Two of the Greatest Movies Ever Up for Remakes

[Sylvus]

WOLVERINES!

CANNES -- MGM could be bringing back the Cold War.

"Red Dawn," John Milius' 1984 tale of a group of American rebels fighting Soviet forces, is a candidate for a remake, studio toppers Harry Sloan and Mary Parent revealed Saturday at the American Pavilion in Cannes.

They also confirmed that 1987's "Robocop" could resurface in a new version.

[Ashur]

Robocop doesn't need a new version...

As for Red Dawn, never saw it, so no preconceived notions on it.

Personally I don't care if every movie ever made was remade. I'll either see them or not.

EDIT: How about reimaging the invading force as Red Chinese and not the Soviets?!?!?! HAHA

[Fash]

Robocop was a great movie... I can't see how they can re-tell that story without it sucking.

Although, it would be nice to see a new ED-209 !

[Funkmasterr]

Robocop doesn't need a new version...

As for Red Dawn, never saw it, so no preconceived notions on it.

Personally I don't care if every movie ever made was remade. I'll either see them or not.

I agree robocop doesn't need it, and also don't know about the other. For the most part I think they need to stop remaking shit period, it's pathetic. It also doesn't help their whining about pirating, considering they can't put out quality NEW ideas instead of recycling.

[Fairweather Pure]

Come up with something new already.

[Winnow]

I liked Red Dawn. I had just read Lucifer's Hammer and was in survivalist mode when I watched it the first time. It's sort of a Breakfast Club of war movies with lots of young actors in some of their first roles. Patrick Swayze, C. Thomas Howell, Charlie Sheen, Lea Thompson, Jennifer Grey.

[Ashur]

Young hot Jennifer Grey??

I need to go rent this one!

[Sylvus]

I can't believe you haven't seen Red Dawn. The commies invade the US and this group of kids are resistance fighters. And, a young Jennifer Grey.

[Nick]

Come up with something new already.

[Xatrei]

I saw Red Dawn on the first double date that I ever went on (only 14 or 15 year old boys would pick this as a date movie). I don't know how the hell Red Dawn could be retold today. There's not even a plausible story to develop that would fit the original theme (space aliens?). The big reason I don't think it would work a second time is that the original Red Dawn always struck me as a propaganda film, and I don't think movie audiences would buy that this time around. Even though it's a propaganda flick, it's one I'm fond of, primarily for nostalgic reasons.

Robocop? Feh.. A sequel might be interesting, but I'd have to say "no thank you" to a remake of the original

Come up with something new already.

I'm with you on that - I'm sick rehashed versions of old films. I don't mind sequels to a degree, but remakes are lame. There are some exceptions in my opinion, but Hollywood should generally come up with something new for Jebus' sake. Writers and directors can revisit a theme without doing a complete remake, although this is tricky territory also. One of the few remakes that I liked better than the original is Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, a remake of Bedtime Story

[Ashur]

I can't believe you haven't seen Red Dawn. The commies invade the US and this group of kids are resistance fighters. And, a young Jennifer Grey.

I knew what it was about, just never saw it.

[Canelek]

Young Jennifer Gray? Oh sweet pete, why? She didn't get hot until she was like 27 or so!

[Ashur]

Thanks for ruining it, Rich!

[Truant]

There were actually two robocop sequels, a tv series, and a tv miniseries.

I saw the second robocop. It was shit. I didn't see the third one, but someone told me the plot, and it was shittier than shit.

[Xatrei]

Yeah, I saw the 2nd one, and it pretty much sucked goat. I never watched the third one, but heard enough about it to know that it wasn't anything I wanted to see. I never watched any of the TV variants. The sheer awfulness of the sequels to Robocop is why I think that a new sequel might have potential - the film screams for a sequel that was just never done well. A well written story set in the same world as the original, with the same general themes, but with new characters and new twists has potential. Especially with modern effects and the right director. The potential is there, but its success is a long-shot.

[Canelek]

Thanks for ruining it, Rich!

Oh you know you have the collector's edition of Dirty Dancing! (assuming there is one)

[Ashur]

I don't own many DVDs sir, unless you count the kids ones for my daughter, and Dirty Dancing is not among the ones I do have.

[Canelek]

Oh you know you were rocking the 'swayze' hair in 1985!

