Heroes Season 1 Discussion *SPOILERS*

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » April 25, 2007, 11:12 am

I got owned by my DVR and it didn't get recorded, Winnow where can I find the episode! ><

miir · Post by **miir** » April 25, 2007, 11:15 am

Morgrym wrote:I find it odd that he managed to get a dead body into a cab and go across town with it. Of course if we sit back and pick apart the "reality" of the show, it will not be as entertaining.

He probably just stole the cab...
Nobody would suspect that an indian driving a cab had stolen it.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 25, 2007, 11:21 am

It was his fathers cab.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 25, 2007, 11:38 am

Psyloche wrote:I got owned by my DVR and it didn't get recorded, Winnow where can I find the episode! ><

alt.binaries.multimedia!

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » April 25, 2007, 12:19 pm

Psyloche wrote:I got owned by my DVR and it didn't get recorded, Winnow where can I find the episode! ><

http://www.nbc.com

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » April 25, 2007, 6:13 pm

It was his fathers cab.

Didn't his fathers cab have a giant hole torn out of it?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 25, 2007, 6:56 pm

Keverian FireCry wrote:
It was his fathers cab.
Didn't his fathers cab have a giant hole torn out of it?

It did in the graphic novel. I'll need to research this!

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » April 25, 2007, 7:04 pm

I thought Mohinder had his own cab.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 25, 2007, 7:34 pm

Keverian FireCry wrote:
It was his fathers cab.
Didn't his fathers cab have a giant hole torn out of it?

Hmm, perhaps. Either way, didn't he pick up the traditional mantle of an Indian immigrant and become a cabbie? I could have sworn he was driving a cab around in an episode.

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » April 25, 2007, 8:01 pm

Wiki

Mohinder travels to Brooklyn, where he rents his father's other apartment. Although it is in disarray, much of the material is still there and Mohinder begins to reorganize it. To makes ends meet during his lengthy stay, Mohinder takes a job as a taxi driver and picks up a passenger named Peter Petrelli, who asks him about "being special."

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 25, 2007, 8:11 pm

Zygar wrote:Wiki

Mohinder travels to Brooklyn, where he rents his father's other apartment. Although it is in disarray, much of the material is still there and Mohinder begins to reorganize it. To makes ends meet during his lengthy stay, Mohinder takes a job as a taxi driver and picks up a passenger named Peter Petrelli, who asks him about "being special."

We knew that! : ) but in the comic, Mohinder is offered a job after seeing his father's totaled taxi cab. From what I could tell, he used one of the company cabs and wouldn't have kept it.

Also, didn't Mohinder abandon his cab running away while Mr Bennett was in the back seat?

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » April 25, 2007, 10:02 pm

Yeah, he ran off. His character became less and less interesting after that one...

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » April 26, 2007, 4:04 pm

Clearly Mohinder's super-power is the ability to conjure taxi cabs at will.

miir · Post by **miir** » April 26, 2007, 5:24 pm

Keverian FireCry wrote:Clearly Mohinder's super-power is the ability to conjure taxi cabs at will.

Don't forget about his superhuman stupidity.

Kryshade · Post by **Kryshade** » May 1, 2007, 12:00 am

What an awesome episode... seriously, this show gets better and better!

I'm so ticked though, my DVR didn't record the preview for next week... can anyone give me a synopsis of what it is?

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » May 1, 2007, 12:05 am

Hiro and Ando are back, with Hiro his old jolly self "Don't worry New York, We're here to SAAAAAVVVVVVVEEEEEEE YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!" Introduction of a new hero, Molly(a young girl). She is "the only one with the power to stop Sylar" or something close to that.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 1, 2007, 12:15 am

That might have been the best episode of television I've ever seen.

When Peter and Sylar were about to confront each other in the hall, I felt strangely tingly.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 1, 2007, 1:46 am

Good episode.

A few things were annoying to me but nothing major. Except I was rather disappointed with how easy Peter, Ando and the future Hiro got in to rescue the other Hiro. I mean.. Did anyone even fire a shot? It was quite laughable but it didn't really lessen my opinion of the episode as a whole.

(I still haven't yet seen the whole point of the Niki/Jessica character other than to drag out the earlier episodes. She could have easily been not in the show and it wouldn't have changed anything. Obviously there are still 3 more episodes so that could change!)

