You thought the rape was painful?

[Fash]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... |0|1|0|0#6

A court in the ultra-conservative kingdom of Saudi Arabia is punishing a female victim of gang rape with 200 lashes and six months in jail, a newspaper reported on Thursday.

The 19-year-old woman -- whose six armed attackers have been sentenced to jail terms -- was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape," the Arab News reported.

But in a new verdict issued after Saudi Arabia's Higher Judicial Council ordered a retrial, the court in the eastern town of Al-Qatif more than doubled the number of lashes to 200.

A court source told the English-language Arab News that the judges had decided to punish the woman further for "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."

Saudi Arabia enforces a strict Islamic doctrine known as Wahhabism and forbids unrelated men and women from associating with each other, bans women from driving and forces them to cover head-to-toe in public.

Last year, the court sentenced six Saudi men to between one and five years in jail for the rape as well as ordering lashes for the victim, a member of the minority Shiite community.

But the woman's lawyer Abdul Rahman al-Lahem appealed, arguing that the punishments were too lenient in a country where the offence can carry the death penalty.

In the new verdict issued on Wednesday, the Al-Qatif court also toughened the sentences against the six men to between two and nine years in prison.

The case has angered members of Saudi Arabia's Shiite community. The convicted men are Sunni Muslims, the dominant community in the oil-rich Gulf state.

Lahem, also a human rights activist, told AFP on Wednesday that the court had banned him from handling the rape case and withdrew his licence to practise law because he challenged the verdict.

He said he has also been summoned by the ministry of justice to appear before a disciplinary committee in December.

Lahem said the move might be due to his criticism of some judicial institutions, and "contradicts King Abdullah's quest to introduce reform, especially in the justice system."

King Abdullah last month approved a new body of laws regulating the judicial system in Saudi Arabia, which rules on the basis of sharia, or Islamic law.

In other words, if you get raped in Saudi Arabia, don't report it!

What a backwards ass country.

[Nick]

Fucking disgusting. What a shithole. (Remember who are our supposed allies and enemies in that region btw).

[Sylvus]

There was a pretty strict muslim guy who worked at our company a while back. When there were off-site meetings he wouldn't drive in a car with women, and if he had to have a one-on-one meeting with his female manager, he always insisted that the door not be shut.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Fucking disgusting. What a shithole.

You're growing up right before me own eyes. I'm tearing up a bit. I'm so proud of you.

[Zaelath]

Fucking disgusting. What a shithole.

You're growing up right before me own eyes. I'm tearing up a bit. I'm so proud of you.

I don't hear you suggesting you should roll into Saudi Arabia, I did however hear a lot of bullshit rhetoric that suggested women had it this bad in Iraq, when it was the most progressive country in the middle east as far as women's rights.

You're getting dumber right before my own eyes, I'm choking up a bit, I think I'm going to puke.

[Zaelath]

In other words, if you get raped in Saudi Arabia, don't report it!

What a backwards ass country.

Indeed, and now let's have a little talk about how I can smoke it in my back yard and never see a cop, smoke it in my front yard and get a fine. Where as you can't even smoke it in your basement without having to fear a random drug test at work, and possibly years in jail. What a backwards ass country.

They have their law, you have yours, and if you were a woman and were going to pick where to live based on the law, I would keep looking.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Fucking disgusting. What a shithole.

You're growing up right before me own eyes. I'm tearing up a bit. I'm so proud of you.

I don't hear you suggesting you should roll into Saudi Arabia, I did however hear a lot of bullshit rhetoric that suggested women had it this bad in Iraq, when it was the most progressive country in the middle east as far as women's rights.

You're getting dumber right before my own eyes, I'm choking up a bit, I think I'm going to puke.

I must be getting dumber, because I cannot decipher your point here at all.

[Aabidano]

...if he had to have a one-on-one meeting with his female manager, he always insisted that the door not be shut.

That was standard policy when I worked or the Govt, I'd still consider it today if I had female subordinates.

[Nick]

You're growing up right before me own eyes. I'm tearing up a bit. I'm so proud of you.

You're a fucking idiot.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

You're growing up right before me own eyes. I'm tearing up a bit. I'm so proud of you.

You're a fucking idiot.

*wink*

[Wulfran]

...if he had to have a one-on-one meeting with his female manager, he always insisted that the door not be shut.

That was standard policy when I worked or the Govt, I'd still consider it today if I had female subordinates.

Thats been standard policy for most major corporations up here (regardless of whether the supervisor or subordinate is female) for over a decade: it all started with the first sexual harassment suits. At one oil company I worked for, they had ALL employees undergo a full day sexual harassment awareness seminar, where we were told that coming within 3 feet of a member of the opposite sex could be construed as invading their personal space, and starting a conversation about anything outside the normal bounds of the work environment could be considered intrusive. Call it Cover Your Ass vs Sexual Harassment suits but the corporate world took the threat of those suits pretty seriously (even if most women and men I`ve worked with thought that those guidelines from the seminar I attended were laughable over-reactions).

