Poll: Obama rating slips

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 23, 2009, 11:18 pm

hmmm, Obama not looking so hot lately.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » April 23, 2009, 11:25 pm

Let the presidential aging process begin. Anyone have a link to those before/after pictures? That office just drains everyone who steps into it.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 23, 2009, 11:29 pm

Kaldaur wrote:Let the presidential aging process begin. Anyone have a link to those before/after pictures? That office just drains everyone who steps into it.

That pic taken after he was informed about the alien presence and 2012.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 24, 2009, 12:41 am

Winnow wrote:

hmmm, Obama not looking so hot lately.

That's a "photo illustration demonstrating how he might age over four years in office". That's not how he actually looks presently...

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » April 24, 2009, 12:47 am

miir wrote:Spin it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xkJXjSQ7s

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 24, 2009, 1:04 am

Lalanae wrote:
miir wrote:Spin it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xkJXjSQ7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHm-k5rRcww

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 24, 2009, 1:21 am

I so miss the 80s

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 27, 2009, 8:33 pm

Nice move Obama:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/27/low.fl ... index.html

Does all this guy do is showboat? Hey, lets do a close fly by of New York with a fight jet tailing us! Wow, not very bright.

Air Force One Flying Low Over NYC Panicking Locals

city.com — People on the street panicked, starting yelling and running, with thoughts of 9/11 in the back of their minds. City.com has managed to get its hands on this exclusive video from the street during the fly-by.

I can't say I blame them...That footage was actually taken in the financial district right by the world trade center...

I probably would have ***** my pants too if I saw a huge plane followed by an F18 following it coming right for me...

Crazyness

The aircraft was a White House plane taking part in a classified, government-sanctioned photo shoot, the Federal Aviation Administration said.

The incident outraged many New Yorkers, including Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

"First thing is, I'm annoyed -- furious is a better word -- that I wasn't told," he said, calling the aviation administration's decision to withhold details about the flight "ridiculous" and "poor judgment."

"Why the Defense Department wanted to do a photo op right around the site of the World Trade Center defies the imagination," he said. "Had we known, I would have asked them not to."

Spang · Post by **Spang** » April 27, 2009, 8:45 pm

It was fucking retarded, but I don't think Obama is to blame:

"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision," said Louis Caldera, director of the White House Military Office. "While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it's clear that the mission created confusion and disruption."

Winnow already posted a link to the source but I don't think he actually read the article.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 27, 2009, 8:54 pm

Spang wrote:It was fucking retarded, but I don't think Obama is to blame:

Obama is responsible for everyone under him. That includes Hillary (yikes) as well as the director of the White House Military Office.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 27, 2009, 9:01 pm

Not only that but the markets were down today. Fuckin Obama!

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » April 27, 2009, 11:21 pm

Winnow wrote:
Spang wrote:It was fucking retarded, but I don't think Obama is to blame:
Obama is responsible for everyone under him. That includes Hillary (yikes) as well as the director of the White House Military Office.

Your logic makes Bush a war criminal.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 2, 2009, 12:43 pm

Unemployment Rate Hits 9.5 Percent As Economy Sheds 467,000 Jobs In June

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/0 ... 24640.html

The U.S. economy lost 467,000 jobs in June as the national unemployment rate rose to 9.5 percent, the government announced on Thursday morning. While that's only one-tenth of a percentage point from May, the current rate is the highest rate in 26 years.

Great job Obama! Go meet some more world leaders and hobnob. Party on dude!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » July 2, 2009, 12:57 pm

Only continuing the trend set in motion by the Bush administration.

It also looks like the last line segment wasn't in line with the previous ones as far as the angle goes. So might be seeing a slowdown/turnaround!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » July 2, 2009, 1:02 pm

Why does it need to be Seasonally Adjusted?...

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » July 2, 2009, 1:10 pm

Figures like this are always adjusted for seasonal variations in employment levels. If the reports didn't take those variations into account, the numbers would be less useful in painting a proper picture of the employment situation. That should be good for a laugh to those that understand that our unemployment figures don't include the underemployed (who've taken on part-time work well below their previous employment to help make ends meet) or those who have given up on finding a job for now. Most countries do include these portions of the unemployed, but not us. The real unemployment numbers are, and have been, well above 10% for a long time, and are now approaching 17%. We can be sticklers for making sure that seasonal variations are accounted for, but not statistics that are even more important and impactful.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 2, 2009, 1:33 pm

Winnow wrote:Unemployment Rate Hits 9.5 Percent As Economy Sheds 467,000 Jobs In June

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/0 ... 24640.html

Winnow wrote:The Huffington Post? Find a real news source!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 2, 2009, 1:36 pm

Been waiting to use that one for awhile now I bet!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 2, 2009, 1:38 pm

Winnow wrote:Been waiting to use that one for awhile now I bet!

