Deep fry fish while keeping them alive then eating

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 16, 2009, 9:32 pm

China finds way to deep fry fish while keeping them alive so they alive while you eat.

http://digg.com/food_drink/Whoa_This_ju ... Stories%29

wtf? I couldn't even click on the digg link. That's sick. Someone go read the article.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » November 16, 2009, 9:37 pm

It's not like some big secret, but aside of the morality of torturing an animal to that degree, all the stress hormones that fish released during preparation cannot make it taste better.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 16, 2009, 10:00 pm

i don't really get the huge moral difference between this and other forms of meat eating.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 16, 2009, 10:19 pm

Most other forms of meat eating I'm guessing the critter is dispatched in a rather quick manner.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » November 16, 2009, 10:22 pm

or at least dispatched!

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 16, 2009, 10:47 pm

Really?

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video ... r.cnn.html

Enjoy your veal! Good thing we're not like those barbaric Chinese!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 16, 2009, 10:51 pm

That's one example.. I don't agree with veal or even eat beef. Besides I said "most other forms" not every single one.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 16, 2009, 11:08 pm

It's ok to eat fish 'cause they don't have any feeeee-lings.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 16, 2009, 11:09 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4

"most"

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » November 16, 2009, 11:29 pm

Slightly better(?) than the folks eating live monkey brains I suppose.

We used to hunt deer with dogs in SC, the stress\exertion made the meat taste nasty sometimes. Can't imagine this would taste good at all.

The increased agricultural land used to support a vegetarian\vegan diet causes a significant by-kill of wildlife. Depending on who's statistics you believe it's likely in excess of what would be killed to supply an omnivorous diet.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 17, 2009, 12:22 am

I eat meat. I just try to confront it honestly.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » November 17, 2009, 2:34 am

Are you often confronted when choosing which animal to devour?

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » November 17, 2009, 8:47 am

Meet the meat!

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » November 17, 2009, 9:05 am

Dont you boil lobsters alive over there?

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 17, 2009, 9:56 am

Everty time I go to the grocery store.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 17, 2009, 11:03 am

From what I understand the boiling water is pretty much an instant kill. However not being a lobster who has been boiled I can not confirm that.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » November 17, 2009, 5:06 pm

To do it properly you have to put the lobster in the pot before you turn the fire on, comes out much better. Whacking them in the head first would be a good thing, but not something the people I saw cook them that way did.

A lobster that's been out of the ocean 15 minutes cooked that way is absolutely amazing.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 17, 2009, 5:15 pm

I've never had lobster... So I could be wrong!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » November 17, 2009, 6:02 pm

I confront meat with my teeth (and sometimes a knife and fork). I don't know why you'd want to eat fish that's still wiggling if you had a choice. Bears don't seem to mind much.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » November 17, 2009, 7:51 pm

I don't know why you'd want to eat fish that's still wiggling if you had a choice

I gather the additional stress hormones enhance taste.

Trek · Post by **Trek** » November 18, 2009, 1:13 am

I prefer my fish raw and wriggling!

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 18, 2009, 8:58 am

The more humane way to do it is to drop the lobster head-first into a pot of boiling water. That will kill them pretty much instantly. Also, Lobsters make no screaming noise when boiled. They're also mighty tasty.

Drolgin Steingrinder · November 18, 2009, 10:19 am

Best thing to do with a lobster is putting it in the freezer for a few hours before dumping them in the pot. They go into a torpor and never wake up.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » November 18, 2009, 10:56 am

This thread is making me hungry for lobster. I don't think I've had it since I was maybe 10 years old.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2009, 12:51 pm

Keverian FireCry wrote:This thread is making me hungry for lobster. I don't think I've had it since I was maybe 10 years old.

Lobster is good but so is fresh Crab. I went out "crabbing" with someone north of Seattle. (well we took crabs from other people's crab traps since we were young and drunk) and had a clam bake right on the shore. I'm sure a lot of the perceived taste is the atmosphere in which you eat, but it sure tasted like the best crab I ever had! I'm guessing the crabs were alive before getting thrown into the boiling pot of water.

miir · Post by **miir** » November 18, 2009, 1:00 pm

we took crabs from other people's crab traps since we were young and drunk

And you were lucky you didn't get the crap beat out of you.. or worse.
Down east, if you get caught poaching lobster you'll get your ass filled with buckshot.

And you can't 'clam bake' a crab.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2009, 1:14 pm

miir wrote: And you were lucky you didn't get the crap beat out of you.. or worse.
Down east, if you get caught poaching lobster you'll get your ass filled with buckshot.

And you can't 'clam bake' a crab.

