The lastest assclownery from D.C.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 22, 2003, 2:04 pm

Lalanae wrote: if you refer to them collectively as ragheads.

I referred to a terrorist as a raghead.

Lalanae wrote:So yes, you are racist and you are ignorant.

You've no right to make that claim, stfu.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 22, 2003, 2:08 pm

Oh I guess I'm just sensitive. I guess the killings of innocent Middle Easteners after 9/11 wasn't really done by racist morons. I guess the stories I've heard about the way Middle Easteners are still treated in this country are not true. I guess they are just being sensitive too. Well lets all stop being sensitive and just go around calling brown people chinks and ragheads and niggers, and make them feel threatened in our grand old U.S. of A. cause only whitey really belongs here. Maybe they will all go home so we can stop feeling threatened when we see them prosper.

Or, you two could sit down and question WHY you choose to be hateful towards a particular race. Its easy to just call me sensitive when you are the ones with the flawed logic.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 22, 2003, 2:11 pm

Lalanae wrote:Or, you two could sit down and question WHY you choose to be hateful towards a particular race. Its easy to just call me sensitive when you are the ones with the flawed logic.

Who's hateful? I come to spread love not hate... those commercials are hateful.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 22, 2003, 2:13 pm

Fash wrote:
Lalanae wrote: if you refer to them collectively as ragheads.
I referred to a terrorist as a raghead.

Nice try, but you said "If a raghead owns a music store, buying a new cd is all of a sudden supporting terrorism." You did not specify terrorist, and it would have been nonsensical to say that in the context you used. It would say:

If a terrorist owns a music store, buying a new cd is all of a sudden supporting terrorism.

Now does that make any sense? Your implication was clear. Nice try on the old backpedal.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 22, 2003, 2:15 pm

I'm not hateful either. hehe

I love life

I just despise your hippee non-sense.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 22, 2003, 2:15 pm

Lalanae wrote:You did not specify terrorist, and it would have been nonsensical to say that in the context you used.

Thanks for mentioning context because if buying the cd was supporting terrorism it's implied the owner is a terrorist.

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 2:17 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:People on here are so hypocritical. I hear redneck thrown around all the time, but no one has said shit. Now all of the sudden we are all defenders of racials slurs over rag-heads? Dot-heads? 7-11 owners?

Is a 'redneck' a race?
Most rednecks are white but you wouldn't refer to a white kid wearing a cardigan, loafers and dockers as a redneck.

So tell me, what is a 'rag head'?
Is that a generic term for anyone that is 'arab'?

Or are you referring to the 20 million Sikhs around the world who are required by their religion to cover thier head with a turban?

Or perhaps you are referring to the hundreds of millions of muslims who wear turbans?

You know, the majority Iraqis are not ragheads.

Afghanis aren't ragheads either. Their headwear of choice is more of a hat, than a turban.

And I doubt the good ole USA has to worry about any terrorist attacks from the Krishna and dot heads.

Maybe they will launch some Buddha bombs.

You are so fucking ignorant, it's scary.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » January 22, 2003, 2:18 pm

Lalanae wrote:I never miss a racial slur. Its too disgustingly ignorant for me to not notice. Pisses me the hell off more than anything too.

Oh, but I forget, we are all white

you forgot impotent

Republican males on this board.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 22, 2003, 2:19 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I'm not hateful either. hehe

I love life I just despise your hippee non-sense.

logic = hippee non-sense?

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 2:19 pm

Thanks for mentioning context because if buying the cd was supporting terrorism it's implied the owner is a terrorist.

You implied that terrorists are 'ragheads'.

Bojangels · Post by **Bojangels** » January 22, 2003, 2:20 pm

miir wrote:Is a 'redneck' a race?

I called a guy a redneck and he petitioned me, GM put a warning on my account for making racist insults.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » January 22, 2003, 2:20 pm

you aren't impotent in my next story voro

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » January 22, 2003, 2:20 pm

the check is in the MALE!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 22, 2003, 2:23 pm

miir wrote:You implied that terrorists are 'ragheads'.

Yes, evil pieces of shit, Terrorists who you will not defend.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 22, 2003, 2:23 pm

Lalanae wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I'm not hateful either. hehe

I love life I just despise your hippee non-sense.
logic = hippee non-sense?

Your logic indeed.