I have a good memory.

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » July 24, 2009, 5:35 am

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll

One of the most accurate polling institutes the past 8 years. Obama still has a positive approval rating 51 vs. 48%, but stong unfavor to strong favor is 36 vs. 29%. The importance of the 20% or so change is the momentum and its a leading indicator. More people bashing or loving brings more negative or positive trends.

Personally i think Obama has a min. cap of always being over 29-35% favorble no matter what he does, similar numbers to Bush's last dismal years. With the upcoming Healthcare Failure look to him to level out around 45% approval over the next year.

Things that will move it positive:
Healthcare reform without a gov't option (ect medicare or medicaid or failures).

No more Bailouts or spending!

Stronger stance internationally. WTF is this shit in Honduras? Very unpopular among general American population. NOT supporting a congress and military and supreme court protecting there constituion!!!!!!! They are ousting a Chaves Castro supported president want to be dictator making more terms for himself. People there hate him...a 50,000 person rally CNN put on TV supporting him was actually agaisnt him and when they got word they started attacking the CNN reporters. Atleast that is what Ive heard from a couple peeps I know were there.

The one thing I see in common with this administration and the previous 2 is that they are controlled in ways by Goldman Sachs, and all of them should be investigated and if guilty should be tried and if found guilty hung on national TV for treason. Bet that would get more ratings than American Idol!!!

I HATE THE GOVERNMENT!

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » July 24, 2009, 3:02 pm

stolen from fohSS

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » July 24, 2009, 8:51 pm

Sirton wrote:http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll

One of the most accurate polling institutes the past 8 years. Obama still has a positive approval rating 51 vs. 48%, but stong unfavor to strong favor is 36 vs. 29%. The importance of the 20% or so change is the momentum and its a leading indicator. More people bashing or loving brings more negative or positive trends.

Personally i think Obama has a min. cap of always being over 29-35% favorble no matter what he does, similar numbers to Bush's last dismal years. With the upcoming Healthcare Failure look to him to level out around 45% approval over the next year.

Things that will move it positive:
Healthcare reform without a gov't option (ect medicare or medicaid or failures).

No more Bailouts or spending!

Stronger stance internationally. WTF is this shit in Honduras? Very unpopular among general American population. NOT supporting a congress and military and supreme court protecting there constituion!!!!!!! They are ousting a Chaves Castro supported president want to be dictator making more terms for himself. People there hate him...a 50,000 person rally CNN put on TV supporting him was actually agaisnt him and when they got word they started attacking the CNN reporters. Atleast that is what Ive heard from a couple peeps I know were there.

The one thing I see in common with this administration and the previous 2 is that they are controlled in ways by Goldman Sachs, and all of them should be investigated and if guilty should be tried and if found guilty hung on national TV for treason. Bet that would get more ratings than American Idol!!!

I HATE THE GOVERNMENT!

You are still an idiot.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » July 24, 2009, 11:21 pm

That'd be an understatement.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » October 14, 2009, 7:04 pm

Market over 10,000 today. I guess Obama is Jesus after all, based on Winnow's analysis at least.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 14, 2009, 9:55 pm

Gzette wrote:Market over 10,000 today. I guess Obama is Jesus after all, based on Winnow's analysis at least.

It's back to the same level is was a year ago (peaked at 10,124 Oct 8, 2008)

That was a year of zero progress. Proves my point. He's done nothing yet is praised for it.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » October 14, 2009, 10:20 pm

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 15, 2009, 1:14 am

Cool, now do one as Blackula!

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » October 15, 2009, 8:59 am

Kaldaur wrote:
Sirton wrote:http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll

One of the most accurate polling institutes the past 8 years. Obama still has a positive approval rating 51 vs. 48%, but stong unfavor to strong favor is 36 vs. 29%. The importance of the 20% or so change is the momentum and its a leading indicator. More people bashing or loving brings more negative or positive trends.

Personally i think Obama has a min. cap of always being over 29-35% favorble no matter what he does, similar numbers to Bush's last dismal years. With the upcoming Healthcare Failure look to him to level out around 45% approval over the next year.

Things that will move it positive:
Healthcare reform without a gov't option (ect medicare or medicaid or failures).

