Young Whiney Douche Gets Tasered

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 19, 2007, 11:55 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

This guy embodies how I view many of the whiney douche bags on this forum.

Who the fuck says "ow"?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » September 19, 2007, 11:59 pm

Land of the free.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 20, 2007, 12:04 am

Nick wrote:Land of the free.

Resisting arrest.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » September 20, 2007, 12:17 am

A retardedly irrelevant and unjustifiable arrest. Last time I checked, expressing yourself wasn't a crime.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » September 20, 2007, 12:25 am

Wasn't this also added to the UCLA Taser thread? http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... 13&t=19014

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 20, 2007, 12:26 am

Nick wrote:A retardedly irrelevant and unjustifiable arrest. Last time I checked, expressing yourself wasn't a crime.

Resisting arrest is stupid. If he didn't go there with the agenda of causing a big scene and getting his own youtube video, he would have left the mic and sat back down when asked. Then again he wouldn't have asked 18 questions in succession without taking a breath and maybe even let Kerry answer. But, that wasn't his intention. He didn't care what his answers were. He wanted to get arrested.

Your comments prove exactly why I thought of the VV idiots when I saw that video. You and this guy should get a room together and suck eachothers poles while you watch the Daily Show.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » September 20, 2007, 12:28 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Nick wrote:A retardedly irrelevant and unjustifiable arrest. Last time I checked, expressing yourself wasn't a crime.
Resisting arrest is stupid. If he didn't go there with the agenda of causing a big scene and getting his own youtube video, he would have left the mic and sat back down when asked. Then again he wouldn't have asked 18 questions in succession without taking a breath and maybe even let Kerry answer. But, that wasn't his intention. He didn't care what his answers were. He wanted to get arrested.

Your comments prove exactly why I thought of the VV idiots when I saw that video. You and this guy should get a room together and suck eachothers poles while you watch the Daily Show.

The saddest thing about it all is that John Kerry was trying to answer while this happened.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » September 20, 2007, 12:32 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You and this guy should get a room together and suck eachothers poles while you watch the Daily Show.

I know you have only a few places to vent your secret desires, you have my myspace, I'm sure there should be enough "material" for you there to climax to this fantasy of yours.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 20, 2007, 12:40 am

Boogahz wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Nick wrote:A retardedly irrelevant and unjustifiable arrest. Last time I checked, expressing yourself wasn't a crime.
Resisting arrest is stupid. If he didn't go there with the agenda of causing a big scene and getting his own youtube video, he would have left the mic and sat back down when asked. Then again he wouldn't have asked 18 questions in succession without taking a breath and maybe even let Kerry answer. But, that wasn't his intention. He didn't care what his answers were. He wanted to get arrested.

Your comments prove exactly why I thought of the VV idiots when I saw that video. You and this guy should get a room together and suck eachothers poles while you watch the Daily Show.
The saddest thing about it all is that John Kerry was trying to answer while this happened.

Oh don't worry, you wouldn't have missed anything if Kerry got a chance to talk anyhow, he would have just said something about checking for a plan on his website.

I always loved the people that chose to be douchebag activists with the intention of being arrested to prove a point (then they act surprised to add to the drama factor), but even more than them I love the double-douchebags that support said douchebags right to be douchebags and cry injustice.

Trek · Post by **Trek** » September 20, 2007, 2:31 am

He wanted to cause a scene, got what he asked for....ala Cart

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » September 20, 2007, 3:38 am

He didn't deserve to be tasered. You're telling me that six uniformed officers can't contain one scrawny college kid?
And yes, this is already in the ULCA thread. It's sick, there was no reason for it, and the cops were totally out of line. He was asking questions, then they suddenly detained him for no reason.
"Oh godz, Kalduarea, he was mkaing a scene!!!1"
Whatever. That's the biggest bullshit statement I've heard in awhile. No matter who is making a scene, there is no reason to taser someone without provocation.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 20, 2007, 4:35 am

Kaldaur wrote:He didn't deserve to be tasered. You're telling me that six uniformed officers can't contain one scrawny college kid?

I've seen Captain Kirk give the command to set phasers to stun and Spock apply the old Vulcan nerve pinch to unsuspecting people doing less than this guy did.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » September 20, 2007, 6:59 am

Also I doubt he was being arrested in the beginning. The guy brought it on himself. I'm not feeling any sympathy for him because the outcome was based solely on his actions.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 20, 2007, 8:48 am

Aslanna wrote:Also I doubt he was being arrested in the beginning. The guy brought it on himself. I'm not feeling any sympathy for him because the outcome was based solely on his actions.