Whatever! I don't pretend to know anything about cooking. And yes, it was stupid to snag crabs from other people's traps although up north, meaning north of Seattle, people are a little more friendly than the backwater hicks that you refer to.

Post by **Sylvus** » November 18, 2009, 1:17 pm

Winnow caught someone else's crabs in Seattle one time?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2009, 1:34 pm

Sylvus wrote:Winnow caught someone else's crabs in Seattle one time?

That's so close to the truth, I won't touch it! (and shouldn't have back then!)

miir · Post by **miir** » November 18, 2009, 2:37 pm

Winnow wrote:meaning north of Seattle, people are a little more friendly than the backwater hicks that you refer to.

East coast folks are the nicest you can meet... until you start stealing from them.
Crab or Lobster poaching is not something you wanna get caught doing.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » November 18, 2009, 2:53 pm

I'm eating fried fish RIGHT NOW.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » November 18, 2009, 2:59 pm

miir wrote:
Winnow wrote:meaning north of Seattle, people are a little more friendly than the backwater hicks that you refer to.
East coast folks are the nicest you can meet... until you start stealing from them.
Crab or Lobster poaching is not something you wanna get caught doing.

My in-laws are from ME, they don't call it "the deep south of the northeast" for nothing. Nice folks, just don't piss them off.

Had baked cod with some cheddar on top for lunch, yum. I think it winked at me.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 18, 2009, 8:11 pm

There was a war between fishermen and natives a few years back. It clashed violently a few times. Fishing boats were burned too. Fishernem are extremely protective of thier fishing zones and extremely unkind to people poaching their traps. Can't particularly blame them either. It's been slim picking for the better part of the last 10-15 years now..

Drasta · Post by **Drasta** » November 19, 2009, 11:01 pm

hmmm im not sure thats totally a real fish .. i didn't read an article tho but shouldn't the eyes move as well? it kinda reminded me of one of those fishes that u put on the wall and it talks.

Also .. i don't see how the fish would be alive after being deep fried due to the massive amount of cytokines being released from all of the cellular damage on over like 80% of the body.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 20, 2009, 7:37 pm

Lol, I wouldn't otherwise, but if some of the northwest fishermen would love to shoot someone who was poaching crabs, salmon or otherwise! Seattle, Portland, whatever. Most of the hardcore folks are out in the sticks and drive bigass trucks with assinine ORYGUN stickers.

Nice folks around here, but don't go stealin'!

Back on topic....

Living fried fish: Notsomuch

Lobster: YES!
Crab: YES!
Mudbugs: YES!
OMGSTEAKS!!!! YEEESSSSSSSSS

I just don't want it mewling at me...

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » November 20, 2009, 10:39 pm

Canelek wrote:Living fried fish: Notsomuch

Lobster: YES!
Crab: YES!
Mudbugs: YES!
OMGSTEAKS!!!! YEEESSSSSSSSS

I think you'd be hard pressed to keep a cow alive while you deep fry it.

Trek · Post by **Trek** » November 22, 2009, 3:13 pm

This should be in the food forum!

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » November 24, 2009, 7:14 pm

mmmm mudbugs!

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » November 24, 2009, 7:15 pm

Mudbug inc! Destination: Canelek's mouth!

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » November 24, 2009, 7:18 pm

And this is how we eat them in sweden! Bork Bork Bork!

booze, bread and mudbugs!

One of the things i will miss now when living in Birmingham UK.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 24, 2009, 8:15 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjKRxa7Z ... tube_gdata

Banned PETA Thanksgiving commercial.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » November 25, 2009, 8:36 am

PETA really pisses me off. I'm not even sure if their intentions are good any more. I feel like they favor controversy, publicity, and attention over any actual changes within our society.

If their intentions are truly noble, then I guess they are simply stubborn idiots.

The commercial is targetting factory farming of Turkeys. Factory farming is something we all should be aware of, but their only recommendation for us to battle factory farming is to never eat any animal products again!! The vast majority of people who watch this commercial are still gonna cook their goddamn turkey and they sure as fuck aren't going to give up all animal products overnight.

PETA could be far more successful if they promoted sustainable and/or local farming, whether or not it involves animal products. Is PETA not aware that some of the major staples in vegan diets can come from giant factory farms in countries across the globe, which often have terrible environmental records? Or that shipping these vegan staples across the globe can end up killing more animals than a responsible meat-eater could ever eat in his/her entire life?

Just some thoughts. I'm tired. Gnight.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 25, 2009, 11:42 am

Does anyone actually take PETA seriously anymore? They've turned themselves into a joke.

Post by **Xouqoa** » November 27, 2009, 12:38 am