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One thing that bothers me about MMORPGs is the inconvenience of having to reach for F keys and in more complex games, use SHIFT, ALT and CTRL combos to use skills, spells, bring up maps, etc. As anyone who reads the Computer forums have figured out, I'm all about efficiency and creating a setup where I have to move as little as possible while operating my PC. I'm not here trying to get a workout and burn calories. I prefer ease of use!

I owned, but no longer use, the G15 keyboard. The 18 macro buttons on the left hand side are very nice for macro commands. I used them extensively in Second Life and for various MMORPGs I've checked out since leaving EverQuest.

Being a huge fan of Saitek's keyboard for it's great feeling keys, I've been looking for something that I could use for macros because the Saitek II, while outstanding for it's basic key layout for pure typing bliss, lacks any kind of extra keys save for the most important volume, mute, play/pause stop next/previous keys in the upper right corner.

I noticed Saitek's Pro Gamer Command Unit at Fry's last week and after briefly getting a feel for a demo unit, bought one and took it home to try out.

Here's what it looks like:

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It looks like something other kids may have beaten you up for using in high school.

Not deterred in my quest to burn one calorie an hour while gaming, I gave it a go!

Surprisingly, while I bought a Saitek keyboard specifically because it has the best feeling keys, this game controller's keys weren't as nice and in fact, the "5" key would catch and have to be forced down if you didn't push it directly in the middle. I also found that some of the keys stuck when being pressed and sent a double keystroke or had to be tapped to unstick them.

While a sticky "5" key and double key signals meant it was going back to Fry's, I took the time to actually test out the macro software and usability of the controller. First, while this has drivers for Vista, the actual macro programming software used with it does not work with Vista and there are no updates as of yet. I had to look elsewhere for a third party macro application and that's when I discovered Pinnacle Game Profiler.

Pinnacle Game Profiler is an outstanding third party macro programmer. It recognized the Saitek unit right away (after I installed the beta 4 version that works with Vista). Pinnacle allows you to import an image of the controller and then has an easy to use image map type system that lets you place hot spots on the image you uploaded so when you're programming your controller, the key you're programming is highlighted. Doesn't sound like much, but it works terrific and the visual aid is a big help.

I'm playing Rappelz MMORPG atm so that's going to be my example. Here's a shot of the profile window:

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A controller is only as good as the macro software used with it and Pinnacle is outstanding (remember this is third party and doesn't come with the controller).

Here's a sample macro used with Newsleecher. While browsing image groups, I like to open random images to see what they are. With newsleecher, the default doubleclick is downloading the file, not opening it, so here's a simple macro created to hit CTRL, and R to open the file instead of download it:

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The bottom part of the above image shows some of the macro options which are quite extensive.

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This is the quick "one button press" macro programming that also has quick mouse commands as well so you don't have to program macros for them. It also shows the green dot on the button I'm programming which I made myself with Pinnacles image map of your controller options!

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Easy enough to assign commands or change them after you have made your macros.

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Pinnacle will automatically recognize the game profile when you launch the game by its executable but you may also change profiles without launching games by right clicking on the tray icon. I have a general use setup that has some basic functionality (page up/down, arrow keys, cut/paste type stuff, screen saver button, etc) that I have active when not playing a game or specific app.

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My current Rappelz layout for the controller!

I really detest having to shift/alt/ctrl anything while playing a game so the one click pet keys on the top row (buttons 17-20) are a huge help during combat, especially if things go bad. I can't be scrambling for a ALT+1 if I need an emergency heal or ALT+4 if I need my pet to lose agro quickly!)

Overall, after returning the first faulty controller and getting one with a functional 5 key, here are my likes and dislikes:

PROS:

-really does help. May seem confusing but you're the one programming where the macros are going so it's not like you need to learn where they are.
-one handed functionality is very nice for games and pr0n. :twisted: (oh come on, I know you were thinking it)
-adjustable thumb part makes it pretty comfortable. It's an ergonomic thing so you need to try it yourself and give it a chance
-being able to map the mouse joystick to mouse, WASD or Arrow Keys is pretty cool. (or assign something else altogether)

CONS:

-macro software that comes with it doesn't work with Vista and is nowhere near as awesome as the Pinnacle controller software mentioned above
-high chance of getting a faulty one. I recommend not mail ordering it and opening the box at the store to make sure all the keys press down ok.
-controller has three modes but I don't use the other two which I suppose are setup for FPS and something else. (led color changes with mode...mine on blue all the time)

Conclusion: I'm keeping it but it'd be nicer of the 34.99 price included working macro software. Pinnacle is going to cost me another 19.99 after the 30 day trial and I'll most likely keep it. It's not for everyone but may appeal to serious MMORPGers with buttloads of macros and need for spells/skills etc casting. I found it nice to have maps, skills, inventory, stat windows etc mapped to keys as well. I plan on creating some macros for Photoshop and other apps possibly so it does have some appeal to non gamers or being able to macro advanced apps like Photoshop is a bonus.
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nostromo makes a decent gamepad (n52 i think). i tried one out for a few months but ultimately went back to the normal keyboard
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This looks virtually identical to the Nostromo n52 which I have been using for 5+ years.
It saved me from carpal tunnel playing bard in EQ.

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After my 30 day trial, I decided to keep the Pinnacle Game Profile Software I've been using.

Check out the activation screen entry info:

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Never seen one with so many safety checks! You get bingo numbers to enter along with color, fruit, a regular prod key type number, password...sheesh! OK already! Take my 20.00!

Great software though. It's made Rappelz much easier to play (combined with the Saitek Command Unit thingy)
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Great software though. It's made Rappelz much easier to play (combined with the Saitek Command Unit thingy)
I couldn't play a grindy game like Rappelz, without a programmable controller.

My n52 is getting a bit worn out and I'm gonna check out that Saitek controller when I'm ready to replace it.
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miir wrote:
Great software though. It's made Rappelz much easier to play (combined with the Saitek Command Unit thingy)
I couldn't play a grindy game like Rappelz, without a programmable controller.

My n52 is getting a bit worn out and I'm gonna check out that Saitek controller when I'm ready to replace it.
The problem with gamepads like this is that it takes some adjustment time. I think there'd be more options out there for these kind of gamepads but the learning curve to feel comfortable with them is longer than the patience of the end user making them tough sales or products that end up getting returned a lot.

Be sure to get this item locally as the quality control is hit and miss with some units having bad keys.

The last point is that I had to buy the Pinnacle software above because even as of today, there is no Vista software for this game pad.

So, it's tough to recommend without a lot of cautions. I do know that as soon as my trial ran out and I couldn't use the Saitek Controller thingy, I didn't play rappelz except to do some buying and selling. Reducing all the Alt and Shift combos for spells, etc makes a big difference in the grind games and makes controlling pets less of a pain.

I hope to see some new gamepads this fall.
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The other issue is that if you ever have to play on a normal setup again, for any reason, you have to relearn all over again. Not so much an issue if you are Sam Da Man and only ever play on your own rig, but a major bitch if you play on multiple machines/LAN parties/ect.
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Jice Virago wrote:The other issue is that if you ever have to play on a normal setup again, for any reason, you have to relearn all over again. Not so much an issue if you are Sam Da Man and only ever play on your own rig, but a major bitch if you play on multiple machines/LAN parties/ect.
Well that's true even with games like EQ on a normal keyboard. I changed the keyboard layout for EQ and couldn't function at all when I went to EQ FanFaire and played it on one of the computers setup there.

A better solution for these games would be to have keyboard profiles saved server side so when you logged in, it would recognize you and remap the keys. (with an easy switch to default option if someone else was playing your character)
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I like the N52. As others have said, they look similar. I thought the software that came with it was adequate for my needs.
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You just bought the mac of controllers. It's pretty, but that's just about the extent of it. The Wolf King Warrior is superior in every way possible other than looks. The N52 and Saitek design have been eclipsed in recent years by the next generation of gaming boards. They are outdated IMO.

Review of 3 gaming pads (Warrior and Saitek included)

http://hardware.gotfrag.com/portal/story/33640/

You won't find a bad review of the Wolf King Warrior. It's a damn fine product.
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The Wolf King Warrior thing doesn't look very comfy.
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Fairweather Pure wrote:You just bought the mac of controllers. It's pretty, but that's just about the extent of it. The Wolf King Warrior is superior in every way possible other than looks. The N52 and Saitek design have been eclipsed in recent years by the next generation of gaming boards. They are outdated IMO.