Two logical and common sense filled statements from you in one week. Nice. You're growing up so fast. *tears*

Abelard · Post by **Abelard** » September 20, 2007, 8:53 am

Just tried to find a transcript of what exactly he was saying/kerry was saying.

Maybe someone else would have better luck. :~

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » September 20, 2007, 9:43 am

They were wrongfully escorting him out of the place when he started yelling some bullshit about being arrested. They warned him several times that he was going to be tasered and yet he was still fighting them trying to get away and cause a scene. I feel no sympathy for that guy.

What he should have done was just leave then create a big stink afterwards to the press.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » September 20, 2007, 9:48 am

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » September 20, 2007, 10:11 am

Take a peek at this twits youtube entries, he's got a history of being antagonistic.

Spankes · Post by **Spankes** » September 20, 2007, 11:22 am

Some time before he was tasered one of the cops said that he was not being arrested and then he continued to resist. His intention was, obviously, to cause a scene. It appears the police were just trying to escort him out since he was trying to antagonize Kerry but then he started throwing a fit. The guy is a douchbag and deserved a good tasering.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » September 20, 2007, 11:28 am

Silly antagonistic individuals. If they'd just learn to keep quiet and not protest, we'd all be better off.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » September 20, 2007, 11:36 am

The kid's obviously a douchebag. I'm not a fan of that sort of blatant protest politics.

I'm also not particularly upset that he got tasered. I mean, it's just a taser, and it's actually really funny. I laughed.

That said, it doesn't seem like there was any reason to taser him. He wasn't being violent, just resistant. And it seemed like they decided to tase him at the end of the struggle, after he had become fairly submissive. If they had done it straight off the bat, it would have seemed more logical. So I do think that the police shouldn't have done it, and they should probably receive some sort of fairly minor internal sanction.

I don't see why people are so up in arms about the video. There are much bigger things to worry about.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » September 20, 2007, 11:42 am

the guy is a shitbrick but still no reason to tase him. he obviously had the intention of causing a scene and had his finger crossed that he would be manhandled off to EMBOLDEN HIS CAUSE. I doubt he expected them to tase him, but once they warned that he would be tased I imagine he WANTED it to happen. "OH NO DONT TASE ME MAN. DONT TASE ME!! FOR I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG!!! (dennis the peasant, eat your heart out) NOTHING!!!!! HELP HELP IM BEING REPRESSED"
Thats a one way ticket to bring your stunning performance to the national level. Kudos to the moron cops for delivering more than what this kid could have ever asked for. As much of a douchebag as this idiot is, which we all seem to agree on, it was the overkill reaction of the cops that empowered him. This would not be news if a taser wasnt involved.

adding to the douchery, the "ow" routine was obviously overacted. I'm sure it hurt a lot, but nobody says "ow" like that unless youre trying to garner more sympathy.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » September 20, 2007, 11:55 am

Once the cops touch you, there's really no way out but submission... Even if they had no plans to arrest him, as soon as they lay hands, you have to stop whatever you're doing... Any resistance will escalate the issue, and continue escalating it, until you stop... You do not fuck with cops. You do not flail your arms around or try and escape their grasp, unless you're willing to accept the consequences. They gave him more than enough warning.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 20, 2007, 12:00 pm

Fash wrote:Once the cops touch you, there's really no way out but submission... Even if they had no plans to arrest him, as soon as they lay hands, you have to stop whatever you're doing... Any resistance will escalate the issue, and continue escalating it, until you stop... You do not fuck with cops. You do not flail your arms around or try and escape their grasp, unless you're willing to accept the consequences. They gave him more than enough warning.

No surprise here, but I pretty much agree 100%. I learned that the hard way.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » September 20, 2007, 12:29 pm

Fash wrote:Once the cops touch you, there's really no way out but submission... Even if they had no plans to arrest him, as soon as they lay hands, you have to stop whatever you're doing... Any resistance will escalate the issue, and continue escalating it, until you stop... You do not fuck with cops. You do not flail your arms around or try and escape their grasp, unless you're willing to accept the consequences. They gave him more than enough warning.

More wisdom from Fash. He's just a regular quote machine.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 20, 2007, 1:15 pm

I would have tazer'd him again out of view.

I'm not a fan of Kerry but don't want public speaking turned into a circus by fools.

The guy could have went old school and doused himself in gasoline outside of the building Kerry was in, and lit himself on fire if he wanted to protest.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 20, 2007, 1:26 pm

Winnow wrote:I would have tazer'd him again out of view.

