Un-Ban Cartalas?

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Should Cartalas be un-banned?

Screw Cartalas. Keep him banned forever.
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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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Nick wrote::vv_shutup:
I have lost a lot of brain cells reading stupid posts on these boards. That is the first time you have been responsible for it, Nick. (And now I, too, am responsible for this tom-foolery)
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Now that can be considered ban worthy spam! Cart's one liners were easily dismissed by anyone able to can scan text faster than a monkey.

Cart didn't deserve to be perma banned!
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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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Winnow wrote:Now that can be considered ban worthy spam! Cart's one liners were easily dismissed by anyone able to can scan text faster than a monkey.

Cart didn't deserve to be perma banned!
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So when can we start cleansing the unbelievers and Irish from our eUtopia?
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The sooner we (they?) start mass banning people, the better. Start with me!
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Winnow and Midnyte spearheading the village idiots release effort. Impressive.
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Xyun wrote:The sooner we (they?) start mass banning people, the better. Start with me!
No me first.
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noel wrote:Winnow and Midnyte spearheading the village idiots release effort. Impressive.
We've also got Xyun on board as well so we've got the entire ex-Middle Eastern contingent of VV on our side. We also have the full support of the thick skinned and the society for returning flames with flames instead of taking the approach that the whines of the few outweigh the ability to ignore or tolerate of the many.
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I'm for the unbanning too, but do you really think he'll come back?... it's been a while...
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Fash wrote:I'm for the unbanning too, but do you really think he'll come back?... it's been a while...
Well, it would be nice for the cliqué if that happened then.
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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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It's been nice the past few weeks. Threads actually kinda sorta stayed on topic. Where's Kyoukan been? I bet Sylvus banned her because she said bad things about the upgrade. I think we need a Un-ban Kyoukan thread!
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Aslanna wrote:It's been nice the past few weeks. Threads actually kinda sorta stayed on topic. Where's Kyoukan been? I bet Sylvus banned her because she said bad things about the upgrade. I think we need a Un-ban Kyoukan thread!

I haven't wanted to jinx it by posting about that...at least something really good came out of the upgrades!
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Just stealth unban him and see if he notices!
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How about we lock this thread so that the retards can (hopefully) let this dumbass topic die.
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BIG PICTURE!
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Lalanae wrote:BIG PICTURE!
It's only 444 x 366. Not that big!
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Aslanna wrote:
Lalanae wrote:BIG PICTURE!
Not that big!
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actually I was parodying Midnyte latest catchphrase, but oh well

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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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One of the exciting new features with the board is that you can set it so a particular poster has to have all of his messages approved before they are displayed on the board. I think it's about time that we test that out with Winnow, so that I don't have to see another thread shat upon with him crying about cart, or any more 3 year old bumps doing the same thing.

Give it a fucking rest already.
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masteen wrote:So when can we start cleansing the unbelievers and Irish from our eUtopia?
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It's not like it's a banned subject...or are we banning topics as well as people now?

Guess it's time to pull up my posts and point out my worthlessness on the board and then ban me. Funny how pulling up a post where Cart contributes to the board while getting reamed by the ops isn't met with glee.

Either the board is open to all topics or it's being cracked down on.

If mentioning Cart on this board is going to get me banned, I can live with that. I respect the ops and the board but am not going to change my ways to appease someone. A rare note or two outside of the "official" Cart thread isn't going to kill any kittens.

Is it ok to bring up the FoH vs CT debate or does that have a special thread as well?
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Winnow wrote:It's not like it's a banned subject...or are we banning topics as well as people now?

Guess it's time to pull up my posts and point out my worthlessness on the board and then ban me. Funny how pulling up a post where Cart contributes to the board while getting reamed by the ops isn't met with glee.

Either the board is open to all topics or it's being cracked down on.

If mentioning Cart on this board is going to get me banned, I can live with that. I respect the ops and the board but am not going to change my ways to appease someone. A rare note or two outside of the "official" Cart thread isn't going to kill any kittens.

Is it ok to bring up the FoH vs CT debate or does that have a special thread as well?
I'm trying to find out where Sylvus said anything about banning in that last post and I'm failing miserably. I never like to put words in others' mouths, but it's my impression that you're not under the threat of banning. People are just saying that continuously bringing up shit about Cartalas is fucking annoying.

He's not coming back - that much has been stated clearly. So why is it necessary to continuously dredge this up and mention how "wrong" the banning was? Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forget his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
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Drinsic Darkwood wrote:
Winnow wrote:It's not like it's a banned subject...or are we banning topics as well as people now?