[Hesten]

...if he had to have a one-on-one meeting with his female manager, he always insisted that the door not be shut.

That was standard policy when I worked or the Govt, I'd still consider it today if I had female subordinates.

Thats been standard policy for most major corporations up here (regardless of whether the supervisor or subordinate is female) for over a decade: it all started with the first sexual harassment suits. At one oil company I worked for, they had ALL employees undergo a full day sexual harassment awareness seminar, where we were told that coming within 3 feet of a member of the opposite sex could be construed as invading their personal space, and starting a conversation about anything outside the normal bounds of the work environment could be considered intrusive. Call it Cover Your Ass vs Sexual Harassment suits but the corporate world took the threat of those suits pretty seriously (even if most women and men I`ve worked with thought that those guidelines from the seminar I attended were laughable over-reactions).

Damn, thats pretty harsh. At work im used to a pretty free tone, we can usually make sexual jokes with just about anything, evne to our female boss

[Zaelath]

...if he had to have a one-on-one meeting with his female manager, he always insisted that the door not be shut.

That was standard policy when I worked or the Govt, I'd still consider it today if I had female subordinates.

Thats been standard policy for most major corporations up here (regardless of whether the supervisor or subordinate is female) for over a decade: it all started with the first sexual harassment suits. At one oil company I worked for, they had ALL employees undergo a full day sexual harassment awareness seminar, where we were told that coming within 3 feet of a member of the opposite sex could be construed as invading their personal space, and starting a conversation about anything outside the normal bounds of the work environment could be considered intrusive. Call it Cover Your Ass vs Sexual Harassment suits but the corporate world took the threat of those suits pretty seriously (even if most women and men I`ve worked with thought that those guidelines from the seminar I attended were laughable over-reactions).

Damn, thats pretty harsh. At work im used to a pretty free tone, we can usually make sexual jokes with just about anything, evne to our female boss

Same, and as a contractor if someone wanted to get pissy about it I wouldn't work with them any more.

Considering most relationships still start in the work place, the whole "sexual harassment" thing between peers is pretty laughable.

[Hesten]

...if he had to have a one-on-one meeting with his female manager, he always insisted that the door not be shut.

That was standard policy when I worked or the Govt, I'd still consider it today if I had female subordinates.

Thats been standard policy for most major corporations up here (regardless of whether the supervisor or subordinate is female) for over a decade: it all started with the first sexual harassment suits. At one oil company I worked for, they had ALL employees undergo a full day sexual harassment awareness seminar, where we were told that coming within 3 feet of a member of the opposite sex could be construed as invading their personal space, and starting a conversation about anything outside the normal bounds of the work environment could be considered intrusive. Call it Cover Your Ass vs Sexual Harassment suits but the corporate world took the threat of those suits pretty seriously (even if most women and men I`ve worked with thought that those guidelines from the seminar I attended were laughable over-reactions).

Damn, thats pretty harsh. At work im used to a pretty free tone, we can usually make sexual jokes with just about anything, evne to our female boss

Same, and as a contractor if someone wanted to get pissy about it I wouldn't work with them any more.

Considering most relationships still start in the work place, the whole "sexual harassment" thing between peers is pretty laughable.

Yeah, have to be able to talk to contractors and suppliers too. Most of our suppliers love working with us, due to the free tone . Hell, one of my colleagues even managed to call our main hardware suppliers sales guy a a overdressed faggot, thats just for normal saying hello

[Fash]

At my office, It's up to the girls, basically.. You just know who you can flirt with and who you can't. Some of them get sexual very quickly.

[Wulfran]

Well in all honesty as we left that seminar one of my female co-workers grabbed my arm as I was walking down the hall with another guy and said "Damn I guess no more swapping dirty jokes at the team meetings or I'll have to sue you!". Then she gave me a shot in the arm for violating her space when she leaned in to make her comment to me and the other guy. That was typical of a lot of the women I worked with: they weren't about to get all hyper-sensitive on the issue BUT it was also the way the company we worked for tried to limit their liability to sexual harassment suits (i.e. by defining some limits to our behaviour, even if they were somewhat ridiculous and no one cared to pay them much heed, if need be the corporation could claim in court they did not condone our behaviour and had policy to the contrary and briefed their employees with those policies). But while things like telling off-color jokes and random banter and friendly insults were accepted practice, you still were well aware that with things like a closed door, you can get into some dangerous ground very easily.

[Boogahz]

Well in all honesty as we left that seminar one of my female co-workers grabbed my arm as I was walking down the hall with another guy and said "Damn I guess no more swapping dirty jokes at the team meetings or I'll have to sue you!". Then she gave me a shot in the arm for violating her space when she leaned in to make her comment to me and the other guy.

