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Supposed Templar Heirs Sue Vatican

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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=93613600
A group of people claiming to be the heirs of the legendary Knights Templar are suing Pope Benedict XVI, seeking more than $150 billion for assets seized by the Catholic Church seven centuries ago.

They also want to restore the order's good name. Founded in 1119, the Knights Templar was a secretive order of Christian warriors who protected pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem during the Crusades. They fell out of favor years later, and members were accused of denying Christ, worshipping the devil and practicing sodomy. Many Templars were tortured and burned at the stake.

In 1307, Pope Clement V accused the order of heresy and officially dissolved it.

Fiona Govan, who wrote about the lawsuit for London's Daily Telegraph, tells host Andrea Seabrook the order is believed to have gone underground and continued to practice, but that there is no firm, historical evidence to support it.

Last fall, the Vatican published secret documents about the trial of the Templars in a book called Processus Contra Templarios, Latin for "Trial Against the Templars." The volume included a parchment apparently showing that, contrary to historic belief, Clement had absolved the order of heresy.

Now, a group called the Association of the Sovereign Order of the Temple of Christ has filed suit in a Spanish court, asking for an apology from the pope and recognition that land and property worth about $150 billion today was seized from the Templars.

The Vatican will never reimburse the group, Govan says, because its members cannot prove that they are descendants of the Knights Templar.

She calls the claim "ludicrous" and says Spanish papers have suggested the issue is something for psychiatrists to decide rather than historians.
More fun times from Spain. What the hell is going on in that country and why hasn't Nick gotten up in their shit for the Fuckwittedness??

I also seem to remember that the Knights Templar received some of this cache as payment, but they also "liberated" a whole lot of it as well. I also would like to know how these people believe their relatives were Templars. I could tell you little about my family past 4 generations or so other then maybe an occupation and location, even that would be spotty.
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My ancestor translated the bible into English, (not sure about the sodomy), then was strangled and burned at the stake for it. I would like pain and suffering damages prs. Whom do I sue?
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This is interesting. Will be curious to see how it develops.

As to the family histories...maybe my family is a fluke. But my father's family has our lineage traced back to the Revolutionary War (and a generation or 2 before). My mother's family has that side traced back to 600-700 AD. That's literally family tree all the way up, with marriages, children, etc.

So it's not that hard. Birth and Death records were kept in pretty much any and all settlements as long as those people could write.
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I think you'd have to sue Marilyn Manson, or maybe Barney the Dinosaur. I'm not sure which would be considered more evil. I'm leaning towards Barney.
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I have a tree going back pre-revolutionary war on one side and all the way back to Chaucer and the 400's in England on the other. Guess it is not that much of a stretch.



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