single resolution. Why the fuck are you so blind? This wasn't us, it was the United Nations. What good is the UN if they dont even back up thier own resolutions?

[Forthe]

Oh come on Forthe : ) That was weak!

Quoting 1 introducing sentence without the following paragraph was weak.

Dodge, duck, and run, bud.

Still waiting for an answer.

You want a real solution. I'll give you a couple grand exagerated ones.

Put 250,000 investigators (not inspectors) in Iraq for a month.

It will be cheaper, have a definate end, and won't kill anyone.

Or.....

You could keep the 300 inspectors in Iraq for 70 years.

It will be cheaper, have a definate end, and won't kill anyone.

[Fallanthas]

Sorry, head U.N. inspector Hans Blix has said publicly that further inspection is doomed to failure unless the Iraqui government gives active support to the process.


Next try.

[Acies]

For all of you peace lovin hippies would you feel the same way if the terrorists took out your ty dyed shirt factory. Or to be a bit more civilized what if they took out one of your nations prized treasures? If you can say that then I guess you must not give a crap about your country.

You sir, are an idiot. I ask you this very simple question, and I will state it slow so you can hopefully process this:
What...Does...Saddam...Have...to...do...with...9...1...1...?
NOTHING! That's what. Bush used a clever smoke and mirror technique to divert attention from Osama to Saddam. According to your own reasoning, by allowing your view to be shifted by the mini-me of George Bush Sr, you are forgetting who attacked America, and the people that died at the WTC and Pentagon on 911. So I must insist that YOU are the shithole that does not give a crap about our country.

[Winnow]

invade iraq they might go back to being a quiet little country we never hear about.

Are you saying I'm misquoting you?

[Forthe]

Sorry, head U.N. inspector Hans Blix has said publicly that further inspection is doomed to failure unless the Iraqui government gives active support to the process.


Next try.

Damn you can be dumb. You asked for a means to ensure he won't use those weapons. Then you ignore 1 of the 2 possiblities I gave you. And I'm confident we will hinder any weapons research and development with inspectors running around.

I feel sorry for your parents that the fact I gave you two exagerated scenario's that are still preferrable to war is lost on you.

War is the only option is your mind because you are a moron.

[Krimson Klaw]

Yes, America is number one. Hope you have as much patriotism about your homeland too. If not, sorry for you.

So the fact you state that america is number one has to do with patriotism?
Meaning they are connected somehow. The more patriot you are the better America becomes?

Ok let me scale it down then. America is number one. I don't care if you feel the same or not about your own country.

Much better, I agree with you.

[Forthe]

Suck it Winnow

[Fallanthas]

Dumb?


Dumb is putting forth an option that the chosen expert on the subject has told you is useless.

Dumb is insisting that you know better than someone working in the field, on the problem.


If this is the best you can do, then sit down and shut up. You are beginning to bore me, Forthe.

[Acies]

You know, I almost wish we would fucking nuke Iraq now just to get this topic to close...
must have... aspirin...

[*~*stragi*~*]

antioch sux
do you know kevin perrera?

[Ramseis]

Well if America didn't have to play baby sitter for the whole world it would be nice. When George Washington was president he said stay out of foreign affairs it will only cause trouble or something to that extent. He was right the U.S. pumps millions of dollars a year to countries to help them out. I would be glad to have the U.S. take care of itself but you know what more than likely happen a hell of a lot of chaos and us having to come to the rescue like we did in WW2.

What they are doing in nipping things in the bud you don't let it grow. If the U.S. would've entered WW2 when GB and the rest of Europe asked it wouldn't have been nearly as big.

Also you still haven't answered my question except for vn_tanc what would you do if your country was hit by a terrorist attack.

One last thing about the U.N. if the U.S. left there would be no U.N. plain and simple.

[Acies]

antioch sux
do you know kevin perrera?

Your right Stagi, and yeah, I think so. Name sounds very familiar.

[Voronwë]

yeah what would the UK do if there was terrorism there?

yes and that G. Washington quote really does make me rethink the US Foreign Policy.

Let's do a little math real quick:
in 1776 how much of the US economy depended upon foreign interests? not much

in 2002 how much of the US economy depends on foreign interests? a whole fucking lot

please stfu with that isolationist nonsense. nonsense is describing it politely quite honestly.

[Pyronius Flamebringer]

Kilmoll I wouldnt expect people like Kyou from communist countries to understand much about the outside world. Im thinking Kyoukan gets most of her world news from these message boards.

[Atokal]

Kilmoll I wouldnt expect people like Kyou from communist countries to understand much about the outside world. Im thinking Kyoukan gets most of her world news from these message boards.

Several times you have pulled your head out of your ass, posted on these boards only to once again prove that where your head was is where it belongs.

Canada is not a communist country.
We have universal health care, and because of this some ignorant assholes down south of the border who marry their first cousins, carry guns, and burn crosses call us communist. You all do marry your cousins or sisters right?
All of you carry guns right?
You are all bigotted miscreants right?

/sarcasm off

[kyoukan]

Iraq already tried to assassinate Bush Sr. So i'm not sure we need to worry about precedents. I still have never really understood the logic behind this.

because quite honestly , why should the general population of a country suffer the brutality of war because of a few jackass politicians at the top?

if your quarrel is with a nation's leadership that is where the focus should be.

Assassinating Saddam is a waste of time. If you drop xanupox into Iraq with his sniper rifle and take out Saddam, then his eldest son Uday will take over. He controls a lot of the republican guard, and if you think Saddam is a motherfucker, Uday Hussein is completely batshit, Bond-villain crazy. So you assassinate him, and his second son takes over. He is an America hating prick as well. So you waste him and a high ranking general takes over. The pecking order in Saddam's cult of personality is pretty fucking long. Not even a highly skilled air-force sniper like xan could carry that many bullets.

Taking out world leaders with assassins sets a pretty awful precedent anyway. I would fail to see why I would feel sorry if someone knocked off a US president if the US adopted a policy on assassination.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Atok, I believe Pyro was being facetious with the communist comments. With the likes of Miir, Kyoukan, and company posting, Canada looks like a breeding ground for hatred of the U.S.

Forthe, I believe there are going to be 250,000 inspectors in Iraq at some point in the next couple months. on the downside for Iraq, I expect they may be heavily armed.