Obama WILL be the next president

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » July 31, 2008, 3:42 pm

Nick wrote:
I seriously can't express to you how excited I am to watch Obama lose the election, and to come here and listen to the absolute outrage about what an injustice it is, and how the voting must have been rigged.
Well it usually is rigged. How short a memory do you have? It's not like there isn't evidence to prove it.

The point is, you fucks would never say it was rigged if it was the democrat that won. It's just so hard for you to believe that everyone isn't so enraged by the "injustice" and "lies" of the current administration as you are.

indeed.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 31, 2008, 3:46 pm

If McCain wins the election, I will quit posting on these forums.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 3:49 pm

If Obama wins, I will not be gloating over the McCain crowd. The reason for this is because I'm not 8yrs old.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 4:34 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:
Nick wrote:
I seriously can't express to you how excited I am to watch Obama lose the election, and to come here and listen to the absolute outrage about what an injustice it is, and how the voting must have been rigged.
Well it usually is rigged. How short a memory do you have? It's not like there isn't evidence to prove it.

The point is, you fucks would never say it was rigged if it was the democrat that won. .

Truer words.....

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 31, 2008, 4:39 pm

Duh?

No one complains when their team is winning.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 31, 2008, 4:41 pm

Well, whoever wins, I hope they don't continue to fucker things up. This nation needs some lovins'.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 4:46 pm

Spang wrote:Duh?

No one complains when their team is winning.

We wouldn't have though either. We don't live by the victim mentality mantra the Dems do.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 4:48 pm

I think either one will be better than Bush, but that is a given. It just feels like America is in a weird sort of funk that we cannot seem to shake off under Bush. We're like Rocky at his low point in the ring. After November, I would hope the funk is lifted and we can move forward under whoever wins and perhaps come out like Rocky in the final round.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 4:52 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:I think either one will be better than Bush, but that is a given. It just feels like America is in a weird sort of funk that we cannot seem to shake off under Bush. We're like Rocky at his low point in the ring. After November, I would hope the funk is lifted and we can move forward under whoever wins and perhaps come out like Rocky in the final round.

The only funk we are in is one of perception. It could be changed at any point and any time.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 31, 2008, 4:53 pm

Well, Rocky is a pretty good analogy. Also, being that Mr. Balboa is an Italian American living in the City of Brotherly Love... diversity. I like.

All we need her eis Meredith Burgess and we are set.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 4:54 pm

Even if it were perception, it takes something rather significant to alter the perception of an entire country. A good example would be, I don't know, a Presidential election?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 4:57 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Even if it were perception, it takes something rather significant to alter the perception of an entire country. A good example would be, I don't know, a Presidential election?

Only if the right guy wins. If McCain wins the Dems and the media will only press harder to keep this perception going for the election coming up in 4 years. Only during an Obama presidency will a more positive perception be part of the norm by the Dems and the media.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 31, 2008, 5:01 pm

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 5:05 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Only if the right guy wins. If McCain wins the Dems and the media will only press harder to keep this perception going for the election coming up in 4 years. Only during an Obama presidency will a more positive perception be part of the norm by the Dems and the media.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:We don't live by the victim mentality mantra the Dems do.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 31, 2008, 5:07 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Even if it were perception, it takes something rather significant to alter the perception of an entire country. A good example would be, I don't know, a Presidential election?

Yep.

If Mccain were to win, the perception would be four more years of the same ole' thing

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 31, 2008, 5:19 pm

That's my perception "same old shit". However, if McCain does win, I hope I am proved wrong--as long as the "new shit" isn't worse than "the old shit".

shit!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 5:22 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Only if the right guy wins. If McCain wins the Dems and the media will only press harder to keep this perception going for the election coming up in 4 years. Only during an Obama presidency will a more positive perception be part of the norm by the Dems and the media.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:We don't live by the victim mentality mantra the Dems do.

You're not clever and you haven't said anything. I'm telling you the way it is. Follow the way Republicans talk versus how Democrats talk. Dems always tell you how terrible things are and how held back you are and how only they can help you. Republicans focus on opportunity, capitalism, entrepeneurs, success. It's not a secret. Go do some research. Don't come back posting the exception to the rule either. If you really care to be informed then act like it.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 31, 2008, 5:28 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You're not clever and you haven't said anything. I'm telling you the way it is. Follow the way Republicans talk versus how Democrats talk. Dems always tell you how terrible things are and how held back you are and how only they can help you. Republicans focus on opportunity, capitalism, entrepeneurs, success. It's not a secret. Go do some research. Don't come back posting the exception to the rule either. If you really care to be informed then act like it.

Ironically, if you look at the campaigns so far, McCain has been exceedingly negative and Obama has been very positive.
I don't see Obama playing the victim at all. He's talking about change and being very optimistic.

