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Anyone else see Inception this weekend? I thought it was great: the visuals and special effects looked awesome, the acting was decent, and it was a pretty original idea.

I've seen a few critics say that it didn't make sense, and I thought it seemed pretty straightforward. My wife had some questions about it, but she's pretty ADHD when it comes to watching movies.

I would definitely recommend it!
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I am really looking forward to this. I was kind of put off by a few of the reviews being SO positive...and some reviewers saying, "only see this movie, fuck the rest" mentality in their reviews...that usually screams bad things to me...but good to see they actually mean it, and weren't just paid to say it. The other turn off for me was all the "dark knight" this and "dark knight" that stuff in the ads. I didn't care for the dark knight. thought it was visually great, but the story was nothing special to me, and far to political. So that scared me that this was just a political item as well.

Hoping for more positive VV reviews...Leo is putting out some movies lately, that's for sure.
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I loved this movie. At one point, I was confused about why they were doing something, but saw it all play out and then understood it.

I think this is the best movie of 2010 so far.
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Incredibly enjoyable flick. Tense the entire time. A neuron workout throughout, and I'm still thinking about it two days later. I can't wait to see it a second time and notice how much the movie changes.
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This movie suffers from the same fault that many projects have when a young gun gets off the leash: lack of editing. So much of the exposition was pointless repetition, much of the action could have come from a Michael Bay flick (this is not a compliment), and the amazing visual effects fizzle out before for the climax (see spoiler).

There were some truly awesome visuals, but I found the plot pedantic and predictable, not clever or smart. The ending was the least insulting part, the only bit that wasn't minutely spoon-fed to the audience. This is the baby food of psychological thrillers: brightly colored and mashed into a pulp easily ingested by primates with only rudimentary digestive abilities.
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Level 3, the deepest part of the dream, looked like something out of an episode of the old GI Joe cartoon. WTF, mate?
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masteen wrote:This movie suffers from the same fault that many projects have when a young gun gets off the leash: lack of editing. So much of the exposition was pointless repetition, much of the action could have come from a Michael Bay flick (this is not a compliment), and the amazing visual effects fizzle out before for the climax (see spoiler).

There were some truly awesome visuals, but I found the plot pedantic and predictable, not clever or smart. The ending was the least insulting part, the only bit that wasn't minutely spoon-fed to the audience. This is the baby food of psychological thrillers: brightly colored and mashed into a pulp easily ingested by primates with only rudimentary digestive abilities.
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Level 3, the deepest part of the dream, looked like something out of an episode of the old GI Joe cartoon. WTF, mate?
I think that your entire post is negative, and that you probably sat through this movie with a similar frame of mind. Was it worth $7-10 or not?
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I suppose I don't share your standards, but this kept me thinking on all cylinders throughout. At least concede that it was a fresh idea??

Here's hoping your type isn't the one holding the leash ~
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It was a great idea, but failed in the execution. Worth 10 bucks? Maybe. Worth 2.5 hours of my time (3 including previews)? Not even close. I kept wishing for a fast forward button whenever Cobb felt the need to explain some basic concept again.

Maybe some sexy blue catmonkeys would have made it better.
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I'm interested in seeing this, but likely as a rental since that is a rather long run time!
I kept wishing for a fast forward button whenever Cobb felt the need to explain some basic concept again.
Is this one of those movies like that awful Vanilla Sky where a character has to explain something at the audience?

That said, I like Nolan's work.
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Yes, they felt the need to explain numerous fairly simple concepts of this movie's mythos far too often. I can only assume this is done to make stupid people feel clever that they "got it."

I loved Memento and the two Batman movies. The Batmen, despite having some plot stickers, keeps moving so frantically that you don't have time to analyze. Plus, it's faithful to the context of Gotham from the comics. Memento, possibly because of the unusual temporal progression (and better editing), also doesn't invite that kind of criticism during the first viewing.
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Hmmm, that makes it a clincher for rental then. Hollywood <3s that kind of shit.

I am sure it does not suck as much as Crash though!
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masteen wrote:Yes, they felt the need to explain numerous fairly simple concepts of this movie's mythos far too often. I can only assume this is done to make stupid people feel clever that they "got it."
I don't feel like they beat you over the head with it. In fact, I'm trying to remember specific instances of them doing it and can only think of a couple.
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They explained what an inception was and argued about how impossible doing it was at least three separate times, for at least 10 minutes each. 20 minutes wasted right there.

