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Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter
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Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday.
The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.
As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this," he wrote in the letter written on January 3, 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, cited by The Guardian newspaper.
The German-language letter is being sold Thursday by Bloomsbury Auctions in Mayfair after being in a private collection for more than 50 years, said the auction house's managing director Rupert Powell.
In it, the renowned scientist, who declined an invitation to become Israel's second president, rejected the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people.
"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions," he said.
"And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people."
And he added: "As far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."
Previously the great scientist's comments on religion -- such as "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -- have been the subject of much debate, used notably to back up arguments in favour of faith.
Powell said the letter being sold this week gave a clear reflection of Einstein's real thoughts on the subject. "He's fairly unequivocal as to what he's saying. There's no beating about the bush," he told AFP.
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
I believe Einstein had a deathbed conversion back to belief in God? (or close to death) I'm pretty sure that his religious views changed several times in his life. When he thought of his theory of relativity, he asked himslef "If I were God, how would I build the universe?" as a launching pad for his ideas.
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
Urban legend as far as I'm concerned.Fairweather Pure wrote:I believe Einstein had a deathbed conversion back to belief in God?
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
The deathbed conversion legend is a lie popularized by god wonks to paint him as a part of their crowd.
While he referred to "God" in some writings, his intent has been misunderstood and misrepresented. He didn't believe in God or religion in the sense that Christians do, but in a non-supernatural sense to describe the underpinnings of our physical universe.
While he referred to "God" in some writings, his intent has been misunderstood and misrepresented. He didn't believe in God or religion in the sense that Christians do, but in a non-supernatural sense to describe the underpinnings of our physical universe.
A. Einstein wrote:“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
lol @ deathbed conversion
Religious people always have to scrape up some dude stuck in a foxhole or half dead people to find someone that "converts". It's called desperation under pressure or fear of the unknown.
Religious people always have to scrape up some dude stuck in a foxhole or half dead people to find someone that "converts". It's called desperation under pressure or fear of the unknown.
Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
Einstein or Darwin's belief or lack of belief in god does not change the existence of god. I'm not sure why these "quotes" or "stories" are even brought up. First off they didn't even have the opportunity to live in the era of modern genetics.
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
That would only have cemented their views.Markulas wrote:First off they didn't even have the opportunity to live in the era of modern genetics.
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
So, because some guy, who couldnt even remeber to wear pants, wrote a note that said religion is silly, people care? why?
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
Only because he's pretty much universally regarded as a genius.Noysyrump wrote:So, because some guy, who couldnt even remeber to wear pants, wrote a note that said religion is silly, people care? why?
Einstein's many contributions to physics include his special theory of relativity, which reconciled mechanics with electromagnetism, and his general theory of relativity, which extended the principle of relativity to non-uniform motion, creating a new theory of gravitation. His other contributions include relativistic cosmology, capillary action, critical opalescence, classical problems of statistical mechanics and their application to quantum theory, an explanation of the Brownian movement of molecules, atomic transition probabilities, the quantum theory of a monatomic gas, thermal properties of light with low radiation density (which laid the foundation for the photon theory), a theory of radiation including stimulated emission, the conception of a unified field theory, and the geometrization of physics.
He is probably the most recognized scientist in history, as well as one of the most important, counted among or even surpassing the achievements of Galileo, Isaac Newton, and Charles Darwin. In wider culture the name "Einstein" has become synonymous with genius.
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
The genius responsible for...

Who couldnt remember to wear his trousers...

Who couldnt remember to wear his trousers...

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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
1) Poor grasp of cause and effect there.
2) Naked and covered in his own excrement, still smarter than you.
2) Naked and covered in his own excrement, still smarter than you.
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
I'm not sure how responsible he was for the atomic bomb.
"Concerned scientists, many of them refugees from European anti-Semitism in the U.S., recognized the danger of German scientists developing an atomic bomb based on the newly-discovered phenomena of nuclear fission. In 1939, the Hungarian émigré Leó Szilárd, having failed to arouse U.S. government interest on his own, worked with Einstein to write a letter to U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, which Einstein signed, urging U.S. development of nuclear weapons before the Germans"
"Einstein himself did not play a role in the development of the atomic bomb other than signing the letter"
"According to Linus Pauling, Einstein later expressed regret about his letter to Roosevelt. In 1947, Einstein wrote an article for The Atlantic Monthly arguing that the United States should not try to pursue an atomic monopoly, and instead should equip the United Nations with nuclear weapons for the sole purpose of maintaining deterrence."
"Concerned scientists, many of them refugees from European anti-Semitism in the U.S., recognized the danger of German scientists developing an atomic bomb based on the newly-discovered phenomena of nuclear fission. In 1939, the Hungarian émigré Leó Szilárd, having failed to arouse U.S. government interest on his own, worked with Einstein to write a letter to U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, which Einstein signed, urging U.S. development of nuclear weapons before the Germans"
"Einstein himself did not play a role in the development of the atomic bomb other than signing the letter"
"According to Linus Pauling, Einstein later expressed regret about his letter to Roosevelt. In 1947, Einstein wrote an article for The Atlantic Monthly arguing that the United States should not try to pursue an atomic monopoly, and instead should equip the United Nations with nuclear weapons for the sole purpose of maintaining deterrence."
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
Йур углй анд смел фунй туZaelath wrote:1) Poor grasp of cause and effect there.
2) Naked and covered in his own excrement, still smarter than you.
Dont copy pasta it into google, as it is engrish in cyrillic!~
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
Interestingly enough, it still makes about as much sense to me as your engrish in English.
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Re: Belief in God 'childish,'
Hey did you hear that George Carlin had a deathbed conversion!? You heard it here first!
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hypocrit