Review of 3 gaming pads (Warrior and Saitek included)

http://hardware.gotfrag.com/portal/story/33640/

You won't find a bad review of the Wolf King Warrior. It's a damn fine product.

wtf? I don't think I'd like that wolf thing one bit. It's keys are all the same, I'd rather have a layout where I can feel where the rows of keys are and not just a long line of keyes in a circular pattern. The saitek (and the N thing) has keys placed in a way that I know where to move my fingers easily without looking. It has very distinct locations for keys that are physically separated in a way you can easily feel for. The Wolf looks like a jumbled mess.

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A whole bunch of keys means noting if you can't find them fast. All those function keys and number keys aren't easy to quickly be selected without looking from what I can tell by looking at the image.
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You might as well just use your damn keyboard if you're using that thing!
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For me its the surface area. The Saitek and N52 look like they would be comfortable to rest your hand on long term. There is a nice curve and the ergonomics look like they are reminiscent of ergonomic mice.
The Wolf King looks like the same comfort level as resting my hand on my keyboard for hours on end. Its big and flat and I'm going to get a hand cramp at some point.
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Don't trust my opinion, just read any other review on the Net. Wolf Warrior sets the bar in both comfort and gameplay. It's pretty bad ass for any game with macros.

I use it for WoW and it's fantastic. The button layout is supreme.
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This must have been an impulse buy for you, Winnow. You seem to research most other things before you purchase them. I did a quick Google for reviews and I'm hard pressed to find a single decent review for this item. Most sites and users do not give this item a good review at all, with lack of comfort seeming to be the main reason, followed very close by lack of Vista support and just plain shitty drivers.

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Fairweather Pure wrote:This must have been an impulse buy for you, Winnow. You seem to research most other things before you purchase them. I did a quick Google for reviews and I'm hard pressed to find a single decent review for this item. Most sites and users do not give this item a good review at all, with lack of comfort seeming to be the main reason, followed very close by lack of Vista support and just plain shitty drivers.

You can still get better for less.
I have warned several times in this thread that the Saitek isn't perfect and that it can have faulty keys and also takes time to get used to. If you read this thread, you'll also see that I bought and use entirely different software (most of the screenshots are of the Pinnacle Game Profiler Software) with the Saitek as there is no working Vista software. I can't speak to lack of comfort as it's more comfortable than using a normal keyboard (for MMORPG purposes). I also mentioned on this thread that I thought these gamepad controllers were still a generation away from being ready fro prime time.

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Besides the obvious PS3 news stuff, my reviews will usually always mention the bad with the good. This review is no exception, even informing everyone that I had to replace my original due to the bad keys.

here are the pros and cons from the first post on this thread:
PROS:

-really does help. May seem confusing but you're the one programming where the macros are going so it's not like you need to learn where they are.
-one handed functionality is very nice for games and pr0n. :twisted: (oh come on, I know you were thinking it)
-adjustable thumb part makes it pretty comfortable. It's an ergonomic thing so you need to try it yourself and give it a chance
-being able to map the mouse joystick to mouse, WASD or Arrow Keys is pretty cool. (or assign something else altogether)

CONS:

-macro software that comes with it doesn't work with Vista and is nowhere near as awesome as the Pinnacle controller software mentioned above
-high chance of getting a faulty one. I recommend not mail ordering it and opening the box at the store to make sure all the keys press down ok.
-controller has three modes but I don't use the other two which I suppose are setup for FPS and something else. (led color changes with mode...mine on blue all the time)

Conclusion: I'm keeping it but it'd be nicer of the 34.99 price included working macro software. Pinnacle is going to cost me another 19.99 after the 30 day trial and I'll most likely keep it. It's not for everyone but may appeal to serious MMORPGers with buttloads of macros and need for spells/skills etc casting. I found it nice to have maps, skills, inventory, stat windows etc mapped to keys as well. I plan on creating some macros for Photoshop and other apps possibly so it does have some appeal to non gamers or being able to macro advanced apps like Photoshop is a bonus.
and later on in the thread:
So, it's tough to recommend without a lot of cautions. I do know that as soon as my trial ran out and I couldn't use the Saitek Controller thingy, I didn't play rappelz except to do some buying and selling. Reducing all the Alt and Shift combos for spells, etc makes a big difference in the grind games and makes controlling pets less of a pain.

