Heroes Season 1 Discussion *SPOILERS*

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » March 5, 2007, 8:24 pm

It's true! You can find it in a.b.multimedia if you can't wait until tonight. A lot less commercials that way too.

It wasn't a bad episode. I think the previous week was better but I don't really have any complaints about this one..

And we finally meet Linderman.

Post by **Sylvus** » March 6, 2007, 12:57 am

Wow, that was great. I'm kind of disappointed that the previews for next week kind of ruined the cliffhanger. And I'm very disappointed that it's on break until the end of April.

But it's all coming together!

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » March 6, 2007, 1:21 am

I'm somewhat annoyed that the next new ep will only be on April 23rd.

What next? 3 more episodes then it's off till the end of sept?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » March 6, 2007, 1:23 am

Yeah I liked the episode tonight quite a bit, I am glad the pace is staying a bit faster now. I am also extremely upset that it is on hold until April 23rd, at least I have the black donnely's until then.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 6, 2007, 3:00 am

Woo! Simone's still dead.

Having a shape shifter in the show is as bad as Elf Girl's power of suggestion...too powerful! I hope they don't abuse the convenience of impersonating another person too often. Glad someone is wearing a short skirt in the show now.

There's a lot of twists and turns going on for sure.

The only hokey part was Hiro's friend showing up in a security uniform.

Intense stuff going on between Peter, Silar and Suresh!

BTW, the 7 minute HD preview on NBC's website for the next 24 hours of Spiderman 3 is worth seeing. Much better than the Heroes Commercial! (a couple slow minutes in the beginning and then some serious action)

Post by **Sylvus** » March 6, 2007, 10:04 am

Winnow wrote:Having a shape shifter in the show is as bad as Elf Girl's power of suggestion...too powerful! I hope they don't abuse the convenience of impersonating another person too often. Glad someone is wearing a short skirt in the show now.

I thought she was more an illusionist? Cause she made the whole room that Simone's body was in change to not show her in there.

She is pretty hot though.

And did we learn the Haitian's name? I thought I heard someone call him "Sprague".

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » March 6, 2007, 11:27 am

Sylvus wrote:
Winnow wrote:Having a shape shifter in the show is as bad as Elf Girl's power of suggestion...too powerful! I hope they don't abuse the convenience of impersonating another person too often. Glad someone is wearing a short skirt in the show now.
I thought she was more an illusionist? Cause she made the whole room that Simone's body was in change to not show her in there.

She is pretty hot though.

And did we learn the Haitian's name? I thought I heard someone call him "Sprague".

Ted Sprague is nuclear boy.

Post by **Sylvus** » March 6, 2007, 11:47 am

Ahh, I was confused then. Someone mentioned something about Sprague and from the context I thought they meant the Haitian.

Xyphir · Post by **Xyphir** » March 6, 2007, 1:27 pm

Winnow wrote:The only hokey part was Hiro's friend showing up in a security uniform.

I was upset to the point of talking to the TV. So Hiro can walk up to the computer in the art vault, type in sword and get it like he's taking out cash at an ATM? And Ando was able to get a job as a security officer without getting a Visa, or taking a class to carry a handgun? That was just plain stupid and completely unbelievable. I felt cheated by how he got the sword and was able to teleport Ando to the future NYC, even though he had never done it before.

I was glad that Suresh was made to seem somewhat more intelligent, but the whole IV thing made him stupid again.

I still love the show, but sometimes they do shit (especially with Hiro and Ando) that boggles my mind. I'm really looking forward to the face-off between Sylar and Peter. Laser beam battle? pewpewpew?

Post by **Sylvus** » March 6, 2007, 1:35 pm

Xyphir wrote:I was upset to the point of talking to the TV. So Hiro can walk up to the computer in the art vault, type in sword and get it like he's taking out cash at an ATM? And Ando was able to get a job as a security officer without getting a Visa, or taking a class to carry a handgun? That was just plain stupid and completely unbelievable. I felt cheated by how he got the sword and was able to teleport Ando to the future NYC, even though he had never done it before.

Was Ando actually employed there do we know? I was thinking he could have just been in disguise. Hard to say which is more plausible though. Probably him getting a job with no visa; they'd notice him otherwise.

As far as teleporting Ando to the future, which part do you feel cheated by? That he took someone with him? It's already been established that his timing is usually off and that he can travel to future NYC.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » March 6, 2007, 2:08 pm

Sylvus wrote:As far as teleporting Ando to the future, which part do you feel cheated by? That he took someone with him? It's already been established that his timing is usually off and that he can travel to future NYC.

