Are we closing in on a new Civil War?

[Syenye]

Thanks, spang. My google powers are weak.

[Aslanna]

I'm just the messenger.

You're lucky Obama is taking away all our assault rifles or you'd have been shot.

[Aardor]

Wouldn't it be reaffirming? IIRC, The Constitution gives all powers to the individual States that are not otherwise granted to the federal government. It's been awhile since AP Government, though.

I'm just the messenger.

General question, wasn't specifically directed at you. I just feel like this bill did absolutely nothing that wasn't already put in place by the Constitution, unless I am wrong about the powers being granted to the States.

[Aardor]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

I am wrong, it's the 10th amendment in the Bill of Rights, but as far as I can tell, Oklahoma's Bill did nothing but reaffirm this amendment.

[Gzette]

In case anyone is confused, they only passed a resolution. It's basically a document with no legal repercussions. They could pass a resolution to make murder legal, and it would do nothing.

so yeah, still no civil war.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Update: Oklahoma's House passed 'secession" bill by an 83-13 vote this week. Fun times ahead!

I thought it was a sovereignty bill, not a secession bill. Do you have a link to the text?

Also, nobody cares about Oklahoma.

which is why I used "secession" in quotes

a cease and desist order from the bill!

The language of HJR 1003 further serves notice to the federal government "to cease and desist, effectively immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers."

Oklahoma had one of the milder resolutions. New Hampshire actually has HCR-6 that gives the instances they will qualify as a right to secede. I believe Missouri did as well but I am not wanting to look up any more crap today.

A resolution originating in the New Hampshire state house is receiving momentum in New Hampshire. If passed into law, it would return power back to New Hampshire like the founding fathers intended. It provides six reasons that justifies New Hampshire's secession from the federal government. I will list the six, and then provide the link if you wish to read the entire resolution. Let's hope this legislation spreads from New Hampshire into the other 49 and sends Congress a clear message. We will not allow our natural rights to be walked on.

I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition.

The representatives in New Hampshire who have written this resolution understand the limits of the federal government as Jefferson intended. This will block nationalized health care and other socialization in New Hampshire. The debate for the resolution begins on February 5th.