I hope to see some new gamepads this fall.
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What I said in no way takes away from your initial review and subsequent warnings. It is a continuation of the conversation. Like I said, I was just surprised that you bought one of the crappier products on the market.
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Fairweather Pure wrote:What I said in no way takes away from your initial review and subsequent warnings. It is a continuation of the conversation. Like I said, I was just surprised that you bought one of the crappier products on the market.
It's not one of the crappier products when you compare it to what's out there. The entire selection of game pads isn't great. Just by looking at that Wolf thing, I'm not going near it. The N game pad would be close to the Saitek in performance I'd think.

The main criticism is the drivers/software which I fixed in a big way by using the 3rd party software, Pinnacle Game Profiler. Comfort is personal opinion and it's comfortable for me so I don't know what to tell you there. It's probably a big hand, small hand thing with ergonomics so if you have small hands, it may not be a good pad for you.

The proof of it's usefulness is that I won't play Rappelz without it, and didn't for the two days the Pinnacle software trial had expired and I hadn't purchased a license yet.
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And I'm saying that you're missing out on a far superior product "just because". It's the very thing you poke fun at mac users and anyone who perfers the PS3 over the 360. This is like zen vs. ipod. The informed people know the difference and buy the better product. It's just funny seeing you so dead set against the superior controller. It's very unlike you, and kind of funny at the same time.

Whatever though. I'm not here to change the world.
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You don't seem to understand that it is not just taste. The Wolf pad you posted about does not show anything that would make it better for me than using a keyboard. The number of identical keys and the layout seem to offer little. Also, the amount of desktop real estate it would take would mean reorganizing everything to use it.
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As a keyboard replacement, that Wolf King is pretty good... but it's pretty figgin huge.
10" across. By comparison, the G15 keyboard is about 21" across and the n52 is a little over 5".

Three features on the n52 that are absent on the Wolf King frisbee is the scroll wheel, 8 way pad and programmable software.

One reason I think the Wolf King gets decent reviews is because it's basically just a half keyboard. It's very easy to just put your hand on the thing and know where the keys are.
The n52 does take some getting used to but once you do, it's very comfortable. I could bard for hours and hours in EQ without any soreness or stiffness in my left hand.


For me, programmability is the single most important feature on a controller like this.
Until the wolfking adds some sort of macro programming software, I have no interest in it whatsoever.
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Boogahz wrote:You don't seem to understand that it is not just taste. The Wolf pad you posted about does not show anything that would make it better for me than using a keyboard. The number of identical keys and the layout seem to offer little. Also, the amount of desktop real estate it would take would mean reorganizing everything to use it.
It's all about layout and key access. The size difference in the keys as well as which "ring" the are located on all make for an extremely simple and intuitive design. That is it's biggest strength, followed closely by comfort. Your hand relaxes on the controller and everything is within reach of your fingertips. It even has volume control. It absolutely replaces my keyboard when I game. I have a wireless keyboard though, so I just set it aside and it's not a big deal to reorganize my workspace. I'll also note that this is as good for lefties as it is for righties.

This controller is made for nothing but gaming.

The N52 and Saitek resemble something that is designed to be used for things other than gaming. When I code from home for my job, I would consider getting one just for macro key managment, but it's lacking way too much for a dedicated gaming device.
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I appreciate anyone being passionate about something they own (if they think it's a good product).

When I think of a gamepad, I'm thinking primarily about macros. The Saitek does have the thumb mouse and can easily be used for WASD movement with keys as well, but the key layout for macros is excellent (when combined with the Pinnacle Game Profiler)

The Wolf looks like a cow pie.

I'd actually even prefer a normal keyboard for F keys to the Wolf. A keyboard that has the F keys divided into sets of 4 with some space between them makes for easy touch feel. For example, you can reach up and feel the gap between the F4 and F5 key and know where you are without looking. The circular layout of the F keys on the Wolf would not make me very confident in what key I was pressing unless I looked. With the Saitek, I can also feel the three primary rows of keys, the top angled row of keys, and the three larger keys on the left and know where I am and what I'm hitting without looking. That's what I want in a gamepad.
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Check this thing out:

http://www.maltron.com/maltron-kbd-single.html
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That would be great for cybering.
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