I'm not a fan of Kerry but don't want public speaking turned into a circus by fools.

The guy could have went old school and doused himself in gasoline outside of the building Kerry was in, and lit himself on fire if he wanted to protest.

Oh I bet if he didn't get tazed again when they were out of view he at least got a good beating. And he deserves it.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » September 20, 2007, 1:39 pm

What exactly was he protesting?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 20, 2007, 1:44 pm

Spang wrote:What exactly was he protesting?

Nothing. He is a self-serving, young, naive, misguiding young man who thinks he's saying something dep and exposing some imaginary injustice.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 20, 2007, 1:45 pm

Spang wrote:What exactly was he protesting?

I would have tazer'd you for saying that as well if you were there!

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » September 20, 2007, 1:48 pm

I thought this was going to be about the lady in the wheelchair that was tazered 20 times in under 2 minutes and was killed. I'm sure Midnyte could justify that one too though.

This was an interesting video though. After watching it, I don't believe he needed to be tazered. It was police/security frustration, nothing more. He was non-violent. Annoying? Yes. Violent? Absolutely not.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » September 20, 2007, 1:51 pm

We better cut this debate short or we'll all get tasered!

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » September 20, 2007, 3:31 pm

Fash wrote:Once the cops touch you, there's really no way out but submission... Even if they had no plans to arrest him, as soon as they lay hands, you have to stop whatever you're doing... Any resistance will escalate the issue, and continue escalating it, until you stop... You do not fuck with cops. You do not flail your arms around or try and escape their grasp, unless you're willing to accept the consequences. They gave him more than enough warning.

Heard a local cop on the radio this morning basically say this exact thing.
If you rip your arm out of their grasp, they have no idea what it is you are going to do or if you are going to escalate to violence.

He got his scene, he got his press, take your taser and dont be a pussy.

Jarori Bloodletter · September 20, 2007, 4:37 pm

Fash wrote:Once the cops touch you, there's really no way out but submission... Even if they had no plans to arrest him, as soon as they lay hands, you have to stop whatever you're doing... Any resistance will escalate the issue, and continue escalating it, until you stop... You do not fuck with cops. You do not flail your arms around or try and escape their grasp, unless you're willing to accept the consequences. They gave him more than enough warning.

Taze that fucker down i say.

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » September 20, 2007, 4:47 pm

Sueven wrote:The kid's obviously a douchebag. I'm not a fan of that sort of blatant protest politics.

I'm also not particularly upset that he got tasered. I mean, it's just a taser, and it's actually really funny. I laughed.

That said, it doesn't seem like there was any reason to taser him. He wasn't being violent, just resistant. And it seemed like they decided to tase him at the end of the struggle, after he had become fairly submissive. If they had done it straight off the bat, it would have seemed more logical. So I do think that the police shouldn't have done it, and they should probably receive some sort of fairly minor internal sanction.

I don't see why people are so up in arms about the video. There are much bigger things to worry about.

Almost exactly my thoughts too.

Post by **Sylvus** » September 20, 2007, 5:45 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Nothing. He is a self-serving, young, naive, misguiding young man who thinks he's saying something dep and exposing some imaginary injustice.

Don't forget to mention that he was young. And very youthful.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » September 20, 2007, 5:47 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNLQY3bQyaM

Another angle of the incident.

Mak · Post by **Mak** » September 20, 2007, 8:14 pm

Generally speaking, regardless of who you are or what you have to say, if you start behaving irrationally and disobeying police officers and flailing around in an auditorium with a US Senator on stage not very far away, getting tasered would be about the least you could expect. I'm guessing Kerry has a Secret Service detail for protection, and that the agents nearby had their hands on their guns ready to shoot if necessary.

Also, I heard on the radio yesterday that the kid was very civil to the police when cameras weren't around, and even told the police he had no hard feelings, and then asked if there would be cameras at the booking station where he was headed.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » September 21, 2007, 10:27 am

Dregor Thule wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNLQY3bQyaM

Another angle of the incident.

lol, awesome

Asheran Mojomaster · September 21, 2007, 11:45 am

Dregor Thule wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNLQY3bQyaM

Another angle of the incident.

Haha, that was great.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 21, 2007, 4:42 pm

http://www.winknews.com/news/weird/9906352.html

VIDEO: Woman tasered numerous times by police officer

By WINK News
OHIO - Another taser incident under is investigation, this one in Ohio.

A police officer is on paid leave after dash-cam video shows him using a taser over and over again on a woman even after she's handcuffed.