Also, I've seen a lot of right wingers whining about the unfair news coverage and left wing media bias. Seems like republicans have no problems playing the victim.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 5:33 pm

miir wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You're not clever and you haven't said anything. I'm telling you the way it is. Follow the way Republicans talk versus how Democrats talk. Dems always tell you how terrible things are and how held back you are and how only they can help you. Republicans focus on opportunity, capitalism, entrepeneurs, success. It's not a secret. Go do some research. Don't come back posting the exception to the rule either. If you really care to be informed then act like it.
Ironically, if you look at the campaigns so far, McCain has been exceedingly negative and Obama has been very positive.
I don't see Obama playing the victim at all. He's talking about change and being very optimistic.

Also, I've seen a lot of right wingers whining about the unfair news coverage and left wing media bias. Seems like republicans have no problems playing the victim.

HAHA

Change denotes everything is wrong the way it is. You just helped me prove my point. Thanks.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 31, 2008, 5:36 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Change denotes everything is wrong the way it is. You just helped me prove my point. Thanks.

So you think everything is hunky-dory in the US right now?

Wow, you really are right-fucking-deluded.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 5:43 pm

"What they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills."

"So what they're saying is, 'Well, we know we're not very good but you can't risk electing Obama. You know, he's new, he doesn't look like the other presidents on the currency."

"'Well, you know, he's got a funny name, and he doesn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bills and the five dollar bills,' and they're going to send out nasty e -mails. And the latest one they got me in an ad with Paris Hilton. You know, never met the woman. But, you know, what they're going to try to argue is that somehow I'm too risky."

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 5:46 pm

miir wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Change denotes everything is wrong the way it is. You just helped me prove my point. Thanks.
So you think everything is hunky-dory in the US right now?

Wow, you really are right-fucking-deluded.

I think America is fanatastic. I think we continue to improve every day. I think America is an amazing country, doing amazing things for itself and the world at large. I think things like political correctness, socialism, and liberalism are diseases that threaten our great country and they need to be defeated at every turn.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 31, 2008, 5:51 pm

Well luckily the War on Terrorism takes much-needed funding from the War on Liberalism.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 31, 2008, 6:16 pm

Home truth time for funk re.rigging.

http://nightweed.com/printableusavotefacts.html

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » July 31, 2008, 6:45 pm

Nick wrote:Home truth time for funk re.rigging.

http://nightweed.com/printableusavotefacts.html

I got as far as seeing that the article you linked was posted by someone named "angrygirl" and I stopped. Sorry.

Mid, I don't know how you let that loose mouthed cock sucking faggot talk to you like he does on these boards and then turn around and raid with him in EQ.

Either someone is your friend or not, it's not cool for someone to say all sorts of fucked up shit about you on a forum to make himself feel cool or feel better about being fat, nerdy, middle aged and still spending all his time playing video games and "flaming" on message boards, or whatever other reasons he does it for, but then you play a game together and act all chummy?

It's ridiculous, and I really thought you had more self respect than that.

I know the first thing I am gonna do when my computers back up and I log into EQ2 again possibly this weekend is remove myself from that guild so I have no ties to the prick.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 6:53 pm

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » July 31, 2008, 6:53 pm

Funkmasterr wrote: I know the first thing I am gonna do when my computers back up and I log into EQ2 again possibly this weekend is remove myself from that guild so I have to ties to the prick.

So are you drunk, or just so angry you have lost all coherence? YOU NOT LIKE IT IF FUNK GET ANGRY!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » July 31, 2008, 6:56 pm

Zaelath wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote: I know the first thing I am gonna do when my computers back up and I log into EQ2 again possibly this weekend is remove myself from that guild so I have to ties to the prick.
So are you drunk, or just so angry you have lost all coherence? YOU NOT LIKE IT IF FUNK GET ANGRY!

If you think I'm angry now you have another thing coming. Bottom line is either someone respects you and treats you the way they should or they don't. I'm not mad, I just continue to see miir's smart mouth fucking comments and mid keeps playing a game with the dude, and I just don't understand it.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 31, 2008, 7:07 pm

Don't be so internet-angry!

miir · Post by **miir** » July 31, 2008, 7:12 pm

I hope he doesn't spit on me.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 31, 2008, 7:38 pm

Only if you are smartalleccy! .

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » July 31, 2008, 7:40 pm

miir wrote:I hope he doesn't spit on me.

Don't even have anything to say for yourself. So pathetic.

You wouldn't be worth the energy it would take me to spit on you, so no worries on your part.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 7:53 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:
miir wrote:I hope he doesn't spit on me.
Don't even have anything to say for yourself. So pathetic.

You wouldn't be worth the energy it would take me to spit on you, so no worries on your part.

Relax Funk. I've spoken about this topic to you before. You need to be able to separate VV from RL and MMOLife. VV or any messge board for that matter are not indicative of real life. While there are some on this board who try to represent themselves truthfully, much more others do not. These boards are a place to be someone different. To live an alter ego. To serve as a stress relief. Many others reasons to, I'm sure. I understand how you can get caught up in it. I have found myself caught up it in too. It wasn't until the last time I came back after quitting the all mighty VV, that I've been sucessful in keeping the worlds separated. Miir isn't half the asshole he presents himself to be. Nick isn't half as angry as he represents himself to be. Chill, brother.....chill.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 31, 2008, 8:26 pm

Pretty much what Mid said. Except in real life I am a porn director.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 31, 2008, 8:36 pm

I think Mid and I equally enjoy our arguments.