Miir....don't over analyze what a rag-head is please. When a person hears it 95% understand. It's a slang term used in generalizing a group of people. This also goes with what I said about red-necks. I was discussing how slang is used to discribe a group of people. When you over analyze and tear it all apart it loses the very simple point I was making. Substance over symbolism.

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 2:28 pm

Miir....don't over analyze what a rag-head is please. When a person hears it 95% understand. It's a slang term used in generalizing a group of people.

No it's not.
It's 100% ignorance because you don't even know the difference btween a Sikh a Muslim or a Buddhist. In the original context of this thread, Fash equated 'raghead' with terrorist.
That's not slang, that's ignorant racism.

The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

Based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

It's even more ironic that your fuckwits don't even know what religion or race these people are.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 22, 2003, 2:32 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Lalanae wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I'm not hateful either. hehe

I love life I just despise your hippee non-sense.
logic = hippee non-sense?
Your logic indeed.

Miir....don't over analyze what a rag-head is please. When a person hears it 95% understand. It's a slang term used in generalizing a group of people. This also goes with what I said about red-necks. I was discussing how slang is used to discribe a group of people. When you over analyze and tear it all apart it loses the very simple point I was making. Substance over symbolism.

My logic is I don't make generalizations of people because of their race, especially not using derogatory language. You don't want Miir to analyze it because to do so would mean for you to ask yourself what your motivation for using racial slurs is? I know its hard but eventually you need to deal with what drives you to use hateful expressions. Sticking your head in the sand and telling yoruself that they are not hateful expressions only allows you to avoid why you do what you do.

The enlightened mind is not afraid to question what makes them think they way they do, what motivates them to act in a certain way. "Substance over symbolism" is a stupid motto. Symbols are a reflection of substance and substance manifests itself in symbols. The interplay between the two is probably too difficult for you to understand, so keep your little motto if it makes you feel justified in making racial slurs. It still doesn't explain WHY you do.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » January 22, 2003, 2:33 pm

Don't forget those Blonds. Those damn dirty Blonds!

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 2:34 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:Don't forget those Blonds. Those damn dirty Blonds!

Yeah fuck those blondes!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 22, 2003, 2:36 pm

It's 100% ignorance because you don't even know the difference btween a Sikh a Muslim or a Buddhist.

You don't have a fucking clue what I do or don't know,.... umm.. You dont know the difference between a... peacock and a... pedestrian! You're talking nonsense.

Commercials trying to shame people who don't deserve it are wrong. Vault trolls trying to shame innocent people for typing out a racial slur to a bunch of board trolls are wrong.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 22, 2003, 2:42 pm

My logic is I don't make generalizations of people because of their race, especially not using derogatory language. You don't want Miir to analyze it because to do so would mean for you to ask yourself what your motivation for using racial slurs is? I know its hard but eventually you need to deal with what drives you to use hateful expressions. Sticking your head in the sand and telling yoruself that they are not hateful expressions only allows you to avoid why you do what you do.

You didn't even ask what the motivation for using the slur is, instead you just made a generalization that people are racist, people are ignorant. Shut your trap when you have nothing to speak of on the issue and just want to get your rocks off attacking someone.

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 2:45 pm

You don't have a fucking clue what I do or don't know

By using the term 'raghead' and then equating that with terrorism makes it pretty easy to deduce that you are completely ignorant of the group of people that you are applying that term to.

Could you visually tell the difference between an Indian and an Iraqi?
What about the difference between an Isreali and Palastinian weaing the same uniform?
Can you tell the difference between a Muslim extremist and a Buddhist?
What about a Christian Pakistani and a Muslim Pakistani?

You know, for a few of those, I couldn't tell the difference.
That's why I don't use racist terms such as 'raghead' or 'cameljockey'.

If you took some time and actually learned about that area of the world, you might understand why using such generalizations are frowned upon.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 22, 2003, 2:48 pm

You have no problem calling people completely ignorant or racist.

I would have more problem getting those words to come out, you horrible person you.

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 2:49 pm

Fash wrote:You have no problem calling people completely ignorant or racist.

I would have more problem getting those words to come out, you horrible person you.

Now this thread is officially "retard-ready"

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 22, 2003, 2:54 pm

LOL

It is SOOOOOOOOO expected on this board for people, when they are lsoing the obvious fight, to turn it around. I am so horrible for calling an ignorant fucktard on the carpet for making a racial slur.

boohoo

Post by **Sylvus** » January 22, 2003, 2:57 pm

How dare you insult all ignorant fucktards so. It's just like a woman to make generalizations...