Guess it's time to pull up my posts and point out my worthlessness on the board and then ban me. Funny how pulling up a post where Cart contributes to the board while getting reamed by the ops isn't met with glee.

Either the board is open to all topics or it's being cracked down on.

If mentioning Cart on this board is going to get me banned, I can live with that. I respect the ops and the board but am not going to change my ways to appease someone. A rare note or two outside of the "official" Cart thread isn't going to kill any kittens.

Is it ok to bring up the FoH vs CT debate or does that have a special thread as well?
I'm trying to find out where Sylvus said anything about banning in that last post and I'm failing miserably. I never like to put words in others' mouths, but it's my impression that you're not under the threat of banning. People are just saying that continuously bringing up shit about Cartalas is fucking annoying.

He's not coming back - that much has been stated clearly. So why is it necessary to continuously dredge this up and mention how "wrong" the banning was? Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forgot his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
I can't tell you how happy it makes me that someone irritated you, and hopefully many other people here. The point is, that just because the majority of the people here didn't like him, it doesn't matter - a LOT of people did not agree with the banning. What it boils down to is that it pisses me off that he got ran out by the fucking ass clowns of VV, because they were too thin skinned to deal with him, and too fucking dense to realize that getting pissed off was exactly the reaction he was aiming for, so they let him win.

I didn't agree with it, and either winnow doesn't either or he is just trolling. Either way, I won't shut up - I hope with every ounce of my energy that I piss at least one of you off every day - and if it's such an issue that this subject keeps being brought up, then ban two of the top contributors (in monetary form) to the forums you hold so fucking dear.

I wasn't going to post here anymore but I am sick of listening to people like you run their stupid fucking mouths. This however, will be the last time I post in this thread- because just like everything else I have said here, this will go in one ear, and out the other ear of Team VV Douchebag (tm).
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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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Hey guys you lost the poll let it go already losers
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Drinsic Darkwood wrote: Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forgot his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
"Those in charge" got us into the Iraq War. The majority of the people approved of George Bush for years. WTF does that have to do with anything? If someone in "charge" does something you disagree with, that's the end of it for you? There may be a lamer reason to stop voicing your opinion about something than "someone in charge" decided something but I'm still trying to think of it.

If it's irritating, this thread is easy to skip with very few posts outside of it popping up. The best thing the ops have done is not lock or retard the thread, causing another topic to pop up.

The thread I did bring up was an indirect find while I was using the forum search engine looking for something entirely different, not related to Cart. (I was looking for the post about how many kids you could kill before they took you down. Can anyone find that post? I couldn't come up with a key word that would find it. I thought for sure I used "whirlwind" or "tazmanian devil" in describing what my technique would be, but that didn't do the trick)
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He wasn't run off. He asked to be banned. Wish granted. Move the fuck on. Hehe!
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Stealing South Park (something cool) to further your forum fetish for Cartalas (something crap) is a bit lame.
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Sylvus wrote:One of the exciting new features with the board is that you can set it so a particular poster has to have all of his messages approved before they are displayed on the board. I think it's about time that we test that out with Winnow, so that I don't have to see another thread shat upon with him crying about cart, or any more 3 year old bumps doing the same thing.

Give it a fucking rest already.
Really? Is this what this board has come to? We are good friends Sylvus, but this saddens me. This is downright censorship. Take a good look at this post and tell me what legitimate justification you have for doing anything remotely close to this, other than "it's my board, i can do what i want". With Cart you can say he broke the ToS (even though his banning was still morally corrupt), but with this, well... it's obvious that you already jumped on the slippery slope. This is the exact reason why Cart never should have been banned in the first place. Are you going to start censoring what I say now? How bout the other 50 people that disagree with the banning?

I honestly don't give 2 shits about cart. What I do care about is the uncensored and unabashed nature of this board which is deteriorating rapidly, as is very evident by your post. I can tell you now that this topic is not going away for a very long time. The decision you have to make is which is worse, letting cart post or dealing with a handful of people crusading for cart, because as I said, this issue is not going away, not as long as I'm allowed to post here.
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Aslanna wrote:He wasn't run off. He asked to be banned. Wish granted. Move the fuck on. Hehe!