He was also there in Peter's visions of when he went supernova.

Xyphir · Post by **Xyphir** » March 6, 2007, 2:10 pm

Foreign nationals who come to the US cannot be employed on a visitation visa. They need to apply for a work visa, which takes time. We had someone from Malaysia at my last company, and it's a pain in the ass to apply for that. The patriot act made getting a work visa that much harder. They're taking our jobs!

As far as teleporting Ando, I was annoyed that something Hiro had expressed confidence he could do something he had never done before. Maybe it was because he finally got the sword and could concentrate, or maybe Ando is like Peter, but that's a serious reach.

It was interesting to see how they tied Peter and Nathan's mom into this. Is she Bennet's superior? And how is she related to Linderman? She said she was protecting Claire, but I wonder what exactly that means. Is she tied to Hiro's father too? I was watching the opening credits, hoping to see George Takai. Oh well...

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » March 6, 2007, 2:26 pm

Xyphir wrote:Foreign nationals who come to the US cannot be employed on a visitation visa. They need to apply for a work visa, which takes time. We had someone from Malaysia at my last company, and it's a pain in the ass to apply for that. The patriot act made getting a work visa that much harder. They're taking our jobs!

As far as teleporting Ando, I was annoyed that something Hiro had expressed confidence he could do something he had never done before. Maybe it was because he finally got the sword and could concentrate, or maybe Ando is like Peter, but that's a serious reach.

Suspension of Disbelief. There are also no mountains in, or around, Odessa Texas, but they keep showing them. If it upsets you so much that you talk to the TV, you might want to watch something else

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » March 6, 2007, 2:41 pm

Also, Ando used to work with Hiro at his father's company. Hiro's father as we know is high up in the company that Mr. Bennett works for.

It could be completely possible that Ando is a Company plant to monitor Hiro for his father and some strings were pulled to get him a job at the Linderman group.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » March 6, 2007, 5:15 pm

The one thing that annoyed me was the lack of Sylar having any trouble with the tea pot whistling loudly.. but a tuning fork drives him bonkers. Her ability was nifty and all, but it's one that causes too many inconsistencies.

And really.. the whole Sylar thing is getting old.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » March 6, 2007, 5:34 pm

Thats because Suresh drugged him. I'm pretty sure he even said he would have trouble concentrating on his powers.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » March 6, 2007, 6:16 pm

Mohinder's IV prevented Sylar from properly controlling his power. Apaprently it just wasn't strong enough and Sylar was able to stop the IV anyways.

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » March 8, 2007, 10:52 pm

Wish I had enough money to pick one of these up

Original 'Heroes' Artwork To Be Auctioned for Charity
NBC's hit-drama Heroes is living up to its name by auctioning artwork by renowned graphic illustrator Tim Sale exclusively on NBC.com with two separate auctions to begin on March 26 and April 2. All proceeds will benefit the Epilepsy Foundation.

Each week's auctions will feature two full-size autographed limited edition prints and drawings of artwork used in the show. The list of artwork includes "Exploding Man," "Eclipse," "Claire on the Stairs" and "Hiro and T-Rex." Bidding will go live on March 26 at 6 p.m. (PT) and will close at 12 a.m. (PT) on March 28. The second auction will go live at 6 p.m. (PT) on April 2 and close at 12 a.m. (PT) on April 4.

"We are thankful that Greg Grunberg, inspired by his own real-life hero, his son Jake, who has epilepsy, has joined with us to increase awareness of epilepsy," said Eric R. Hargis, President and CEO of the Epilepsy Foundation. "With the help of Greg, those like him, and partners like NBC, we can end the stigma associated with epilepsy in this generation."

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 12, 2007, 8:34 pm

This is for Xyun who was asking about previous episodes:

http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_ep ... s_01.shtml

If you missed out on the start of "Heroes" when it premiered in the fall, you don't have to wait for the DVDs. NBC has put all 18 episodes of the show online for a limited time. Granted, that's a lot of catching up to do if you're starting from scratch, but the show is off the air until April 23, so at least there's time.

The site doesn't say how long the episodes will be available, but when NBC did something similar in December and January, the videos stayed online until new episodes began to air. So, make like time-traveling hero Hiro and jet back to September!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 12, 2007, 6:32 pm

Kinda slow for HEROES news. 11 more days 'til the next episode!

