Let The Right One In (2008)

Taison Earbiter · Post by **Taison Earbiter** » November 10, 2008, 7:43 pm

So I didn't notice any other thread going about this.

It was ultra-hyped as being one of the best genre films in years, and it's at 96% on Rotten Tomatoes. I was curious if anyone has seen it and if what they thought. I'm always interested in checking out non-American films as I tend to get bored with most of what comes out of the US.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lat_den_ratte_komma_in/

miir · Post by **miir** » November 10, 2008, 8:10 pm

being one of the best genre films

What is a genre film?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » November 10, 2008, 8:31 pm

miir wrote:
being one of the best genre films
What is a genre film?

It is another way to refer to a B Movie

Taison Earbiter · Post by **Taison Earbiter** » November 10, 2008, 9:26 pm

Boogahz wrote:
miir wrote:
being one of the best genre films
What is a genre film?
It is another way to refer to a B Movie

It's a Swedish horror film. Though I think it's not exactly what you're thinking of either. If you haven't heard of it, then check out the trailer...it'll give you a better sense of what the film is like.

Can check out the trailer on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICp4g9p_rgo (be sure and click watch in high quality).

If you just want to read a description:

"A fragile, anxious boy, 12-year-old Oskar is regularly bullied by his stronger classmates but never strikes back. The lonely boys wish for a friend seems to comes true when he meets Eli, also 12, who moves in next door to him. But Elis arrival coincides with a series of gruesome deaths and attacks. Though Oskar realizes that she's a vampire, his friendship with her is stronger than his fear... Swedish filmmaker Tomas Alfredson weaves friendship, rejection and loyalty into a disturbing, darkly atmospheric, yet unexpectedly tender tableau of adolescence. The feature is based on the best-selling novel by John Ajvide Lindqvist, which the U.K. press qualified as "reminiscent of Stephen King at his best." "

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 11, 2008, 2:17 am

I prefer genre over horror movies. Always preferred genre music over country as well.
-Bruce Genre (Gold Medal Winner of the 1972 Decathlon)

Taison Earbiter · Post by **Taison Earbiter** » November 11, 2008, 3:12 am

"Defining genre represents a much more complicated idea than it might seem on the surface. The French definition of genre is simply “kind” or “sort”, while the Latin approximation places it around the neighborhood of “class”. Initially, the formal Greek classical academic conception of genre as applied in a creative sense outlined the three segments, or genres, of literature as prose, poetry, and drama.

The more familiar modern interpretation of genre really begins at the subgenre level. When you think of “genre”, you’re more likely to think “comedy”, “action”, and so on. Still beyond that, within certain realms of academia and the critical community, “genre” takes on yet another connotation. That would be the notion that “genre” films are those forms that invite elements of the fantastic that are separated from conventional drama. Therefore, in some of those formal channels, the use of the phrase “genre film” would indicate science fiction, fantasy or even horror. "

http://www.newsarama.com/film/080605-ge ... de-30.html

Next time I'll just call it a horror movie and keep things simple though. =p

miir · Post by **miir** » November 11, 2008, 11:23 am

I guess the term confuses me because it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual meaning of the word 'genre'.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » November 11, 2008, 12:17 pm

miir wrote:I guess the term confuses me because it has absolutely nothing to do with the actual meaning of the word 'genre'.

That's okay, we understand your difficulty with how words can have multiple meanings in English

I have heard Genre films being tied to B-Movies for at least a couple decades now. Basically, you pick a category, or genre, (Vampire, Cowboy, Aliens, etc.) and that is the only thing you focus on. You accept that your film will not be a blockbuster, and you make the film for fans of, wait for it, the genre!

I found something that might explain it a bit better than I did:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genre_film

In its current usage, the term has two primary and somewhat contradictory connotations: it may signal an opinion that a certain movie is (a) a genre film with minimal artistic ambitions or (b) a lively, energetic film uninhibited by the constraints imposed on more expensive projects and unburdened by the conventions of putatively "serious" independent film. The term is also now used loosely to refer to some higher budgeted, mainstream films with exploitation-style content, usually in genres traditionally associated with the B movie.

miir · Post by **miir** » November 11, 2008, 12:23 pm

OK that makes sense.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 11, 2008, 2:12 pm

In film classes in college, I always understood genre films to be just similar groupings....