Explained what the architect does twice with at least as many digressions into the fact that Cobb can't know the specific layouts, with another 2 sub-digressions between him and Juno regarding his pet succubus. I'll be conservative, and call that another 20 wasted minutes.

Without even delving into the generic action sequences, I've already edited this fucker down under 2 hours.

You know how they say time passes faster in a dream? Well, they captured that feeling really well, because that movie actually felt LONGER than it's actual run time.
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You greatly frustrate me, Masteen.
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OH NO I FOUND A FILM THAT IS CLEARLY A PIECE OF EXPOSITIONAL LIGHT HEARTED NONSENSE TO BE FAR TOO EXPOSITIONAL



Oh no! Fuck, thank fuck you showed us the light on this one! We would never EVER have noticed the valid and serious criticism that the deliberately expositional dream film is expositional.



Jesus christ, talk about missing the fucking point.


I still love you, I'm just being dramatic myself. Why not write a review about that too! :drinking:
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Umm, I loved it. I am so happy that I chose to go to this movie instead of The Last Airbender. I don't know why but there is something about Ellen Page that I find hot.

I give this movie a 9/10.
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masteen wrote:It was a great idea, but failed in the execution. Worth 10 bucks? Maybe. Worth 2.5 hours of my time (3 including previews)? Not even close. I kept wishing for a fast forward button whenever Cobb felt the need to explain some basic concept again.
I watched a lot of this movie at 120% speed. (normalized audio so no chipmunks)

The Idea was interesting. I thought the execution was lacking...not the acting, the story itself.

Go track down Dreamscape released back 1984.

Check out the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCrtOAC-wsE

been there. done that.
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Those are funny. I never even thought about have the kids flown out of country. That makes even better.

I believe it is Michael Cain though not Cane.
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Thought this was an excellent film. Straightforward, and I thought I came out of it totally getting it and no question in my mind, but...
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the ending's been nagging at me. It's the kids. They were the same age as when he last saw them, the daughter at least sounded much older on the phone. So maybe he was dreaming? I dunno. I'm surprised I'm left wondering. As for the top at the end, I was sure it was about to topple and they cut it early to make the audience go 'ooh ahh'. But the kids... that didn't sit right.
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The top was a red herring.
It was all a dream.
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The top is irrelevant. The fact that he walks away from it before he sees the result is what's significant.
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The top was a red herring.
It was all a dream.
I see no significant evidence to support that, but wouldn't discount it.
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The top was a red herring.
It was all a dream.
I see no significant evidence to support that, but wouldn't discount it.
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At one point, he spins the top in what we think is his reality but we never saw the top actually stop on it's own. I remember it falling off a bathroom counter and picked it up as it was still spinning.

I think we are left to believe he was in a dream the entire time. Possibly, he never woke up from the dream he was in with his wife.
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There's lots of evidence that the whole thing's a dream. Look online and it'll be easy to find. Some basic ones are: The wall closing in sequence when escaping, the Japanese guy just happens to be there to pick him up when he had no idea where he'd run, his wife was on the opposite balcony during the suicide, the entire ending sequence being filmed in another style, MC picking him up at the airport when he wasn't called, kids in same position/clothes/age when he gets home, the whole dream machine which wasn't discussed at all (dream filler) and several more
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I tend to agree with the Internet folks who believe that interview with the costume designer. Methinks it was not what miir thinks.
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here's my "kick" back to reality:

Appalachian State beats Arizona State in Football = Dream

Appalachian State beats Michigan in Football = Not a Dream!
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I looked very closely as the costume designer said.

The boy was wearing the same plaid shirt and green shorts and the girl still had the same pinkish dress.
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The girls voice on the phone still sounded too old to me to be the little girl we see at the end. But then, if that's so, then it stands to reason that when he's talking on the phone, that part was reality, because why would he dream her sounding older and then at the end have her be the little girl again.


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Amazing movie. It's pretty amazing how Nolan can communicate such odd, sideways stories and make them understandable. If you look back at all his movies, his choice of casting is inspired. Inception was no different.

Nolan is a AAA film maker. Inception is just another part of his legacy.
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Watching this right now, about 45 minutes from the end. Like it a lot so far!
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