School cancels Veteran event, says too political

[Funkmasterr]

It appears so, however my stance is still the same, so I'm not sure that your pointing that out changes anything.

It changes it because the discussion at hand is/was about the claim that the mandatory testing implemented by Republicans (No Child Left Behind) is working out "phenomenally well", which led to someone who disagrees with that statement making the claim that teaching for the tests is harmful to education in general. Your experience was that it really didn't change anything for you. If you had been in school while NCLB were in effect, your anecdotal evidence of what changed or did not change might be a valuable contribution to the discussion. Since you weren't, the fact that "the classes and the level of challenge in those classes was no different before or after [you] started taking standardized tests" is irrelevant; we all took standardized tests. What none of us took (afaik; I don't think anyone participating in this discussion was in secondary school after 2002) were the tests implemented by NCLB that people claim are setting education in this country back instead of improving it.

Edit: My younger brothers went through those extra tests and from what I understand it was just more of the same standardized testing bs, that anybody who finished 6th grade should be able to pass.

What high school/school district did you and your brothers attend? Honest question, I'd like to try and look up information on it before continuing.

My assumption being that your school was probably not one of the under-resourced schools that generally are the ones who have complaints with NCLB.

Here's something that you might find interesting that I came across while researching this topic:

Ironically, states that set high standards risk having the most schools labeled "failing" under NCLB. Thus Minnesota, where eighth graders are first in the nation in mathematics and on a par with the top countries in the world, had 80 percent of schools on track to be labeled failing according to the federal rules.

I'm unfamiliar with that web site, a quick scan of the headlines on the front page make it appear to be left-leaning, but there are some interesting numbers and comparisons in that article nonetheless.

I agree with you that may have invalidated me using myself as example, but I still keep the same opinion on what boog/mid were discussing.

I went to Wayzata Senior High. My high school was brand new and probably the size of some college campuses, it's probably the wealthiest, or second wealthiest school in the entire state, so your assumption would probably be correct. However I don't know how the school does for test scores

However, starting about my 10th grade year we did start shipping in students from bad neighborhoods in minneapolis because their parents felt that their children should be given the same education that we were receiving. Don't get me started on how absurd that is/was.

[Nick]

Hey dipshit: Of course you need to be skeptical of what they tell you. That in no ways means that them telling you that you are wrong is evidence that you are right.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Now, this is a High School so things are a little different. But, I don't think we should be celebrating death and destruction as a laudable ideal to young students.

HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH


Are you serious? Do you watch TV or read anything at all? Do you walk through a mall or any store? Not celebrate violence and death? Our economy generates BILLIONS of dollars each year from doing nothng BUT celebrating death and destruction. You can't find me a stretch of 3 houses in the United States that does not have at least one gaming console or PC with at least one FPS or other violent game on it. You can't drive 1 mile down any stretch of any actual city without finding a store that has a multitude of said games in them. I am not even going to touch on other violent action type toys.


This is just a handful of liberal whiners looking to bitch about something and they chose to make a political stand out of vets coming to speak. Oh noes they are going to brainwash my Jimmy into voting GOP! Here is a news flash there you tards.....a good 75% of those people they would be coming to talk to will not be eligible voters for the election. What a great master stroke by the politicians to target people who are unable to vote....great use of resources. Military people are generally nowhere near as politically motivated as message board tards. If a liberal president had ordered them into Iraq or Afghanistan they would have gone and done the same job with the same dedication as they are for a conservative.

Pretty much every war except for the Middle East of the last decade or so have begun with a Democrat in the office. For some reason though, it seems they only protest and cry when it is a GOP candidate there though....see also Nixon, Ricky and Bush, George x2.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

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