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 1, 2007, 2:29 am

Yeah, great episode. I think the Peter/Sylar powers are a bit overexaggerated for the 'future'...but the show continues to be somewhat surprising, so who knows...

Are they really going with an entire new cast for the next season? I heard a rumor, but obviously did not do any research...

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » May 1, 2007, 4:23 am

Their powers seem be in-line with who/what they've been able to gain for a full five years. Heck, all Peter had to do was stand next to the people being incarcerated. Sylar only had the desire for one more power according to him....Claire's (that's not including what he absorbed between the end of previous episode and the current episode, including Nathan's). Next season will not feature all new characters. The writers have stated that some of the original cast will return as well as new ones added.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » May 1, 2007, 4:27 am

Great episode. I am enjoying Peter and Sylar more and more. I agree with Aslanna, the rescue scene could have been more dynamic. However, this show is the best major network TV series I've ever watched. The comic nerd within is satisfied thus far.

I'm still interested in exactly how Sylar gains his powers. I know he kills people, but does he "learn" from their brains? Eat them? Implant pieces of them into himself? What?

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » May 1, 2007, 6:10 am

Well he can figure out how they work just by looking at them, remember he did that with the watches (his inital story, if a watch was broken he could look at it and see what was wrong). The question is how does he change his own brain to match them.

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » May 1, 2007, 8:23 am

Is the girl in the previews the same girl they were trying to rescue in the beginning of the series? When Parkman first found he had powers and she was under the stairs?

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 1, 2007, 8:37 am

Yes it is! Interesting.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » May 1, 2007, 11:57 am

I loved how far they were able to take it with no reprecussions attached to it. Great episode.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » May 1, 2007, 12:43 pm

That episode was fan-freaking-tastic. The comic geek in me is laughing with glee.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 1, 2007, 12:48 pm

Confused as to why Sylar is the big focus when Peter is the one who actually caused the explosion... Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Speaking of the explosion.. I'm guessing he was able to reconstruct himself from that. Which they sorta hinted at happening last week. Ok fine. Then what was the deal with the huge scar on his face? If he has powers of regeneration what's up with a scar? Makes no sense!

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 1, 2007, 12:53 pm

People think Sylar blows up New York because thats what Hiro said. Hiro thinks this because the President told him thats what happened. I'm thinking that killing Sylar will do absolutely nothing in stopping the explosion.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » May 1, 2007, 1:15 pm

Nathan put the blame on Sylar post-explosion to protect Peter from the media.

Then Sylar killed/replaced Nathan in the months/years after that I'm guessing (Possibly taking over before the presidential campaign).

As for the scar I have no idea.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 1, 2007, 1:31 pm

Aslanna wrote:Confused as to why Sylar is the big focus when Peter is the one who actually caused the explosion... Guess we'll find out soon enough.

Speaking of the explosion.. I'm guessing he was able to reconstruct himself from that. Which they sorta hinted at happening last week. Ok fine. Then what was the deal with the huge scar on his face? If he has powers of regeneration what's up with a scar? Makes no sense!

Dude, this is a comic book show! You need to give them a little more license to just make things happen. I'm guessing the scar was there just to provide a visual cue that it's not the same Peter we know. Similar to the comics when someone grows a goatee or something.

He was responsible for the death of Micah and DL, and wasn't on board with helping Hiro and Hiro and Ando until late in that episode. Before that he was Bizarro Peter. Kind of like how Hiro with the soul patch wasn't happy-go-lucky Hiro.

Swoned · Post by **Swoned** » May 1, 2007, 4:21 pm

I think I'm more excited about watching the season finale of heroes than I am of 24. Peter's scar was pretty messed up - I guess his regeneration ability wasn't working too well that day.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » May 1, 2007, 4:32 pm

I thought of two things with regards to the scar.

He either left it there intentionally to serve as a reminder of what he did. (i'm sticking with this one)

Or he was literally in pieces after the explosion. As in, there are a couple of bone chunks that didn't get gathered up for the regeneration.

This last episode was fucking awesome.

Aslanna, as to the fight scene with the guards, I also noticed there was zero blood. Considering it's network tv, I think they were trying to avoid a big violence censorship smackdown. Besides, sometimes you don't need to see the fight, just the aftermath...that can be a more powerful image.