*Sort of NWS is you can't tell from the link title*

http://www.celebrityhack.com/hayden-pan ... ks-a-boob/

Here's her MySpace page (mentioned in above link) for those of you My Spacers:

http://myspace.com/haydenpanettiere

Get her to add you! hehe

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » April 23, 2007, 11:41 am

Your Friendly Neighborhood Show, Heroes, finally returns tonight!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » April 23, 2007, 12:09 pm

I'm so excited! I hope they get the first season out on dvd quick!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 23, 2007, 5:54 pm

There's a 2 minute preview of tonight's episode out but I'm not going to watch it now that we're so close. They usually give too much away in those!

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » April 23, 2007, 6:48 pm

Just watched the previews on Yahoo

/drool

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » April 24, 2007, 9:46 am

Ahhhh... it's good to have Heroes back.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » April 24, 2007, 11:52 am

Damn, that was good.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 24, 2007, 12:30 pm

Clair didn't save Peter's life. The coroner would have eventually pulled out that glass shard!

The painter guy letting Sylar kill him is interesting. I haven't figured that one out yet. I'm sure it has something to do with what's in the sketchbook he gave the courier.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » April 24, 2007, 1:28 pm

Or his final comic since he knows Hiro reads it.

I wonder what Peter and Nathan's mom's power is. That makes Claire a third generation heroe!

Post by **Sylvus** » April 24, 2007, 1:33 pm

I think it's kind of interesting what they're doing next week. 5 years in the future, see what could happen if they don't save the world. Then I'm sure following that they'll go back and try to actually save the world.

It makes it feel more like a comic book.

That illusion chick is pretty hot, too bad she works for Julia Roberts' brother.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 24, 2007, 1:42 pm

My guess about the painter is that he drew something that shows the prophecy painter dying at some point in the future so he sacrificed his life/gave up his powers to Sylar so he would be the one who dies.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » April 24, 2007, 1:46 pm

Good theory

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » April 24, 2007, 2:07 pm

Check out the Novel. It ties together Future-Hiro's original visit to the past, why he went there and leads up to his encounter with Dorky-Hiro in the future.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/

rhyae · Post by **rhyae** » April 24, 2007, 4:56 pm

Winnow wrote:Clair didn't save Peter's life. The coroner would have eventually pulled out that glass shard!
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Maybe the time delay makes a difference, because they were going to hide the body until after the election. Maybe by then he wouldn't have been able to heal himself. He'd be decaying?
I dunno!

miir · Post by **miir** » April 24, 2007, 5:37 pm

Winnow wrote:Clair didn't save Peter's life.

It's Claire... with an E

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 24, 2007, 6:02 pm

rhyae wrote:
Winnow wrote:Clair didn't save Peter's life. The coroner would have eventually pulled out that glass shard!
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Maybe the time delay makes a difference, because they were going to hide the body until after the election. Maybe by then he wouldn't have been able to heal himself. He'd be decaying?
I dunno!

But did Peter know they were going to stash his body before he told Claire that she saved his life?

Peter also probably didn't know that he could survive brain damage as he hadn't seen Claire survive the stick in the brain.

I suppose the line is ok as we can't assume that anyone would ever pull out that shard if his family buried him in cement to avoid a scandal!

Anyone catch Peter's brother saying "you weren't supposed to die this way", like he was pissed that Peter didn't stick around to blow up? He's evil!

Kryshade · Post by **Kryshade** » April 24, 2007, 6:59 pm

I dunno, I don't think Peter would have woken up if claire hadn't been right next to him. He has the ability to recall his powers, but if he's dead, I don't think it would have been a natural thing for him to regenerate. It was claire sitting by his side in close proximity that caused her power to bleed over and revive Peter. Would never have happened naturally or if someone else had pulled out the glass.

Now on the flip side, I'm disappointed in Peter. What kind of guy turns invisible and then just stands there with his back turned to a guy that has a bunch of glass floating around him that he's obviously gonna fling out! I mean what a puss!!! He should have at least tried to sneak around Sylar or laid on the floor until after the glass was flung out or something!! Someone needs to teach that boy how to fight!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 24, 2007, 7:29 pm

Kryshade wrote:I dunno, I don't think Peter would have woken up if claire hadn't been right next to him. He has the ability to recall his powers, but if he's dead, I don't think it would have been a natural thing for him to regenerate. It was claire sitting by his side in close proximity that caused her power to bleed over and revive Peter. Would never have happened naturally or if someone else had pulled out the glass.

I've seen no evidence of Claire being able to heal someone other than herself (so far) and Peter was dead so his body/mind wasn't absorbing powers...if he can absorb powers while dead, we may see a super zombie Peter in a future episode.