No more Bailouts or spending!

Stronger stance internationally. WTF is this shit in Honduras? Very unpopular among general American population. NOT supporting a congress and military and supreme court protecting there constituion!!!!!!! They are ousting a Chaves Castro supported president want to be dictator making more terms for himself. People there hate him...a 50,000 person rally CNN put on TV supporting him was actually agaisnt him and when they got word they started attacking the CNN reporters. Atleast that is what Ive heard from a couple peeps I know were there.

The one thing I see in common with this administration and the previous 2 is that they are controlled in ways by Goldman Sachs, and all of them should be investigated and if guilty should be tried and if found guilty hung on national TV for treason. Bet that would get more ratings than American Idol!!!

I HATE THE GOVERNMENT!

You are still an idiot.

Kaldaur, its Sirton: of course he's still an idiot. His private insurance doesn't cover brain transplants, or education to explain most of the issues being debated and define the phrase "conflict of interest".

Winnow wrote:
Gzette wrote:Market over 10,000 today. I guess Obama is Jesus after all, based on Winnow's analysis at least.

It's back to the same level is was a year ago (peaked at 10,124 Oct 8, 2008)

That was a year of zero progress. Proves my point. He's done nothing yet is praised for it.

Doesn't that mean that the US economy has stabilized and may be bouncing back from the recession that Obama's predecessors created (I use the plural because the banking/credit clusterfuck wasn't just Bush's fault, although he didn't do anything to fix it, aside from start the bail out process that seems to be one of the biggest criticisms of Obama's economic policy

)? I'll admit I'm hoping he does at least "OK" though not out of any partisan/philosophical loyalties but rather out of self interest: as the US economy does, so does the rest of North America (where I live), if not the world.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » October 15, 2009, 1:36 pm

Wulfran wrote:I'll admit I'm hoping he does at least "OK" though not out of any partisan/philosophical loyalties but rather out of self interest: as the US economy does, so does the rest of North America (where I live), if not the world.

That means you're brighter than most everyone on Fox, AM talk radio and most of the Republican party.

*Edit - My post-election "tentatively optimistic" view has soured almost completely. He was in a position to make a difference and thus far has squandered it. Momentum is everything. Business is as usual in DC.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » October 15, 2009, 2:07 pm

Winnow wrote:It's back to the same level is was a year ago (peaked at 10,124 Oct 8, 2008)

That was a year of zero progress. Proves my point. He's done nothing yet is praised for it.

Oh, I see. The Dow closed at 7949.09 on the day that Obama took office. Before that, you were so quick to blame him for every decline, large or small, that he couldn't possibly have had any control over. Once he was in office, every drop in the market was a sign that Obama was fucking up the country and we were all on the road to ruin. Now that the market has actually gained more than 20% since he took office, it's obviously something upon which he and his policies have had absolutely no positive impact. Gotcha

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » October 15, 2009, 2:19 pm

Aabidano wrote:*Edit - My post-election "tentatively optimistic" view has soured almost completely. He was in a position to make a difference and thus far has squandered it. Momentum is everything. Business is as usual in DC.

I'm hoping that the sense of disappointment that many Obama supporters feel or will be feeling will serve to open their eyes that our system is broken. It's built to preserve the status quo and make any real change, no matter how much the people may want it, nearly impossible to implement. Obama and the Democrats didn't fail to capitalize on perceived momentum. Instead, their momentum was crushed by a system of barriers designed to stymie change. It isn't a failing of one man, or even one party, and it works both ways. It's why the Republicans were unable to accomplish many of their more ambitions objectives when they controlled the legislative and executive branches. This is merely another in a long line of failures of our horribly designed system. 233 years of living with this mess is long enough, maybe more people will realize it's time to rethink some things.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » October 16, 2009, 4:34 pm

Forget the fact that the market dropped roughly 30-40% from the time Bush took office to the time he left.

You know this is a silly way to score a president. I was just trolling a troll in my previous post. I apologize.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 16, 2009, 5:25 pm

Wow! Bush was working so hard to get the deficit down and than WHAM!, Obama blows it up like nobody's business!

Craziness! yet this man is celebrated for zero progress!