The video is disturbing and it has Warren City officials in an uproar. It shows a woman being tasered numerous times by Warren police officer Rich Kovach, who had been called to the "Up The Creek" bar back on September 2nd for a disturbance inside the night club.

After being handcuffed, the woman was placed in the back of Kovach's cruiser. At one point she can be seen trying to kick out the window of the car and Kovach tasers her again.

Afterward the video shows the woman distraught and pleading for him to stop but Kovach can be heard screaming at her.

Finally, other officers arrive at the scene and Kovach removes the woman from his car. But as she is walking out of the frame, she is tasered again.

The officer in the video is on paid administrative leave. The suspect seen getting tasered pleaded not guilty to several charges, including assault, resisting arrest and unauthorized use of a motor vehicle.

Tasering's becoming popular!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 21, 2007, 4:59 pm

Yeah, I heard about this one. I'd like to see this video and see what led up to this, but I think he has a little trigger happy problem. I think tasing her might have been just, but he sure as hell doesn't need to hold it in for so damn long. He was suspended form the police department pending an investigation. It appears to be the proper course of action.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 21, 2007, 5:34 pm

I wish they would have tasered his ass a few more times. What a fucking moron.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 21, 2007, 6:20 pm

Xyun wrote:I wish they would have tasered his ass a few more times. What a fucking moron.

I was thinking they should have tasered him in the face a couple of times, you know, a little variety at least.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » October 25, 2007, 3:50 pm

UF police cleared in 'Don't Tase me, Bro' case

http://www.miamiherald.com/top_stories/ ... 83492.html

Andrew Meyer, the University of Florida student who was Tasered by campus police in September, may have staged the disturbance in an effort to disrupt a political forum at the Gainesville campus, a state police report concludes.

The report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, released Wednesday by the university, cleared UF police of wrongdoing in subduing Meyer, 21.

Meyer, of Weston, was subdued with a Taser after he resisted arrest during a speech by 2004 Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Sen. John Kerry on Sept. 17.

Meyer, whose cry of ''Don't Tase me bro'!'' made him a cause célèbre on the Internet, declined to comment Wednesday. He has been charged with disrupting a public event and resisting arrest. The state attorney's office has not yet decided whether to prosecute.

His attorney, Robert Griscti, told The Miami Herald his client was not grandstanding.

``I think the suggestion is that he is looking for publicity when in fact everything that has happened is just the reverse.''

During the forum, Meyer peppered Kerry with questions and refused repeated requests to leave the microphone after his allotted time was up. He had asked Kerry about impeaching President George Bush, why he didn't challenge the 2004 election results and whether he and Bush were in the secret Skull and Bones society as undergraduates at Yale University.

WOULDN'T LEAVE

FDLE said in its report that police use of the Taser was appropriate because Meyer refused police orders to leave the campus auditorium. Meyer clenched a chair to keep police from removing him.

The Taser was the safest way to remove him without harming Meyer or others, the report concluded.

''While I am pleased that the FDLE review is complete, we still have work to do on a separate front,'' University of Florida President Bernie Machen wrote in a statement.

``As an academic institution, it is our responsibility to continually review -- and improve-- how we foster an open environment that is also safe for our everchanging campus community.''

In the 17-page summary of the report, FDLE said it spoke with several witnesses who said that days before the event Meyer vowed to put on ''a show'' at the Kerry event.

According to the report, during a Sept. 11 Gators for Rudy [Giuliani] rally, Meyer got into an argument with another student and told a friend that ``if he liked what he had seen that he should go to the Kerry speech and he would really see a show.''

In addition, the report said that after his arrest, when Meyer was out of view of the cameras, he told officers that they did not do anything wrong and then asked ``if cameras will be at the jail.''

THOROUGH PROBE

The FDLE report included interviews with witnesses, university employees, and video footage to make the determination that police acted properly, according to the summary.

On his website, http://www.theandrewmeyer.com, Meyer offered no statement but sought contributions to his legal defense fund.

Griscti said that although he still has to review the full 300-page report, he dismissed statements that police claim Meyer made while in police custody.

The university released only a 17-page summary on Wednesday.

''He was in the custody of police officers without anyone around him,'' Griscti said.

He also said that Meyer, a former honors student at Cypress Bay High School, is doing OK and focusing on his classes.

Whether Meyer will face criminal charges for resisting arrest and causing a disturbance will be determined in the next few days, officials said.