So did I. Why am i still here?
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Winnow wrote:
Drinsic Darkwood wrote: Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forgot his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
"Those in charge" got us into the Iraq War. The majority of the people approved of George Bush for years. WTF does that have to do with anything? If someone in "charge" does something you disagree with, that's the end of it for you? There may be a lamer reason to stop voicing your opinion about something than "someone in charge" decided something but I'm still trying to think of it.
That's a wonderful analogy, because this board is a democra- oh, wait, that's not a wonderful analogy.
Winnow wrote:If it's irritating, this thread is easy to skip with very few posts outside of it popping up. The best thing the ops have done is not lock or retard the thread, causing another topic to pop up.
Yes, I'm fully aware of my ability to ignore it, and typically I do. I'm posting because I'm curious as to why you feel the need to constantly reiterate your opinion on Cartalas' banning. He's not coming back, so that can't be it (see above). I'm genuinely curious if it's your intent to just annoy those who disagree. Obviously, that's Funkmasterr's, as he's stated it about as blatantly as possible. Maybe you're trying to sway the public opinion? I just highly doubt that works, considering his qualities (both his poor qualities and his abominably horrible qualities) have been extensively discussed in numerous threads, and I highly doubt he'll be bringing any new material to the table.
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Why do people post stupid shit like "This is my last post in this thread"? Just post the post and move the fuck on. Telling us it's your last post doesn't give it any more validity and makes you look like an even bigger attention whore.

Personally I'm glad it bothers people enough to have made it a 'cause'. I sure wish I had enough freetime for insignificant shit like that.
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Yeah, because its obvious that you don't have enough free time to throw around Cartalas-esque one liners. :roll:
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Nick wrote:Stealing South Park (something cool) to further your forum fetish for Cartalas (something crap) is a bit lame.

Eh? I edited a graphic I found on the net and made it transparent so I can put anything I want in it. Bitch!

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Cart himself is less the issue than the cause for general concern of poor decision in censoring a particular style of humor that more than a few found funny. He was a funny poster to some...that he wasn't funny to some shouldn't matter one bit. It's just plain fucked up that he was banned and it's purely playing favorites on a board that should be open to all unless they blatantly spam...and we know what that was like with Searyx. Cart wasn't Searyx or anywhere close to that.
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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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Where do you see one-liners? Unlike Cartalas I actually put some sort of thought into my posts1. Not to mention I can.. you know.. spell and stuff. Usually.

And it also seems you missed the point of my post. Throwing out a one-liner now and then isn't exactly an obsessive (and pointless) cause that the Cartalas un-banners seem to be on.


(1Obviously not every post. Since I know you'll go out and search them all for some retarded reason just to pwn me.)
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Re: Un-Ban Cartalas?

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Why all the hate on Cart?

Was he that bad really? :D
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Cart made me pull out early.

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Sylvus wrote:One of the exciting new features with the board is that you can set it so a particular poster has to have all of his messages approved before they are displayed on the board. I think it's about time that we test that out with Winnow, so that I don't have to see another thread shat upon with him crying about cart, or any more 3 year old bumps doing the same thing.

Give it a fucking rest already.
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Winnow wrote:It's not like it's a banned subject...or are we banning topics as well as people now?

Guess it's time to pull up my posts and point out my worthlessness on the board and then ban me. Funny how pulling up a post where Cart contributes to the board while getting reamed by the ops isn't met with glee.

Either the board is open to all topics or it's being cracked down on.

If mentioning Cart on this board is going to get me banned, I can live with that. I respect the ops and the board but am not going to change my ways to appease someone. A rare note or two outside of the "official" Cart thread isn't going to kill any kittens.

Is it ok to bring up the FoH vs CT debate or does that have a special thread as well?
Oh, don't flatter yourself. Like I've said before, no one is getting banned. Everyone can argue about all the slippery slopes that they want, the bottom line is that in 4 or 5 years of helping run this board, I've banned 1 person. He who was constantly complained about, and I let it slide for a number of years and even after a number of warnings. I more than likely would have let it slide again, but he challenged me, as he knew he was doing, so I called him on it. I've said it before, I'll take full responsibility for that one. Most people weren't complaining about him hurting anyone's feelings, they were complaining that they couldn't read a thread without him shitting it up with some barely legible non sequitur or ad hominem (read: trolling). I chose to do it and provided legitimate reasons for doing it, but it was all me. He obviously didn't give a fuck about posting here, about what you had to say, about having conversations with you, or anything like that. He knew what he was, and what his goal was here everyday, and he knew what would happen if he posted that pm and said "then ban me you fucking pussy". And he did it, and I did it, and we've heard nothing from him since. Is he crying to you via email or something about how he would love to come back? Or are you just being as fucking annoying as people have always said you were? I've always argued the other side of that one but I guess maybe I was wrong. You say your comments are rare, but take a quick search. You've brought him up or responded to messages about him approximately 50 times since he's been gone. What's the point? He wanted to go.