Buddy Flick -- Thelma & Louise
Hack und Slash horror -- F13
Space Horror -- Alien, Event Horizon, etc
Chick Flick -- Titanic, Speed, Saw, etc

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » November 11, 2008, 6:31 pm

I had planned to see this earlier this year on a night film festival in copenhagen, but didnt have time

. Its still on my "to watch list", and was long before you US guys got to hear about it

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » March 26, 2009, 5:34 pm

I've been wanting to see this movie for a while but I just heard about this. For anyone that's interested in picking this up on dvd/blu ray you may want to wait a bit.

This was posted on digital bits from Magnolia the people that released the dvd/br.

"We've been made aware that there are several fans that don't like the version of the subtitles on the DVD/BR. We had an alternate translation that we went with. Obviously a lot of fans thought we should have stuck with the original theatrical version. We are listening to the fans feedback, and going forward we will be manufacturing the discs with the subtitles from the theatrical version." ........

......There are no exchanges. We are going to make an alternate version available however. For those that wish to purchase a version with the theatrical subtitles, it will be called out in the tech specs box at the back/bottom of the package where it will list SUBTITLES: ENGLISH (Theatrical), SPANISH.

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » March 26, 2009, 6:05 pm

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... 11&t=23650 - should I merge?

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » March 27, 2009, 11:45 am

It was a good book.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » April 20, 2009, 4:19 pm

I read a critique of Twilight recently and the critic referenced this movie, saying if you wanted to see a GOOD vampire "romance" to see it instead. Netflix recently made this available for Instant Viewing and I watched it last night.

I loved it...

The actress who plays the vampire chick is amazing and creepy. For a child to believeably play a character that is much older (you never find out how old, but there are clues that she is VERY old) is difficult enough, but the nuances she brought to her performance floored me.

The only thing I didn't like were some CGI cats later in the film, that I thought were depicted not very realistically.

Highly recommend it!

Edit: Hrm, according to IMDB "She's been 12 for over 200 years..." so maybe I missed something. Anyway! She's old!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » April 20, 2009, 9:51 pm

Book 4tw Lala!

I look forward to at some point watching this movie.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » April 29, 2009, 6:07 pm

I really enjoyed this. Top notch movie. As mentioned, it's very sweet and sad and kind of moving, and it also has gorgeous cinematography in several shots.

I didn't mind the cats.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » April 29, 2009, 7:00 pm

I went ahead and picked up the poorly subtitled version because I didn't want to wait for the corrected version to hit the shelves. Also, this version has more of a collector's status!

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » April 29, 2009, 8:24 pm

I saw the dubbed version. The dubbing was terrible as always. Try to find subtitles, any subtitles.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 5, 2009, 1:13 am

Let the Right One In is my kind of movie. If I had to sum the entire movie up into one word, it would be "subtle". By the end, there were several things left open to interpretation. I love movies like that. I hate everything spoon fed to me. I find it insulting. I would much rather have a movie that makes me think back to what I saw and wonder alound in a conversation and listen to what everyone else thought about any loose ends a film provides. I found the entire movie a refreshing change of pace.

I could've watched it with the volume turned off, and within momments I could've told you it was not an American movie based on how it was filmed. Another thing that is different about this movie is that is has little to no soundtrack at all. The music does not increase in tone or pace along with what is happening on the screen. There are no cheap "jump out and scare you momments" where the ominous quiet is shattered by a loud violin screech and sudden movement. The amount of violence and gore is there to serve a purpose, and it does it very well. The sheer amount of framing shots and complete lack of tracking shots is very different than the majority of what Hollywood pumps out. It seems that this entire movie was shot with a stationary camera, and it gave the whole movie a different feel. Another often used shot in this movie was alternating the focus between the foreground and background. I also think that the sparse use of special effects made them much more effective when they were used.

About the movie itself:

[Show]: One of the loose ends was the collection of rings that Eli had. Were these just pulled from victims, or were these rings from ex-loves from her long life? There were only about 6-8 there, and they all looked old and were men's rings. (My wife was the one that pointed that out.) She also thought that Oskar's father might be either gay or an alcholic based on the one scene with the friend coming over for a drink and Oskar hitch hiking home to see Eli.

