Remove the ban on Cartalas and

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » April 30, 2008, 1:40 pm

420 unban cartalas everyday

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » April 30, 2008, 1:46 pm

ZOMG CRY MORE N00b!1

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » April 30, 2008, 2:04 pm

I had no cheesesteak.

the guy who drove in the carpool wanted Skyline.

Maybe tonight.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » April 30, 2008, 2:12 pm

Ashur wrote:I had no cheesesteak. the guy who drove in the carpool wanted Skyline.

Maybe tonight.

srsly? I know that place is hardcore famous...but it looked umm....not good.

If you say it's not horrible though, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and try it.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » April 30, 2008, 2:28 pm

It "looked not good" where? Skyline is good eating!

Truant · Post by **Truant** » April 30, 2008, 2:41 pm

Ashur wrote:It "looked not good" where? Skyline is good eating!

Tv. Tony Bourdain did a show there. He was eating spaghetti with some kind of chili sauce that looked like lumpy chocolate and topped with shredded yellow cheese.

Again, it might be great. But it didn't LOOK good. So I was curious.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » April 30, 2008, 2:51 pm

Oh, yeah, the No Reservations piece? Yeah, they seriously were in "let's mock this food (and everything Midwestern)" mode. If that's all I knew of it, I would stay away too, but it was a really slanted piece IMO.

It's spaghetti with a Cincinnati Style Chili covered with shredded cheddar cheese. They wouldn't quit making fun of the cheese as "orange stuff", I mean it's cheddar cheese FFS it's not like it's supposed to be green...

In fairness, most "California" cooking looks like shit to me. So I guess to each their own.

I still would have rather have had a cheesesteak...

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » April 30, 2008, 3:03 pm

Cincinnati Style Chili

Is that like a Cincinnati Sock Party?

Ask Kilmoll about that, or just look it up on urban dictionary.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » April 30, 2008, 3:07 pm

Update: This thread made me want a cheesesteak, so I ordered one from the local pizza place that makes an OK cheesesteak (by philly standards). Well, when it got here, it had some sort of sauce on it, and no cheese, so I called and complained. Got my money back, but I still really want a cheesesteak.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 30, 2008, 3:39 pm

You have to do the Cincinnati Sock Party AFTER the chili. That way it burns the victim a little more.

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » April 30, 2008, 4:14 pm

Since the discussion turned to cheesesteak, the value of this thread has increased ninefold.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » April 30, 2008, 4:24 pm

Ashur wrote:Oh, yeah, the No Reservations piece? Yeah, they seriously were in "let's mock this food (and everything Midwestern)" mode. If that's all I knew of it, I would stay away too, but it was a really slanted piece IMO.

It's spaghetti with a Cincinnati Style Chili covered with shredded cheddar cheese. They wouldn't quit making fun of the cheese as "orange stuff", I mean it's cheddar cheese FFS it's not like it's supposed to be green...

In fairness, most "California" cooking looks like shit to me. So I guess to each their own.

I still would have rather have had a cheesesteak...

He was sort of mocking because of his friend calling him out, but he said that it was good.
The "orange stuff" comment is because no cheese is actually yellow or orange. For whatever weird reason we (Americans) started putting dye in our cheese, and now everyone thinks cheese is supposed to be yellow/orange. Generally those cheeses don't really taste anything like cheese.
My comment was just that it looked like watered down canned chili "sauce". Like the stuff I might put on a hot dog at someone's backyard party. I guess I'm just used to a very different definition of chili. Also, putting those three things together on a plate sounds like something either a bachelor would throw together out of necessity, or a pregnant woman in the midst of crazy cravings.

Like I said. It sounds/looks absolutely fucking crazy. But i'll give it the benefit of the doubt and try it once.

(P.S. This is the chili I'm familiar with. Just in case you were curious!)

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » April 30, 2008, 4:35 pm

It's not like your typical "bowl of chili". It's a little more mild/sweeter. It's not so much watered down, in fact the only real liquid on my plate when I was done was from the spaghetti and the hot sauce I added.

It's not 5-star fare, but it's good eating.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » April 30, 2008, 4:47 pm

Seriously guys, when did this thread turn interesting?