One thing that is fucked up is that, if you would have been the one leaning into her and jabbing her in the arm, you could be considered to be sexually harrassing her..

[Wulfran]

Well in all honesty as we left that seminar one of my female co-workers grabbed my arm as I was walking down the hall with another guy and said "Damn I guess no more swapping dirty jokes at the team meetings or I'll have to sue you!". Then she gave me a shot in the arm for violating her space when she leaned in to make her comment to me and the other guy.

One thing that is fucked up is that, if you would have been the one leaning into her and jabbing her in the arm, you could be considered to be sexually harrassing her..

She was JOKING: she knew she had been the one "violating" someone else's space but we were good enough friends that it wasn't a big deal between us. We used to hang out a lot until she got married and pregnant and stuff.

[Boogahz]

Well in all honesty as we left that seminar one of my female co-workers grabbed my arm as I was walking down the hall with another guy and said "Damn I guess no more swapping dirty jokes at the team meetings or I'll have to sue you!". Then she gave me a shot in the arm for violating her space when she leaned in to make her comment to me and the other guy.

One thing that is fucked up is that, if you would have been the one leaning into her and jabbing her in the arm, you could be considered to be sexually harrassing her..

She was JOKING: she knew she had been the one "violating" someone else's space but we were good enough friends that it wasn't a big deal between us. We used to hang out a lot until she got married and pregnant and stuff.

I know that, and you know that. I was just saying that it was so sad that if you did the same thing, even in a joking manner, and the person did not appreciate the humor, you would be sacked.

[Tangurena]

The 19-year-old, who has not been named, was travelling in a car with a male friend last year, when the car was attacked by a gang of seven men who raped both of them.

{snip}

Four of the men were convicted of kidnapping - but the court also sentenced the woman and her friend to receive 90 lashes each for the crime of "illegal mingling".

Last week the court increased the woman's sentence to 200 lashes and six months in prison.

It also banned her lawyer from the courtroom and took away his licence.

Source
The saudi woman was beaten for getting caught in a car with a male who wasn't related to her. The rapists also raped the man. Then her sentence was doubled because she, and her lawyer, went to the media to complain about it. The lawyer has since had his license suspended.

The 19-year-old woman -- whose six armed attackers have been sentenced to jail terms -- was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape," the Arab News reported.

{snip}

The convicted men are Sunni Muslims, the dominant community in the oil-rich Gulf state.

Source
The woman is a shiite, and the rapists are sunnis. A similar comparison in the US would be black woman with white rapists. In years gone by, white men raping a black woman would likely have never gone to trial, where black men raping a white woman (or merely being accused of doing so) would become strange fruit: corpses hanging from a tree. Loving v Virginia ruled that laws prohibiting "illegal mingling" or "race mixing" were unconstitutional.

In KSA, wahabbist sunnis control the government, and shiites are a barely tolerated minority, who are seen as almost-heretics. Part of the motivation for the "must bomb Iran" movement in the US is driven by the wahabbist hatred of shiites. Wahabbism is the radical wing of Islam that most folks in the US call "islamofascism," gave us the 911 attacks and is the state religion of KSA. Take a look at the Saudi coat of arms some time - there are 2 swords on the coat of arm: one stands for the house of saud, and the second one stands for the house of wahab. The flag only has one sword representing the house of saud.

One should expect the US to do nothing about this because our president is King Abdullah's bitch:

[Siji]

The only thing missing from that picture is Bush holding onto that guy's pocket like a prison bitch.

[Boogahz]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

Saudi King Abdullah has pardoned a rape victim who had been sentenced to 200 lashes and six months in prison in a case that sparked international attention, a Saudi newspaper reported.

King Abdullah issued the royal pardon on Monday, Al-Jazirah newspaper quoted a Saudi Justice Ministry official as saying.

A Saudi court ruled the 19-year-old had an "illegitimate relationship" with a man who was not her husband, and that the rape occurred after she and the man were discovered in a "compromising situation, her clothes on the ground."

The attacks took place in Qatif in March 2006 when the woman was engaged to be married.

The case has drawn international attention, provoked outrage in the West and cast light on the treatment of women under strict Islamic law in Saudi Arabia.

The woman was meeting with a man -- described by the woman's attorney as a former friend from whom she was retrieving a photograph -- when they both were abducted last March.

Seven men were convicted in their abduction and her rape and received sentences ranging from 10 months to five years in jail.

The Saudi lawyer who represented the woman faced a disciplinary hearing for "insulting the Supreme Judicial Council and disobeying the rules and regulations" of the judiciary. The hearing has been postponed.

Abdul Rahman al-Lahem said the rape case had elicited a fierce response, including calls for his beheading.

U.S. President George W. Bush said last week that King Abdullah "knows our position loud and clear" on the case.

Under Saudi law, women are subject to numerous restrictions, including a strict dress code, a prohibition against driving and a requirement that they get a man's permission to travel or have surgery.