[Bubba Grizz]

Jennifer Grey before the nose job. I remember seeing this in the theatre when I was a kid. It pretty much rocked. I'd like to see this remade though. I doubt I'd go see it in a theatre again but if it looks great in the previews and trailor I just might. Going to movies while having young kids really doesn't work out so well. I'm hoping I get a chance to get out to the theatre some time before they are teenagers.

[Canelek]

Red Dawn was/is such an excellent movie though. I just don't see the point of a remake here. Hollywood grab-bag of random shit to remake. This train will keep rolling though. After all, they made a movie out of a shitty cartoon recently (speed racer).

[Boogahz]

I picked up Red Dawn at Best Buy for $8.99 thanks to this thread reminding me of it!

[Trek]

This kinda sucks to hear, both movies are fine without a remake.

[Keverian FireCry]

I loved watching the original Robocop many times as a kid and as an adult, but the sequels were just horrible. If they remake it I just hope they carry along the satirical elements of the original. The same social commentary that the original carried would be even more meaningful today. Without such elements I'm sure it would be a successful and relatively entertaining movie, but it could be sooo much more if done right.


That said, I'd probably enjoy an all-out action film based off the following image more than any of the AvP movies (which doesn't really say a lot) ...

[Chidoro]

Red Dawn was/is such an excellent movie though. I just don't see the point of a remake here. Hollywood grab-bag of random shit to remake. This train will keep rolling though. After all, they made a movie out of a shitty cartoon recently (speed racer).

Never understood how someone would think a lousy cartoon like speed racer would make a movie worth seeing.

Robocop does not need a remake. Red Dawn doesn't really need to be redone either. It was a surprisingly gritty movie. I am also pretty sure it was the first movie to receive a PG-13 rating.

[Fairweather Pure]

It was a surprisingly gritty movie. I am also pretty sure it was the first movie to receive a PG-13 rating.

At one time, Red Dawn was considered the most violent film by the Guinness Book of Records and the The National Coalition on Television Violence, with a rate of 134 acts of violence per hour, or 2.23 per minute. Seriously. I have no idea what takes the top honors now.

The operation name to capture Saddam was Red Dawn. The two entry sites were Wolverine 1 and Wolverine 2.

I could go on and on. I know so much trivia about this movie, it's a little disturbing...

[Spang]

MASH was the first movie to have the word fuck in it.

[Canelek]

I thought David Lynch's Dune was the firts PG-13, but you may be right about Red Dawn. Still would not want t remake--love the movie as is!



EDIT: Here we go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic ... ing_system

Before July 1, 1984, there was a minor trend of cinema straddling the PG and R ratings (per MPAA records of appeals to its decisions in the early 1980s), suggesting a needed middle ground. Disney's PG-rated Dragonslayer (1981) alarmed parents with explicit fantasy violence and blood-letting. In summer of 1982, Poltergeist (1982) was re-rated PG on appeal, although originally rated R for strong supernatural violence and marijuana-smoking parents.

Because of such successful appeals, based upon artistic intent, many mild, mainstream movies were rated PG instead of R because of only some thematically necessary strong cursing, e.g. Tootsie, Terms of Endearment, Sixteen Candles, and Footloose. These censorship reversals were consequence, in large measure, of the 1970s precedent established by All the President's Men.[7] Had these movies been released after 1984, they likely would have been rated PG-13 because of their content.

In 1984, explicit violence in the PG-rated films Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Gremlins were "the straws that broke the parents' backs". Their complaints led Hollywood figure Steven Spielberg, director of Temple of Doom, to suggest a new rating, PG-14, to MPAA president Jack Valenti. Instead, on conferring with cinema owners, Mr Valenti and the MPAA on July 1, 1984, introduced the PG-13 rating, allowing in children under 13 years of age without a parent or an adult guardian, but warning parents about potentially shocking violence, cursing, and mature subject matter that may be inappropriate for children under 13; though weaker than an R rating, PG-13 is the strongest unrestricted rating. The first widely-distributed PG-13 movie was Red Dawn (1984), followed by Dreamscape (1984), and The Flamingo Kid (1984), although The Flamingo Kid was the first film so rated by the board. [8][9]

[Sylvus]

Red Dawn is currently being filmed in Detroit.

Pictures of the shoot here. No word on whether the explosion is part of the movie or just your average day in Detroit.


I beat you bitches to the punch!

[Xatrei]

WTF Detroit? Is the Robocop remake going to be shot in Wyoming?