Blowing triggered spawns

Aedryn · Post by **Aedryn** » July 15, 2002, 3:49 am

Is it me or does everyone else get pissed off when people blow spawns on purpose??

Zvenn Eaglefist · Post by **Zvenn Eaglefist** » July 15, 2002, 4:03 am

well i guess it depends if i was planning on killing that mob and someone blew it maybe but otherwise not really

Aedryn · Post by **Aedryn** » July 15, 2002, 4:44 am

I mean when a guild has no chance of killing a mob yet just try to anyway purely so no other guilds can......to me that is childish and very lame

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 15, 2002, 7:46 am

Been waiting for this post to appear sooner or later. From what I understand the group you were refering to was gonna make an honest attempt from what someone in your circle was telling me, then I heard it was blown on purpose.

So give us more details so we can get started analizing this. (yes spelling )

Ninan

Aedryn · Post by **Aedryn** » July 15, 2002, 8:19 am

I'm not giving details as it was a general grip...it has been done a few times so I just wanted to see what people thought about it happening.

Dalmoth · Post by **Dalmoth** » July 15, 2002, 10:44 am

What is there to talk about, people have been screwing each other over since velious was released with reasonable regularity. I do believe many of those instances were hashed out here as well.

To assume that others wouldn't follow the lead of those before them is assasanine.

Now, it should also be understood that folks DO have to learn some encounters, but to just do something on purpose to fuck with someone else is pretty much the definition of scum in my book.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 15, 2002, 10:48 am

Hard to really prove that somebody blew a spawn on purpose.

I have no idea even who this is about, but just because AoW kicked somebody's ass around Kael doesnt mean anything.

You can't even spawn AoW unless you can beat a mob that is tough, so not exactly a band of gimps gonna waste that spawn.

but in general yes it is stupid to blow a spawn so nobody can get loots.

but petty greed is something that comes out of a lot of otherwise normal people within the context of this game

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 15, 2002, 12:02 pm

All this talk of Blowing. I am surprised that Revs isn't in here yet. Whole groups of people blowing mobs when there are plenty of other players begging to be blown.

Karae · Post by **Karae** » July 15, 2002, 12:24 pm

The people aren't the problem. Well, they are, but there is no hope of changing their behavior. The problem is Verant's lack of insight into human nature. Triggered spawns should be set up to prevent people from intentionally blowing them. Much the way glyphed, Exiled, and Cursed are set up. AoW could easily be done this way; if you don't kill AoW, trigger respawns 90 minutes later. This spawn has bugged me since we started attempting AoW. Yes, in a perfect world, this spawn is a great idea. In the real world, where people blow triggers for the fun of it or out of spite, it's a terrible one. Much like Communism, as it were. Human nature has a way of making idealists look like complete idiots.

Xaem · Post by **Xaem** » July 15, 2002, 12:24 pm

Well its all a matter of opinion really. One guild can look at a rival guild that beat them to an AoW spawn, and watch them lose. If they can beat it they are in authority to say 'Man, what a wasted AoW spawn'. If they cant, they arent in much of a position to say jack shit.

Aedryn · Post by **Aedryn** » July 15, 2002, 12:53 pm

Yeah but it's pretty bad when they attempt with 34 people and give a tell saying "hahah we are gonna blow the spawn so u guys can;t get aow"...........kinda makes it tad obvious hey

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » July 15, 2002, 5:55 pm

it was SS/soft rhyme

thx guys!

zotha · Post by **zotha** » July 16, 2002, 1:15 am

I have to agree with Karae, there is several ways that this spawn cycle could be handled that would remove the problem but Verant choose to leave it and create more tension amongst players. Its good how artificially limiting drops entering the world is more important then having players get along with each other.

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » July 16, 2002, 2:18 am

Statue? Fucking tough? You got to be kidding me. I can kill that fucker along with vindi at the same time with 1 spell. Im not kidding either. Did it before^^ was on accdent tho.

Was upset for a while when coe would go for cursed. I couldnt get my daily PKing on cause they couldnt finnish the spawn =/. At least now they somewhat fixed that spawn.

zotha · Post by **zotha** » July 16, 2002, 4:26 am

We only fought the cycle once before it was fixed Raist, and that was the day after the patch where cursed got nerfed into doability (which had been announced about 7 patches earlier but never done). We certainly never went there trying to intentionally blow cursed for you.

In any case, Cursed cycle was fixed to prevent people being dicks and blowing it, AOW cycle could be fixed just as easily.

Vippa · Post by **Vippa** » July 16, 2002, 5:19 am

that sucks doesnt it?

/vippa

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » July 16, 2002, 8:46 am

Yea I know you didnt blow the spawn on purpose

I was just saying! Besides I sure dont think CoE and I have bad blood! Well till I kill your whole guild in the arena again TT

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 16, 2002, 11:29 am

Raistin [FoH] wrote:Statue? Fucking tough? You got to be kidding me. .

no statue is not tough. i forgot that when we fought idol we fought him unslowed to practice for AoW, which is why my impression of him is that he is tougher than a statue clone.

and he is in a seperate class from a mob like AoW, no question.

i guess i was trying to say that i dont think it is by definition unreasonable for a group of 35 or so to think they have a shot at AoW. They obviously can't suck, but i think it is doable, especially 7 months into Luclin, with the potentially massive mana pools clerics may have.

Homercles · Post by **Homercles** » July 16, 2002, 11:57 am

I Wish I were a triggered mob. Then I'd get blown more often.

Neroon · Post by **Neroon** » July 16, 2002, 3:50 pm

I have to agree with Karae. Verant is the only problem in this situation. Hell, they are the only problem with the bulk of "end-game" guild fighting.

People just seem to prefer fighting with each other, over taking it to Verant. I get the impression that people think Verant is their boss, allowing them to play EQ. We pay Verant to entertain us, and they are supposed to grovel at our feet in doing it.

Ironically, if SS/SR blowing the spawn gets enough people to bitch at Verant, they are actually doing the players a service....

In the meantime, it's only one spawn, there's plenty of other things to kill.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 16, 2002, 3:54 pm

Neroon wrote:I have to agree with Karae. Verant is the only problem in this situation. Hell, they are the only problem with the bulk of "end-game" guild fighting.

People just seem to prefer fighting with each other, over taking it to Verant. I get the impression that people think Verant is their boss, allowing them to play EQ. We pay Verant to entertain us, and they are supposed to grovel at our feet in doing it.

i theory, sure that is correct, but they are of the same customer service school as your local cable provider.

and that is "i dare you to cancel".

and people don't.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 16, 2002, 5:32 pm

LOL Homer

/agree

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