Winnow wrote:I''ll be in PA for a week in June for a family reunion (both sides are from there). I need to get warmed up so I can make fun of my relatives for not moving out West. Easton is the little town where I'll be, near Allentown. I'll be in Philly for Cheesesteaks at least one of those days. I'll have to wear a Nash jersey or something!

Come visit me. I'll be living in Philadelphia at that time.

On Cheesesteaks: Pats is my favorite of those mentioned so far. Ordering is simple: (type of cheese) + ('wit' for onions) + (anything else you want... mushrooms, peppers... don't ask for mayo, tomato, etc). They're not as hardass about it as legend would lead you to believe, especially at Jim's, which is probably the most tourist-centric of the big cheesesteak places. Tony Luke's deserves a mention too.

I had a salad for lunch.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » April 30, 2008, 4:57 pm

here is what you MUST try with that skyline chili.

take a glass type baking pan.....put a layer of say 1/4" of cream cheese in it. Take 2 of those skyline chili packages and heat them and dump them over the cream cheese. Take a pack of shredded cheddar cheese and spread it over the chili and stick it in the oven until that cheese melts. Smack around a couple of mexicans and take their tortilla chips and use them to eat all that cheesy/chili goodness. Drink beer....rinse and repeat

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » April 30, 2008, 5:09 pm

Oh ffs! Why on earth would you put cream cheese in/on anything? Ewww

Substitute that muck for some good wholesome pinto beans, fresh jalepenos and top is with some lovely homemade habanero salsa (see cooking section).

PS: Real cheese comes packaged in a Frito-Lay can.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » April 30, 2008, 5:15 pm

Sueven wrote:
Winnow wrote:I''ll be in PA for a week in June for a family reunion (both sides are from there). I need to get warmed up so I can make fun of my relatives for not moving out West. Easton is the little town where I'll be, near Allentown. I'll be in Philly for Cheesesteaks at least one of those days. I'll have to wear a Nash jersey or something!
Come visit me. I'll be living in Philadelphia at that time.

I'd meet the two of yas for steaks and beers, just let me know!

VVCon Philly?

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » April 30, 2008, 5:27 pm

Fash wrote:
Sueven wrote:
Winnow wrote:I''ll be in PA for a week in June for a family reunion (both sides are from there). I need to get warmed up so I can make fun of my relatives for not moving out West. Easton is the little town where I'll be, near Allentown. I'll be in Philly for Cheesesteaks at least one of those days. I'll have to wear a Nash jersey or something!
Come visit me. I'll be living in Philadelphia at that time.
I'd meet the two of yas for steaks and beers, just let me know!

VVCon Philly?

Hopefully we can work something like that out, I will show up if so. Any excuse for a cheesesteak is a good excuse.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 30, 2008, 5:29 pm

Canelek wrote:Oh ffs! Why on earth would you put cream cheese in/on anything? Ewww

Surely you've never had a philadelphia (aka bagel) roll then.

Sushi > Cheesesteak

Truant · Post by **Truant** » April 30, 2008, 5:43 pm

Canelek wrote:Oh ffs! Why on earth would you put cream cheese in/on anything? Ewww

At a family gathering I had an aunt cut a really good salsa with cream cheese because, "It makes it easier to dip and less spicy."
Which is hilarious, because my entire family except her eats rediculously spicy stuff.
Needless to say, there was a ton of it left over.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » April 30, 2008, 6:12 pm

One time I ordered wontons as an appetizer from a Chinese place in Santa Barbara. I almost hurled because it had cream cheese in it.

WTF would put that crap in a wonton? Cream cheese is about as Asian as hockey is Mexican.

Stupid fat USAdians.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » April 30, 2008, 6:15 pm

Canelek wrote:One time I ordered wontons as an appetizer from a Chinese place in Santa Barbara. I almost hurled because it had cream cheese in it. WTF would put that crap in a wonton? Cream cheese is about as Asian as hockey is Mexican.

Stupid fat USAdians.

Cream cheese wantons are super popular around here.. It used to be that you could only order the meat ones (I prefer them), but now it's actually harder to find the meat ones, especially at fast food type Chinese places.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » April 30, 2008, 6:18 pm

Canelek wrote:One time I ordered wontons as an appetizer from a Chinese place in Santa Barbara. I almost hurled because it had cream cheese in it. WTF would put that crap in a wonton? Cream cheese is about as Asian as hockey is Mexican.