Funk just doesn't get it.

MooZilla · Post by **MooZilla** » July 31, 2008, 9:04 pm

If John McCain wins the office i'm moving to Canada. He doesn't know how to use a computer. He fabricates/lies about his war stories. His former economic adviser called America a nation of "whiners" in respect to the tight financial situation, he's ran a completely negative campaign - we understand what he's against, but what is he really for? 100 more years in iraq? - and, McCain's plan for the environment falls painfully short of what we need to clean up our nation's carbon dioxide emissions.

The list goes on, and I can write about it all day. And the only thing to be said about Obama is basically, "fear change. he's a radical! a socialist!"

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 10:09 pm

MooZilla wrote:- we understand what he's against, but what is he really for?

You asked the question.

http://www.johnmccain.com/service/servi ... &t=service

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 10:19 pm

Obama on Guns...

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Feder ... px?id=3991

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 10:21 pm

Obama on saving energy...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... rQK-9piQBg

fixed

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » July 31, 2008, 10:37 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Obama on Guns...

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Feder ... px?id=3991

That's some good googling there..

Mind you, I'm not so sure about some of these sources, apparently the NRA doesn't understand the difference between Fact and Opinion either (so I can see why you'd miss that)

e.g. first "Fact"

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry

Fact in green, Opinion in red.

I know we've been over this before.... perhaps repetition is the key

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 10:45 pm

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On Passage of the Bill (Passage of S. 397, As Amended )

Vote Number: 219 Vote Date: July 29, 2005, 05:11 PM

Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed

Measure Number: S. 397

Measure Title: A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others.

Vote Counts:
YEAs 65
NAYs 31
Not Voting 4

Obama (D-IL), Nay

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00219

The subjective comment following voting wasn't really subjetive. It's actually pretty easy to draw the correlation. I think you're stretching a bit. How about this, refrain from the little retorts and just read and learn about your candidate.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 10:47 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Obama on saving energy...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=o ... ng%20tires

Heh, I don't know what video you think you're posting, but that is a pretty damn good Obama ad. Btw, he doesn't mention energy once in the video you posted.

Your snipes are off target more than usual today, and that's saying a lot.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 10:51 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Obama on saving energy...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=o ... ng%20tires
Heh, I don't know what video you think you're posting, but that is a pretty damn good Obama ad. Btw, he doesn't mention energy once in the video you posted.

Your snipes are off target more than usual today, and that's saying a lot.

I fixed it to go to the right link. Thanks.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » July 31, 2008, 11:13 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:
miir wrote:I hope he doesn't spit on me.
Don't even have anything to say for yourself. So pathetic.

You wouldn't be worth the energy it would take me to spit on you, so no worries on your part.
Relax Funk. I've spoken about this topic to you before. You need to be able to separate VV from RL and MMOLife. VV or any messge board for that matter are not indicative of real life. While there are some on this board who try to represent themselves truthfully, much more others do not. These boards are a place to be someone different. To live an alter ego. To serve as a stress relief. Many others reasons to, I'm sure. I understand how you can get caught up in it. I have found myself caught up it in too. It wasn't until the last time I came back after quitting the all mighty VV, that I've been sucessful in keeping the worlds separated. Miir isn't half the asshole he presents himself to be. Nick isn't half as angry as he represents himself to be. Chill, brother.....chill.

Yeah, that's the difference though. I don't have time to separate that. I don't pretend to be someone I'm not on this website because I see no reason. The pretending to be a prick shit if that's really what it is, is not for me. Either you are a friend of mine, or you aren't.. I just don't get the mentality.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » July 31, 2008, 11:27 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
"What they're going to try to do is make you scared of me. You know, he's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills."

"So what they're saying is, 'Well, we know we're not very good but you can't risk electing Obama. You know, he's new, he doesn't look like the other presidents on the currency."

"'Well, you know, he's got a funny name, and he doesn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bills and the five dollar bills,' and they're going to send out nasty e -mails. And the latest one they got me in an ad with Paris Hilton. You know, never met the woman. But, you know, what they're going to try to argue is that somehow I'm too risky."

Too funny.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_ ... eb_ad.html

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 11:31 pm

Sad. So Sad. He needs to change the record already. Well, if it's anything like his knowledge of computers, he probably dosen't know what a record is

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 11:36 pm

LOL That's a great little ad. Thanks for sharing it.

Edit: Don't get me wrong. I think it's a bit low brow and not very presediential to run such silliness, but it is amusing.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 31, 2008, 11:43 pm

You should probably go learn what humour is.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » July 31, 2008, 11:47 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL That's a great little ad. Thanks for sharing it.

Edit: Don't get me wrong. I think it's a bit low brow and not very presediential to run such silliness, but it is amusing.

McCain is playing the race card meme for Obama's "You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills." line.

The retard must have forgotten he used this in his little web ad.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 31, 2008, 11:51 pm

Was that a real ad?

Did McCain approve that message?