Now on the flip side, I'm disappointed in Peter. What kind of guy turns invisible and then just stands there with his back turned to a guy that has a bunch of glass floating around him that he's obviously gonna fling out! I mean what a puss!!! He should have at least tried to sneak around Sylar or laid on the floor until after the glass was flung out or something!! Someone needs to teach that boy how to fight!

He's a male nurse, not Bruce Lee!

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » April 24, 2007, 7:38 pm

We already saw Peter absorb powers when he was dead. After he jumped off the roof with Sylar, he cracked his head open. When Claire came next to him, he got better.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 24, 2007, 7:43 pm

Lynks wrote:We already saw Peter absorb powers when he was dead. After he jumped off the roof with Sylar, he cracked his head open. When Claire came next to him, he got better.

He had already been close to Claire prior to that by the awards case in the hallway.

He picked up the Cop's powers the same way.

Post by **pyrella** » April 24, 2007, 8:13 pm

What about when the invisible man threw him off the roof? Or did he not completely die there before coming back?

Zygar · Post by **Zygar** » April 24, 2007, 8:26 pm

He said he had to remember what it was like being with that person and how it made him feel to use their power instead of forgetting them like Mr. Invisible told him to do, so I think he never died when he hit the car. Kinda hard to think about someone when you've got a big glass shard in the noggin (or they could be getting away from the feelings thing and he could have healed himself involuntarily when it was removed)

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » April 24, 2007, 8:32 pm

I think Peter is able to focus the powers better now so that even if he isn't around the original person he still had the ability. Obviously he turned invisible just before getting smacked in the head with glass (which I too thought was lame that he was just standing there in front of Sylar) yet the guy who had that power was nowhere around. Healing ability would be no different. As soon as he 'died' I knew he wasn't dead and all someone had to do was pull out the glass to 'revive' him.

The major complaint I have about this episode is why did Mohinder let Sylar live? In the previous episode he was ready to kill him. Yet when he had the chance after knocking him out all he did was carry Peter off. Why not whack Sylar and be done with it?

Those two complaints aside I thought it was a pretty good episode.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 24, 2007, 8:47 pm

Aslanna wrote: The major complaint I have about this episode is why did Mohinder let Sylar live? In the previous episode he was ready to kill him. Yet when he had the chance after knocking him out all he did was carry Peter off. Why not whack Sylar and be done with it?

I wondered that as well.

As for the glass. Why didn't Peter use his telekinesis powers to shoot the glass at Sylar. He used the powers to throw Sylar across the room earlier in the scene. Perhaps he can only use one power at a time and he'd become visible before he could...although it's not like invisibility helped him much when he just stood there with his back turned. I'll have to see if he uses another power while flying or something.

Peter also could have been dazed from getting half his skull cut. He can reheal but I'm sure the pain might impact his ability to concentrate.

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rhyae · Post by **rhyae** » April 24, 2007, 11:53 pm

They also alluded to the fact that Peter might survive blowing up part of New York.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » April 25, 2007, 12:12 am

Aslanna wrote:The major complaint I have about this episode is why did Mohinder let Sylar live? In the previous episode he was ready to kill him. Yet when he had the chance after knocking him out all he did was carry Peter off. Why not whack Sylar and be done with it?

I'm also curious about this. Maybe they'll explain it in further detail, but I doubt it. Plot holes / poor writing really do bug the shit out of me.

Post by **Sylvus** » April 25, 2007, 12:18 am

Shrug, I just chalked it up to Mohinder having no idea how long Sylar would be out nor the sum total of all his powers, and knowing that the second Sylar wakes up he can kill him with his mind. Mohinder already thought he had the upper hand on Sylar, and Sylar nearly killed him.

He probably just grabbed Peter and gtfo.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » April 25, 2007, 12:21 am

Well, to me it's like this. Which of the following takes less time to perform and has the smallest chance of bringing Sylar back to consciousness - carrying an allegedly dead body out of an apartment or picking up a gun and shooting it? My money's on the latter.

Of course, I will admit I forget what happened to the gun Mohinder had. Did he just drop it on the ground or did Sylar destroy it / get rid of it in some manner?

redeemed · Post by **redeemed** » April 25, 2007, 5:47 am

I liked the "floating shards" thing that sylar did.. but then thought it was really lame that peter was facing AWAY from him so that when they flew out he caught one in the back of the head.. come on..
and even worse was the fact that sylar got knocked out by a MAP.. we just laughed at that point..

so yep, I'm the negative nancy

still diggin the show anyway ;p

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » April 25, 2007, 8:29 am

I find it odd that he managed to get a dead body into a cab and go across town with it. Of course if we sit back and pick apart the "reality" of the show, it will not be as entertaining.

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