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » October 16, 2009, 5:55 pm

Obama's response to Winnow's trolling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHcxzBwj ... tube_gdata

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 18, 2009, 7:38 am

Curious graph, v's

http://i5.scribdassets.com/profiles/ima ... large.gif2

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » October 18, 2009, 11:17 am

Zaelath wrote:Curious graph, v's

http://i5.scribdassets.com/profiles/ima ... large.gif2

It's Obama's fault that the link doesn't work.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » October 18, 2009, 6:15 pm

Xatrei wrote:
Aabidano wrote:*Edit - My post-election "tentatively optimistic" view has soured almost completely. He was in a position to make a difference and thus far has squandered it. Momentum is everything. Business is as usual in DC.
I'm hoping that the sense of disappointment that many Obama supporters feel or will be feeling will serve to open their eyes that our system is broken. It's built to preserve the status quo and make any real change, no matter how much the people may want it, nearly impossible to implement. Obama and the Democrats didn't fail to capitalize on perceived momentum. Instead, their momentum was crushed by a system of barriers designed to stymie change. It isn't a failing of one man, or even one party, and it works both ways. It's why the Republicans were unable to accomplish many of their more ambitions objectives when they controlled the legislative and executive branches. This is merely another in a long line of failures of our horribly designed system. 233 years of living with this mess is long enough, maybe more people will realize it's time to rethink some things.

Isn't that what I have been saying pre and post election?

The only party the people in office seem to care about is the good ol boy network that keeps them in office. If they can help each other avoid radical changes then they will not upset enough people to get voted out of office.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » October 18, 2009, 6:42 pm

Tyek wrote:Isn't that what I have been saying pre and post election?

The only party the people in office seem to care about is the good ol boy network that keeps them in office. If they can help each other avoid radical changes then they will not upset enough people to get voted out of office.

Sure, but it's also what I've been saying, just from a position much to the left of your own

. I was, and remain, strongly pro-Obama because he was the best viable choice that we were offered, and I believe that we're better off with him and the Democrats running things that the alternative, even if only the benefits are only marginal. I never had any great optimism for sweeping change, because I recognize the impossibility of such change within the constraints of the corrupt failure engine that is our government. I was just hopeful for the small incremental changes that we can squeeze out of the shitty system. That and being happy not to have an antagonistic mental midget and his evil puppet master at the helm.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » October 19, 2009, 1:16 am

we need more taxes! also Obama's budget actually includes the War on Terrorism, unlike all of Bush's. I'm not sure how much that effects that graph, just stating that the difference in the two's spending is greatly exaggerated in that graphic.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 4, 2009, 9:48 pm

Worst president ever!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/11/04/d ... index.html

(CNN) -- The president didn't watch the election returns Tuesday night, according to his press secretary, Robert Gibbs. He watched his beloved Chicago Bulls instead.

At least in the NBA, his hometown basketball team won -- by two points over the Bucks. If he'd watched the election returns, he would have seen that his team got clobbered.

He also would have realized a lot of angry voters are out there who aren't very satisfied with the direction of the country. In a word, Tuesday's election was anti-incumbent. The status quo isn't good enough.

Obama's too busy playing and watching hoops. Does this guy ever work? Shame it's after the fact that people realize he's nothing special. At least McCain has years of experience in politics and would have got some shit done. Obama's just a partying president. Lets go have another beer summit or head over to Europe with that Oprah lady. Jesus.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 18, 2009, 3:05 pm

Great job Obama!

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BG0NO20091217

Obama's ratings sink on economy, healthcare

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - High unemployment and a fractious debate over healthcare have combined to push down President Barack Obama's job approval ratings and highlight the potential for political dangers ahead.

Obama, experiencing his first holiday season in the White House, finds himself at odds with some in the left wing of his own Democratic Party and losing the support of independent voters who were key to his 2008 election victory.

Public opinion polls show Obama's approval rating hovering at 50 percent or lower, 11 months after he took office with a high of 69 percent approval. Majorities disapprove of his handling of the U.S. economy and healthcare.

The president and his White House team, battle-hardened from an election campaign in which they were initially dismissed by better-known challengers, are shrugging off the polls and taking the long view.

"It was inevitable," Obama told interviewer Oprah Winfrey. "We have 10 percent unemployment. I told (my wife) Michelle when we got here that in six months my poll numbers will start crashing, so we can't play to the polls. I'm concerned with where we'll be in two to three years."

Obama gave himself a "B-plus" grade, just shy of an excellent "A" in the U.S. education system, for his work staving off an even worse economic crisis, putting U.S. troops on a path out of Iraq and improving the U.S. image abroad.

'WORK IN PROGRESS'

Political analysts say Obama deserves credit for his steps helping to prevent the possibility of another Depression but that other challenges remain.