''It's still under review at the state attorney's office on whether criminal charges are going to be filed,'' said Spencer Mann, spokesman for Gainesville's state attorney's office.

While students at the university staged protests against the Tasering the day after it happened, students yesterday said they've had some time to reconsider whether campus police violated Meyer's right to free speech.

''A lot of people who protested obviously didn't care that much about it or they'd be out here today,'' Chris Mueller, a UF physics major, said Wednesday.

''I know I definitely feel differently than when I first saw the YouTube videos,'' he said, adding that he now thinks the officers did the right thing.

Gwen Kaster, a UF religion major, agreed.

''They should have beat him with some batons while they were at it,'' Kaster said.

ACLU DEMURS

Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, who read the FDLE report and saw the footage on youtube.com, said Meyer's arrest and Tasering were a sad statement on how heated political discourse is being discouraged on college campuses.

''Universities are the place for untidy, boisterous, rude, and offensive political debate to take place,'' said Simon, adding that Meyer should have been left alone to make his statements and ask his ''untidy'' questions, especially since Kerry appeared ready to answer them.

Simon also dismissed the findings of the FDLE report.

''When you have one Florida law enforcement agency investigating another Florida law enforcement agency, the conclusions are predictable,'' Simon said.

Miami Herald staff writer Diana Moskovitz and Kim Wilmath of the Independent Florida Alligator contributed to this report

stupid punk! I hope they prosecute.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » October 25, 2007, 3:56 pm

Fash wrote:UF police cleared in 'Don't Tase me, Bro' case

http://www.miamiherald.com/top_stories/ ... 83492.html
Andrew Meyer, the University of Florida student who was Tasered by campus police in September, may have staged the disturbance in an effort to disrupt a political forum at the Gainesville campus, a state police report concludes.

The report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, released Wednesday by the university, cleared UF police of wrongdoing in subduing Meyer, 21.

Meyer, of Weston, was subdued with a Taser after he resisted arrest during a speech by 2004 Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Sen. John Kerry on Sept. 17.

Meyer, whose cry of ''Don't Tase me bro'!'' made him a cause célèbre on the Internet, declined to comment Wednesday. He has been charged with disrupting a public event and resisting arrest. The state attorney's office has not yet decided whether to prosecute.

His attorney, Robert Griscti, told The Miami Herald his client was not grandstanding.

``I think the suggestion is that he is looking for publicity when in fact everything that has happened is just the reverse.''

During the forum, Meyer peppered Kerry with questions and refused repeated requests to leave the microphone after his allotted time was up. He had asked Kerry about impeaching President George Bush, why he didn't challenge the 2004 election results and whether he and Bush were in the secret Skull and Bones society as undergraduates at Yale University.

WOULDN'T LEAVE

FDLE said in its report that police use of the Taser was appropriate because Meyer refused police orders to leave the campus auditorium. Meyer clenched a chair to keep police from removing him.

The Taser was the safest way to remove him without harming Meyer or others, the report concluded.

''While I am pleased that the FDLE review is complete, we still have work to do on a separate front,'' University of Florida President Bernie Machen wrote in a statement.

``As an academic institution, it is our responsibility to continually review -- and improve-- how we foster an open environment that is also safe for our everchanging campus community.''

In the 17-page summary of the report, FDLE said it spoke with several witnesses who said that days before the event Meyer vowed to put on ''a show'' at the Kerry event.

According to the report, during a Sept. 11 Gators for Rudy [Giuliani] rally, Meyer got into an argument with another student and told a friend that ``if he liked what he had seen that he should go to the Kerry speech and he would really see a show.''

In addition, the report said that after his arrest, when Meyer was out of view of the cameras, he told officers that they did not do anything wrong and then asked ``if cameras will be at the jail.''

THOROUGH PROBE

The FDLE report included interviews with witnesses, university employees, and video footage to make the determination that police acted properly, according to the summary.

On his website, http://www.theandrewmeyer.com, Meyer offered no statement but sought contributions to his legal defense fund.

Griscti said that although he still has to review the full 300-page report, he dismissed statements that police claim Meyer made while in police custody.

The university released only a 17-page summary on Wednesday.

''He was in the custody of police officers without anyone around him,'' Griscti said.

He also said that Meyer, a former honors student at Cypress Bay High School, is doing OK and focusing on his classes.

Whether Meyer will face criminal charges for resisting arrest and causing a disturbance will be determined in the next few days, officials said.

''It's still under review at the state attorney's office on whether criminal charges are going to be filed,'' said Spencer Mann, spokesman for Gainesville's state attorney's office.