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » January 22, 2003, 2:59 pm

*Edit - deleted as it's pointless

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 22, 2003, 2:59 pm

Is it time to start talking about pie yet?

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » January 22, 2003, 2:59 pm

Miir, until your every post does not contain anti-American comments, you can shut the absolute fuck up about anything to deal with race, creed, or religion. You are one of the most intolerant fucktards to ever disgrace this board and have zero credibility to discuss someone else's bigoted remarks.

Thank you for your support and please die.

Masekle · Post by **Masekle** » January 22, 2003, 3:05 pm

Forthe wrote:
Masekle wrote:pilsbury wrote .........And if you think a lincoln navigator or some other luxury SUV will ever make it to a real off-road advanture that van can't handle...your crazy.

Have you ever seen a mini van on the the dunes? its an offroad advanture with the possibility of scratches and dents, slightly less that a mountain trek. I think the navigator will go a little further than a vanagon
Reading comprehension > you

He wasn't saying that the Navigator COULDN'T do better offroad than a van. His point is it WON'T.

How often do you think luxury SUV owners take those vehicles offroad.

I have seen everything from a bycicle to a mercedes on the dunes hell I have even seen a couch. About reading comprehension Thats not even true. Yes I have seen many a navigator on the dunes. If you can actually afford an overpriced SuV, then you can afford to break it. Hell one trip over to the Oregon coast. I was awakened to the Roar of a frickin BUS heading accross the dunes. had to get a D9 cat to pull it out once it stopped. But still nothing like watching some drunken idiot THRASHING a 250,000 dollar toy

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 22, 2003, 3:17 pm

Voronwë wrote:the check is in the MALE!

I thought the point was that you were in the male.

The check could be in the mail though.

Krindol · Post by **Krindol** » January 22, 2003, 3:27 pm

miir wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:People on here are so hypocritical. I hear redneck thrown around all the time, but no one has said shit. Now all of the sudden we are all defenders of racials slurs over rag-heads? Dot-heads? 7-11 owners?
Is a 'redneck' a race?
Most rednecks are white but you wouldn't refer to a white kid wearing a cardigan, loafers and dockers as a redneck.

If you refer to anyone as a redneck, you are in fact using a racial slur.

Generally speaking, it is usually used to stereotype anyone who is white and from the south.

That being said, it doesn't matter if the kid is wearing a cardigan, or burning a cross. If you label anyone a redneck, you are lumping them all into the same group.

I personally prefer "Caucasian Trash" to redneck. Redneck is so un PC. =P

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » January 22, 2003, 3:29 pm

Kylere wrote:
Voronwë wrote:the check is in the MALE!
I thought the point was that you were in the male.

The check could be in the mail though.

Did you really mean "check" or did you mean "Czech"?

Caution if you meant "Czech" that could be generalization that all Czech's play "pitcher".

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 22, 2003, 3:30 pm

Okay racial remarks, the problem here is that we do not have a really good white people racial slur. The term honky has been used but it lacks any value anymore, not to mention it was originally used for hungarians, and not all white people. Cracker is invalidated by the fact that all white people do not easily fall under the definition, nor are they all easily called rednecks.

Soooo, cracker, honky and redneck are all out. However we do have the classic "Paleface" which implies a not too bright, thieving, lying, treaty breaking scumbag who would murder women and children, and give disease ridden blankets out in an effort to commit genocide. This definition fits most white people and thus is probably the best slur for white people. It fits well with the term two-faced (and since white people generally maintain two faces about racial issues is applicable).

Therefore white people are twofaced palefaces who can all blow me.

That feels comfortably useful, but to really insult a word has to end with a hard consonant like K, D, N, R, P, etc. So I nominate Blizzard.

Blizzard allows us phrases like, Blizzard Bitch, Blizzard Boy, Bunch of lazy Blizzards, You dumb Blizzard motherfuckers, Suck me you dumb blizzard bitch.

Like blizzards, white people are well, white, cold, and detached, so I love it. Make sure you all call the nearest dumbass blizzard, a blizzard today.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » January 22, 2003, 3:38 pm

But blizzard reminds me of the Dairy Queen tasty treat!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » January 22, 2003, 3:40 pm

yeah what about a Snickers blizzard? they are brown. butterfinger blizzards

ORIO BLIZZARDS!