Stupid fat USAdians.

They weren't listed as cheese wontons? Those are the only ones I ever get cream cheese in.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » April 30, 2008, 6:28 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Canelek wrote:One time I ordered wontons as an appetizer from a Chinese place in Santa Barbara. I almost hurled because it had cream cheese in it. WTF would put that crap in a wonton? Cream cheese is about as Asian as hockey is Mexican.

Stupid fat USAdians.
They weren't listed as cheese wontons? Those are the only ones I ever get cream cheese in.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » April 30, 2008, 6:56 pm

Why the hell would I want a cheese wonton??

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 30, 2008, 7:08 pm

Sueven wrote:
Come visit me. I'll be living in Philadelphia at that time.

I would but I'll have zero free time on this trip. I'm just along for the ride as others have it all planned out. I just know Philly and Cheesesteaks are on the agenda. Easton PA is where I'll be most of the time (right on the border of New Jersey. Saved from shame by about one mile)

For all of those desiring a history of Easton PA:

http://easton-pa.com/index.asp?Type=B_L ... 3501535%7D

It's pretty damn old. 1750's.

I'll have you know:

In the 1750's Easton was born, at this spot the Indians called "Lechawitauk" or "The Place at the Forks". The Great Square (now known as Centre Square) was, and remains, a gathering place for residents and travelers, in fact, on July 8, 1776, it was the site for one of only three readings of the Declaration of Independence.

The tavern was visited by George Washington and Ben Franklin. It was, like many taverns, a social center of colonial times, and often served as a courtroom until the original courthouse was completed in 1765.

Back to the cheesesteaks!

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » April 30, 2008, 8:29 pm

Easton is 15 minutes from where Sueven and I grew up. We played all of their schools in various sports during high school. Did you got to High School there?

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » April 30, 2008, 9:00 pm

dude

the best ever scrambled eggs are made with fresh chili, sage, rosemary, cheddar and...cream cheese. ask anyone who had breakfast at Julie's at an ATL meet!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 30, 2008, 9:07 pm

Aardor wrote:Easton is 15 minutes from where Sueven and I grew up. We played all of their schools in various sports during high school. Did you got to High School there?

I only lived there for about two months. I started 7th grade in Easton Middle school (they started me in the general classes because I was from the west coast so they thought I was stupid by default. After a few weeks I moved up to the honors classes. Wewt!) I will say that the East coast school was better than the ones I attended in California and Nevada.

So no, I didn't go to High School there but my brother played soccer at Easton High School (the one that's right by the huge Dixie Cup. I think their team name was the Bulldogs. (or something to do with dogs)

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » April 30, 2008, 11:16 pm

Well, Winnow's out, but Fash is in!

Post by **Sylvus** » May 1, 2008, 2:15 am

How far of a drive is it from Ann Arbor, Michigan? I'll go. I love cheesesteaks, and you guys seem reasonable.

Not that i'm only in because winnow is out, I've already met him.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » May 1, 2008, 2:29 am

Sylvus wrote:How far of a drive is it from Ann Arbor, Michigan? I'll go. I love cheesesteaks, and you guys seem reasonable.

Not that i'm only in because winnow is out, I've already met him.

Map

It's worth it.

Don't wear a Rage Against the Machine shirt.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 1, 2008, 3:43 am

I'll be in PA June 27th - July 2nd. If something changes and I have a spare day, I'd be happy to meet up with some VV peeps.

And despite the current single topic feud on on the VV boards, Sylvus is/was cool IRL. I can't really think of anyone who hasn't been that I've met from VV/Veeshan.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 1, 2008, 11:59 am

Aardor wrote:
Sylvus wrote:How far of a drive is it from Ann Arbor, Michigan? I'll go. I love cheesesteaks, and you guys seem reasonable.

Not that i'm only in because winnow is out, I've already met him.
Map

It's worth it.

Don't wear a Rage Against the Machine shirt.

Wow, I didn't realize how big Pennsylvania was. 9.5 hour drive for a cheesesteak... I'd have to think about that. I do love cheesesteaks though.