You can't read a post in CE without Midnyte shitting it up with his narrow mind, dim wit and ludicrously misplaced sense of superiority. And before he chimes in with some bullshit about me having a different opinion than him, I welcome an intelligent viewpoint that differs from my own. I would love to be able to have an actual argument in there, unfortunately those folk (read: differing opinions; a number of you are always a good read but I'm usually part of the choir) with any semblance of an IQ have been few and far between around here lately. At this point my dick would probably get hard (figuratively) if I saw kilmoll was logged in and posting a message. Between Sony, Apple and the Phoenix Suns/Arizona Cardinals/Diamondbacks/Sun Devils it was difficult to find a thread in Video Games, Computers/Tech or Sports that you hadn't shat up, and now with the cause célèbre that you've taken up, you've got fodder for all the rest of the forums. Congrats.

In summary, post whatever you want. I was just trying to point out that I'd always given you the benefit of the doubt and generally enjoyed your contributions here, and I had hoped that repeatedly pointing out you beating a dead horse would make you go "hey, sylvus is usually pretty reasonable, maybe I am being a twat!" I guess that's not the case though, you'd rather listen to cartalas call people fat or how their dads fucked them or something similarly hilarious, even though there's little chance of that ever happening again. Rest assured you'll not hear me complain about you pining over cart again now that I finally understand that you are, in fact, basically worthless.

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Drinsic Darkwood wrote: Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forgot his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
"Those in charge" got us into the Iraq War. The majority of the people approved of George Bush for years. WTF does that have to do with anything? If someone in "charge" does something you disagree with, that's the end of it for you? There may be a lamer reason to stop voicing your opinion about something than "someone in charge" decided something but I'm still trying to think of it.
That's a wonderful analogy, because this board is a democra- oh, wait, that's not a wonderful analogy.
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Drinsic Darkwood wrote:He's not coming back - that much has been stated clearly. So why is it necessary to continuously dredge this up and mention how "wrong" the banning was? Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forget his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
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Boogahz wrote:Do you forget what you type once you hit submit?
Drinsic Darkwood wrote:He's not coming back - that much has been stated clearly. So why is it necessary to continuously dredge this up and mention how "wrong" the banning was? Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forget his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
It would appear that he doesn't.

Thanks for contributing to this thread!

Edit: I also agree with everything Sylvus said. Anyone with any sack at all would take their proverbial balls and go home if they didn't like what was happening here so much. No drama, no whining, just stop posting here. Vote with your mindshare.
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noel wrote:
Boogahz wrote:Do you forget what you type once you hit submit?
Drinsic Darkwood wrote:He's not coming back - that much has been stated clearly. So why is it necessary to continuously dredge this up and mention how "wrong" the banning was? Those in charge say he's not coming back, and even if it somehow mattered or had any effect on the situation, the majority of our active posters/readers want him to stay gone. That said, what purpose does this have? Do you fear Cartalas will be forgotten? As much as I (and others I'm sure) would love to, it would be impossible for me to ever forget his brainless pigshit as long as I still read these forums. So is it to simply aggravate others? If so, mission accomplished, because it's awfully fucking irritating.
It would appear that he doesn't.

Thanks for contributing to this thread!

Edit: I also agree with everything Sylvus said. Anyone with any sack at all would take their proverbial balls and go home if they didn't like what was happening here so much. No drama, no whining, just stop posting here. Vote with your mindshare.
I could care less if he gets unbanned or not. I think I made that fairly clear when the thread "mattered." I ignored his posts before, and I found it funny that others felt the need to actually ask for him to be banned. I have had situations where I did message a mod, but that was only when a person went extremely overboard in a thread/forum. My request was to have it addressed or have the posts edited/removed.
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The edit wasn't for you and wasn't about you.

It was a general reply to what Sylvus wrote. I'm not going to repeat shit I said in this thread 6 pages ago, but I've asked for a lot of people to be banned on this forum. I've offered money, beer, hookers... whatever. To date it's NEVER happened.

I'd stopped reading most of the threads Cart posted in, so I was actually pretty surprised he was banned when it initially happened. That said I also did not care at all, and don't really see what all the crybaby antics are about.
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Boogahz wrote:Do you forget what you type once you hit submit?
Do you read what you quote before you submit? (Thanks, noel)
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Boogahz wrote:Do you forget what you type once you hit submit?
Do you read what you quote before you submit? (Thanks, noel)

yeah, you still don't seem to get it. I guess that you really should read the rest of the sentence and not stop where the bold print ends in noel's quote. Heck, I even made it a point to include that in bold in my own post! My point is that you basically used the same "democracy" argument that winnow used without going out on the US political angle, and then you came back with a "witty" one-liner about how it is not a democracy.
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