The president is immersed, for example, in the prolonged debate over revamping the U.S. healthcare system, engaged in efforts to reach a climate-change agreement in Copenhagen and seeking new spending measures aimed at creating jobs.

"It's still a work in progress, and probably the best grade (for Obama) would be 'incomplete,'" said Democratic strategist Doug Schoen, who worked in the Clinton White House.

Under pressure to create jobs, Obama struck a populist tone urging executives at leading banks this week to increase lending to small businesses, telling CBS's "60 Minutes" show that he did not run for president to help "fat cat bankers."

While job losses appear to have bottomed out, the country still is mired in a 10 percent unemployment rate that experts believe will remain high for months.

All this comes as Democrats gird to defend their majorities in the House of Representatives and the Senate in elections next November. Republicans sense they may have an opportunity to make a comeback after devastating losses in 2006 and 2008.

"Frankly, he's in the position that most presidents find themselves in when the economy goes south -- they get blamed for it," said Andy Smith, a political science professor at the University of New Hampshire.

"Until the economy turns around, his job-approval ratings are going to be hovering in the areas where they are now, or perhaps sink a little bit lower," he said.

KILL THE BILL

Obama has spent most of the year working on a healthcare overhaul and trying to thread a needle between various conflicting factions among Democrats in Congress.

In recent days, the left has rebelled against a Senate compromise that jettisons many of the provisions liberals have demanded, first a new government-run health insurance program and then a proposal to allow people ages 55 to 64 to buy into the Medicare government insurance plan for the elderly and disabled. Americans become eligible for Medicare at age 65.

Former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, a liberal and a medical doctor, said it would be better to "kill the Senate bill" as it stands because, as he told Vermont Public Radio, "This is essentially the collapse of healthcare reform in the United States Senate."

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » December 18, 2009, 8:58 pm

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 18, 2009, 11:19 pm

Sirton wrote:http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » December 19, 2009, 3:52 am

Fox news loves Rasumussen too! I know that's not the original data, but its funny as hell to point out what flies as usable data on Fox News.

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » December 28, 2009, 9:52 pm

Rasmussen has been proven to be the most accurate polling source since 2000. Much more accurate than gallup or Zogby. They have been pretty much spot on the past 3 presidentail elections and dead on even in the state polls. Why dont you research on how accurate they have been compared to the others...look at real clear politics then look at each pollster they use then compare the data to the actual vote, and you will see rasmussen is the most accurate.

" In 2008, Obama won 53%-46% and our final poll showed Obama winning 52% to 46%. While we were pleased with the final result, Rasmussen Reports was especially pleased with the stability of our results. On every single day for the last six weeks of the campaign, our daily tracking showed Obama with a stable and solid lead attracting more than 50% of the vote.

In 2004 George W. Bush received 50.7% of the vote while John Kerry earned 48.3%. Rasmussen Reports was the only firm to project both candidates’ totals within half a percentage point by projecting that Bush would win 50.2% to 48.5%.

Daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 500 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The margin of sampling error—for the full sample of 1,500 Likely Voters--is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Results are also compiled on a full-week basis "

Gonzoie - Luclin · Post by **Gonzoie - Luclin** » December 28, 2009, 11:09 pm

If you are referring to me, I wasn't taking a shot at Rasmussen. I was showing how Fox doctored the data they got off Rasmussen and used it to make their point on air. I'm sure Rasmussen wouldn't put out a poll with a total of 120%.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » December 31, 2009, 1:01 am

In the run up to Obama getting elected the Rasmussen reports were really fantastic.

Obama's still a useless half assed cunt all the same though.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » December 31, 2009, 5:15 am

I think Obama has done incredibly well for his first year. When the far-right hates him and the far-left hates him, you know he's doing something right.

miir · Post by **miir** » December 31, 2009, 9:42 am

Gonzoie - Luclin wrote:If you are referring to me, I wasn't taking a shot at Rasmussen. I was showing how Fox doctored the data they got off Rasmussen and used it to make their point on air. I'm sure Rasmussen wouldn't put out a poll with a total of 120%.

Just a FYI, Sirton is a complete idiot.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't even know how to read.

Avestan · Post by **Avestan** » December 31, 2009, 3:28 pm

Keverian FireCry wrote:I think Obama has done incredibly well for his first year. When the far-right hates him and the far-left hates him, you know he's doing something right.

What about when us independants think the only thing he has done is likely to bankrupt us over the next 25 years? We are handing economic supremacy to China on a silver platter every single freaking day.