And why shouldn't I wear a Rage Against the Machine shirt? Not that I have one.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 1, 2008, 12:05 pm

PA is a very long state if you're going east/west. Hated PA when I had to drive through it!

Subway now has a cheesesteak. I'm sure it's just as good. Save your gas money!

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » May 1, 2008, 12:07 pm

Winnow wrote:I'll be in PA June 27th - July 2nd. If something changes and I have a spare day, I'd be happy to meet up with some VV peeps.

And despite the current single topic feud on on the VV boards, Sylvus is/was cool IRL. I can't really think of anyone who hasn't been that I've met from VV/Veeshan.

what about karae

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » May 1, 2008, 12:15 pm

Subway now has a cheesesteak. I'm sure it's just as good.

holy shit

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » May 1, 2008, 12:33 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Aardor wrote:
Sylvus wrote:How far of a drive is it from Ann Arbor, Michigan? I'll go. I love cheesesteaks, and you guys seem reasonable.

Not that i'm only in because winnow is out, I've already met him.
Map

It's worth it.

Don't wear a Rage Against the Machine shirt.
Wow, I didn't realize how big Pennsylvania was. 9.5 hour drive for a cheesesteak... I'd have to think about that. I do love cheesesteaks though.

And why shouldn't I wear a Rage Against the Machine shirt? Not that I have one.

Oh, because RATM supports/supported Mumia, and the majority of steak places in Philly have signs up about supporting the officer he supposedly shot. I doubt they actually care at this point (about a RATM shirt), but it was just supposed to be a comment on their soup-naziness.

Subway now has a cheesesteak. I'm sure it's just as good.

What the fuck.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 1, 2008, 12:41 pm

*~*stragi*~* wrote:
Winnow wrote:I'll be in PA June 27th - July 2nd. If something changes and I have a spare day, I'd be happy to meet up with some VV peeps.

And despite the current single topic feud on on the VV boards, Sylvus is/was cool IRL. I can't really think of anyone who hasn't been that I've met from VV/Veeshan.
what about karae

I didn't appreciate the 2am call the night before the FF but he didn't do/say anything when I introduced myself in person. So "in person" there weren't any problems.

Stragi was flashing gang signs at me though.

You can also buy microwavable cheesesteaks at the grocery store if desperate.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 1, 2008, 1:21 pm

Rage Against the Machine has an acronym?

Well, they may as well since they have the same following as NKOTB.

And why go to Philly when you can just buy some hamburger buns and fry up some Steak-Ums? Slackasses.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » May 1, 2008, 1:23 pm

Canelek wrote:Rage Against the Machine has an acronym?

Well, they may as well since they have the same following as NKOTB.

And why go to Philly when you can just buy some hamburger buns and fry up some Steak-Ums? Slackasses.

You've never had a cheesesteak from Philly, have you?

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 1, 2008, 1:32 pm

Nope! But all this talk makes me want to fly out there. I saw a thing on FoodTV before about Pat's a few years ago..that looked pretty fucking good.

And I was kidding about the steak-ums, unless you have been salt-deprived for about 15 years.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » May 1, 2008, 1:42 pm

Yeah, the two political causes are:

Support Daniel Faulkner (the murdered police officer)
and
Speak English (although they don't actually enforce it, they just have a sign)

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 1, 2008, 1:46 pm

What if you don't like cops and enjoy foreign cultures? No dice?

How about if I get a Flyers tattoo and call them racist assholes?

...

Actually, I would rather not say anything and just have a nice sammich.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 1, 2008, 1:53 pm

Canelek wrote:What if you don't like cops and enjoy foreign cultures? No dice?

How about if I get a Flyers tattoo and call them racist assholes?

...

Actually, I would rather not say anything and just have a nice sammich.

No cheesesteak for you!

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 1, 2008, 2:19 pm

Post by **Sylvus** » May 1, 2008, 2:24 pm

I just ate a delicious cheesesteak for lunch!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 1, 2008, 2:27 pm

I got cockblocked on the cheesesteak again, the carpool buddy opted to go out to a Chinese buffet with guys from his group.

Tomorrow I drive... tomorrow... CHEESESTEAK!

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » May 1, 2008, 7:25 pm

Unban Cartalas.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » May 1, 2008, 7:30 pm

Unfuck Metanis.