What do you say to these allegations sir?!

Masekle · Post by **Masekle** » January 22, 2003, 3:41 pm

Lalanae wrote:But blizzard reminds me of the Dairy Queen tasty treat!

hmm.. Jump from the cocksock to this.... Are we felling Chipper today?

Krindol · Post by **Krindol** » January 22, 2003, 3:42 pm

Fuck! My DQ blizzard had freckles!

Burke · Post by **Burke** » January 22, 2003, 3:48 pm

Funny how most of those racial slurs were mispelled too.

Wop (not Wap) stands for With Out Papers. It refers to the great influx of immigrants in the early 20th century who showed up at Ellis Island with out papers. A large number of these immigrants were from Italy.

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 3:58 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Miir, until your every post does not contain anti-American comments, you can shut the absolute fuck up about anything to deal with race, creed, or religion. You are one of the most intolerant fucktards to ever disgrace this board and have zero credibility to discuss someone else's bigoted remarks.

Equating political opinion with bigotry and racism is afully ignorant.

I guess you totally buy into Bush's motto 'If you're not with us, you're against us'.
Doesn't surpise me in the least.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » January 22, 2003, 4:01 pm

Redneck is absolutely not a racial slur, and saying otherwise is just fucking stupid. It's a group classification, no different than calling someone a goth or a punk or a hippie.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » January 22, 2003, 4:03 pm

I'd like to point out that while I was in Hawaii I was called a Howlie. While in Asia I was called a Round Eye. Here in the Wisconsin northwoods they usually call us Hoss, especially if you just hit Black Jack. At work they either call me Sir, or Dumbass depending on the person.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 22, 2003, 4:06 pm

Sueven wrote:Redneck is absolutely not a racial slur, and saying otherwise is just fucking stupid. It's a group classification, no different than calling someone a goth or a punk or a hippie.

Read the whole thread, not just bits and pieces. /sigh

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » January 22, 2003, 4:07 pm

Burke wrote:Wop (not Wap) stands for With Out Papers.

Some of my ancestors swam ashore after being refused entry, my grandfather seemed fairly proud of it

Sueven wrote:Redneck is absolutely not a racial slur, and saying otherwise is just fucking stupid. It's a group classification.

You could say that about any other name for a race/class/etc.. Redneck = white trash everywhere I've lived, and is about as flattering as being called any other racial slur.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 22, 2003, 4:11 pm

Miir's sig : The original Negrodite Paladin

I concede and bow to your non-ignorant level of superior thought.

We all live in glass houses. Once we all realize that, people will stop being so damn sensitive and stop expecting this un-reachable utopian idea that infects so many liberal minds.

Krindol · Post by **Krindol** » January 22, 2003, 4:25 pm

Sueven wrote:Redneck is absolutely not a racial slur, and saying otherwise is just fucking stupid. It's a group classification, no different than calling someone a goth or a punk or a hippie.

I agree with that, but it really just depends on how the person you call a redneck takes it.

some black people refer to themselves or friends as "nigga" as a group classification, but that doesn't mean it is not a racial slur.

miir · Post by **miir** » January 22, 2003, 4:31 pm

Miir's sig : The original Negrodite Paladin

I concede and bow to your non-ignorant level of superior thought.

Negro : relating to or characteristic of or being a member of the traditional racial division of mankind having brown to black pigmentation and tightly curled hair

Erudite : Characterized by erudition; learned

So in making a 'new' word out of the two, I am saying my character is the original brown skinned, erudite Paladin. I refer to him as the 'original' because he was the first level 50 (pre Kunark) Erudite Paladin on Veeshan.

You can try to find something derrogatory in that if you like, but you'll just make yourself look silly.

Negro has never been a considered a racist or derrogatory word. It's about as offensive as calling a white person a caucasian.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 22, 2003, 4:36 pm

Hate to break it to you Miir, but you are completely wrong. It is taken as a slur.

Hell a few years back a guy somewhere in DC was forced to resign after using the term niggardly in reference to a budgetary decision, and the words have nothing in common, not even minutely so.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » January 22, 2003, 4:37 pm

Go to Mississippi and tell a black person he's a negro then come back here and tell me how many stitches you have in your head.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » January 22, 2003, 4:37 pm

Vetiria wrote:Go to Mississippi and tell a black person he's a negro then come back here and tell me how many stitches you have in your head.

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