Wireless router question

[Chidoro]

I have comcast's blast service and wanted to get a wireless router for the impending purchase of my 360. Which ones are found to be effective and if they have comcast, did they go with using their home network setup or do it on their own.

[Funkmasterr]

I have comcast's blast service and wanted to get a wireless router for the impending purchase of my 360. Which ones are found to be effective and if they have comcast, did they go with using their home network setup or do it on their own.

I have Comcast. I use a Linksys Wireless G router w/ Signal boost (could get you the exact model number later if you want) and haven't had any issues. I have WPA security set up on it with some absurd key length, and I also use MAC address filtering, but it worked without this on as well. I have suggested this router to friends who have needed one w/ their 360 as well and I haven't heard any complaints from them. Oh, and it's on the same network as everything else too.


Interestingly enough, I actually ran into some issues w/ having to change settings to get things working w/ my router when I got my Wii, but was still able to get it working after some headaches.

[cadalano]

get a Linksys Wireless G router- the exact same that Funk has. I have the same model.

I strongly recommend it because.. aside from its good performance... If you DO have any issues, finding help for that model of router is relatively easy because it is extremely popular and the Linksys router admin interface is well known. I went through 3 routers in a 2 week period from well known brands that I thought were a bargain but ended up having problems with virtually no support to help me. Finally picked up the Linksys model and its been great for 1.5 years

[Lynks]

I'll just confirm what the last 2 people said. The Linksys Wireless G router is amazing and I have no issues with it. There is also a ton of information on the net to trouble shoot anything IF you need it.

[Fash]

Also, set it up yourself (don't let some idiot from comcast do it)... it will be pretty painless. Configure the security (don't run an open network) and you'll be up and running quickly.

As far as troubleshooting, they're just like a computer once it's configured and working... if you have a problem just pull the plug out for a few seconds. I infrequently have to do this with mine.

[Funkmasterr]

Also, set it up yourself (don't let some idiot from comcast do it)... it will be pretty painless. Configure the security (don't run an open network) and you'll be up and running quickly.

As far as troubleshooting, they're just like a computer once it's configured and working... if you have a problem just pull the plug out for a few seconds. I infrequently have to do this with mine.

Yeah I'm not real savvy on networking but I set mine up manually as well, partially because I just wanted to learn more

I have found the only time that I have had to reset my router like fash said is when I have downloaded torrents, particularly if I have had Utorrent open for a few days. I think this might be due to Utorrent opening a bunch of ports and not closing them after you clear the downloads, or even after you close the program, but I could be totally off base too.

[cadalano]

the linksys utility that came with mine basically set it up automatically in a few button clicks, including the WEP security. definitely dont run without security... people will piggyback your shit.. I know I did. Nothing like scanning for networks on your laptop and seeing someone set up with the default network name and zero security :}

[Funkmasterr]

the linksys utility that came with mine basically set it up automatically in a few button clicks, including the WEP security. definitely dont run without security... people will piggyback your shit.. I know I did. Nothing like scanning for networks on your laptop and seeing someone set up with the default network name and zero security :}

WEP security wasn't much better for me. People in my apt. building still found ways to get into my connection, which hasn't happened since I upped it to WPA.

[Boogahz]

I don't have Comcast (at least THEY offer GolTV ), but I do have the Linksys Wireless-G router as well!

[noel]

There's a thread with a lot of information on this topic in the computing forum:
http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... up#p241188

All of the information there is applicable regardless of your ISP or what device you're connecting to the router. From the perspective of your ISP/router, an XBox 360 is no different than a PS2, PS3, X-box, Wii, PC, Mac, PDA with wifi support, VoIP phone/device, etc. It's all the same.

[Funkmasterr]

There's a thread with a lot of information on this topic in the computing forum:
http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... up#p241188

All of the information there is applicable regardless of your ISP or what device you're connecting to the router. From the perspective of your ISP/router, an XBox 360 is no different than a PS2, PS3, X-box, Wii, PC, Mac, PDA with wifi support, VoIP phone/device, etc. It's all the same.

I completely disagree, there is actually a list somewhere of routers that will not work with a 360, and some that you have to mess with a ton more settings to get things working smoothly ( keep in mind I am saying this without re-reading the thread you are referencing.)

[noel]

There's a thread with a lot of information on this topic in the computing forum:
http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... up#p241188

All of the information there is applicable regardless of your ISP or what device you're connecting to the router. From the perspective of your ISP/router, an XBox 360 is no different than a PS2, PS3, X-box, Wii, PC, Mac, PDA with wifi support, VoIP phone/device, etc. It's all the same.

I completely disagree, there is actually a list somewhere of routers that will not work with a 360, and some that you have to mess with a ton more settings to get things working smoothly ( keep in mind I am saying this without re-reading the thread you are referencing.)

I was referencing the thread more for the initial setup and how to secure his network than anything else i.e. change default password, change default SSID, set it to non-broadcast, don't use WEP unless you absolutely have to WPA/WPA2 are MUCH more secure... stop me if you've heard this one...

I could set up a Linux box with two NICs that would route for the 360 just fine. This list doesn't really say anything other than MS has logoed a bunch of routers; and that there are a few (extremely old) routers that don't work, but there's no technical basis listed. I'm sure they're only logoing NAT devices that support wireless protocols the 360 supports, and they're likely only logoing UPNP devices to make the configuration as easy as possible, but that DOES NOT mean that other (current) routers wouldn't work and really doesn't mean anything at all. I realize that might be blowing your mind, but there's nothing particularly special about it.

Edit: This document (downloadable word document) details the specifics of what's required to get your ISP/Router/Wireless device logoed for the 360. As I suspected, you have to be able to do NAT correctly, and either fully support UPNP or allow for a specific set of ports to be opened. As I said, there's nothing special about it for any modern piece of home networking gear.

[Chidoro]

Thanks for all of the info. As far as the product is concerned, I'll probably get the linksys that's going for around $80.

As far as securing is concerned, this will be hooked up to a semi-old desktop and will need it only for 360 use, my work laptop when i'm home sick, and my wife's work laptop when she needs to work from home. I don't think i'd need the wireless to be active all of the time as I wouldn't really have much time to use xbox live and my wife and I's work scenario from home is also infrequent.

I'm going to read up on all of the great links provided before I ask any more questions. This is all really appreciated as I want to slip this in as seamlessly as possible so I don't hear it from the other half.