Homercles · Post by **Homercles** » May 1, 2007, 5:29 pm

The scar might also be a result of Peter only being able to use one ability at a time. Or perhaps he was in captivity for a time and the Haitian had a damper on his abilities and the cut naturally healed into that scar.

There are possible explanations that allow for a scar to form on a healer.

Who knows. This show is filled with possibilities. Let your imagination run free.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » May 1, 2007, 7:52 pm

You know what my biggest peave about the show last night was?

Peter was way too Neo-ish for my taste. It's like he was channeling Keanu Reaves.

Other than that it was an absolutly fantastic episode.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 2, 2007, 12:07 am

He certainly was channelling Neo quite a bit, especially upon second viewing. However, I enjoyed the episode even more the second time around. Great stuff!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 2, 2007, 4:10 am

Morgrym wrote:Is the girl in the previews the same girl they were trying to rescue in the beginning of the series? When Parkman first found he had powers and she was under the stairs?

Nice catch! I haven't seen the previews for next week (DVR cut them off)

Seeing the heroes in a darker light made for some great TV this episode.

"I scare me"

The only hero I know for sure that makes it to next season is Hiro. I read that somewhere. There may be others but Hiro is the only confirmed one I know of so far.

It was nice to see Peter using his powers and not being so emo this episode. Nathan flies really fast. Obviously Sylar killed the illusion girl and Jessica's husband.

Withefel · Post by **Withefel** » May 2, 2007, 4:45 am

Graet episode, hands down. Whats the latest word on the new season after this? I havent heard a single thing other than what was mentioned just a few posts up.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » May 2, 2007, 10:31 am

in regards to the Scar...Is it possible that he doesn't have the power? The future Hiro was excited when he found out that they saved the cheerleader. What if in their timeline Peter didn't meet with Claire or Claire was never in the position to be attacked by Sylar. Peter could have gotten the power later on though but the scar already was there so couldn't be repaired. dunno just tossing out ideas.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » May 2, 2007, 11:14 am

Winnow wrote:
Morgrym wrote:Is the girl in the previews the same girl they were trying to rescue in the beginning of the series? When Parkman first found he had powers and she was under the stairs?
Nice catch! I haven't seen the previews for next week (DVR cut them off)

Seeing the heroes in a darker light made for some great TV this episode.

"I scare me"

The only hero I know for sure that makes it to next season is Hiro. I read that somewhere. There may be others but Hiro is the only confirmed one I know of so far.

It was nice to see Peter using his powers and not being so emo this episode. Nathan flies really fast. Obviously Sylar killed the illusion girl and Jessica's husband.

That wasn't Nathan flying winnow

Add Nathan and Sprague (bomb man) to the list that future Sylar killed, as his powers demonstrated.

Bubba Grizz wrote:in regards to the Scar...Is it possible that he doesn't have the power? The future Hiro was excited when he found out that they saved the cheerleader. What if in their timeline Peter didn't meet with Claire or Claire was never in the position to be attacked by Sylar. Peter could have gotten the power later on though but the scar already was there so couldn't be repaired. dunno just tossing out ideas.

Claire disappeared after the homecoming/house blowing up incident. Remember the incident with the Haitian and Mr. Bennett, and Nathan and mother Petrelli hiding her? Noone outside of that little handful knows Claire is still alive. Those things are still currently correct because Hiro hasn't gone back to change them (again).
We've also seen no evidence of being able to jump from one timeline to another, only back and forth on the current one (even though that timeline can be altered). So the only thing that has changed in the future so far is that Sylar didn't get Claire's power at Homecoming (but got it much later).

miir · Post by **miir** » May 2, 2007, 12:28 pm

Sylar would have the powers of every 'mutant' they rounded up and 'locked up' in the name of 'homeland security'.... basically limitless.

With Peter also having those powers, their showdown at the conclusion of the episode would have most certainly resulted in the 'end of the world'.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » May 2, 2007, 12:41 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:in regards to the Scar...Is it possible that he doesn't have the power? The future Hiro was excited when he found out that they saved the cheerleader. What if in their timeline Peter didn't meet with Claire or Claire was never in the position to be attacked by Sylar. Peter could have gotten the power later on though but the scar already was there so couldn't be repaired. dunno just tossing out ideas.

Since Peter was the one blowing up, he DO have Claires power, or he wouldnt have been there

Post by **Sylvus** » May 2, 2007, 12:59 pm

Does he need Claire's power though? Every time we've seen Sprague blow shit up, he hasn't needed to regen.

