Thou shalt not make polls...

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Why are you on here spouting it off? Fuckers like you and Winnow are the ones who ALWAYS bring up the religious shit....I have not seen anyone on this board forcing jack shit religiously onto anyone and in fact have not seen a single thread started about religion by someone that was NOT an atheist/agnostic. All you do is throw the same bullshit out here repeatedly in a fucking trolling asstastic show of superiority because you know that the rest of the fuckhead clan will all jump in to stomp on anyone that IS religious here. Basically, and I am pointing at you in particular Xatrei whoever the fuck you are, you are a pretentious prick that I lump into the same category as Nick and Winnow.

[Xatrei]

Oh, seriously, fuck off. I'm the same person I have been for the 6+ years we've been posting here. In case you forgot, this is a discussion board, and - oddly enough - discussions about any number of topics occur here. I didn't start this particular discussion, I participated in it. I'd have to double check my posting history to be totally sure, but I don't recall starting any discussion about religion, although I have participated in a number of them.

With regards to this thread, and your clueless response, no one ever claimed that anyone on this board was trying to force anything on anyone, you comprehension-deficient mongoloid. The discussion wasn't about people on this board, it was about extremist elements, on both sides, out in the world. People pushing their faith-based values into public policy matters is a very serious issue, whether you choose to see it that way or not. If you don't want to participate in the discussion, then don't. You not caring for the subject, however, is no reason that others can't try to have a civil, adult conversation about it (which is what was happening until you joined in by shitting all over the place). No one is trolling waiting to pounce on someone with religious beliefs. Look at all the people in this thread stomping on Bubba for his faith! Oh, wait... there aren't any. You're the only one that's attacking anyone in this thread, this counterattack response excepted.

Like I've said many times before, I don't care what others believe, so long as they don't try to impose their values and beliefs on me. If that doesn't describe you, then guess what! I'm not fucking talking about you. There are, however, plenty of people out in the world that are working rather hard to push their values and beliefs on the rest of us, and it is those people with that have a giant issue with and that I'm talking about.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Would you like me to compile a list of posts by board members that are making derogatory comments on our faith? I have $1000 US dollars that says I can come up with more than 100 of them.

[Ashur]

I was going to go gather the very same data, but decided it was too much like work and just let it go.

[Xatrei]

I'm not denying that there haven't been some unkind things said, or even that I've been guilty of it myself at times. I'll even agree that you perceive more attacks on the faithful than on the godless. I'll go a step further and concede that there might actually be more unkind things said about religion, although I'd caution you to stop interpreting any expression of an opinion or perspective that differs from your own as an attack on your own position. I don't interpret someone's expression of faith as an attack on my own beliefs, and there's no reason that anyone should interpret my description of my beliefs as an attack on theirs, unless their faith is so fragile that merely discussing other perspectives will somehow harm their faith.

None of this, however, is the point. This was a civil and respectful and respectful discussion, which was a bit of a pleasant surprise, that had nothing to do with anyone on this board, or with past discussions on this board. At least it was until the last few posts.

[Winnow]

What Xatrei can't seem to get through your head is that no one here cares about someone's personal beliefs. At least the non believers on this board don't. There's no avoiding discussing religion though as it has completely fucked up our world. I've made no special allowances for any religion in particular. The major religions are are pretty much equally corrupt.

I still don't give a shit what your, or any another personal beliefs are here. Addressing the bigger picture is worthwhile though. The closest I've come to a therapy session is commenting that heavy duty religious types should at least give their kids a fighting chance at finding their own beliefs before they are inundated by their parents at an early age when they are so impressionable and believe anything that comes out of their parent's mouths. The same is true for atheists. Don't fuck your kids up. Religion and prejudice are close cousins which get handed down through the generations.

And let the kids dance for the love of god.

Loose, footloose
Kick off your Sunday shoes
Please, Louise
Pull me offa my knees

[Canelek]

I am certainly guilty at times, and apologize.

That is just in regard to faith though. I make no apologies in relation to bashing GW, the US economy, social issues, the south nor the Buckeyes.

Go Blue!

[Xatrei]

What Xatrei can't seem to get through your head is that no one here cares about someone's personal beliefs. At least the non believers on this board don't. There's no avoiding discussing religion though as it has completely fucked up our world. I've made no special allowances for any religion in particular. The major religions are are pretty much equally corrupt.

Exactly. I don't care about anyone's personal beliefs on this board, and when I discuss religion as it relates to government and public policy, I'm only concerned about fundamentalists pushing their faith into serious issues in the real world (stem cell research, HIV/AIDS prevention, ID in schools, gay marriage, etc.), not on this board. I've certainly been guilty at times of being rude about it, but in general, I try to keep things civil and not bash someone's beliefs. When I've failed to do so, it's generally been the result of getting angry and fired up during the course of an argument here, and not the first position I take. Ultimately, it doesn't matter a bit to me if you believe in a god or not. You can believe that the Wonder Twins created the universe for all I care. Simply participating in a discussion about this stuff is not an attack on someone's faith, or lack thereof, contrary to the apparent beliefs of some people around here.

(deleted / edited my initial post here because I misread Winnow's response. If you saw it, ignore it hehe)

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

I do not care one shred of an iota if you are atheists. I don't bring it up and none of the religious on this board EVER have brought up atheists and started posts blasting them over anything here. It is the non-religious that continually bring the shit up and jump up and down screaming about it every other damn day that makes me want to strangle them. FINE...WE GET IT, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD! Last post that ever needs to be made stating it. Just like the gays don't have to dress up in pink assless jumpsuits with ascots and march in parades announcing their gayness and proudness....we don't care and you don't have to keep bringing it up.

The people who claim to represent religions are NOT representative of them. The people who DO represent them are the everyday people who don't have the time to be out attention whoring because they are attending church or doing fundraisers to help those poor kids have a Christmas or donating money to causes like AIDS research. You want ot recognize the corrupt idiot mouthpieces then fine.....we of faith will accept in return that Winnow and Midnyte are spokesmen for all atheists and agnostics worldwide.

[Xatrei]

You still don't get the point. If I thought there was even a small chance of you ever getting it, I'd give a more meaningful response, but...

[Canelek]

Pink assless jumpsuits and ascots.

[Winnow]

Religious people don't scream and shout about atheists because Atheists aren't the ones destroying humanity. Atheists can't ignore religion, as much as it's desired to do so, because religious fucknuts are killing each other in endless cycles, dragging people who don't give a fuck into the fray as well. At minimum, 90% of the wars started are due to religion. The other 10% are territorial wars started by people over the generations who in present day, would belong to the NRA.

[Ashur]

At minimum, 90% of the wars started are due to religion. The other 10% are territorial wars started by people over the generations who in present day, would belong to the NRA.

Bullshit. Almost every single war was started over land or money. Ever.

[Winnow]

At minimum, 90% of the wars started are due to religion. The other 10% are territorial wars started by people over the generations who in present day, would belong to the NRA.

Bullshit. Almost every single war was started over land or money. Ever.

What a joke.

Here we go! This is just currently, not historically which has a shitload more:



Let the excuses fly!