While students at the university staged protests against the Tasering the day after it happened, students yesterday said they've had some time to reconsider whether campus police violated Meyer's right to free speech.

''A lot of people who protested obviously didn't care that much about it or they'd be out here today,'' Chris Mueller, a UF physics major, said Wednesday.

''I know I definitely feel differently than when I first saw the YouTube videos,'' he said, adding that he now thinks the officers did the right thing.

Gwen Kaster, a UF religion major, agreed.

''They should have beat him with some batons while they were at it,'' Kaster said.

ACLU DEMURS

Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, who read the FDLE report and saw the footage on youtube.com, said Meyer's arrest and Tasering were a sad statement on how heated political discourse is being discouraged on college campuses.

''Universities are the place for untidy, boisterous, rude, and offensive political debate to take place,'' said Simon, adding that Meyer should have been left alone to make his statements and ask his ''untidy'' questions, especially since Kerry appeared ready to answer them.

Simon also dismissed the findings of the FDLE report.

''When you have one Florida law enforcement agency investigating another Florida law enforcement agency, the conclusions are predictable,'' Simon said.

Miami Herald staff writer Diana Moskovitz and Kim Wilmath of the Independent Florida Alligator contributed to this report
stupid punk! I hope they prosecute.

Yeah I have no time for retards like this, and they should prosecute him to the fullest extent they can... then again that would just give him more ammo for his bullshit.

Too bad he wasn't the at this point in his life in the 60's, he would have found a lot more people a lot more receptive to his nonsense.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » October 25, 2007, 5:56 pm

Gwen Kaster, a UF religion major, agreed.

''They should have beat him with some batons while they were at it,'' Kaster said.

Hahaha, a religion major wants to beat people. Tolerance FTW!!!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » November 6, 2007, 4:47 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

CHICAGO (AP) - Chicago's Police Department is investigating an officer's use of a Taser last month on an 82-year-old woman who was swinging a hammer when police arrived.

Officials with the city's Department on Aging went to Lillian Fletcher's home Oct. 29 to make a welfare check, and called police when they saw Fletcher in a window swinging a hammer back and forth, police spokeswoman Monique Bond said Tuesday.

Officers arrived and in an attempt to subdue Fletcher one of them used their Taser, Bond said. The department is trying to determine if the officer violated department policy regarding the use of stun guns.

Fletcher's granddaughter, Traci Taylor, told the Chicago Sun-Times that her grandmother suffers from schizophrenia and dementia.

"My grandmother is easily confused," Taylor told the newspaper, adding that the elderly woman can be belligerent but is about 5 feet 1 and no more than 160 pounds.

"I just don't think they should be Tasing 82-year-old women. That's ridiculous," Taylor said.

Police departments around the country have come under fire for the use of Tasers following several deaths.

The human rights group Amnesty International USA has voiced concerns that police departments are starting to use tasers more routinely rather than in cases of serious danger.

Don't tase me, sonny boy!

Post by **Sylvus** » November 6, 2007, 4:49 pm

Are there any accounts of people being killed by a taser? Or long-term detrimental effects suffered from being tased?

Not that I think police should just go around tasering people willy-nilly, but it's certainly a lot better than them shooting people.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 6, 2007, 8:38 pm

Sylvus wrote:Are there any accounts of people being killed by a taser? Or long-term detrimental effects suffered from being tased?

Not that I think police should just go around tasering people willy-nilly, but it's certainly a lot better than them shooting people.

I am pretty sure there are--lemme look... I know there have been some deaths in the last couple of years in Portland due to cops zapping people.

edit: Lots of Google results, but this one seemed more "news"...sure I have seen other reports. Portland cops love them some zapping homeless/deranged people.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/sto ... y_id=34506

Timothy Grant, 46, died Monday afternoon after he acted delirious, ran into traffic and engaged cops in what the Portland Police Bureau said was a struggle in the street near Northeast 23rd Avenue and Sandy Boulevard. An officer shocked him twice with a Taser. Grant lost consciousness and died while receiving medical attention from paramedics a half-hour later.

Grant’s death is the second in Oregon following a police Taser shock where no other weapon was involved. The first also occurred this year: Southern Oregon University triple-jumper Nicholas Hanson, 24, died Jan. 22 after Ashland police shocked him after he threatened suicide. His official cause of death was a drug overdose, authorities said.

The medical examiner’s office is generally called in to determine a cause of death in homicides, suspicious deaths, deaths from accidents and deaths involving police officers. And the office can come under tremendous pressure to make a particular finding.