I'm leaning toward "save the cheerleader" meaning "don't let sylar have regen so that Hiro can kill him with a sword" or somesuch.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 2, 2007, 1:25 pm

Something just doesn't feel right. If Hiro stabbed Sylar and he regened, but Claire was alive and well (future Hiro didn't know), how did Sylar regen? Is there another "heroe" out there with similar powers?

Sylar also saw the future and he saw he was alive and well (the painting of Nathan in the White House). Is it possible the future cannot be changed?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 2, 2007, 1:34 pm

Hiro hasn't stabbed him yet, thats the thing. I think the idea is that now he knows that he should do that and now that he is back in the past - he can do it when the time comes.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 2, 2007, 1:36 pm

In that timeline, Claire is alive and Hiro did stab Sylar only to see him regen. He even said it.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 2, 2007, 1:47 pm

If I'm not mistaken, in the timeline that we saw on Monday night, 5 years into the future, Naive Hiro had not stabbed Sylar like Jaded Hiro had hoped he would. Remember Jaded Hiro showing him the comic book that showed Naive Hiro stabbing him. That's what Jaded Hiro was telling Naive Hiro he had to go back and do.

In the original timeline (that we haven't seen), Jaded Hiro stabbed Sylar before the bomb went off, but he regenerated and the bomb still went off. Even though it was actually Peter, Jaded Hiro doesn't know that. So in his timeline, he pieced it together that if they saved the Cheerleader they could save the world, so he went back and told Naive Hiro that very message. In Jaded Hiro's mind, Sylar not being able to regenerate would make it so that stabbing him would kill him and prevent the bomb. Naive Hiro showed up in Jaded Hiro's timeline after he had saved the cheerleader, but before he had stabbed Sylar.

So in the splinter timeline that Jaded Hiro has influenced and now inhabits (and was shown on Monday night) the Cheerleader has been saved and Sylar can't regen, but the bomb still went off and Sylar is still alive.

Does that make any sense? Somehow it does to me.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 2, 2007, 1:51 pm

Lynks wrote:Sylar also saw the future and he saw he was alive and well (the painting of Nathan in the White House). Is it possible the future cannot be changed?

Sylar saw "Nathan" in the White House. In Monday's "alternate" future, we still don't even know for certain if Nathan got himself elected before or after Sylar assumed his identity. Either way, that could be the real Nathan in the White House that he saw in the main series timeline painting.

Perhaps the heroes save NYC and everyone embraces heroes. Nathan is a senator with powers and fast-tracks it to the White House. Who knows?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 2, 2007, 1:52 pm

miir wrote:Sylar would have the powers of every 'mutant' they rounded up and 'locked up' in the name of 'homeland security'.... basically limitless.

Not unless he killed them and "ate" their brains or whatever he does to acquire their powers. That's why I was wondering why Sylar (as the president) would want to kill the heroes with a drug instead of killing them all himself to take their powers. Of course, that would be hard to do while being in the spotlight as the president but I'm sure he could work something out.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 2, 2007, 1:55 pm

Winnow wrote:
miir wrote:Sylar would have the powers of every 'mutant' they rounded up and 'locked up' in the name of 'homeland security'.... basically limitless.
Not unless he killed them and "ate" their brains or whatever he does to acquire their powers. That's why I was wondering why Sylar (as the president) would want to kill the heroes with a drug instead of killing them all himself to take their powers. Of course, that would be hard to do while being in the spotlight as the president but I'm sure he could work something out.

Remember that he told Claire that after her, he had enough power. That's probably why he was cool with killing all the other heroes after that.

I think there are fewer plot holes than people (Aslanna!) say there are. The writers just have the advantage of looking at the big picture, knowing about everyone's powers and where this is going and the multiple timelines and whatnot. There's a lot going on that leads to confusion on our part.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 2, 2007, 2:29 pm

Sylvus wrote:So in the splinter timeline that Jaded Hiro has influenced and now inhabits (and was shown on Monday night) the Cheerleader has been saved and Sylar can't regen, but the bomb still went off and Sylar is still alive.

Does that make any sense? Somehow it does to me.

Ya, it makes sense. I also remember when Hiro tried to save the waitress, he told Ando that it is impossible to change things. Its quite possible that Sylar will live, NY will blow up and Claire will die to Sylar's hands.

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