McCain-Lieberman 2008?.. I always liked Joe... Odd that we could go from Darth Cheney to Darth Sidious.Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), the Democratic Party’s 2000 vice presidential nominee, is leaving open the possibility of giving a keynote address on behalf of Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) at the Republican National Convention in September.
Republicans close to the McCain campaign say Lieberman’s appearance at the convention, possibly before a national primetime audience, could help make the case that the presumptive GOP nominee has a record of crossing the aisle. That could appeal to much-needed independent voters.
McCain has yet to ask Lieberman to speak, either in primetime or elsewhere, at the convention. But if McCain thinks it will help make his case for the White House, as some of his allies suspect, Lieberman would be willing to speak on his behalf.
“If Sen. McCain, who I support so strongly, asked me to do it, if he thinks it will help him, I will,” Lieberman said in a brief interview.
Lieberman said he doubts McCain will ask him to give a keynote address, but acknowledges the subject has yet to come up in the two senators’ discussions.
A Lieberman aide said even though there are no plans for the Independent to give a speech at the convention, it is a “likely possibility” he will address the Republican audience in some form.
Appearing before the Republican convention carries some risk for Lieberman. His Democratic colleagues could seek retribution by taking away his gavel on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee next Congress.
Lieberman has had a long leash this Congress because his decision to caucus with Democrats — despite losing Connecticut’s 2006 Democratic primary — allows them to hold their narrow 51-49 majority. If Democrats pick up more seats as expected in November, and Lieberman angers Democrats along the campaign trail, some privately expect there might be an attempt to deny him his bid to retain his chairmanship.
One Democratic leadership aide said losing his chairmanship could happen in that scenario, but “the bar would have to be very high.”
That’s because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has a close relationship with Lieberman.
Unlike a number of Democratic colleagues who backed Lieberman’s challenger Ned Lamont after the 2006 primary, Reid offered words of praise for the senator, saying he would not “turn on Joe.” Reid called Lieberman and promised him a chairmanship if he won reelection, a move that angered some Lamont supporters.
Even though Reid may not need Lieberman next Congress to claim a Senate majority, he told Lieberman in private conversations that he would protect his seniority.
“I can tell you Sen. Reid had talked to me a few times and said he knows there will be talk if we get more than 51 Democrats next year,” Lieberman told The Hartford Courant this month. “As far as he is concerned, I will retain my seniority, et cetera, no matter how many Democrats there are next year.”
Jim Manley, a Reid spokesman, said he would not comment on the senator’s private conversations, but acknowledged that the two men spoke.
When asked Tuesday if Lieberman’s chairmanship was at risk next Congress, Reid said succinctly: “No.”
“We have one difference of opinion, maybe two with Sen. Lieberman,” said Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), a prominent supporter of Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) presidential candidacy. “As a whip, I can tell you time and again, he’s been there when we’ve needed him.”
Lieberman, a staunch Iraq war supporter, has taken the Democratic Party to task for its push to withdraw from Iraq, likening that approach to surrendering to al Qaeda. He has called for aggressive action against Iran and pushed measures that some Democrats have likened to war-mongering.
He continues to criticize the Democratic candidates for their foreign policy positions, and says the party has jettisoned its tradition of being strong on defense by pandering to its liberal base.
Making those points to a Republican audience in front of national primetime viewers would make a strong case for McCain’s candidacy, which is based largely on his national security experience, Republicans say.
“I think it would be a great idea,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), McCain’s closest Hill ally. “If you looked at economic issues and social issues, I bet you we disagree a vast majority of the time. But when you look at what the primary job of what a United States senator is in the age in which we live, we have pretty much universal agreement — and that’s to protect the homeland.”
“I think Sen. Lieberman would be a very powerful spokesperson,” said Sen. Mel Martinez (Fla.), a former general chairman of the Republican National Committee. “I think he really is someone who helps Sen. McCain break through to independent voters.”
Lieberman’s presence could potentially anger some social conservatives because of his positions supporting abortion rights and other liberal values. But Lieberman’s arguments that McCain is best suited to lead the country at a time of war would override those objections, said Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), a hero of the religious right.
“If he’s talking about security issues, Iran, Joe is fabulous on those issues,” Brownback said.
But the extent of his criticism on Democrats could bring back memories of 2004, when Georgia Democratic Sen. Zell Miller gave a scathing keynote speech attacking Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), the party’s presidential nominee. Miller, who was planning to retire from the Senate at the end of 2004, had little to lose by crossing his party.
Kerry declined to comment on Lieberman, but called Miller’s speech “hysterical and inaccurate.”
Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) said he doubts Lieberman would give a Miller-like speech.
“I don’t think he’s going to act like that if he does that,” Brown said. “But of course, I would be disappointed if he does that.”
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Lieberman at the GOP Convention?
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Lieberman is pretty much the biggest cocksucker on the planet. He, Tipper Gore and thier PMRC cronies can pretty much diaf, imo.
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I hate Lieberman only slightly less than the shit-for-brains morons in Connecticut that elected this turncoat douche in 2006.
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Hate?
I like him for standing up against the party line. Just like McCain they both try to enact law that will benefit the American people based on how they feel about the topic at hand versus what the party says they should do. I don't always agree with everything they do, but it's very admirable. Politicans like this make me think a viable independant party is a possibility someday.
I like him for standing up against the party line. Just like McCain they both try to enact law that will benefit the American people based on how they feel about the topic at hand versus what the party says they should do. I don't always agree with everything they do, but it's very admirable. Politicans like this make me think a viable independant party is a possibility someday.
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Well, sure it is great to have someone speak their mind.... unfortunately, this guy spends most of his time slapping warning labels on video games.
Marge Schott(sp) was great at speaking her mind as well. Doesn't mean I would have wanted her in control of anything, much less a baseball team.
Marge Schott(sp) was great at speaking her mind as well. Doesn't mean I would have wanted her in control of anything, much less a baseball team.
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OMG! Labels on video games?!?!?! A tool to help out of touch parents know what kind of content is in the game before they buy it?!?!?!? HOLY SHIT!!! HANG THE MUTHER FUCKER!!!!
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I don't think the rating system needs to be altered. The rating system gives you a very accurate idea of what the game is like, and the internet can be used to get more in depth detail if desired. Anyone that says that there needs to be more than that is a irresponsible parent that wants someone else to watch their child's behavior for them, or a douchebag politician.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:OMG! Labels on video games?!?!?! A tool to help out of touch parents know what kind of content is in the game before they buy it?!?!?!? HOLY SHIT!!! HANG THE MUTHER FUCKER!!!!
Minnesota is currently (for like the 2nd or 3rd time) trying to pass a law to fine a minor 50$ for buying a game that's rated M. I think even that law is retarded, being as the store they buy it from is supposed to check their ID before selling it to them, much like tobacco or alcohol, and if they buy it online how the hell would any law enforcement person ever know?
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So you are pro-censorship?Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:OMG! Labels on video games?!?!?! A tool to help out of touch parents know what kind of content is in the game before they buy it?!?!?!? HOLY SHIT!!! HANG THE MUTHER FUCKER!!!!
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miir wrote:So you are pro-censorship?Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:OMG! Labels on video games?!?!?! A tool to help out of touch parents know what kind of content is in the game before they buy it?!?!?!? HOLY SHIT!!! HANG THE MUTHER FUCKER!!!!
What?
Are you for removing the ratings for movies? Instead of jumping to some power word like censorship....try an appropriate analogy on for size. Have a nice day.
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Don't know much about Lieberman do ya?
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Actually, the PMRC was quite pro-censorship. The video game bit was a natural progression. While video game ratings can indeed be useful for parents to gauge content, the original "movement" was simply because these god-fearin' PMRC folks were just plain offended.
Of course you and cartalas-junior are just trolling, as usual.
viva la revolucion-lite, eh?
Of course you and cartalas-junior are just trolling, as usual.
viva la revolucion-lite, eh?
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I replied to your statement about labels on video games.Canelek wrote:Actually, the PMRC was quite pro-censorship. The video game bit was a natural progression. While video game ratings can indeed be useful for parents to gauge content, the original "movement" was simply because these god-fearin' PMRC folks were just plain offended.
Of course you and cartalas-junior are just trolling, as usual.
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I wasn't trolling, I was trying to toss myCanelek wrote:Actually, the PMRC was quite pro-censorship. The video game bit was a natural progression. While video game ratings can indeed be useful for parents to gauge content, the original "movement" was simply because these god-fearin' PMRC folks were just plain offended.
Of course you and cartalas-junior are just trolling, as usual.
viva la revolucion-lite, eh?
Edit: haven't really been in a trolling mood today, but if that's what you want by all means tell me.
Re: Lieberman at the GOP Convention?
Lieberman wanted more than just labels on video games, he wanted to ban a lot of them at one point. The guy is a piece of shit. How he keeps getting elected baffles me. He must be getting some serious cash under the table. I would vote for Hillary before I would vote for Lieberman and thinking about voting for Hillary really curdles my stomach.
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