The scene with Eli in the basement when it showed her reflective eyes in the dark was flipping great. It was so quick and subtle, if you blinked you were sure to miss it.

My wife and I think that the first guy that was harvesting blood for Eli was her lover or whatever you want to call it. It went unspoken, but can be assumed. He was actually showing signs of jealousy towards Oskar because he knew she liked him. Oskar is simply his replacement, and in theory, Oskar will also be replaced which makes the movie kind of sad.

It was also kind of creepy when Eli got naked and slipped into bed with Oskar. I mean, knowing she was god knows how old and was running her fingers all over him made me uneasy watching it. Btw, what was up with her weird vagina? It had a scar or stitches just within the upper pubic area. It was not meant to titilate, but to show you her unusual feature. They showed this for a reason, but I'm unsure why. Perhaps that is detailed in the book?

When the previous man was in the hospital and Eli came to visit him, he was unable to invite her in due to his injuries (he points to his throat to let her know this). He instead opens the window and leans outside for her to finish him off. That was a great scene.

Let's not forget the pool scene. Best. Ending. Ever.

However, my favorite thing about this movie is how it took the popular modern image of vampires as sexy, rich, powerful, modern, suave, elite, ect., and flushed it down the toilet. It fucking sucks to be a vampire. There is nothing beautiful or fantastic about it. It is a lonely, pitiful, neverending cycle of death, violence, and seclusion. This movie provides a view of the vampire myth with a whole new perspective, and it was wonderfully realized.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 6, 2009, 2:18 pm

[Show]: Fairweather Pure wrote:Btw, what was up with her weird vagina? It had a scar or stitches just within the upper pubic area. It was not meant to titilate, but to show you her unusual feature. They showed this for a reason, but I'm unsure why. Perhaps that is detailed in the book?
Not to sound cliche', but it's because Eli was a dude. He had his manhood cut off by the vampire that made him. It is indeed detailed in the book.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 6, 2009, 2:26 pm

Thanks Ashur! I really appreciate the heads up on that.

Btw, I hope everyone is ready for an American remake because it's in the works even as I type. Bullshit, I know! They're also doing a remake of The Orphanage too, which was fantastic and only a couple of years old. If anyone has yet to see that, I highly recommend it.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 6, 2009, 2:31 pm

Weak - I *hate* American remakes...

"That was a GREAT FILM! Now all it needs is the actors to speak English, some more action, oh, and a happy ending!"

Pyrhus · Post by **Pyrhus** » May 6, 2009, 4:30 pm

I enjoyed the movie, but I need to read the book to answer a few questions I was left with.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 6, 2009, 4:38 pm

It's a good book. Very Stephen King-ish (via Stockholm!).

Can I safely assume they skip the "piss-ball" in the movie? No, never mind. I'll go watch it.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 8, 2009, 1:07 pm

Btw, the reason I asked my question here was because my search in Google had the phrase "12 year old vagina" and I opted I had better not hit the enter key!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 8, 2009, 3:32 pm

rofl

yeah, that...

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 30, 2009, 1:54 pm

Director Matt Reeves ("Cloverfield") has revealed to The Los Angeles Times a few more details about the upcoming American remake of the highly acclaimed Swedish horror film "Let the Right One In".

Reeves tells the paper he's completed a second script draft for the project which moves the action to early 80's Colorado. Locations will soon be scouted to match the original's snow-drenched icy environment.

As previously reported, the film is officially being called "Let Me In" which is a closer English translation of the title of John Ajvide Lindqvist's original novel.

The 2008 original centered around Oscar, an overlooked and bullied young boy who finds love and revenge through Eli, a beautiful but peculiar girl who turns out to be a vampire.

Reeves also says there's no plans to increase the age of the lead stars in order to cash in on a "Twilight"-style human/vampire teen romance angle.

Jesus.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » June 30, 2009, 4:59 pm

The idea of this remake is RETARDED. The movie was JUST FUCKING RELEASED LAST YEAR. It is GOOD. Just read the fucking subtitles for the love of GOD.

[Show]: "The 2008 original centered around Oscar, an overlooked and bullied young boy who finds love and revenge through Eli, a beautiful but peculiar "girl" who turns out to be a boy, oh and a vampire."

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